“We Are Not Deep Enough”
November 20th, 2015
Receivers are hanging Jameis out to dry.
No, America’s Quarterback, Bucs signal-caller Jameis Winston, didn’t have a great game Sunday, ending his streak of pick-less outings with a pair of interceptions.
One of those interceptions should have been caught, the ball that bounced off both hands of Brandon Myers. The second pick, well, that was behind Adam Humphries.
Whether Humphries was running the right route, well, no one but the Bucs know for sure.
But former Bucs quarterback Shaun King, one of three Bucs quarterbacks to lead the team to an NFC Championship game, thinks what Joe has been writing about all year: With all the injuries, Jameis is throwing to subpar talent and the receivers are not helping.
That’s what King explained in his chat with Ron Diaz and Ian Beckles on WDAE-AM 620 yesterday.
“We are not deep enough not to have Vincent Jackson, Louis Murphy and Austin Seferian-Jenkins not playing,” King said when asked about Jameis’ recent struggles. ‘”So we’ve got a lot of guys playing that wouldn’t play for most teams in the NFL. And because of that, no one is making tough catches for Jameis. I mean, no one on the team is making catches that are not thrown directly to them, and they are dropping some of those. So now I think you are starting to see Jameis press just a little bit.
“It was a 6-3 game for most of the game and that can be frustrating. Guys dropping balls. Every ball wasn’t perfect, but again, those guys catching the balls are getting a paycheck every week. So it is their job to make some of those catches. You know, make the high catch. Make the catch behind you. Everything is not going to be perfect. Be an NFL pass-catcher and help your quarterback out.”
In the long run, King added, Jameis will be just fine. King said that Jameis is doing some things — such as tolerating rotten wide receivers and drops — with a mental toughness rarely seen in a rookie quarterback.
To hear more from King, click the arrow below. Audio courtesy of Joe’s friends at WDAE-AM 620.
November 20th, 2015 at 7:45 am
I would not be surprised if the Bucs do not draft a Wr very high this year’s draft (first round)!!! VJ is no spring chicken ( he will be 34 by the end of next year) and missing time should be expected at this point in his career. Asj/Stocker TE needs to have an eventual solid answer by next year. The Bucs need to be good at something and this points to the offense. We have seen improvement on this side and might as well try to make a good group turn into a great group!!!!
November 20th, 2015 at 7:47 am
There’s no doubt we need another top WR…..maybe Bell will become that….or we can draft or go to FA.
Yes, every pass should be caught….every tackle made, every FG made, every throw on target, every pass defended, every interception caught and every punt downed inside the 20. Thanks for the lesson Shaun.
I think Humphries made a very nice catch in that game.
As for the Myers…..sure, it hit both hands and maybe he or someone else catches it 1-3 times…..but that pass was off-target….and there isn’t anyone…not even ODB who could have caught the pass behind Humphries.
“Shaun King, one of two Buc Quarterbacks that lost a NFC Championship Game when his defense gave up 9 points.”
November 20th, 2015 at 7:53 am
So um what team wouldn’t feel the impact of losing 2 of top 3 receivers ave#1 receiving TE??
November 20th, 2015 at 7:59 am
@jvato24
The point is that Louis Murphy has only played 16 games twice out of 7 years, VJ is career has been durable but he will be 33/34 next year, and ASJ is ASJ!!! To count on these guys is a stretch for next year!!!!
November 20th, 2015 at 8:14 am
What about the receiver that the Seahawks just cut?
November 20th, 2015 at 8:17 am
@ Realist
I’m impressed….actually some positive input…..
I would add that FA is a good place to find #2,3 WRs…..better so, I think than the defensive side (at least for us…..we have plenty of cap space
I think our draft strategy may depend on who is available when we pick….
We need DE, CB, S also….
November 20th, 2015 at 8:20 am
Yea I actually think I’m wit Realist!!! on this one.
November 20th, 2015 at 8:40 am
Did someone steal Realist’s name and post on here????
November 20th, 2015 at 9:29 am
Free Agency comes before The Draft
it’s silly to get caught up right now on “we need position X,Y, Z” in the draft because Licht may get a chance to address a position or two in free agency
I still think we can upgrade this OL — look at the way Luck has performed behind the sub par group playing in front of him. If we’re in position to grab a stud LT in the draft, I say jump on it. Coaches and GM’s may get the good fortune of having a franchise QB once in their careers. Job one is to protect him, job two is to give him weapons.
The D definitely needs to be addressed, but I just don’t want to fall into the trap of “we need to go all D on all 4 days of the draft” right now.
November 20th, 2015 at 9:37 am
Wish Humphries was targeted more…
November 20th, 2015 at 9:53 am
@CreamsicleBananaHammock
I agree…no trap……but we haven’t done too well in FA…..maybe good for depth but our stars will likely be draftees.
For all we know, we’ll be looking for a RB…If a deal with Martin isn’t done.
We have many positions of need…..except QB & perhaps LB, K
November 20th, 2015 at 9:57 am
Right on TBBF
Don’t forget that Sterling Moore only signed a one year deal. The guy has made himself a TON of money the last two weeks. If his play continues, I think priority number one on the defensive side is to get him resigned. A close second is adding a competent outside pass rush
November 20th, 2015 at 10:17 am
I agree we have to address the depth at the wr position but I think we should do that in FA…we have to focus on the defense in this draft…depending on where we pick I wouldn’t mind grabbing a lt in the first round if tunsil/Stanley are available…if that’s possible I say draft one of them and draft all defense after that….GO BUCS!!!
November 20th, 2015 at 11:04 am
Most teams have depth problems in the salary cap era, it’s just the way the league works now. Pick another thing to complain about Shaun.
November 20th, 2015 at 11:24 am
I thought I just read about how amazing Humphries is? I can’t keep up with these articles!
November 20th, 2015 at 12:28 pm
“No one on the team is making catches that are not thrown directly to them.” Did King even watch the game? Brandon Myers made a unbelievable catch in the Dallas game. Someone let Shaun King know that Matt Casell played for Dallas in Tampa last week. I have to disagree with drafting another OL in next years draft. I say keep paying Evan Smith and Logan Mankins. E Smith and Pamphile can then back up G/T/C. It looks like Demar Dotson has seen his last year as a Buccaneer. Why draft OL when we have quality depth already? Add a Guard/Center in the 2017 draft. Next year should be to focus on defense and add a WR in FA. What will truly pay dividends next year is all the experience the rookies are getting. No other NFL team is playing so any rookies this year.
November 20th, 2015 at 12:28 pm
Please update the picture of King, he’s now about 300lbs. He played QB for the Bucs, but he has no expert ability, he doesn’t study tape and if not for a local call he’d be just another guy walking around with an opinion. Actually….thats what he does!
November 20th, 2015 at 12:51 pm
Can we trade for some WR depth in the offseason? I’m shocked we didn’t a few weeks ago! Heck, Hakeem Nicks was available last week!!! I like guys like Dontee Dye and Ranell Hall, but they are projects. We need real, mid- level NFL talent for backups. What we have is guys who will tell their kids about how they played with HOFer Jameis Winston for one year.
November 20th, 2015 at 1:42 pm
Shaun King, one of two Bucs QB to lose the NFC Championship game when their defenses gave up 11 or less points.
November 20th, 2015 at 2:39 pm
It’s generally accepted that the most difficult positions to fill are QB…LT..and a great pushing DL.
We’ve got a competent LT…a franchise QB…what we are clearly desperately missing is an edge rush.
I agree with all that it would be nice to add to our WR’s or gain even more depth in the OL…but we DESPERATELY NEED the edge rusher!!!
Lovie has given away the first two drafts to the offense….must have taken some real ‘nads to go against his grain and draft all offense…the third year is a charm…he’s going to load up on defensive players and I don’t blame him.
November 20th, 2015 at 5:13 pm
Agree StPete we need a stud DE!