The Legend Of Ali Marpet
November 3rd, 2015
Steal.
Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht forever will be known (for good or evil) as the man who drafted America’s Quarterback, Bucs signal-caller Jameis Winston.
But it may be Licht gambling the next day like a nearly-hit-the-wall dude at 4:30 a.m. at a Vegas roulette table where Licht made his bones as a GM.
It was there in May, after trading up and back into the second round, that Licht pulled the lever on an offensive lineman, Ali Marpet, from a Division-III college Joe never heard of.
It was the highest a Division-III player was ever selected.
Eyebrows were raised all across the NFL and even Joe was highly suspicious. How could a guy used to playing against tackling dummies with a pulse block grown-arse men, some of the biggest human freaks walking the planet?
Well, seven games into his rookie season, Marpet not only looks like a steal, but Licht confessed in a recent “Move the Sticks” podcast with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks of NFL Network, that Marpet has even surpassed Licht’s expectations.
“I can’t tell you with a straight face that I thought Ali would be starting and playing at this level this quickly when a year ago he was getting ready to play Merchant Marine or whatever,” Licht said.
After Marpet was drafted, Joe was told by trusted Bucs sources that their plan for Marpet was to ease him into the NFL and, hopefully, by mid-season, he would be starting. But during training camp, Marpet held his own going against Gerald McCoy and the Bucs realized they had something truly special.
Marpet just may go down as the greatest draft day thievery in Bucs history. This is the kind of pick that cements a general manager as a master of the draft.
November 3rd, 2015 at 2:58 pm
Legend????
November 3rd, 2015 at 2:58 pm
Agreed Joe. It’ll be interesting to see what Jason Licht and Lovie Smith will do in next year’s draft. I expect nothing less than a repeat of the past two drafts in terms of success.
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:03 pm
hopefully they can draft someone who can get to the passer from the edge and someone who can cover someone.
I can only remmeber one DB getting a finder on a ball this year without a penalty and that was Banks Vs Washington.
Love the draft, but damn we need a few more players.
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:05 pm
talented offense now…All DEFENSE in 2016!
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:07 pm
Marpet just may go down as the greatest draft day thievery in Bucs history.
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Hyperbole is fun, but
A) He’s a second round pick, you expect those to start
B) He was picked 61, Lavonte 58. Lavonte is by far a bigger steal right now
C) Ronde is going to the HOF and was picked in the 3rd round.
So we have literally 15 years before we can have this conversation. But hyperbole is fun.
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:07 pm
If he were a draft master he would’ve taken La’el Collins in the 7th instead of a fullback that we would never use…..
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:10 pm
Let’s see him play well for a few seasons before declaring him a draft steal. We’ve seen too many Bucs rookies play well for a year then disappear
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:23 pm
PFF has him rated as the number one guard IN THE NFL last week, and the best run blocking guard in the entire NFL since week 3. They refer to him as a mauler. That’s an incredible draft pick, especially considering Kwon was picked shortly thereafter and he may be DPOW.
PFF O-line grades are a borderline scam, but that doesn’t take away from Marpet’s rise. –Joe
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:25 pm
I was very skeptical of this pick… I would rather draft lineman from the SEC or Big Ten or PAC at very least a Div. I program… But Marpet has been solid so far holding his own as a rookie… Impressive…
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:27 pm
Number one ranked guard in the NFL this past weekend and best run blocking guard in the NFL since week 3. With Kwon who will likely be DPOW picked shortly thereafter, and Winston earlier this is looking like it may be on par with the Brooks/Sapp draft when all is said and done. Of course there are
Many more seasons to be played, but it’s quite a haul of talented players!
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:30 pm
Between the solid players we have coming up in our system and the promise that comes with having a scouting department that seems to know what they’re doing, it’s hard not to get excited about the years to come with Licht at the helm. Hopefully Lovie knows what to do with the talent he’s getting.
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:31 pm
I think Josh Norman in the 5th was a pretty good find.
If somehow Kenny Bell works out as even a #3 receiver….then Licht hit a home run in the 2015 draft……picks 1-4 stating & playing well.
And….we did well in 2014 with Evans, ASJ, Simsh & perhastps Pamphile.
We have mostly struck out with FA….except for some UDFAs.
I think the difference is mostly attitude and lack of effort from the FAs.
One or two more successful drafts and we will have a very competitive team.
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:32 pm
Still wish we would have thrown a 7th round flyer out there on La’el Collins. That would have made Licht a legend.
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:34 pm
Ummmm I tweeted you Joe about Marpet being ranked the top guard but cmon Ronde in the 4th. Stone cold-Steve-Austin-that’s-the-bottom-line-lead-pipe-lock
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:35 pm
We can’t stick Licht with the free agent busts. The ties that almost all of them have to Lovie’s Chicago days shows that there is a clear difference in who has a say over what. Licht does the draft. Lovie brings in his guys in free agency. Hopefully after this year we’ll shift to Licht and his guys being in complete control of the roster and Lovie can just focus on coaching because it’s clear that that’s an area that needs more attention.
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:36 pm
Could have been the the third round for Ronde. Also Joe I believe you wanted Jackson from the SEC at guard instead of Marpet the time of the pick. Can’t quite blame you however I went nuts when we picked Marpet. Not quite what I did when I heard Winston’s name called
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:44 pm
Sure…..Lovie has some busts in FA…..but certainly Licht had some responsibility for some……Johnson, Collins…..come to mind.
If you consider Lovie’s defensive input in the draft…..then perhaps he is mostly responsible for Kwon.
I guess we will never really know about some of the decision making…..
For me…..like Lovie or not……like Licht or not……the two are both responsible for the success and failures of both the draft and FA.
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:48 pm
@TBBF – I think you’re right to a certain extent. I think our first two years of free agent busts probably have something to do with the pairing of a well known, HC who has brought a team to a super bowl in the past matched up with a first time GM. I think, I don’t know of course but I think, that there may have been a bit too much deferring to Lovie’s wishes going on in FA. Hopefully Licht has shown by now that he has the evaluation talent necessary to have more of a say in FA acquisitions.
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:49 pm
Keep Licht.
Fire Lovie.
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:51 pm
Everyone is talking like Lovie will be here next year. And what happened to Whisenhunt with the new QB today?
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:59 pm
Those that watched the Senior Bowl knew plenty about Marpet. We knew enough so when the SEC Love Mongers were clamoring for ANY SEC player over all other players on the planet regardless of position, ability, and skill, and we went with Marpet, we were pleasantly surprised. The only OG I liked more than Marpet was Laken Tomlinson and you saw how far his stock rose after the Senior Bowl (he went from a 5th rounder to a 1st).
For those of y’all forgetting….Ronde was a 3rd rounder, as was Lynch. James Wilder a 2nd rounder, Jimmie Giles was a 3rd rounder by the Houston Oilers. I think the biggest steal of this draft so far is definitely a Buc..not the #1 overall pick, or Marpet, not even our hopeful stalwart at LT in Smith…but in round 4, MLB of the present and hopefully future All-Pro, Kwon Alexander.
November 3rd, 2015 at 4:02 pm
Yeah, I remember Joe whining and crying about what a horrible pick Marpet was…”how can you pick a division 3 guy based on the senior bowl”… My how things have changed!
Joe never wrote that Marpet was a horrible pick. Why make stuff up? –Joe
November 3rd, 2015 at 4:02 pm
I am not sure how many times I have to explain this. It is not considered a steal when all of the other NFL scouts had 2nd round grade on Marpet and he went in the second round as projected. Do none of you guys remember that Belichick and Seattle wanted this guy in the second round. Look at seattle’s line. It is horrible and they could use Marpet. Look at the patriots’ line. It has three rookies on it and Marpet would have been one of those rookies. The bucs understood this and jumped back into the second round. Just because Joe and all of the GM posters on this site had never heard of Marpet does not make him a steal. Those who are paid to locate talent knew who Marpet was and that is why he was invited to the Senior Bowl. He does not classify as a steal. Give the scouting department credit for scouting a 2nd round pick properly as the rest of the league did and we did not draft a bust in the second round like Dexter Jackson or Arelius Benn whom neither had a second round grade.
Allegedly, needs to be next to all of your comments on other teams and Marpet. –Joe
November 3rd, 2015 at 4:02 pm
Patrick in VA Says:
November 3rd, 2015 at 3:35 pm
We can’t stick Licht with the free agent busts. The ties that almost all of them have to Lovie’s Chicago days shows that there is a clear difference in who has a say over what. Licht does the draft. Lovie brings in his guys in free agency.
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I hope you’re ready for the Lovie trolls to come after you. You did not bow down to the proper set of ideals: Anything good is because of Lovie, anything bad is because of Licht/Schiano/Dominik.
November 3rd, 2015 at 4:06 pm
First it was a horrible pick…now he’s a legend
November 3rd, 2015 at 4:08 pm
@Tiny Tim – So, the fact that we jumped up in the draft and grabbed him before another team could do it later doesn’t make it a steal? That sounds to me like the definition of a steal…
November 3rd, 2015 at 4:15 pm
Patrick in VA Says:
November 3rd, 2015 at 4:08 pm
@Tiny Tim – So, the fact that we jumped up in the draft and grabbed him before another team could do it later doesn’t make it a steal? That sounds to me like the definition of a steal…
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So it is obvious you are new to the draft. Trading up in the draft to ensure you get your player does not mean it is a steal. It means you secured your guy because you do not think he will be around when you draft again. That means there are a few teams that value the prospect the same way as you do. That does not make him a steal in the sense that Joe is speaking in this article as if he was an unknown ala Tom Brady. Brady was a steal because no one expected him to be this good and that is why he was drafted in the sixth round. I am sorry if you do not understand the difference.
November 3rd, 2015 at 4:20 pm
Talk about hot and cold…JOE needs PROZAC!
November 3rd, 2015 at 4:25 pm
I remember Licht being praised in particular for the great deal he made for Verner…..also accolades for Johnson……now it seems that those were all Lovie’s choices that didn’t work out.
I am no Lovie Smith fan…..but if I am going to give him credit for the failures….then I have to cred him for the successes.
I find it interesting that fans want to call Licht a “Lapdog” then praise him for all the decisions he made unilaterally.
November 3rd, 2015 at 4:28 pm
PFF graded him as the best guard in the league for week 8.
Ali Bomaye! Ali Bomaye! Ali Bomaye!
November 3rd, 2015 at 4:37 pm
The four player in house MVP’s for the Bucs thus far, Jameis, Doug, Kwon and Marpet, in no particular order? Well maybe in order.
November 3rd, 2015 at 4:37 pm
Last Sundays game may have been the best, most exciting Bucs performance since 2002. Howard is starting to feel some real, no-BS positivity in the air.
November 3rd, 2015 at 4:42 pm
Seemingly an excellent pick no matter how you slice it.
November 3rd, 2015 at 4:44 pm
Lavonte? All hes stealing this season- is money.
Zombie
Marpet and Donovan . . . And Kwon
Two outstanding Drafts in row.
Loving me some L&L
And , I expect David to improve dramatically. Some players lay down once they sign a big contract.
I dont believe Lavonte is like that.from What I see, he’s trying to do to much
November 3rd, 2015 at 4:45 pm
Allegedly, needs to be next to all of your comments on other teams and Marpet. –Joe
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Allegedly needs to be next to other teams? You are in the media Joe. You did not see/hear/read those reports? I know everything you read is not true but if you think the bucs was the only team interested in Marpet then you are smoking something you should put down. Better yet, continue to call Marpet a steal and that the bucs were the only one interested in Marpet in the second round. I will let that be your little secret. Not sure why the word allegedly needs to be by Marpet’s name though. He did have a second round grade. That is not allegedly. You know there is this thing called google.
November 3rd, 2015 at 4:47 pm
Just to set the record straight, Rhonde Barber was the “Greatest draft day thievery in Bucs history”!!!!!
November 3rd, 2015 at 4:59 pm
Have you guys noticed nobody is complaining about the O line being a weakness anymore? It doesn’t appear to be. I’m more worried about the secondary by far. And anyone that thinks firing Lovie is intelligent will be setting us back by 3-4 years for no reason! We are doing a great job bringing talented players in from the draft and we need to stay the course!
November 3rd, 2015 at 5:05 pm
I’m stoked about Jameis’ success, but Marpet picking it up like he’s doing gives me a Bucsboner. I’m so excited about this. Now I haven’t heard much of anything about Donovan Smith. Does that mean he’s doing well? If not, and he doesn’t pan out, would switching him at LT w Marpet (his college position) be a bad look?
… McCoy jab alert: ahhh you already know what I’m going to say
November 3rd, 2015 at 5:11 pm
Buccfan37 Says:
November 3rd, 2015 at 4:37 pm
The four player in house MVP’s for the Bucs thus far, Jameis, Doug, Kwon and Marpet, in no particular order? Well maybe in order.
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I’m going to add Howard Jones to this list. 3 sacks in 3 games a forced fumble and a TD. Not too shabby, especially with limited snaps.
November 3rd, 2015 at 5:16 pm
Mike
DSmith is doing great!
November 3rd, 2015 at 5:21 pm
@PocketPirate
You crossed the line in attempting to steal Joes show with your post 🙂
November 3rd, 2015 at 5:41 pm
@TinyTim
NO, it’s obvious that YOU ARE NEW TO THE DRAFT! Please allow me to dumb this down for you so that you can understand what’s going on. Did you ever think that when Joseph said “steal” that he might have been referring to the fact that Marpet is playing like he SHOULD have been drafted in the 1st round!? If that is the case, then it was a “STEAL” for L&L to get him where we did in the second round!
I’m sure other teams had high draft grades on him, but it was L&L who showed BIG BALLS(Swinging past their knees) taking a chance on this kid! L&L knew WHO THEY wanted, had a plan in place, and EXECUTED the plan. It’s as simple as that! You don’t work in any other front offices so don’t try to make up stories about how he was going to get picked up sometime after us. AND IF HE WAS, guess what we did! We STOLE the PICK from them!!! Therefore, he would be considered a “steal”………
Your attempt to discredit how GREAT this pick has been officially shut down! THANK YOU!
Don’t worry, I got your back Joe!! ( OH MY! )
“It’s as simple as that” – Lovie Smith
November 3rd, 2015 at 5:42 pm
Pocket Pirate is right.
Long gone are the days of worrying about the Oline keeping Jameis alive. As a run blocking unit, they are very good. As pass blockers and blitz pick ups, they are decent and getting better.
The secondary is now the OFFICIAL weakness of this team. Followed by doing, Qb pressure is inconsistent.
Market is a rookie, but so far he has Pro Bowl caliber stamped on him. Good call Mr GM. No go buy a new suit..
November 3rd, 2015 at 5:51 pm
Mike10, I haven’t heard anything about Donovan, but I noticed that every time I see Winston have to run away from pressure, it’s from the Left side. Most, if not all of Winston’s “crazy, falling down throws that could be fumbles” come with him running away from left side pressure. Might not all be Donovan’s fault, though.
November 3rd, 2015 at 5:52 pm
build a team around his attitude…GMC is NOT the a leader…this guy all day
November 3rd, 2015 at 5:53 pm
GMC wishes he was as nasty as this guy
November 3rd, 2015 at 6:05 pm
I give up….
If you STILL don’t realize why we didn’t draft Collins, please leave.
Seriously. Just close the browser and don’t come back.
IMO, that would be a horrible idea. Marpet doesn’t have the right body type to play either of the Tackle positions. To me, his body type is the perfect for Center.
November 3rd, 2015 at 6:54 pm
Marpet is playing really well in his rookie year and would seem to have a very bright future in this league.
Considering where he came from and the lack of experience playing against quality competition until about 8 months ago – Ali’s success and current abilities only 7 games into his pro career is pretty amazing. His capability to step into the starting role from day one – have a pretty good amount of success play in and play out – and get better each week indicating that his ceiling may be very high – this all mirrors Jameis Winston.
The difference is – Winston was the 1st overall pick and expectations are extremely high that a pick like that will be exactly what Winston has been. A budding star.
Marpet was picked at the end of the 2nd round – like 60 players later – and although many scouts gave him a high grade overall and especially for a non div 1 player – everyone knew that taking him in the 2nd or 3rd round was not without risk. There just was not enough tape on him vs quality opponents to be sure that he warranted that type of investment. All draft picks are “gambles” – but Ali was a bigger gamble than most considering the extreme need at RG. Jason stepped up to the plate – took a swing for the fence – and connected big time. Kudos Jason Licht and staff and a big shout out to coach Warhop. A good manager knows when to listen to his people. So considering that Warhop supposedly said that Smith and Marpet were the 2 Oline players he wanted to draft and work with that would potentially be available in the 2nd round – and Licht went out and secured both – that’s some fine GM work by our sophomore GM who is figuring out quickly what works and what doesn’t.
This is what Joe is saying. Joe was never down on the Marpet pick – but was certainly justified in questing early on whether it was wise to take such a chance on a guy like this when the need was so great – and when other good and more well known linemen were still available – just by sitting pat and choosing one in the 3rd round. Thankfully the gamble paid off – and both our rookie linemen are coming along just fine. Especially Marpet. Dude really is a “mauler” and fun to key on and watch.
November 3rd, 2015 at 7:06 pm
Gerald McCoy is doing his job so get off his case. Why is Winston called “America’s QB” on here? Is this a Dallas blog? As far as the Oline goes, I know squat about college players. BUT, I am noticing the zebs aren’t all over the Bucs with holding and off-sides flags like they did in the past. Oline is definitely improving. BTW, what round was Donnie Abraham drafted in? He came from some college no one ever heard of either.
November 3rd, 2015 at 7:06 pm
He got the highest grade on PFF this week like 6.5+
November 3rd, 2015 at 7:31 pm
Excellent post Tiny Tim
November 3rd, 2015 at 7:35 pm
And P.S D.Smith is excelling the last two weeks as well.
Did you hear V.Beasely’s name mentioned in the ATL game?
The answer is NO
November 3rd, 2015 at 7:58 pm
75
He’s not a probowler yet, he’s not perfect yet, but he’s doing a great job. In this case NOT hearing his name is a great thing. Just like PR said you didn’t hear Beasley’s name or Jared Allen or Orapako or ….
November 3rd, 2015 at 8:08 pm
@ Onelove
You have no clue what a steal is. Again, moving up to take a player you targeted in a round in which he was projected to go in does not mean you stole him. It means you made the moves necessary to pick the guy you wanted. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about as it relates to the draft. Your own GM said at the time of the draft that they had ideas of which teams was targeting Marpet so they thought it would be wise to make the trade and move back into the second round and not wait for him to be there at the beginning of the third round. How did he know or come to believe this? Because GM’s talk all the time and due to all of the conversations they have with rival GMs and friends in the front offices of teams, they can surmise or get information. You saw the cowboys move up to draft Claiborne in front of the bucs in the first round a couple of years ago. Why? Because their information was the bucs wanted the cornerback. Was he a steal? No because he was projected to go in the top 10 any way and that is where he was drafted. How you perform once you are in the league is irrelevant to your draft status coming in. Get a clue please!!!
November 3rd, 2015 at 8:18 pm
@onelove
One more case in point for me to educate you with. There were three running backs with first round grades in 2012. Trent Richardson, Doug martin and David Wilson. Obviously the bucs wanted Martin and moved back into the first round to draft him before the Giants were set to pick. Why? Because the Giants wanted and needed a running back and the rockstar knew or thought (whichever one you prefer) the Giants wanted Martin. As it went down, the bucs drafted Martin and the Giants had to settle for David Wilson. Moving up does not mean steal. It means ensuring you get your guy and taking him before the team(s) you have researched takes him!!! Its as simple as that
November 3rd, 2015 at 8:50 pm
Here is a link to the video right after Licht drafted Marpet where he says he moved back into the second round to “ensure” they got their guy. Why would you make a move like that? You make that move because you have info that he may not be around. You do not trade up to pick a player for no reason just so you can look like a genius if it is not warranted. You trade up because you have to because if you do not, someone else will pick said player. It’s as simple as that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD_fZhITLJA
November 3rd, 2015 at 8:52 pm
This draft was fantastic
Now go get some DEs and DBs next year !!!
November 3rd, 2015 at 9:01 pm
@Tiny Tim
You are one confused man… I mean I don’t know how I can dumb this sh!t down anymore than I already have… I’ll try one more time…
Definition of “steal”(NOUN)
(informal) -a bargain.
“for $5 it was a steal”
In this case, what Marpet does while he is in the league IS RELEVANT to whether or not he was a STEAL in the draft! If he continues to play the way he is playing and proves that he was ACTUALLY 1st round talent, instead of 2nd(which is a difference in salary), THEN HE WAS A STEAL(Bargain!)
I will pray for you tonight…
“It’s as simple as that” – Lovie Smith
“Changing coaches about halfway through a rebuilding effort is a recipe for perpetual failure.” – Johnny “America’s Commenter” Dejay
“If Lovie don’t no how to coach so be it… Hard to believe he would get a job offer and you wouldn’t…. Wonder why??? Your idiots that’s why…” – JAB83
“So my advice would be, yes, it’s okay to throw things at your TV when your team has a monumental collapse like the Bucs did on Sunday in Washington. But take a deep breath and understand that it is only going to get worse if you continue to jump from one coach to the next.” – Peter King
November 3rd, 2015 at 9:51 pm
“This is the kind of pick that cements a general manager as a master of the draft.” Really? That is some very high praise considering out of 13 draft picks Jason Licht has made, four of those picks are no longer with the team and another is still on IR. The TE picked in the second round last year has to stay healthy as well. That is 6 out of 13 are either gone or yet to prove they can stay healthy. Granted of the other seven, five are starters. Looking back at the 2015 draft would you rather of taken LT Donovan Smith or CB Ronald Darby? G Ali Marpet or WR Tyler Lockett? A master makes all of his draft picks count.
November 3rd, 2015 at 10:10 pm
If he were a draft master he would’ve taken La’el Collins in the 7th instead of a fullback that we would never use…..
Celly responded to this very well. Why do we still have to read these comments.
Again that was NEVER an option!!! Unless you simply wish to flush a seventh round pick.
Collins was projected as a first round talent before his off field problems. He was not going to sign with a team as a seventh round pick and take the chump money. He and his agent made it clear they would NOT sign as a 7th rounder.
Made far more sense for Collin to negotiate.
November 3rd, 2015 at 10:14 pm
La’el Collins said he wouldn’t play for any team that drafted him after the 5th round. You don’t play with that kind of fire! He wanted to play for the Cowboys so he did, he didn’t wanna be here and he wouldn’t have come.
November 3rd, 2015 at 10:19 pm
Lol, sorry OneLove but Tiny Tim is correct and you are wrong.
November 3rd, 2015 at 10:31 pm
godzilla13…not necessarily there are many 5th -7th rounders that never even make teams. Lots of them are just a roll of the dice at that point in the draft. I don’t know the history and the stats of how many make the club after those rounds, but I’m pretty damn sure it’s a common occurrence. I’m sure some draft analysts would back me up if I had their cell phone numbers… 🙂
November 3rd, 2015 at 10:34 pm
I’m beginning to think one love and jab88 are the same people
November 3rd, 2015 at 10:36 pm
Tiny Tim…I don’t even have to read OneLovie’s comment(I skip over numbskulls these days) to know that you’re right. I can only imagine what he just said, but I’m pretty sure it had to be something about Lovie being a defensive genius or something to that effect.
November 3rd, 2015 at 10:38 pm
Bucfan951…I’m not sure about that, but the style is a bit similar and both of them are vying for a spot on top of Lovie’s WANG!
November 3rd, 2015 at 10:44 pm
Then again….Jab did tell us all that Lovie transformed into an offensive minded coach while he was in his moldy basement for a year. Can’t be a defensive genius if he’s been transformed or morphed into something else. Thank the lord for Lovie making us a better offense, and since the D sucks most of time, that can’t be on Lovie. Perhaps Lovie can morph back into a defensive minded coach for us next offseason. Either that or he gets fired and can become an OC for another team.
November 3rd, 2015 at 10:44 pm
Joe
You never wrote articles about how they wasted a pick on an unproven division 3 tackle? How you liked the Smith pick cause of his size/athleticism and he faced real division 1 talent. That picking Marpet based only on the combine and senior bowl was foolish??
November 3rd, 2015 at 10:53 pm
Having not been here all day I decided to scroll up and I accidentally picked up 2 words from OneLovie’s post during the fast scroll. He said dumb down and I believe he was addressing Tiny Tim. If that’s the case and he’s trying to dumb down anything. Then all you have to do is read every post he’s made for the last 2 weeks, that’s called dumbing down right there in itself.
You’re welcome OneLovie. See ya at the Giants game. Will you be attending the game I wonder just to be closer to Lovie or are you actually going to watch the game? 🙂
November 3rd, 2015 at 10:55 pm
Git him Bo.
November 3rd, 2015 at 11:51 pm
StPete, undrafted free agents have a cap too. They make less than 7th rounders.
November 4th, 2015 at 4:26 am
@Buc1987 Says – “not necessarily, there are many 5th -7th rounders that never even make teams.” Agree, I don’t know any specific statistics but if close to 50% are not going to contribute, even for just depth, should we be calling Licht a jed-i-master?? Especially this years draft, to have two players no longer on the team and one on IR before the season even started? If you look at last years draft sure, Mike Evans should end up being a great pick, which picks that high should be. Charles Sims is looking like a solid pick, however the jury is still out on ASJ. Even Kevin Pamphile is looking more and more like a solid pick. So don’t get me wrong I think Jason Licht is doing well, just miles away from being called the “master of the draft.”
November 4th, 2015 at 12:27 pm
I think Joe’s point is that it’s nice to have 2nd round picks pan out like they should. They rarely did so under Bruce Allen and Mark Dominik. (The same could be said about 1st round picks.) It’s still way too early to put this guy in the Ring of Honor after 7 games, but he’s off to a great start to his career.