Running Jameis Is Most Impressive
November 2nd, 2015
Logan Mankins talks to Joe. (Photo courtesy of Tampa Bay Buccaneers)
Veteran guard Logan Mankins rarely hypes any player, especially himself. And when Mankins feels like talking, usually he has insightful takes.
Joe caught up to the revitalized barbecue master in the happy locker room following the Bucs’ thrilling win at the Georgia Dome.
Mankins was asked to state what’s impressing him about Jameis Winston, America’s Quarterback, and Mankins went right to the running card.
“Awww, [Jameis] did great today. Some of those scrambles were perfect,” Mankins said. “Everyone’s running up the field, and everyone’s got their back to him. He might as well take the easy yards. And when he starts making plays like that, it’s really good. Some of those throws he made, some of the catches we had, he’s doing a fantastic job.
“He’s a smart guy who doesn’t do a lot of dumb things.”
Very interesting that Mankins went to the run card.
Jameis taking a busted shovel pass play into the end zone showed great savvy. (Video here). And Jameis had a 21-yard run that was a classic case of taking what the defense offers.
Tom Brady and most great quarterbacks make that a key part of their game. It’s not about speed. It’s about awareness and poise. Very few things break the back of a defense like an executed quarterback scramble.
It’s another weapon in Jameis’ arsenal, and Mankins knows it and appreciates it.
November 2nd, 2015 at 11:19 am
I can’t overstate this. At this level, Jameis is a better running QB AND throwing QB than Mariota. I cannot emphasize this enough.
November 2nd, 2015 at 11:20 am
and when I say emphasize I mean “Gloat about”
November 2nd, 2015 at 11:24 am
I’m very happy with what’s happening on offense, especially the play of Winston. What a breath of fresh air around here to feel like we have a chance to march and score at any time. And props to Mike Evans for gutting out what looked like a groin or leg injury late in the game.
November 2nd, 2015 at 11:25 am
Sometimes I wish there were only one Joe. It gets confusing when their words differ.
November 2nd, 2015 at 11:27 am
Chan… Jameis was pretty inaccurate yesterday and no where near as good a runner as Marriotta. Jameis really struggled with accuracy missing wide open guys, but the kid found a way to get the job done. I love it. The kid is a smart smart fball player. What a great read on the qb draw. He has shown to be really growing as a player and continues to take care of the ball. He has that knack of dodging defenders by shuffling and knowing when to take off… kinda like brady… where he does just enough to avoid the sack
November 2nd, 2015 at 11:28 am
Hire Gene Chizik as the next Defensive Coordinator.
November 2nd, 2015 at 11:34 am
Anyone catch Father Dungy’s opening monologue last night on “Football Night in America” or whatever they call it about him cracking on Lovie for the decision he made on 4th down? They kind of blew through it. Him and Harrison were bantering about it.
November 2nd, 2015 at 11:36 am
Basically what Mankins is fired up about is..He sees our Bucs developing, playing with passion..wanting to win. He likes this and wants it to become..infectious. Defense played a..little better yesterday. We need that kind of..fire..passion from them every single Sunday. If our Defenses plays fast, hits hard and give their all, WE can win quite a few games. Jameis is starting to look like..the real deal. Our Offense is showing up every week. Just gotta keep our D on the right track. And we will surprise a few teams like we did ATL. Just wins Bucs. It make me feel so good around the water cooler on Mondays. I even wore my Bucs jersey to work.
GO BUCS!
November 2nd, 2015 at 11:41 am
@mike — We are all “Joe.”
November 2nd, 2015 at 11:42 am
@Mike
Playing with backup WR’s and TE’s will cause your timing to be off more times than not. He under threw Evans on 2 deep routes but other than that I thought he looked great and more importantly he stepped up at several key points in the game and made plays.
November 2nd, 2015 at 11:43 am
I don’t hear many crab leg jokes or people comparing him to JaMarcus Russell anymore
November 2nd, 2015 at 11:53 am
Mike
How’s Mariota helping his team win games on the bench or with all those fumbles. Bucs are letting Jameis play and learn NFL football while titans are catering to their gimmick quarterback eith a modified scheme. Mariota has yet to win a game against a quality nfl coach or defense. There is no comparison between Winston and Mariota…..
November 2nd, 2015 at 12:08 pm
Well said tmax and Walter. Both just very well said. It’s not too often that I don’t have anything to follow up after a fans comments, but those just hit the nail on the head with a sledgehammer .
November 2nd, 2015 at 12:11 pm
I’m not sure if enough is being said about the job Koetter is doing. A lot of talk was made about Wisenhut helping Mariota at the beginning of the year, and I think we’re beginning to see the same thing happen here.
I’m seeing
-Jameis taking care of the football (although I wonder if he gets lucky at times, i.e. the late toss to Martin to avoid the sack)
-Starting to look off safeties
-Starting to throw with anticipation
-Pre-snap reads and changes at the line
-LEADERSHIP; not self-proclaimed (cough, cough)
I want to see
-a better deep ball; under-threw Evans @ least twice on would-be TDs
-Following his check-downs
-Stepping up in the pocket
I’d love to hear an expert’s opinion on what the typical blueprint is for the development of a young QB in terms of what to expect over their first few years – especially when starting out the gates.
November 2nd, 2015 at 12:14 pm
Rejoice and be glad…..!
HUGE win, nice poise by Jameis……
November 2nd, 2015 at 12:19 pm
Its funny, before the draft there were those talking as if Jameis scrambling abilities would be worse than Glennon because of a 40 time. I remember trying to tell those uneducated fans that 40 speed and football speed are two different things. I also tried to tell them its one thing to be fast and its another to be athletic like Big Ben etc. They did not want to listen. I wonder if they hear me now? BTW…………This is the real Tiny Tim. One last thing, I am still waiting on Capt Tim to back up his claim. No sir, I have not forgot about your trollness!!!
November 2nd, 2015 at 12:23 pm
Holding the Falcons to 20 points is HUGE.
November 2nd, 2015 at 12:25 pm
I like how Jameis runs over to the ref and hands him the ball. The haters were probably unable to catch that. Their eyes simply would not allow them to see it.
November 2nd, 2015 at 12:27 pm
Michaeljohnson. Great post. Thanks.
November 2nd, 2015 at 12:42 pm
I can see Jamies taking over the leadership role one game at a time. He is filling a void that is pretty wide. Not rushing into it but just gradually inserting himself when the time is right. I saw him really getting the sideline fired up late in the game. Just hope he stays on course and keeps gaining confidence. He is finding a way to make the big plays at key times.
GO BUCS
November 2nd, 2015 at 1:31 pm
Tiny Tim…I of course remember you posting that back then. I agreed with you as well, because I saw JW process what’s going on the field VERY fast while at FSU. He just has that knack to avoid the sack. He also sees and reads defenses extremely quick, Brady-like quick actually.
I stated back then that the only thing that concerned me about Winston was that he was too confident in himself (if that’s even a bad thing)and tries too hard to force a pass into too tight of a window. That was really the only thing that concerned me. I went down the list and checked all the boxes, but that was the only thing I put an X next to.
November 2nd, 2015 at 2:13 pm
Where are all those Mariota fanboys now? Are they watching Mettenberger QB Titans games like Mariota is? I hope so.
November 2nd, 2015 at 5:29 pm
When it was ALI vs Frazier, I was for ALI.
When it was Frazier vs everyone but ALI, I was for Frazier.
I feel the same way about Jameis vs Marcus. The NFL needs BOTH young QB’s to step-up and move their respective teams forward to sustain the economic viability of small city pro football. Moving a franchise to a more economically viable market/city is not without precedent. Hello, LA Chargers..!!
Curious that like ALI vs Frazier, Frazier (Marcus) won the first fight.
I don’t need Marcus to do poorly to recognize and appreciate Jameis’ talent. The difference was apparent, despite the horse race hype, leading up to the draft.
The fact that the Titans QB development method was “tailored” for the TEAM to best utilize Marcus’ talent, “right away”, was smart coaching.
The FACT that Titan opponents caught on to the “Oregon” elements of the scheme after they had some film to study is just a predictable defensive adjustment and better coaching.
The Titans HC/OC should have known that their “Sir Marcus of Oregon” scheme elements wouldn’t last for long and would require a pro-style QB adjustment, sooner than later.
In addition, injuries are the great equalizer in the NFL. How good would Matt Ryan be without the combination of Freeman and Jones? OK..??
Sooner or later Marcus will have to develop NFL-ready QB skills and be able to quickly and effectively read the entire field. Clearly, short passes (slants, hooks and check downs) are useful but can be limiting if there is no downfield threat, or much of a running game to sell play-action.
I expect both QB’s to develop into quality players. Right now the difference is stark, but, I’m chastened by the potential for the tortoise/hare analogy.
Let’s watch this thing play out a little longer before we gloat.
If I’m being truly objective, Jameis needs more reps regarding his footwork technique so that his throws will be more accurate.
He’s a rookie and he’ll hopefully perfect his throwing technique over time. Growth happens when good coaching meets a willing pupil.
We’re lucky to have both.
Go BUCS..!!