Trouble At Home Award
October 6th, 2015
Sympathize?
The Lovie Smith apologists have hit national sports outlets.
Someone on the take at FoxSports.com apparently has been charmed by one of Lovie Smith’s inner circle.
You know the ones: It seemed last week those in Lovie’s inner circle began publicly — and locally — begging for patience with Lovie, when Lovie himself said last year fans should not be patient.
Why the sudden urge for patience? Because Lovie’s inner circle knows he has painted himself into the mother of all corners, starting 3-17 and 0-10 at home, and the path out necessitates winning games immediately.
An unknown scribe on a FoxSports.com slideshow was giving out awards for NFL types yesterday. The author has no byline. Joe can understand. It is so terrible, Joe would be ashamed to have his name affixed.
Below is the element in the “award” for “Trouble at Home.”
“You have to sympathize with Smith a bit. He took over a moribund roster when he was named the head coach of the Buccaneers before the 2014 season. And his job didn’t get any easier this year as he has had to break in a rookie quarterback in Jameis Winston.”
Joe quit transcribing after that because it became a hate screed on America’s Quarterback, Bucs signal-caller Jameis Winston.
Man, talk about revisionist history.
So Lovie has to “break in” a rookie quarterback? Why do you think that is, you nameless imbecile? Because the 2014 quarterback Lovie hand-picked was so godawful he not only led the Bucs to the worst record in the NFL, the Bucs cut him shortly after the season!
So Lovie “took over a moribund roster?” Really? You mean a roster that included Gerald McCoy, Lavonte David and Darrelle Revis? And had Donald Penn (who hasn’t given up a sack yet this year) and Vincent Jackson? Yeah, real moribund alright. A veritable empty cupboard.
A lot of coaches would crawl on their knees to have a nucleus of players like that on their team.
It was Lovie who ran off Revis; not Greg Schiano. It was Lovie who ran off Penn; not Raheem Morris.
Sympathize with Lovie? What the hell, his hands are all over this mess!
Man, that caption on FoxSports.com is either shameful research and NFL knowledge or someone is a rank Jameis Hater has a mighty pro-Lovie agenda. Holy Smokes, you talk about spinning.
October 6th, 2015 at 7:08 am
They can’t get rid of Lovie quick enough to suit me. They need to offer Gruden $20 million a year to come back.
October 6th, 2015 at 7:08 am
Sounds like the writer and the Big Dog collaborated on the article. I enjoy BD, but listened to his show yesterday mouth agape.
October 6th, 2015 at 7:20 am
You could make a pretty strong argument the Jets roster when Todd Bowles took over was even worse than the roster Lovie took over Took Bowles 4 games to do what Lovie needed 18 to do: Win 3 games. Lovie is not the coach the develop a roster, he never did in Chicago hence his affinity for veteran players. Now he wants to try and do something he’s never done, and shockingly the results are horrifying.
October 6th, 2015 at 7:29 am
We fired Gruden for going 9-7.
9. And 7.
#itsabucslyfe
October 6th, 2015 at 7:41 am
I thought about this long and hard, we need to fire lovie as soon as possible.
October 6th, 2015 at 7:47 am
In todays NFL under the salary cap, it would seem to be difficult to be this bad consistently… Well done boys!! He gutted this team to his liking, its on Lovie. To not be competitive in the modern era is just poor management.
October 6th, 2015 at 7:49 am
If I don’t see progress this Sunday I’ll probably check out of this season. Just not worth my time anymore
October 6th, 2015 at 7:58 am
If Lovie was a better coach then the previous coach he should have been able to take the roster inherited and had a better record. he didn`t have the mrsa distraction or the Freeman situation to deal with. the previous coach had to work with a third round rookie quarterback in eleven games and won more than Lovie has so far in 20. Lovie made the roster worse thru his talent evaluation. I wanted to believe he threw those games to get the #1 pick but he has made the team and the defense worst then what he inherited. I believe Shiano or Morris would have done better,they were learning what Lovie was supposed to already know.I too drank the Lovie Kool-Aid and thought he was a GREAT choice,but a loss to j-ville and he needs to go. Bring Gruden back and get MARINELLI BACK TO RUN THE DEFENSE. He was the reason Lovie had success in Chicago
October 6th, 2015 at 8:08 am
Lovie has made his own bed and is sleeping in it now. How about sympathizing for the fans who have to put up with this garbage week in and week out? Especially the ones that spend their hard earned money to go to the Den of Depression.
October 6th, 2015 at 8:09 am
this team is making no progress in this 3-17 debacle….Lovie is a terrible gameday coach….the team lacks an aggressive nature and seems OK with losing…We are going nowhere with Lovie and never will go anywhere…He’s not a good coach, “simple as that”…The cord must be cut now and see who wants to stay around for the next coach…BYE BY THE BYE LOVIE…..
October 6th, 2015 at 8:16 am
The leader of this team was around during the “quit” slide to end Rah’s tenure.
The leader of this team was around during the “quit” slide to end Schiano’s tenure.
The leader of this team was around last year when the team quit early and often.
The leader of this team is here now when the defense quit after the first play in the first game this year.
This teams mettle is weak with the same leader year after year. It’s time for a new leader. Jameis needs to tell GMC to sit down and STFU because he is mentally weak, and this team is mentally weak, and it’s time for a real leader. Right now our leader is Neville Chamberlain and we need Winston (See what I did there?) Churchill!!
When I want to go out at night to be a cat burglar, I put on my GMC jersey because it makes me feel invisible!!
October 6th, 2015 at 8:24 am
I hope we lose to the jags so we can fire lovie as soon as possible
October 6th, 2015 at 8:33 am
ON END OF LAST SEASON GELLING defense LAST YEAR
How does that work if defense has been almost 50% overhauled? SO called system guys make a better selection?
And if he needs time then why do first year coaches like in Atlanta have success?
If its the QB then why COACH put him in without sitting him a bit or ANYTHING else?
This coach is hardly better than the 2 before him. We got rid of Chucky for ALL these Ass-Clowns?
October 6th, 2015 at 8:34 am
Warthog Says:
October 6th, 2015 at 7:29 am
We fired Gruden for going 9-7.
9. And 7.
#itsabucslyfe
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Gruden was fired because he won the same number of playoff games as Lovie in about 6 years following that super bowl. Not to mention several terrible seasons mixed in with that 9-7 season where they lost about the last 5 games straight.
October 6th, 2015 at 8:42 am
The jury is still out for me but Lovie wasn’t the person turning the ball over Sunday, he wasn’t missing field goals, he wasn’t missing tackles/sacks in the backfield and allowing guys to pickup first downs when it should’ve been a loss, he wasn’t dropping INT’s right in his hands in the endzone when the score was still 24-17. Might want to look at more than just the coach and ask yourself why a lot of these guys have been thru so many coaches.
October 6th, 2015 at 8:48 am
Look; the Bucs could start tanking again for the #1 overall pick: losing to the Jags, Skins and Bears will probably insure a 1 or 2 win season and make the Bucs the laughing stock of the nFL. Then fire Lovie and Licht and hire a Bill Polian type of GM and have him hire the best available HC who will have NO ****ing say in personnel decisions…. But will that happen? Probably not; the Bucs will luck out and beat someone and probably go 3-13 or 4-12 and pick in the top 5 of the draft: just so someone like the Bears or Lions will grab whomever would be a great bookend to go along with GMC; the Bucs are good at winning just enough to miss the great draft pick (beatting Cleveland and missing out on Joe Thomas or Calvin Johnson; beatting detroit and slipping from 33 to #7 in the Mike Evans draft etc…)…
Now lets look at what probably will be another loss at home to the Jags: could Lovie get fired for losing to the Jags? Yeah, imagine if the jags and bortles steamroll his D and win 41-14 with jameis throwing 3 picks???? That would have to get him fired. however I bet the bucs lose a close one, probably with their new kicker shanking a potential game winning FG and letting the Jags win late via a defensive collapse or in OT with the Bucs just playing well enough to allow that “BS talking used car salesman of a coach” to spout some more garbage about “progress” and manage to keep his job for a the whole season….
Heck maybe the baby Glazers are trying to alienate us remaining fans so much that they could move 2 + games to London w/o much resistance from anyone here in Tampa (I really think those @-holes are up to something of that nature and thus could care less about Ws and Ls); it would explain their apathy and giving Lovie Carte Blanche as far as running the franchise into the ground ala Leeman ****ing Bennett! That would explain why the Glazers are sitting on their hands and allowing this moron to lose game after game….
October 6th, 2015 at 8:51 am
@Waterboy
Last time I checked, the head coach is responsible for the overall performance of the team. I don’t see Bill Belichick, Mike McCarthy, or Dan Quinn’s teams making a fool of themselves every other week
October 6th, 2015 at 8:54 am
I guess some of you are forgetting the Bucs didn’t have an offensive coordinator last year. Look at Josh McCown’s numbers in Cleveland this year. He’s not doing all that badly. He’s certainly playing better than last season. That’s what having offensive coordinators will do.
Also, the roster from top to bottom was moribund with the exception of a handful of players especially when you compare it to the better teams in the NFL. I look at a team like Seattle and it seems like they have quality at every starting position. The Bucs haven’t had that in well over a decade.
October 6th, 2015 at 9:03 am
“I guess some of you are forgetting the Bucs didn’t have an offensive coordinator last year.”….The excuses you people make for these millionaires is pathetic. ….We all have to face adversity in life. If every coaching scenario were perfect, then what would be the point of having a coach??!!! Have you ever heard the stuttering-stammering-Scott Brantley-fist-receiving-show host infer that all teams have setbacks…They are paid all this $$$ because they are supposed to be the best at dealing with setbacks…….Wake up!!!
October 6th, 2015 at 9:08 am
Excuses excuses, there ain’t no excuses left.
October 6th, 2015 at 9:24 am
I didn’t see Lovie catching any balls, I didn’t see Lovie running for a TD Sunday.
In FACT I didn’t see any NFL coach make a play on the field. So this argument holds no water. If this were the case then any Coach will do and we know that is not true.
COACH is the leader and has everything on his shoulders. THIS TEAM IS PLAYING WORSE EACH GAME. NO IMPROVEMENT! THIS IS THE COACH.
October 6th, 2015 at 9:25 am
I like this sober, straight shooting version of Joe!
October 6th, 2015 at 9:30 am
I just love the people that are blaming a 21 yr old rookie making his 3rd start for this mess, and not the head coach who is a combined 3-17
Lovie Smith would need to go 21-11 from here on out to equal the recently fired Joe Philbin’s record.
October 6th, 2015 at 9:36 am
DallasBuc Says:
October 6th, 2015 at 9:25 am
I like this sober, straight shooting version of Joe!
Except Joe checks out at the slightest implication that Winston could have some responsibility in the loss… That criticism wasn’t even that strong and seemed on point to any rational person.
Some seem to be very quick to point out any flaws in any other rookie on this team. With the exception of Brindza, JW is arguably playing worse than any other rookie. Granted, it is the toughest position but Joe sold us on an NFL ready QB. A Savior.
October 6th, 2015 at 9:46 am
Please change that offensive screen name.
October 6th, 2015 at 9:47 am
It’s hard to win while you’re rebuilding. It’s even harder when your HC may hate losing but you’d never know it from listening to him. The sloppy and inconsistent play on the field looks like it’s coming from the same comfort with losing. It won’t get better until they hate losing enough to stop it.
October 6th, 2015 at 10:03 am
Does any one think marcus would of done well here? seriously if he did he would be benched immediately and lovie would trade for Mc Cown!! Simple as that.
October 6th, 2015 at 10:04 am
First, Joe never suggested four picks didn’t hurt the Bucs. Second, if you are trying to equate the responsibilities and learning curve of becoming an NFL kicker with an NFL quarterback, you sir need to put the bottle down and seek counseling.
October 6th, 2015 at 10:12 am
By my count, Lovie has been the HC for 20 games. In those 20 games there have been absolute BLOWOUTS in 5 of those games
Yes, that’s a rate of 25% — one out of every 4 games Lovie has been the HC have been completely over ten minutes after kickoff.
There’s squads out there that haven’t had a game like that in decades — and Lovie is averageing one out of every 4. Just unreal
October 6th, 2015 at 10:49 am
google #firelovienow and you will see the very same conversations going on in Chicago a few years back. This coach should have come with a warning sticker. Lovie is a serial team killer.
October 6th, 2015 at 11:13 am
Dirk wanted Marcus because he is close to Helfrich. Of course they would have spent time in Oregon and picked Helfrich’s brain. Dirk made Gerrard and other Jaguar QB’s look good.
Where was Lovie during Oregon’s Pro Day? He left early to take a walking tour of Nike Headquarters. Him and Jason bought Nike panties for their mistresses at One Buc!
October 6th, 2015 at 11:17 am
I gotta say, Lovie evaluating talent and managing the roster is the biggest reason we are 3-17. Why did the Glazers bring in Lovie and give him that much control? NTM he came here before the GM. Out of all the free agent bust the padt two seasons, none was worse than Josh Mccown. Maybe it was the Tedford issue. But there is really no one on that staff that can call plays on offense? No one that can get more? And we all know Lovie wanted Mccown from their time in Chicago. Now that affects this year two because we are pretty much going to loose all of those close games, especially early, with a rookie qb. Hell, we’re also going to have truly abysmal performances like we saw on Sunday with a rookie qb. But all of this could have been avoided with some smart personel moves, which falls on Lovie who shares control with the GM. Thats the biggest reason we are 3-17. Sorry Lovie, I think your a darn good coach but you wanted to play GM, be careful what you wish for. You dont get two “growing pain” seasons in this league.
October 6th, 2015 at 11:29 am
LargoBuc Says:
October 6th, 2015 at 11:17 am
I gotta say, Lovie evaluating talent and managing the roster is the biggest reason we are 3-17. Why did the Glazers bring in Lovie and give him that much control?
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Because they’re terrible owners?
October 6th, 2015 at 11:53 am
“We fired Gruden after going 9-7. 9 and 7”
Thanks WartHog, that pretty much says it all.
October 6th, 2015 at 12:27 pm
Bucrightoff…
I think they were desperate. If they dont give Lovie what he wants, he’s on the next flight to Detroit. But in hindsight, all of his experience didnt translate to him being capable of playing GM. They wanted a guy with experience and a name. At the time, everyone was on board and thought the Glazers made a strong hire.
Im not about to call them terrible. They definitly would benefit from hiring someone to run football operations. Hugh Culverhouse was terrible. The Glazers have made some bad hires, but I wouldnt call them terrible.