Excuses Running Out
October 25th, 2015
Today’s Mr. Personal Foul.
It’s one thing to admit a team has no talent on defense.
Tough to say that with Gerald McCoy, Lavonte David and Johnthan Banks on the roster.
Then again, you can’t blame former Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik for running off Darrelle Revis.
It’s another thing to say your defensive scheme isn’t working. And Joe doesn’t think it is a stretch to suggest if Kirk Freaking Cousins goes all Dan Marino on you, rallying a team from a 24-point deficit, then maybe, just perhaps, your scheme isn’t getting the job done.
But it is a whole different ballgame when your team is undisciplined.
And, yes, if your team commits 16 penalties, many of them of the 15-yard variety, there could be a discipline problem on your team.
Just so we are all clear on this, Joe is referring to the Bucs.
That would be Lovie Smith’s team. And a defense that was taken over by Lovie.
Defensive lineman Will Gholston had a grand total of two tackles today — but he made up for it by committing three personal fouls. Gholston had a personal foul in each of the final three quarters. The first two were for unnecessary roughness. His third was for roughing the passer.
Most players figure it out after the first personal foul. Certainly, after the second personal foul, said player might want to realize he’s playing a bit out of control.
A third personal foul? Well, at that point a guy isn’t quite getting it and ought to be pulled. At the end, it all falls back on the guy responsible for the defense.
In each Washington drive that Gholston helped extend with his personal fouls, the drive ended in a Redskins touchdown.
Gholston was so proficient in collecting personal fouls today — at least someone on the Bucs defense was adept at doing something — he collected his three personal fouls in a span of roughly 24 minutes.
Impressive.
But this all goes back to something is very wrong with this defense, with this team.
That would be Lovie’s defense and Lovie’s team. You know, 4-18 Lovie?
October 25th, 2015 at 6:44 pm
1/3 of those penalties where complete BS!
October 25th, 2015 at 6:45 pm
Washington got 7 first downs via penalty. This is coming off a bye week. Need to hold the players accountable, bench them for a series for needless penalties.
October 25th, 2015 at 6:46 pm
The NFL is fixed.
The refs were calling every possible (and some impossible) penalty against the Bucs today.
October 25th, 2015 at 6:46 pm
Stupid penalties + horrible defense + no accountability from horrible players = 24 point blown leads.
October 25th, 2015 at 6:46 pm
Yea, it’s time for Lovie to go folks. Kilter takes over as HC and we can worry about the rest later. You can let this train wreck of a franchise continue. Heads must roll…again.
October 25th, 2015 at 6:46 pm
Even with some iffy penalties the Bucs had chances. They just couldn’t stop anyone
October 25th, 2015 at 6:46 pm
Koetter…damn auto correct.
October 25th, 2015 at 6:47 pm
When I go to bed tonight , I’m going to pray to God that the Glazers fire Lovie Smith by the time I wake up tomorrow. Amen! All hail Dirk for HC!
October 25th, 2015 at 6:47 pm
Same ole’ story huh Tony.
October 25th, 2015 at 6:50 pm
Is it Amazing that before this game the Redskins had scored 3 points in the 3 quarter of any game…
The Redskins have lost all their games in the second half.
Lovie said we started fast didn’t finish…
Haha we lost to the Redskins who haven’t scored more than 3 points all season in the 3rd quarter and Cousins who hasn’t scored more than 1TD in a game….
Lovie didnt only Lose a big lead in a game He lost a big lead to a bad team that is beat up and NEVER in their history have they came back from 24 down
October 25th, 2015 at 6:51 pm
The Glazers are salivating over the possibility of the “London Buccaroos” I’m sure. They won’t fire Lovie. As long as we keep buying tickets they will continue to put this crappy product on the field.
October 25th, 2015 at 6:58 pm
Where was secondary?
October 25th, 2015 at 7:04 pm
I’ve said it since the first week blow out. Lovie offers this team nothing. He isn’t making them better, he’s out coaching no one, and he’s hampering growth and development. Look what happened in Miami after they cut their dim-wit. Time to cut ours.
October 25th, 2015 at 7:09 pm
“Kirk Freaking Cousins goes all Dan Marino”
How many times does Joe have to write and we have read “(Name crappy or inexperienced QB) goes all Dan Marino?”
How many times are we going to get beat by that same slant? Week in and week out.
Lovie is the problem. Licht is drafting good and Koetter has the offense running smoothly. The common denominator is Lovie. Lovie’s defense. Lovie’s handpicked free agents. Lovie’s defensive play calls. Lovies soft cowardice defensive attitude. Lovie sucks.
October 25th, 2015 at 7:10 pm
30 pts is enough to win in the NFl. And win big if…you got a halfway decent Defense. The Glazers will let Lovie finish the season. If he can by some miracle finish 8-8 or close? He saves his job. Another performance like this one though, just might seal his fate. Now, lets truly see what Lovie Smith is made of. All eyes are on you..Mr Smith. Batter up and..Goodluck.
October 25th, 2015 at 7:12 pm
Our upcoming games…..
@Atlanta , Giants, Cowboys @Philadelphia, @Indianapolis Falcons. Our next six games. If we win one of them we’re damn lucky.
I have never seen the Bucs implode like they did today
October 25th, 2015 at 7:13 pm
Stick a fork in ’em….
October 25th, 2015 at 7:13 pm
The Constant. They always will or try to give the game away.
October 25th, 2015 at 7:17 pm
If there’s not any significant changes in this defense the bucs don’t stand a chance the next 6 games. Hate to say it but it’s a true story.
October 25th, 2015 at 7:17 pm
Lavonte David got the contract extension and has basically vanished. I wouldn’t have known Gerald played today, except he jumped offside and got his number called.
October 25th, 2015 at 7:21 pm
We will have the 1st pick in the draft
Something to look forward too
October 25th, 2015 at 7:28 pm
Sports Pros should get paid according to individual game play results, otherwise crappy played results get rewarded the same as good play. What is the incentive to play well? Big contracts, get rid of that crap. Unions are diminishing in America, wages are lower. The NFL Players Association should take a hike into oblivion. Thousands await who will take these overpriced primadonna’s positions for much less pay and have the incentive to excel. A win for owners and a win for fans. Play for pay, the better you play the more you are paid.
October 25th, 2015 at 7:28 pm
why isnt Gholsten getting jacked up for 3 personal foul penalties????? Chuckys head would have exploded on #92…….
October 25th, 2015 at 7:33 pm
This is on the coaches. Coaches cant teach the guy how to play and they continue to let him play when he keeps messing up.
We had close to 16 maybe 17 penalties today. Lots of the same thing we have been seeing all year.
These coaches are terrible. I don’t want to fire them after just 2 years but I really want to.
October 25th, 2015 at 7:47 pm
These guys don’t care they got their money. If they let Doug Martin go they are stupid. Lovie needs to be fired. They should have never hired him. Mike Jenkins needs to go. Tim Jennings needs to go. George Johnson was a waste of a draft pick.
October 25th, 2015 at 7:49 pm
Maybe McCoy or Lavonte should have pulled him aside and said something like “bro, get your head out of your a** and quit the bullsh*t, or else!”????????
But no, McCoy and David aren’t alpha males or leaders of men.
Makes me think the inmates are running the asylum?
Maybe the alpha males on this team aren’t good football players and the locker room is toxic? There’s zero accountability here.
October 25th, 2015 at 7:52 pm
Michael did you write if Lovie can finish 8-8 …
BaHaaaaa
He can’t beat the Redskins with 4 starters hurt…
Cousins hant thrown more than one TD in any game until today..
We couldn’t beat Florida State this year.
8-8. Who can we beat????..Atl, NY, Carolina…. Nope..
Chicago. Maybe.
Win 3 which means Lovie will be 5-27 in two years…
The Bucs will keep him because of the money they have tied up in him…
October 25th, 2015 at 7:58 pm
I’m not really gonna sit here and blame Lovie for losing , it’s not his fault really . His team is looking very close too being complete and losing gets you somewhere . It really does . It brings life lessons too you . It can be rewarding if you look at it that way. Lovie smith learned his lesson he should of stuck with the man to man defensive secondary . He should of kept revis and this issue we have now wouldn’t be an issue we would of been probably 4-2 instead of 2-4 . We need a bunch of big fast experienced CBs who aren’t afraid of being the best . I don’t blame Lovie for losing , however I do blame hI’m for not putting the team in a better situation too win. He chose Leslie fraizer as his defensive coordinator and he hasn’t exactly coordinated anything . This team on defense is allowing way too many points and it’s becoming a serious problem .
October 25th, 2015 at 8:04 pm
You know naming Dirk Koetter HC may be the best thing we could do , I mean after all he does a great job at getting his team too score . Couldn’t do a worse job than Lovie is doing on defense . May be that time here in a few weeks too get rid of Lovie and Fraizer then again I doubt it . I think are future HC will be Dirk Koetter though. Where is monte kiffin ?
October 25th, 2015 at 8:05 pm
I’m really pretty optimistic right now. I know I wasn’t but I think their working hard and they may actually get there. I do believe Livie has to adjust his scheme but he may just do it. Need a good defensive draft next year and maybe they’ll be better. The offense is scoring points and that’s half the battle.
Keep your chin up Bucs’ Fans.
October 25th, 2015 at 8:39 pm
I can’t help but laughing, sorry buccaneers fans. I’m a bears fan and I can’t help but chuckle to myself when reading these comments about love smith. They’re the same old comments that I would read and sometimes write after lousy bears games. It’s obvious Tampa management didn’t read any of them lol. Love smith is a checkers player playing a game of chess, simply out coached. His loyalty to his players is to the detriment of the team. He took horrible ex bears players ie Conte, wright and who knows who else to your bucs…they were brutal in Chicago. They were run out of the city, constantly being laughed at by the media. Seriously they were embarrassing. To say it bluntly, absolutely fire love now or he will ruin you for years to come. He has severely damaged the bears for years so learn from our mistakes. Oh and his defensive scheme is outdated, any decent qb can pick apart his weakass zones. Sorry guys cover 2 doesn’t work anymore, you’d think he would of realized that 8 years ago. Oh yeah he’s stubborn to lol. Feel sorry for your fans.
October 25th, 2015 at 8:42 pm
He needs to go. Now
October 25th, 2015 at 8:44 pm
The Tampa 2 is still bad. nothing to see here.
October 25th, 2015 at 8:52 pm
How many of these losses do the fans have to endure before the Glazers admit their mistake and realize L&L are worthless.
October 25th, 2015 at 8:55 pm
Who the F cares anymore? Not me!!! I will spend the remainder of my weekends rooting for every team playing the bucs and I guess if I want to be a fan of a winning, competent team, then maybe I will become a Patriot fan. The Bucs are no longer worthy of fans. And anyone silly enough to remain on board is just a glutton for punishment and deserves the grief. Get out now!!! This is NOT a professional organization!!!
October 25th, 2015 at 9:01 pm
Here is what I saw. The offense is the strength of this team, who saw that coming. Good game O. The pass defense again proves that they are the remedy for a QB who needs a good game. That’s 3 iffy QBs with the best games of their careers this season. I get why people say we won’t fire Lovie mid season but we could. Or at least force him to give the defense back to Frazier. Obviously he handle both jobs and the defense wad improving last year. Can’t say the same right now.
October 25th, 2015 at 9:04 pm
stupid coach…stupid team…how many penalties…absolute effn idiots…
October 25th, 2015 at 9:08 pm
I saw zero Pass rush after the first quarter and minimal secondary play after the first half. The team lost two important receivers yet the skins lost a bunch of their defense. The rest is history. I think Lovie is the catalyst, unfortunately and should be dispatched to where all bad coaches go……the woodshed.
October 25th, 2015 at 9:27 pm
What makes a fan a fanatic??? Is it negative support when a team is bad or positive support when a team is good???
Let’s be real honest… All you fire Lovie and this team suck people are not fanatics… Your fans of kicking kittens because its what makes you feel good…. Your points are pointless and your “concerns as a fan” are fabricated to justify and hide your real desire as wife beaters…
A real fan realizes the dog days just make the glory days that much sweeter…. A real fan sees improvement and looks for corrections to issues… A real fan sees this team has direction for a change and knows calling for the coaches head would usher in more of the same….
So to all you sad sorry fake fans… You really do a good job of abusing the true fans and mixing your hatred in with the real fans whos concerns and disappointment is valid….
I just wish you trolls would get a life but I realize bottom feeding garbage eating scum like you all get off on feeding on what you call a “garbage bottom dwelling team and franchise”. It just so happens by saying that about the team means you also feel that way about this city and your life… Can’t wait for you all to choke……….. On your words….
October 25th, 2015 at 10:13 pm
Bwahahaha
October 26th, 2015 at 3:34 am
Joe i might think your a scumbag, but you sure as hell know how to make a lot of sence. li knew the redskins won the minute tampa started running the ball in the 2 minute drill, and they never gained momentum after that.
October 26th, 2015 at 6:36 am
JAB83: and how many of these losses that should have been win does a real fan tolerate????? Besides the Bucs and possibly Raiders I can not think of a franchise that has managed to lose in every possible way over the past 5 seasons: blowout, losing via O’Deas special teams, Lovie tanking for a draft pick, penalties, bad defense, bad kicking, everything neagative and very few positives! anyone who thinks the Bucs are close to turning the corner are certifiable…. Lovie blew a 24-0 lead today JAB83, he let the Titans beat him by 34 ****ing points, they not have won since…. Lovie’s bucs lost to a Houston team that was down by 40 to Miami before someone told the Miami coach that the o/u needed to be on the high side and he pulled his starters… Lovie is a bad coach and he can not blame the talent as his GM Licht picked most of these ****ers! I have been a Buc fan since ’76 and the last time I was this frustrated was when Schiano was 0-8 and before that when the Bucs were coached by ****ing Leeman Bennett….. Put down the Koolaid Lovie lovers, this team is bad and you really think another year of Lovie is gonna help???? Fire him, Fire him now Glazers!