2015 Blame Game Shouldn’t Include Team Glazer
October 5th, 2015
The blame game is one of the easiest and most creative exercises on earth.
You almost can’t lose. There’s always an angle to hang blame. Heck, last week, an ex-Buccaneer blamed the disease known as Kyle Brindza on former Bucs rockstar general manager Mark Dominik.
That brings Joe to Team Glazer, which took shots this morning from Bucs beat writer Rick Stroud on WDAE-AM 620. Stroud and fellow Times writer Tom Jones were talking about Team Glazer bearing a healthy dose of responsibility for the current Buccaneers record.
Joe heard that and felt compelled to stop the madness.
Go ahead and blame Team Glazer for various things in the past, but Joe finds it ridiculous to hang the uncompetitive, 2015 Buccaneers on Team Glazer.
The reality of the current Bucs is simple. In 2014, Team Glazer swiftly handed a respected, winning head coach, Lovie Smith, the keys to the franchise. Together, they all hired highly-recommended, experienced-with-winners, first-time general manager Jason Licht, who had worked alongside Bill Belicheat and Andy Reid, and came fresh from the outstanding Cardinals organization.
Team Glazer did what most fans and football people would advise: They cleared out of the way and gave the checkbook and the keys to the team to their hired experts, Lovie and Licht.
Team Glazer answered the bell. They made sound hires and trusted them.
So for 2015, Joe will not permit blame to be spread to the owners’ offices. It’s ludicrous and lazy, and relying on football’s version of ancient history.
October 5th, 2015 at 9:58 am
Bucs haven’t been competitive since Malcolm got sick. Coincidence?
October 5th, 2015 at 9:58 am
The Glazer Boys history
Fired Gruden
Hired Dominik
Hired Raheem
Hired Lovie
Hired Licht
1 winning season, 5 seasons of 4 wins of less.
Sorry Joe, but at what point can we safely say they aren’t very good at this? They certainly aren’t anything close to Malcolm. They are in Culverhouse territory.
October 5th, 2015 at 10:03 am
I think they know exactly what they’re doing. Creating the environment to move the team to London or LA.
October 5th, 2015 at 10:09 am
Glazers hired Lovie. I didn’t. Licht didn’t. Glazers fault.
October 5th, 2015 at 10:09 am
Glazers can be blamed if they do not accept the crystal clear reality that Lovie Smith is incompetent and cut bait at the end of the season or earlier.
Holding on to a mistake because of money or pride or inability to acknowledge it is a recipe for further disappointment and more losing football.
Glazers, fix this mess please
October 5th, 2015 at 10:12 am
Let’s give Licht a share of the failures…….
October 5th, 2015 at 10:18 am
If we loose to the Jags, start looking for that GM. Fire Licht first to give the new GM time to get his office together and all that good stuff. Then come black Monday, take Lovie to the guilotine (metaphor) and then please Glazers. Leave your new GM alone! Let him hire his coach and make the GM the director and leader of all football operations. The biggest flaw in this regime washiring Lovie first and giving him so much power. His talent evaluation is awful. And unless you got Bill Belichick, keep your coaches in the kitchen so to speak.
October 5th, 2015 at 10:19 am
The Glazers need to hire an experienced president of football operations and let him straighten this mess out. Let the General manager do his job and stop hiring coaches that want total control over personnel. Lovie hired Jason Licht, not the other way around. That is the backwards way of doing things. Coaches need to coach and only coach, period. All decisions on personnel fall right at the feet of Lovie, not Licht. Coaches should only make decisions on final roster.
October 5th, 2015 at 10:19 am
Exactly @bucrightoff
I have been saying for years they need to hire a highly proven POF (President of Football Operations). The Glazers do not have a clue.
Well at least my Gators are turning it around.
October 5th, 2015 at 10:21 am
I say keep licht.
October 5th, 2015 at 10:24 am
Keep Licht. He has done a good job. The coaching… not so much. No improvement imminent.
October 5th, 2015 at 10:26 am
Bucrightoff is right: the last coach to start off as bad as Lovie has was one Leeman Bennett who finished 4-28 in 2 seasons (’85/’86) before he took his parting gifts and moved on. Do we have to tolerate another 2-14 season before the Glazers can lovie???? And worse even is that bennett had no chance of winning with his Bucs because of Hugh Culverhouse being so F*****ng stingy! The Glazers gave Lovie Carte Blanche and he has ruined this franchise. Fire him, Fire him, fire him next Monday if he loses to the Jags! its the humane thing to do!!!!!
October 5th, 2015 at 10:26 am
Well they spend the least of all nfl teams on scouting and they gave us Raheem and Mark the pop star Dominick joes hero.
They actually fired Jon gruden and hired Raheem Morris are U kidding me???
Not that he was Paul Bear Bryant but Schiano would have a competive squad now.
The media hated him so don’t believe all the bad coaching talk they spin.
October 5th, 2015 at 10:30 am
Your article appears logical. Maybe the negativity from the Raheem and Schiano eras will take longer to wash away than we think. But when any franchise in any sport has a lengthy period of poor performance, it is fair to look at the constant: the owner(s). This franchise has had zero success since Malcolm became ill.
October 5th, 2015 at 10:39 am
So accountability is only for people who make less than
$1,000,000,000/year?
Yeah, that makes perfect sense given what I hear in the media.
How the hell are the Glazers NOT accountable for the state of the Bucs?
Every other business owner on the planet is accountable for the state
of their business except for the billionaires….yeah.
Is Joe accountable for the state of JoeBucsFan.com?
I would like to think so.
Releasing the Glazers from blame for the Lovie debacle is tantamount
to releasing them from blame for the state of the Bucs in general.
Very sycophantic take, Joe.
Props to the media members with testicles who hold these owners accountable.
Furthermore its a fact that all three consecutive HC’s have failed under the
Glazer sons whereas zero coaches failed under Malcolm.
October 5th, 2015 at 10:40 am
If the Glazers dont believe in firing trainwreck Head Coaches mid-season with Raheem & Schiano, maybe they need to re evaluate their methods..
Here we have another trainwreck HC, but with a season that can still be saved! Do the right thing Glazers! Cut Bait! Koetter for Interim HC, Leslie for DC, or vice versa!
Save This Season! Fire Lovie Now!!!
October 5th, 2015 at 10:49 am
Winston + FG kicker is the reason we lost last week and I’m Winston’s biggest supporter lol. The only points the defense gave up were on short field turnovers and they held Carolina to FGs. I have t give props where deserved and the defense / coaching has a lot less to do with losing than a rookie QB playing his worst game so far of the season.
The offense had chances to win that game and failed. 5 turnovers to 1 = loss.
I blame week 1 on bad coaching / preparation.
I blame week 3 on horrifically bad FG performance / terrible officiating / dropped passes
I blame week 4 loss on Winston with some small share to the FG kicker who I assume was cut immediately
October 5th, 2015 at 10:50 am
Changing coaches will not solve the problem. Sure, get a new kicker. The difference in the game was 4-interceptions. You have a rookie QB who is throwing interceptions and that is the story. Winston needs time to develop. Period.
October 5th, 2015 at 10:50 am
Glazers deserve blame for giving Lovie full control. He has demonstrated in the past that he is a horrible personnel man and the fact he burns through offensive and defensive cordinators should have been a red light in giving him full control as well. Glazers need a real football man. Not some has been nor someone from the past. Living in the past is stupid look where it got them.
October 5th, 2015 at 10:54 am
Here’s the only link Mr. Smith needs to indicate to ownership to stay the course. And, whether we debate stats are ‘in a vacuum’ or not, it’s an effective selling point (to ownership) four games in.
With one game left on this week’s schedule, we’re heading into Week 5 wth the #9 defense (YPG) in the league.
Now, a LOT of that is due to folks like Mariota and Newton not having to do much after our generous turnover rate, but come end of season, it’ll be remembered only as “promising Top 10 defense” – if it holds.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2015&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1
October 5th, 2015 at 10:55 am
Lovie needs to step it up or he will be gone. No questions asked. But if anyone really beleives that we would suddenly be competetive if we fire Lovie today, you are delusional.
October 5th, 2015 at 10:55 am
@LordC
Thanks for bringing some common sense back to the board. That was a measured and very accurate take.
I can handle Jameis off weak, not just his ints, but his accuracy and mobility were also not as sharp as last week. Growth pains I guess…or at minimum HOPE!
What does bother me though is making the same exact mistake twice. Fameis is simply not able to throw and NFL out pattern. He has the arm strength but he’s so late on the delivery that the NFL DB’s just see pick six written all over it.
Could we take the out pattern out of our offense until Fameis learns how to throw it?
October 5th, 2015 at 10:58 am
Couldn’t agree more about firing Dovie. But the Glazers could care less about winning or losing as long as there making money. The fans keep dishing out there hard earned money to watch this circus act. All the while the Glazers are laughing all the way to the bank & will not fire Dovie till the season is over. If then.
October 5th, 2015 at 11:00 am
I have more faith in Licht & his staff than Lovie.
Should the Bucs lose to Jax—a very real possibility—I’ll be officially calling for his head.
October 5th, 2015 at 11:01 am
He actually hit an out pattern in the game at some point and I tbink even against #24. Just had to get better timing and put more on it.
I believe in him. Was hoping these kinda games wouldnt happen to this degree but he’s a rook. Mariota a also had some bad days in games his team could a won; like 7 sacks against Cleveland with fumbles or bad interceptions / pick 6 / etc against Indy in a game the Titans could have won.
Right now turning on the coaching staff is misplacing your negative energy into and not really good for anything
October 5th, 2015 at 11:04 am
With a rookie QB starting it will probably buy L&L at least another year, rightly so.
JW needs more time, obviously, before he is officially labeled a bust. Maybe Glennon should have started this year to the benefit of both JW and the team this year, though it is almost impossible to sit the #1 pick. If Lovie can’t win at home it will hasten his exit. Finally, JW & MM will always be compared. I have always preferred MM, & he has only increased my expectations. JW needs time, but I am not too encouraged so far. He is very inconsistent and inaccurate, which along with his slow delivery and long throwing motion, tends to cause INT’s. Bucs should remove the quick outs from the playbook, and make JW throw deep, at least then if it is picked it won’t be a pick 6!
October 5th, 2015 at 11:05 am
Are you freaking delusional Joe? The Glazer’s deserve no blame? If Lovie was such a respected head coach, then why did he sit out a year? Why not hire someone to help make the GM/coach hires? That would cost big time money, and also just like the Glazer’s don’t care about league politics, they don’t really care about winning.
October 5th, 2015 at 11:07 am
The Glazers Ok’d the current clown uni’s …enough said about their ability to make good decisions !
They deserve ALL the blame….it’s thier franchise….fix it!
October 5th, 2015 at 11:07 am
At age 30, Eddie DeBartolo became the NFL’s youngest owner when he took over the San Francisco 49ers in 1977. DeBartolo owned the team for over two decades, until he stepped down 2000.
The team won five Super Bowl championships under his watch.
Nuff Said
October 5th, 2015 at 11:10 am
In the Beginning of his Reign
The 49ers’ burned through multiple coaches and general managers. They actually changed coaches fives times in 2 years, and even executed a trade for O.J. Simpson that eventually flopped.
October 5th, 2015 at 11:15 am
DeBartolo was described as a gracious owner, and one who really took care of his players and staff. The way the players traveled, where they stayed, where they practiced, was all DeBartolo’s unique touch. His contributions helped the team establish an identity and made them feel important.
But nobody’s perfect. Everyone knew that “Eddie D” had a temper. DeBartolo was known to throw stuff, and even once kicked and shattered a glass coke machine. He was feisty and HATED TO LOSE, but it’s that passionate, competitive nature that was so important to the 49ers identity.
“Show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser,”
-Edward J. Debartolo Jr.
October 5th, 2015 at 11:19 am
Fire lovie, keep licht, bench jameis, start glennon. Koetter interim HC, hire a new, younger, aggressive, innovative DC. Right the ship now
October 5th, 2015 at 11:20 am
It’s easy to blame ownership but most here were happy when the Brothers brought in Lovie and gave him full authority over personnel. Everyone who applauded that decision is just as wrong as they were.
Lovie needs to concentrate on being a head coach and use his coordinators and position coaches to get their groups playing sound football. There’s not enough depth to be consistent winners yet but no reason they can’t play sound fundamental football.
The Joes like to poke like for playing Turtle but don’t overlook his emphasis on big plays that’s leading to big mistakes and big opportunities for opponents.
October 5th, 2015 at 11:20 am
How can anyone say that ownership can’t shoulder the blame
I know I been harping down this road for several years on this blog. But please
review this franchise before and after Mr. Glazer’s Stroke in 2007.
October 5th, 2015 at 11:30 am
Changing culture is hard and without support from the top, impossible.
“I don’t think it’s improbable that culture will change; I think it’s impossible to change when you as top management are not intimately involved. Without leadership from the top the culture in your company won’t change, and in this particular case your company will not become any more innovative.”
Leadership Starts From The Top
October 5th, 2015 at 11:38 am
Can’t blame the owners for everything. They are forking over money. Only problem it’s to the wrong people. But it’s Lovie making those calls and they are doing what owners should do. Staying out of football operations and just being owners. I don’t think Lovie will survive. Licht I think will keep his job. He will be given control and they will allow him to hire HIS coach. Not the other way around.
October 5th, 2015 at 11:39 am
If Lovie gets fired he still walks away with a big pile of money. He won’t be fired right away.
October 5th, 2015 at 11:40 am
Man I wish Eddie DeBartolo owned the Bucs, or Jeffrey Vinik or Stu Sternberg. Any of these 3 men who have ties to Tampa would be an improvement over the Glazer lads who simply are interested in turning a profit and finding a way to ship as many Tampa home games to London from what I have been reading about their demands coupled with $75 million of improvements to RJS before the 2017 Natl Championship game…. Probably the next sellout we’ll see at RJS will be that National Championship game unless the Gators get an invite to the Outback Bowl in the next 2 seasons or the Glazers send Man U to play a “friendly” at RJS in a deal to get the Bucs to fatten their wallets by playing a home game at Wembley….
October 5th, 2015 at 11:43 am
In case you were wondering:
Mariota= 8tds 2ints 109qb rating
Winston=6tds 7ints 71qb rating
Glennon=19tds 9ints 83qb rating
October 5th, 2015 at 11:57 am
Didn’t I say the posters were like menopausal teenagers? One week Winston is fantastic and the next he’s a bust. Everybody posts before the game how we’re going to get beat by Carolina and then when we get beat it’s a surprise to everyone. Certainly provides a lot of entertainment for Monday reading. LOL!
Winston will be fine. He’s a rookie making rookie mistakes. The O-line is actually starting to look fairly good. They are much improved from week one.
Defense was put in a bad situation with 5 turnovers but the secondary needs some serious work. I don’t see how Verner could be any worse than what was on the field Sunday.
Mike Evans has been invisible. With ASJ down, Evans needs to step up and start getting some separation from defenders. Right now it’s just V-Jax getting any space. Doesn’t help that Jameis has been throwing late and missing a lot of throws that are there by holding the ball too long. He’ll learn. I’ve always said the wins should come in the second half of the season. It would be nice to see progress though. At some point these guys have to get tired of losing and step up.
October 5th, 2015 at 11:58 am
I’m so tired of the rookie QB excuse!! He took a 6 and 10 team and made them 2 and 14 the falcons new coach has won more games and he’s only had 4 obviously his decision making is not moronic like our coach, from his staff to our kicker almost every decision has not worked. He went with Mc Cown,He’s starting all these rookies. -simple as that.
October 5th, 2015 at 12:04 pm
Keep Lovie through the end of the season so that we get the 1st pick again. Dump him and let Licht do his thing. I don’t think Licht has done a bad job.
October 5th, 2015 at 12:05 pm
Winston wasn’t good in Houston, sorry to burst some bubbles. He has only played decent in 1 of 4 games. Lovie needs to turn the defense back over to Frazier…There is plenty of blame including Licht and special teams
October 5th, 2015 at 12:07 pm
I don’t know why, but for some reason I was willing to let Schiano coach out 2013 until the end and Lovie Smith I want gone today.
October 5th, 2015 at 12:16 pm
Simply put L&L are the Anthony Collins and Michael Johnson of GMs and coaches. Glazers are to blame if they don’t realize their mistake and move on.
October 5th, 2015 at 12:17 pm
These players need motivation. Nobody is there to fire them up. Raheem the creator of “Yungry” won 10 of 16 w/ a bunch of nobody players. It takes time? is 13 years long enough? last playoff win was winter of 2003
October 5th, 2015 at 12:25 pm
Ridiculous take. If Lovie and licht bomb that was their hire therefore, their failure. Plus they have been making bad decisions for 6 years starting with the firing of gruden and replacing him with Morris. Then schiano. It’s an accumulation of errors. Thankfully some reporters are calling them out. Also where are these guys hiding? How weak, you put a crappy product on the market and don’t address it. Man I miss Malcolm.
October 5th, 2015 at 12:41 pm
Bobby is in the like 5-10% of commenters with some sort of sense and his take on the commenting crowd is spot on.
Winston played bad and by far his worst game so far and is the primary reason we lost (along with leaving 7 points on the board in chip shot FGs). The fact that we only lost by 14 when we missed 7 points in chip shot FGs; after turning the ball over 5 times to just 1 for the other team is actually kind of remarkable lol. We should have lost that game by 4-5 TDs with those turnovers and missed kicks.
The defense looks much better to my eye test outside of Mike Jenkins being pathetic. They have played well enough to win for 3 weeks now. They didn’t get a lot of pressure on Newton but coverage held up and tackling was better and they gave the offense more than enough opportunity to win the game by forcing punts and holding some turnovers to FGs instead of TDs. The one long TD they gave up was fluky as hell.
Not sure why people are going all mad-hatred on the Glazers & Lovie / etc. The cause and effect make no sense to me there… They didn’t throw 4 bad interceptions or fumble a snap. Those were the reasons we lost man. Simple as that lol
October 5th, 2015 at 12:42 pm
Yungry Says:
October 5th, 2015 at 11:43 am
In case you were wondering:
Mariota= 8tds 2ints 109qb rating
Winston=6tds 7ints 71qb rating
Glennon=19tds 9ints 83qb rating
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I would like to respectfully point out that JW3 has EIGHT touchdown passes, and not SIX. The only problem is that TWO were completed to the opposing team.
tickrdr
October 5th, 2015 at 12:45 pm
@ Yungry
Houston was Winston’s best game imo. You disagree because of box score and losing but that was probably his best game. If 1/2 of those balls are caught (which more than 1/2 should have) he is 60+% for 300+ yards and likely 2 TDs; if not better than that considering so many drops could have been drive extenders.
Right now Winston has played solid in 2 games, and pretty bad in 2 games. Mariota has played great in 1 game, pretty bad in 1 game, and OK in another game.
Regardless 1 year is too little to judge for anything other than potential for the most part. Winston has already made some throws in situations that I’ve never seen Mike Glennon make. I still believe!
October 5th, 2015 at 12:48 pm
A loss sunday and we could be staring 1-15 in the face. Schedule gets harder, not easier
October 5th, 2015 at 1:12 pm
With three rookies starting, and with pick ups like Jack Smith, how can you blame Licht?
October 5th, 2015 at 1:22 pm
“With three rookies starting, and with pick ups like Jack Smith, how can you blame Licht?”
Because people here are losing their minds with the losing and blaming anything they can lol. We actually have 4 rookies starting (Winston/Smith/Marpet/Kwon)
Licht’s drafts have been much more promising than Dominik’s imo
October 5th, 2015 at 1:45 pm
6 years of losing in a parity league. Guys responsible for hiring and firing the leaders of the organization = glazers. This is simple man. As said 100 times before, if Lovie can’t get to six wins or we continue to look like clown on the field (blowouts, turnovers, penalties) the ownership needs to hire a consulting firm to determine next years coach. These guys should be proven experts like polian parcels wolf (see jets 2014).. This is simple not hard..
October 5th, 2015 at 1:58 pm
I agree completely with LUVMYBUCS, success starts from the top in any organization. The Glazer boys are making a huge mistake by handing over the keys to Licht and Lovie and sitting back and leaving them alone. Ownership needs to be leading Licht and Lovie to success and demanding excellence. Clearly, the Glazer boys don’t have the “It” factor that their father had. The proof is in the pudding, the team has been awful since Malcolm became ill and the boys took over. Since the Glazer boys don’t have the necessary leadership skills themselves, they need to hire a true leader to run their business in their stead.
October 5th, 2015 at 2:26 pm
Glazer Bros don’t know the sport, they need to hire a football person to run the team
October 5th, 2015 at 2:31 pm
I usually agree with you, Joe, but not this time. The Glazers are the FIRST to blame. They have made a series of poor decisions and if the Bucs are irrelevant today is mostly because of what they have decided over the years, ever since Malcom stopped being a factor for this franchise. The “Boys” are clueless and they should step aside and let someone else make football-related decisions. I wasn’t thrilled with the Lovie Smith hiring and today I’m at a point where I won’t spend a single cent for this franchise until they show me that they want to field a good product. I’d rather dedicate more time, and money, to the Lightning.
October 5th, 2015 at 2:35 pm
47% completion percentage, 69% qb rating and of course an interception in Houston is a good performance??? Lol, this is the problem. Your expectations are too low! Losing isn’t acceptable and dropped passes happen to every qb in every game. Stop making excuses, he has sucked this year and deep down you know it too
October 5th, 2015 at 2:42 pm
wimpy owners=wimpy team…period
October 5th, 2015 at 2:54 pm
8 dropped passes is like triple the r normal rate and definitely doesn’t happen often on average to other QBs at all
October 5th, 2015 at 3:00 pm
It was 5 dropped passes, stop crying. Winston is HOT garbage. It is what it is
October 5th, 2015 at 4:10 pm
Of course Team Glazer is to blame. Ever since Malcolm got sick the boys have run the ship into the ground. They haven’t made a good decision when hiring front office, coaches or signing players in a decade. They should have closed on Chip. They could have made a run for Arians in 2013 and could have fired Lovie after last season’s dumpster fire and went out and hired Dan Quinn.This franchise is a joke and the blame falls squarely at the top. I am sure Joe is apologetic to maintain access, but lets be honest here.
October 5th, 2015 at 4:28 pm
Raheem, Schiano, Lovie. The same result. The Glazers might not be making the player personnel decisions but they hired the guys that do. It starts at the top.
October 5th, 2015 at 4:47 pm
The name Rich Mckay pops in my mind.
October 5th, 2015 at 7:21 pm
You paycheck yahoos may not understand, but the folks who run
businesses understand completely:
A BUSINESS TAKES ON THE CHARACTERISTICS OF ITS VERY TOP
PEOPLE! Some of you harp on the fact the team has taken on Lovies
benign personality, WELL THE SAME THINGS GOES FOR THE NEXT
STEP UP: The entire Bucs organization takes on the Glazers personality,
which is to be absent, distant and involved…basically to not give a ****.
Do you see it now?
October 5th, 2015 at 7:22 pm
*un-involved*
Damn spell-check
October 5th, 2015 at 9:22 pm
Man we got Debacled!!
October 5th, 2015 at 10:28 pm
I think Team Glazer is directly responsible. Its their job to find competant coaches and executive management. Jason Licht was a brand new first time GM. He had zerro experience as a general manager so right there, Licht was a gamble from the beginning. Lovie had a few good years in Chicago, so he might have been a reasonable choice but then the Glazers let him bring in a offensive coordinator with zerro NFL coaching experience. Lovie is clearly a defensive guy, why would you let him bring in a rookie offensive coordinator. So you have Lovie who has experience, a general manager with no experience at the level you hired him for and a offensive coordinator with no NFL coaching experience and when he went out with a health issue, they turned the offense over to a guy with even less experience. Why would you expect a different result than what we go last year? Lovie was the only hire that was not a complete gamble but if he was such a great catch, why was he out of football for a year. The Glazers owe it to the fans to stay close enough to challenge these guys when they are making bad decisions and they owe it to the fans to do better research the next time they hire a coaching staff. They clearly dropped the ball this time.
October 6th, 2015 at 12:55 am
Yes Joe..I agree that Team Glazer did what they considered to be the “right thing” when they hired Dovie and Heavy. The problem now is they are not the people you thought they were. Owners have a responsibility to the fans in Tampa to provide a quality product and when that product does not pass quality control standards, you have to restructure. The bottom line is today in Tampa Lovie Smith is not respected as a coach and is not considered a winner. Together, with first-time general manager Jason Licht, they have taken a product and continue to have negative results without any foreseeable licht at the end of the tunnel. Anyone who believes that this franchise is going to somehow stop the Titanic from sinking is delusional.
October 6th, 2015 at 2:14 am
The Glazier’s sacraficial move to the masters of soccer really put them in a bind. They have to focus on 1 team, and 1 alone. Either American football, or European futbol. They have A LOT of money invested in both, but the Bucs have a loyal fan base that they need to work on. Manchester has theirs no matter what. The Bucs are struggling. Fix the problem please!