“Mike Glennon Is On This Football Team”
September 4th, 2015
Not interested
During the fourth quarter of last night’s worthless fourth preseason game, AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht talked Bucs with TV play-by-play man Chris Myers and analyst Ronde Barber.
Licht sort of offered a peek behind the scenes of a day in the life of a GM.
Licht was talking about trades and waiver wire deals (nothing specific) and noted that just yesterday, he fielded 12 calls from NFL general managers trying to ship a player or players to the Bucs. No names, teams or draft-pick compensation were mentioned.
Myers tried to squeeze info out of Licht saying, in so many words, quarterback of the past and quarterback of the future but not the quarterback of the present, Mike Glennon, was drawing all the interest.
In a firm yet friendly tone, Licht shot down any thought of the Bucs shipping out their backup quarterback.
“Mike Glennon is on this football team,” Licht said.
Yet in the same conversation, Licht noted how the Bucs need players and will be surfing the waiver wire in the next day or so like a horny rock star scopes Hooters Calendar girls in those perfect, fetching orange shorts.
This is what Joe just doesn’t get. This team needs bodies up and down the lineup, yet the club is willing to keep a guy that it hopes never, ever sees the playing field?
Why? Glennon could bring in a poker chip (draft pick) that Licht could use either to draft a defensive end next year, or as part of a package deal to trade up for Joey Bosa.
Look, Tampa Bay is not a playoff team. And even if it were, its season is screwed if America’s Quarterback, Bucs signal-caller Jameis Winston, goes down; just like every team is screwed if the starting quarterback goes down.
The Bucs, 2-14, do not have the luxury of keeping a guy on the bench (forever?) if he can bring in a decent player or players.
September 4th, 2015 at 10:07 am
Patience Joe…..Patience……Glennon will be worth more later in the season when a couple of starters go down….
September 4th, 2015 at 10:24 am
I don’t understand why Joe hates Mike Glennonso much!
You want to gt ride of him by any means!
Did/Does he date your wife ?
September 4th, 2015 at 10:27 am
Sounds like he’s channeling Belichick with that line.
September 4th, 2015 at 10:30 am
Classic coach-speak, which is to be expected as you never want to give any other team the upper hand.
“Mike Glennon is on this football team.”
Factually correct. Mike Glennon is on this football team. Today. Tomorrow? A week, month, year later? That still remains to be seen.
September 4th, 2015 at 10:32 am
This is what Joe just doesn’t get. This team needs bodies up and down the lineup
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Go big or go home trade GMC. He’ll provide the best bang for the bucs.
September 4th, 2015 at 10:34 am
Thought Kasheem Greene would make it after that 98 yd. pick 6 last night. Apparently not, as he and Larry Dean both have been cut. Guess it means our LB corp is that good.
September 4th, 2015 at 10:39 am
just like every team is screwed if the starting quarterback goes down.
That’s simply untrue! Does the name Earl Morrall ring a bell…saved Super Bowl season.
How many young QB’s have been discovered when a starter went down and all of the sudden the backup gets his chance and proves his worth.
I saw N.O. last night with Luke McCown tossing the football. Cmon MG8 is one of the best backups in the league and a borderline starter on some teams
Perhaps where I’m different is I freaking want to WIN!!! I’m willing to jeopardize those wins by starting a rookie with franchise potential…that’s it for me though.
Joe and some guys here are playoffs or bust! Not me! I want ALL the W’s we can get!!!
I think we have 8-8 talent with Koetter and MG8…if Fameis stays healthy and we get some breaks, no serious injuries etc, a bounce here or there we can win 10. People seem to think the Bucs are the ONLY team with issues. EVERY team in this league faces issues…even the vaunted Seahawks are worried about their OL.
If Fameis goes down I don’t won’t to be hoping that things work out.
I’d rather have MG8 save us with 6-8 wins than just totally trash the season with some 5 million dollar joke like Josh McCown or Jason Campbell.
All of you who want to simply dump MG8 for a 3rd rounder should check out 3rd round draft picks. For the Bucs that’s pretty mediocre to pathetic. MG8 is a KNOWN quantity.
I do NOT want to go 2-14 again if Fameis gets hurt in the first few games!!!
I do NOT want to go 4-12…MG8 and Koetter could easily save an 8 win season if our D is what we hope it is and this kicker can duplicate last night!!!
It’s not just about the playoffs..it’s about freaking W’s…6 wins are a lot better than 2…and 8 is the minimum we should expect even IF Fameis goes down…IF we have MG8 coming off the bench.
September 4th, 2015 at 10:47 am
We need a capable backup should Jameis go down. There aren’t any of those lying around, so we should settle for our very own check down throwing giraffe.
September 4th, 2015 at 10:49 am
Joe it is value proposition. He values a backup qb higher than you do. Let it go.
September 4th, 2015 at 10:53 am
Mike Glennon is clearly worth more to this team than a 6th round draft pick.
September 4th, 2015 at 10:53 am
How difficult is it to understand that all teams need a quality backup Joe? All of a sudden we need quality depth at every position EXCEPT the most important one? Seems to me that Brady got into a game after the starting QB went down as did Kurt Warner. I’m not implying Glennon is on that level but it shows the importance of a good backup. What good does it do to build the rest of the team and then have no one to step in if Winston goes down? It puzzles me how you just can’t seem to grasp this very basic concept.
September 4th, 2015 at 10:55 am
That second pick off MG looked weak, he could not see the defender in perfect position to make the pick? The Bucs QB’s may set a high mark for being picked off. Still a fan of MG, but both picks looked weak off the throw.
September 4th, 2015 at 10:57 am
I’d trade Glennon for RG III and a high draft pick (maybe a first rounder). Tampa can take a cap hit, Washington gets out of the issue with RG III and gets a capable backup, Tampa gets a great draft pick next year…..possibly top 5
September 4th, 2015 at 11:02 am
Until he isn’t.
September 4th, 2015 at 11:13 am
Cut Charles sims he can’t produce yards and he’s a huge liability in pass protection. You seen him get steamrolled in the end zone. Trade GMC for picks and oline man.
September 4th, 2015 at 11:18 am
Do you really think Glennon is worth a 1st?
No-one else on this planet does.
September 4th, 2015 at 11:29 am
LOL Glennon for a first rounder?!?!?! Get your Friday started a little early?
September 4th, 2015 at 11:31 am
A few of you got it right while others are still a bit confused… Maybe this will help all?!?! In order to claim a back up player is worth a darn you have to be willing to start him if your starter is not performing well… This is true of MG… It is also true of just about any back up QB in the NFL… So replacing a back up QB is a lot easier than you may think… Now, how do you get the most in a trade for a back up QB??? Convince everyone that your not willing to let him go come hell or high water… Than when a team comes looking for a starter they know its gonna take A LOT to get him… MG is awesome and deserves a chance to start no question… It just will never be for this team under the current circumstances!!! So really what we need to be doing is focusing on developing another back up for JW… Are third stringer looks the part… And if not part of a trade for MG will be for a back up… Mark my words… MG is part of this team………. Because he will bring in other valuable players…. End of story… No way we let him walk for free at any point… Joe knows this… He just likes storing the pot cause it makes for fun realistic drama… Which is why I love JoeBucsFan.com!!!!
September 4th, 2015 at 11:33 am
Get real Glennon Mob. Let the stats speak for themselves. If five yard passes can get wins then Glennon is the guy. He cannot complete passes over 15 yards let alone extend plays because of his lack of mobility.
September 4th, 2015 at 11:42 am
Joe has always hated Glennon, He has been trying to get him traded since the Bucs drafted him!!!! Most likely its because of star power and not drafted in the 1st round. ( Joe loves him some 1st round QB’s)
Just ask him how important it was for Jameis and McCown to get all the 1st reps in OTA’s and training camp, yet expects MG8 to be a pro-bowler coming off the bench and working with scrubs!!!!
September 4th, 2015 at 11:49 am
LOL Jab83…MG is awesome? Really, you think that he is awesome? Based on the Bucs actions this off-season, they do not share in your opinion. Glennon is a serviceable back up and could start for a team desperate for a QB. I like Glennon but to label him as awesome is laughable. Thanks for the humor.
September 4th, 2015 at 11:56 am
Hey Joe.
Quit stealing my idea of the Bucs trading Glennon with the hopes of trading up for Bosa. 🙂
September 4th, 2015 at 12:04 pm
Jim Palm Harbor Said:
“Get real Glennon Mob. Let the stats speak for themselves. If five yard passes can get wins then Glennon is the guy. He cannot complete passes over 15 yards let alone extend plays because of his lack of mobility.”
You need to check your facts before opening mouth and inserting foot. The “stats” do, indeed, speak for themselves. You just haven’t bothered to look them up. If you don’t know how to find football facts, try Advanced Football Analytics, and see where Glennon ranks for % pass atts. OVER 15 yds. for 2014.
September 4th, 2015 at 12:09 pm
Watching Jess Greenberg’s boobies bounce as she belts out classic rock tunes never gets old. Can’t say the same for Joe’s silly ongoing insistence that one of the best back up QBs in the league should be traded for a 3rd or 4th round draft pick. Next year it may make sense. This year? With no other decent QBs available to sign? No Way!!
September 4th, 2015 at 12:09 pm
It is essential to keep a more than capable backup when you have a rookie QB. Do you really want to see Lobato as the backup this year? My goodness.
September 4th, 2015 at 12:10 pm
The exaggerations against MG are worn thin as he can complete a pass anywhere on the field, that is his main strength. He has yet to QB behind a capable line, that might be his ticket out of can’t protect the QBville. So Licht is most likely covering the truth and an acceptable chess trade piece has yet to be offered. He wants at least a bishop while only being offered a pawn so far.
September 4th, 2015 at 12:10 pm
I fully agree Joe. Anyone that thinks the Bucs are going to the payoffs this season won’t agree with you however.
Then again we do have some fans on JBF that if the Bucs were to be at 2-9 and Winston goes down, they’d want Glennon in there. They want him in there so the Bucs could possibly finish 4-12 or 5-11 at that point. It makes no sense to me, but that’s just me. The same fan that by week 10 of last season was calling for the Bucs to start tanking for Jameis.
However I still say they need to keep Glennon for now, because what IF the Bucs start the season of 4-2 or 5-2 and Winston goes down. If they’re out of the playoff hunt during the season, then get whatever you can for him.
September 4th, 2015 at 12:14 pm
I always forget one thing or another.
If McClown is starting in Cleveland. Glennon will surely be worth a 2nd OR 3rd rounder and I fully believe that.
September 4th, 2015 at 12:21 pm
IF…we could trade Glennon to draft Bosa I’m on board.
Some other considerations that are being left out of this discussion.
Cap implications. MG8 costs us just under 700,000 in each of the next two years.
That’s a decent backup for less than a million for the next two years. What is McCown getting? Luke that is. What would Jason Campbell demand?
I maintain that even in a worst case scenario..we keep MG8 for the next two years and then lose him for nothing at the end of those two we still would have received tremendous value for that 3rd round pick.
Another consideration…experience in an offense..MG8 knows our organization and he has worked with Koetter since the beginning. What other QB brings that.
I heard one of the “experts” on BSPN or NFLNET talking about this subject and they felt Glennon actually had more value after this season. A team getting him then could work him in through all the off season and training camp. And they’ get a QB that cost them $675,000 that first year. They could try him and then decide whether to gamble the big bucks NFL QB’s..even the sorriest like Josh McCown are able to command.
RGIII Please spare me. He is the anti Jameis. Bad head on his shoulders, borderline uncoachable and a one trick pony. His body will never hold up for the skill set he brings and there’s just too much talk that he’s not really serious enough (again lets enjoy #3 who is serious) about football to be truly successful.
September 4th, 2015 at 12:23 pm
Glennon not worth first rounder alone, but taking on RGIII money plus Glennon might be… Redskins will have to pay to get rid of that expensive headache
September 4th, 2015 at 12:23 pm
Joe’s ‘thing’ is to trade Glennon for a future ‘potential’ player (otherwise known as a draft pick). I have nothing against trading a player to improve the team, but for Glennon, I would want a ‘current starting quality’ guard or tackle. The ‘experts’ are already talking about Donovan and Marpet taking a year to be ‘ready’. Do we really want to wait another year to see IF the draft pick can play?
September 4th, 2015 at 12:24 pm
I don’t want RG III, I want the first rounder…
September 4th, 2015 at 12:27 pm
RGIII?
His game is the antithesis of what Tampa is on offense. On top of that, I’m not convinced he will EVER return to the player he was as a rookie.
That’s the last kind of QB that I would want as a backup. Let’s say TB is going against a ferocious defense that knocks Jameis out of the game. You want to trot out ol Charmin’ knees?
September 4th, 2015 at 12:28 pm
@87
If you knew for certain keeping MG8 could save 6-8 wins if #3 goes down as opposed to Seth Lobato leading us to 4 wins would you still make the deal.
IE are you totally playoffs or nothing? I’m freaking desperate. 6 wins looks three times better to me than 2! I think this impact the entire team. Do we think starting a Seth Lobato or Jason Campbell knowing we have NO offense would impact the way the Defense feels?
I respect your belief that we’re not a playoff team even though I disagree. Most people agree with you and think I’m nucking futs. But seriously…you’d trade for a 3rd round pick…think Charles Sims…Sabby Piscatelli (actually a 2nd!) Mason Foster..MYRON LEWIS…Roy Miller…a 3rd round pick is NOT going to be a game changer or impact player “most” of the time. Their success rate in the NFL is less than 50% for any team not just the rotten drafting Bucs.
And so everybody understand…you’re willing to trade an KNOWN quantity who still has value to us for a 50-50 chance of getting an actual NFL player.
September 4th, 2015 at 12:35 pm
@Joe
Great music choice!!! I’m with Licht on AC/DC. I saw the Bily Joel/Elton John concert at the Forum a few years back. Brian Johnson who spends tons of time, used to live there, perhaps still does in Sarasota joined Billy Joel on stage.
The two of them rocked out a version of Highway to Hell that truly stole the entire show. Just awesome.
And then they stole the Grammy’s with that opening of Highway to Hell and Angus strutting the stage…the crowd of jaded professionals in the audience just had to give up.
Whether you like Licht’s player moves…I gotta like his taste in music. 🙂
September 4th, 2015 at 12:42 pm
Are you really saying this can’t be a playoff team? Just look at the division we were 2-14 last year and were still in the division hunt in what week 12? Also, we improved from last year where the other teams seemed to have gotten worse or stayed whey they are at. Bucs have a legitimate shot at winning the division.
September 4th, 2015 at 1:09 pm
…and if palm trees and sand were wings and beer, we’d all be in paradise!
September 4th, 2015 at 1:53 pm
Would I trade Glennon THIS YEAR for a draft pick, at this point? Probably not.
But if a team comes at us with a potential starter on the offensive line or a solid DE, then we absolutely have to pull the trigger.
Anyway you spin it, a starting OL or DE is far more valuable to us right now than a backup QB.
Next year, when Glennon is on the last year of his contract is when I would again start to entertain accepting draft picks for him. I find it unlikely that Glennon would resign with us and accept the backup role at this stage in his career, although it wouldn’t surprise me, as one of my biggest knocks on Glennon is his lack of fire.
September 4th, 2015 at 1:54 pm
What’s the big deal? It’s not like JW3 has ever been injured or something. He probably has the strongest ankles in the entire NFL.
tickrdr
September 4th, 2015 at 2:03 pm
Glennon needs to get into some off-field trouble or go to rehab to earn Joe’s respect.
Don’t forget……
Joe knows QBs!
September 4th, 2015 at 3:04 pm
DooshLaRue, Yep I forgot. Can’t even remember what I forgot, except Joe knows QBs, they line up behind the center and accumulate boatloads of blathering from sources.
September 4th, 2015 at 3:10 pm
@tickdr
That’s funny. Have you turned your snark font off yet?
Celly
Where you been? Missed your detailed rebuttals. Please tell me you’re not working that hard or you’ll make an old retired dude feel guillty,
September 4th, 2015 at 3:15 pm
Earl Morral isn’t the only back-up to win a Super Bowl. It’s been done numerous times. Just off the top of my head, Jim Plunkett wasn’t the opening day starter for the Raiders in 83, nor was Doug WIlliams for the Redskins in 87, Jeff Hostetler for the Giants in 90, nor Kurt Warner the intended starter for the Rams in 99, Dilfer for the Ravens in 00, nor was Tom Brady for the Pats in 01. It’s been done a ton of times and I’m sure it’s been done even more than that as I am just going by memory. Not saying Glennon is going to win a Super Bowl, just saying that back-ups ARE often very successful for their teams.
September 4th, 2015 at 3:37 pm
@Brandon
There are also those cases where too much faith was put into a backup. Shaun King comes to mind and hits close to home.
September 4th, 2015 at 4:10 pm
So when Jameis gets hurt due to weak ankles you are going to throw the season every year? I’m curious as to why Jameis gets a pass for oline play, but Glennon didn’t.
September 4th, 2015 at 4:32 pm
Skyline…for one Glennon’s line was much better in 2013 compared to what Lovie currently has to day.
For two everyone’s making too much out of this ankle thingy…
September 4th, 2015 at 4:46 pm
’87 – apparently you forgot how horrible the 2013 Bucs OLine was. I’m pretty sure that this year’s Oline will be statistically better than the 2013 OLine was.
September 4th, 2015 at 4:54 pm
Pickgrin…Glennon certainly wasn’t running for his life on every play like Winston was last Saturday.
September 4th, 2015 at 5:35 pm
StPeteBucsFan -Old retired dude relax, there’s a serious upside to old age – it doesn’t last long. Sort of like a Bucs win streak longer than 1.
September 4th, 2015 at 6:03 pm
yeah…i think we could easily get a 2nd rounder for him next season
September 4th, 2015 at 7:40 pm
So what if bucs get off to a good start and Winston’s tricky ankle acts up and he’s out. Bucs supposed to start lobato or some garbage off ste street? Buc fans supposed to show up to the games and pay all that money for an automatic loss. Mg trade makes more sense at the end of the year. This rationale of hoping for next years draft if jw goes down sux too. These high draft picks end up bust all the time ie Barron Adams (hoping not Winston). Wait til end of the year to trade mg won’t lose any value. I wanna enjoy more than 2 Sundays this year. I don’t care about a 4th rd pick next year at this point.
September 5th, 2015 at 1:27 am
This is called establishing the baseline value.
Glennon will probably be starting some games for us this season – and about the time most of you decide he sucks…because you won’t understand that it’s his lack of an offensive line…he will be trade fodder.
…but don’t get too excited, if he’s not good enough to beat the rookie out here (and since they spent the #1 overall on a QB, it means the powers that be don’t think Glennon’s good enough). They’ll measure his post-season trade value against his pre-season trade value – and if THAT’S enough – maybe they’ll get a 2nd or 3rd round pick they can spend on a REAL Guard.
…if it’s NOT enough…then you’re looking at a career quality back-up.
The trick will be to somehow keep both QB’s off IR this season until something like that actually happens.