Everybody Put Your Hands Up
September 16th, 2015
Yesterday, Lavonte David identified one problem with the Bucs’ defense.
And it wasn’t their mental collapse with 59 1/2 minutes to play.
David joined the Ron and Ian show on WDAE-AM 620 yesterday and tipped his cap to Titans quarterback Marcus Mariota, but said the Bucs were to blame, as well.
Fundamentals bit them in the butt.
“We gotta do a better job on our behalf of, you know, getting our hands up, things like that, disrupting the ball, getting in the throwing lanes better,” David said.
What’s most troubling about the mistakes David identified is the Bucs are rolling with a hand-picked, Lovie Smith crew of veterans, minus rookie Kwon Alexander. And it was Alexander who had a pass breakup by jumping a throwing lane in the first quarter. He got his left hand on a hot pass and almost pulled it in.
Collectively, it’s a not a Bucs defense that should be struggling with basics.
September 16th, 2015 at 9:53 am
The Buc defenders have to remind themselves to get into throwing lanes and attempt to break up passes at the line? OK then.
September 16th, 2015 at 9:54 am
still stunned LVD said what he said.
September 16th, 2015 at 9:57 am
Don’t worry Joe!!! Lovie will coach that out of Kwon Alexander!!!!!!
September 16th, 2015 at 10:03 am
Getting in throwing lanes and putting your hands up is hard to coach up. Shouldn’t coaches be drilling that in their thick skulls during the game?
Anybody else at the game notice Lovie walks down the sidelines, away from players when they come off the field? He never seems to talk to anybody. I don’t see any other coach in the league doing that.
September 16th, 2015 at 10:09 am
They didn’t tackle for SH*T either
September 16th, 2015 at 10:15 am
BAD HEAD COACH…”simple as that”…
September 16th, 2015 at 10:18 am
Had our defense not screwed the pooch, theres no way the offense has as crummy a game. Gonna stay positive…a win at the superdome erases last week in my mind…
September 16th, 2015 at 10:19 am
Just wait on it.
September 16th, 2015 at 10:23 am
LVD is still in shock because he knows it will get worse next week against Brees. NO may score 42 by half, in route to a 56-21 win over Bucs.
Week 3 they may have a small chance to keep Texans under 35 pts.
0-5 into the BYE week and Lovie will be fired.
September 16th, 2015 at 10:25 am
What is ridiculous is if you can’t get the QB aren’t you automatically throwing your hands up – sorry thats what I was coached to do since pop warner
September 16th, 2015 at 10:26 am
@mjc
Don’t count on Lovie being fired during the season. The Glazers don’t react that way. If they did, Schiano would’ve been gone by week 8 of 2013. I wish they would react, so I hope you’re right. Just doubt it.
September 16th, 2015 at 10:41 am
Stop giving them extra yards by trying to strip the ball. Wrap him up and tackle. You know what’s just as good as a turn over? Making them punt.
September 16th, 2015 at 10:43 am
This is so lame…
Brees and Payton are licking their freaking chops right now.
Rob Ryan’s defense will look “all world” against the Sucs’ offense.
I smell another 40 burger cooking on the grill!
#15weekstilltheoffseason
#cantwait
Go Sucs!
September 16th, 2015 at 10:44 am
Malloy is dead on!
September 16th, 2015 at 10:51 am
This comment is related directly to the lack of confidence in Lovie’s antiquated system and schemes. He’s been running the same defense since he lost the Superbowl with Chicago. Same flaws, same holes, every O-coordinator in the league laughs their asses off when they play the Bucs. Lovie is a Chump and must be fired. Dirk K. to be the new head coach and we go find a D-coordinator that is willing to adapt his scheme to the players on the team. Imagine that. I’m getting wood just thinking about it.
September 16th, 2015 at 10:55 am
LOL, it seems everyone is in denial of how we got beat, and are failing to admit Marcus Mariota’s part in it.
He froze our linebackers, not only because of their respect of his great speed, but because of his amazing play action passing skills.
I can’t remember any QB setting up, and throwing faster, with deadly accuracy, then Mariota.
Yes, Jameis had an awful day, and this is hard for me to say, because I love my Bucs. I had a house full of die hard Buc’s Fans over, watching the game, and I was not the first or only one to say that we really screwed up by not taking Mariota.
September 16th, 2015 at 11:08 am
I want everyone to go back and watch the TD pass from the one yard line (I believe it was to Harry Douglas, but I could be mistaken). The WR ran 2 yards into the end zone, stopped, put his hand up, and received the ball. There were 3 defenders in the general vicinity, but none made any sort of play on the ball. If I didn’t know any better, I’d swear they were in a soft zone – AT THE FREAKING ONE YARD LINE!!!!!!. I’m not even joking when I say I could have made that throw.
September 16th, 2015 at 11:11 am
@Chris@AppleRoofCleaning,
I’m not taking away anything from Mariota. He did what he had to do. But every single throw he made are throws every single college QB could make. He was only hit 2 times, which were both sacks. Nobody on the defensive line so much as put their hands up. He didn’t make a throw over 14 yards in the air! Yes, we got sucked in by his play action fakes, but if you were watching, that’s what happened to us all last year. Why do you think Mason Foster isn’t here anymore? Mariota never went to his second read. Not once. So no, I’m not going to say it was him, because it was us. We would have been beaten by Josh Freeman on Sunday. We may have been beaten by you or I at QB. That’s how bad it was.
September 16th, 2015 at 11:29 am
If David & McCoy are actual leaders, why did the team quit after 1 minute of play?
My gut is telling me this team is toxic.
September 16th, 2015 at 11:30 am
@Hawaiian Buc
One thing we agree on is we did not defend the pass very well. I honestly think Blitzin Bill Sheridan (remember him) would have done a much better job defending against the Oregon Offense that Tennessee ran on us successfully.
September 16th, 2015 at 11:33 am
Why are we discussing fundamentals in week 1 – much less on the defensive side of the ball with a Defensive minded coach.
I remember watching our old Bucs defenses and kidding with my friends that the Bucs play a 4 – 0 – 7. The linebackers played so far off the ball – the outside linebackers jumped slants routes, the middle linebacker turned and ran down the deep middle of the field. In this defense the linebackers *should never jump on the Play action fake. We want them to hand the ball off…they have the speed to limit the damage.
They forced the other team to check down in the flat, or the shallow middle..at times very shallow crossing routes are available if the pass rush is not there or the other team opts to go to a 3 step drop. Also, deep middle could be open if the middle linebacker didn’t get deep enough or the QB had to much time. You could run middle but not outside…
The idea is to dare the other team to be patient and run 12+ play drives…gambling the other team won’t convert every 3rd down, they will force the ball into coverage for a turnover, or fumble with one of those check downs…
You absolutely have to have a pass rush for this defense to work. I’m not talking about sacks – just pressure – move the QB off of his mark. In the new NFL your safeties have to be ball hawks not big hitters. So we will soon see how they adjust GO BUCS!
September 16th, 2015 at 11:40 am
If Lovie just had a DT drop back 5 yards after the snap we could have probably had 2-3 interceptions on Mr Perfect God QB throwing to his first read. Or a LB just destroy that area of the field. It was the most obvious soft spot and never was corrected.
September 16th, 2015 at 11:41 am
They won’t do it, but they need to sit a few under-performing starters for a series or so to end the soft and sloppy play. Demonstrate the path to the bench is poor performance and hustle and the path to the field is good hustle and performance.
September 16th, 2015 at 11:42 am
“I want everyone to go back and watch the TD pass from the one yard line (I believe it was to Harry Douglas, but I could be mistaken). The WR ran 2 yards into the end zone, stopped, put his hand up, and received the ball. There were 3 defenders in the general vicinity, but none made any sort of play on the ball. If I didn’t know any better, I’d swear they were in a soft zone – AT THE FREAKING ONE YARD LINE!!!!!!. I’m not even joking when I say I could have made that throw.”
Fans like Brian Bucs would just have you believe that was the genius of Mariota and not one of the easier passes anyone could have to make.
If you saw that on the Douglas play then that makes 2 times in that game where Mariota’s f*cking receiver was so open in the end zone they were waving their hand. Because the same thing happened on the Delanie Walker TD.
These weren’t even plays where he was running around extending time and the guy got open. This was like 2-3 seconds into the play. It was absolutely insane how bad the defense was
September 16th, 2015 at 12:04 pm
Collectively, it’s a not a Bucs defense that should be struggling with basics.
Speakings DIRECTLY to coaching…or lack thereof! The only one on this entire staff that should get ANY type of pass is Koetter (only because of his short tenure). The rest have been here and THIS is the best they can come up with???
September 16th, 2015 at 1:42 pm
@Hawaiian Buc
Guess you really believe what you said. Keep downplaying Mariota’s natural talents.
His 4th TD was NOT his 1st read. He didn’t like his 1st read and immediately found a wide-open receiver in the endzone. Throwing was the easy part. Switching to the receiver in split second was NOT!
How about the 1st TD? His perfect fake fooled the cameraman, the commentor, almost all of the audience, and most of the defenders. The LB kept his position. He only hesitated for split second, which was all Mariota needed to throw over him to the wide-open Wright. Does it really matter if it was his 1st read? He successfully gave his 1st read the best chance to go far.
How about the 2nd TD? He was pushed out of pocket, facing a crushing defender, keeping his eyes down the field, and delivering a perfect throw to his RB.
How about the 3rd TD? He threw into an extremely tight window, which closed IMMEDIATELY after the ball was in the receiver’s hands.
September 16th, 2015 at 2:21 pm
a bunch of negative people in this site goin to pewtereprt.com instead
September 16th, 2015 at 3:06 pm
@WrongGuy
Did you watch the game on TV because I saw exactly what you just posted. And the announcers did not hesitate like JBF posters to give the same credit you just gave MM. Maybe it looked different in person.
September 16th, 2015 at 3:21 pm
@StPeteBucsFan
I watched the game on TV. His fake fooled me — Wright was already running with the ball in his hands when I found the ball again.
September 16th, 2015 at 6:10 pm
@StPeteBucsFan
I think MM hesitated a bit on his 4th TD throw. He usually trusts his quick decisions. I guess he simply couldn’t believe his eyes that his teammate was open for so long.
I have watched some of his college games. I think he went through his reads very quickly and delivered confidently as soon as he saw what he liked. Except for some designed runs, he used his legs mostly to extend plays to find open receivers. He usually only ran as a last resort.
He tried to take good care of ball. When his internal clock expired and he found nowhere to throw or run, he dumped the ball. I have seen many times he underestimated his play-extending ability, dumped the ball, and found one of his teammates was finally open. JW was totally opposite, I guess.
September 16th, 2015 at 7:47 pm
Anyone ever consider that the reason so many of Mariota’s receivers were so wide open is because of Mariota himself ?
His ball handling skills on the play action pass are exceptional, as are how fast he sets up, and gets the ball out with deadly accuracy.
Scared to death that they would taste Mariota’s well known 4.4 speed, he froze our defenders, who always had to worry about him taking off and running.