“16 Times”
September 17th, 2015
Leslie Frazier seemed stunned by the Bucs-Titans stat sheet
Nearly always mellow Leslie Frazier seemed in a rare state of disbelief when it came to the one aspect of the Bucs-Titans stat sheet.
Speaking to a crew of media at One Buc Palace today, the Tampa Bay defensive coordinator was amazed by how little Marcus Mariota had to work at throwing the football.
“We think we have some guys who can rush the passer. When you don’t stop the run, you get what we got on Sunday. I mean, their quarterback threw the ball 16 times, 16 times,” Frazier emphasized.
“That’s not the ingredient for success the way we’re set up. So we’ve got to do a much better job against the run. I mentioned to our players this morning; The New Orleans Saints, they’re going to feel about running the football. So we better figure out a way to get this fixed.”
Yes, the Bucs got carved up steadily in the run game, and that led to Mariota needing so few throws. Heck, he was pulled after three quarters with the game out of reach.
On the shoddy run defense, Frazier added, “everything else will fall into place when we get that addressed.”
For those wondering, or for those who have blocked the memory, Mariota finished 13-of-16, for 209 yards and four touchdowns.
Not a bad day’s work. The Bucs sure have to get their pass-defense house in order, too.
September 17th, 2015 at 2:19 pm
Buc com has a vid of GMC mic’ up for the game. Here’s a preview:
http://youtu.be/4fbkrXnxS6A
September 17th, 2015 at 2:21 pm
If Frazier is saying he expects the Saints to focus on the run, he is SCREWED in the head.
Brees needs 3 more touchdowns to make the record books. He’s chomping at the bit for this game.
So if Frazier is preparing the defense against the run…look for us to be picked apart again. And yes…he is the one handling the defense. Lovie is only calling plays.
September 17th, 2015 at 2:32 pm
Did we find Lovie in a basement.
Nothing like a bargain basement Coach.
I kill me hahahaha
September 17th, 2015 at 2:38 pm
Are you kidding me? Drew Brees just watched a rookie throw a perfect game against us and you don’t think he is planning on throwing the ball?
We are in deeper trouble than I realized.
September 17th, 2015 at 2:41 pm
Bonzai- can see you contorting your arguments in any way possible to deflect any and all blame from Incompetent Lovie Smith.
September 17th, 2015 at 2:46 pm
Ya know who else contorts his bankrupt arguments to deflect any and all responsibility for the embarrassing performance on Sunday is none other than that geriatric bag of hot poopy air stinking up the Bay Area airwaves in the afternoon.
September 17th, 2015 at 2:50 pm
On the shoddy run defense, Frazier added, “everything else will fall into place when we get that addressed.”
Ha ha ha ha ha these coaches are effing hilarious.
Everything will fall into place then?
That’s the missing link? The missing ingredient?
Ha ha ha ha ha these coaches are effing hilarious.
September 17th, 2015 at 3:06 pm
We suck….again saints-38 bucs-17
September 17th, 2015 at 3:07 pm
Stuff the run and smash b.Cooks!!!!!
September 17th, 2015 at 3:15 pm
@DallasBuc
I can see you refusing to use common sense and brain power…so I have not cornered the market.
September 17th, 2015 at 3:21 pm
So the Defensive minded Head Coach who took over play calling from our defensive coordinator doesn’t run his own defense just calls the plays? What does Lovie do then? When did he become this mastermind HC with the offense or special teams?
Seriously between the Lovie apologists and the fans who are the I told you so about Mariota are getting ridiculous (Mind you this is coming from someone on here who said MULTIPLE times I’d prefer Mariota over Winston).. To judge someone after ONE MEANINGFUL game is absolutely moronic and probably the same people who judged Manziel after his handful of plays he had last season.
September 17th, 2015 at 3:21 pm
Bonzai- my track record in regards to this stinkhole of a football team and Incompetent Lovie Smith has been spot on for the last 18 months. Perhaps it isn’t my common sense that should be in question here. I know it hurts pal but just because the BD says it doesn’t make it so.
September 17th, 2015 at 3:22 pm
Pretty sure Frazier means if they can shore up the run defense they will make the Saints one dimensional which would make the other things ON DEFENSE fall into place.. Unless you think the defensive coordinator is all of the sudden speaking like he’s the head coach..
September 17th, 2015 at 3:30 pm
Purely out of boredom….I feel the urge to support Lovie.
It seems that there is nearly a 100% lack of support for our coach.
Even I have lost confidence…..but, as long as he’s there….I hope he turns things around and wins….starting Sunday!!!
September 17th, 2015 at 3:42 pm
Nice work Gerold McCoy!!!
Way to earn that $100 million dollars…
September 17th, 2015 at 3:58 pm
The Titans offense did exactly what I said our offense need to do, in order to win. I have always said that we need to pound the rock, then hit them with some quick strikes and let the receiver run for yards. The pick 6 that Jameis threw, the pass was intended for Adam Humphries. But it’s 3rd and 3 and my question is, why Humphries is even in the game?. We should have had ASJ, Brandon Myers, Vincent Jackson, Luke Stocker, Doug Martin in the game. We got nothing from Dirk Koetter and Lovie Smith, the play calling was horrible on both sides of the ball. 4th and 1 we run Doug Martin, why not go to our power game 3 TEs, Fullback, WR. Jameis could have push the pile for a 1st down, why hand the ball off to Martin in the backfield?. I’m convinced that Dirk Koetter is confuse and can’t manage the personnel that he have. He’s still trying to stick with his vertical pass happy offense. It won’t work in Tampa like it did in Atlanta, we don’t have a Matt Ryan, Roddy White, Julio Jones, Harry Douglas, Delvin Hester, Antone Smith, Tony Gonzalez. He need to make adjustments for the players that we have on offense, and he’s struggling to do it. It seems like when Mike Evans was inactive, he would have went to a 3 TE set.
September 17th, 2015 at 4:12 pm
Not one pass that went over 14 yards. 120 yards after the catch. Pretty dang insanely bad stats for a defense to have.
Doesn’t get much easier than:
-50 yard TD after a 7 yard completion over the middle on 1st read right after snap
-Short TD where Delanie Walker is literally waving in the end zone open and about 7 yards from QB and where he was looking from start of snap
-TD to Sankey as 1st read option after rollout 7 yards in front of QB with absolutely no defenders between them or around Sankey
Like seriously not sure wtf gets easier than that. The 3rd down throw to Walker was solid but was also due to a huge hole in the field.
Meanwhile Winston’s first pass is designed to go to Adam Humphries of all people and he runs his route wrong and boom pick 6. By the time he’s attempting his 3rd pass its 21-0 and the defense has every possible piece of momentum and knows the pass is coming.
September 17th, 2015 at 4:29 pm
I’ve searched high and low for a quarter by quarter stat sheet on the game. I can only find the entire game.
But I remember early in the contest being impressed by how much we were outrushing the Titans. And that doesn’t even consider what we would have had on the ground without a couple of stupid penalties. 21-0 after 1Q totally perverted the rest of the stats as we were forced to pass and the Titans turned almost exclusively to the run.
But Doug Martin ran for 5-14-14-3 on four consecutive plays that set up the first TD pass.
Our line did a decent job run blocking.
18 months Dallas. Then I’m sure you pointed out that Lovie’s defense would pick Drew Brees three times and MG8 would totally outplay Drew Brees…actually I feel certain you did crow when Lovie’s defense failed to protect the lead and we lost in OT.
September 17th, 2015 at 4:29 pm
Posted this in one of the earlier articles. I’m really interested to see what others opinions are on th11is. Bucit88 mentioned it also in the same thread. Please tell me WHY????SOMEONE!
I keep asking this question. I would really like to know. Is it something to do with the Tampa two??? Why do our corners always play 5 to 10 yards off of theyre receivers? The league only grants defenders 5 yards of contact before its hands off. It seems like common sense to me especially with the zone defense to have your corners press and play more physical. That alone would help. We havent done it as long as I can remember in seasons past either. Someone please clue me in on why this is!!!???
September 17th, 2015 at 4:36 pm
StPete- I’m not sure what you are trying to point out but yes I saw that game. It was the last game we looked halfway competetive it thanks to Glennon and Lansanah. Another complete fold by the Bucs D at the end of the game. Seen that so many times over the last 7 years it’s heartbreaking.
September 17th, 2015 at 4:46 pm
@Kevin:
Excellent question, but it could be because:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4jGSvxCRp4
tickrdr
September 17th, 2015 at 4:51 pm
Our record will be 1 – 15 this year folks, the only team we will beat is the Jaguars i guarantee it
September 17th, 2015 at 5:27 pm
If you play ‘press’ with the corners, you better have an awfully good pass rush. Otherwise, your corners are going to be chasing the receivers all the way to the endzone.
September 17th, 2015 at 5:55 pm
@Hawk
I’m not saying play man coverage. I’m just saying even when playing zone wouldn’t it still be beneficial to jam the receivers at the line. The league only give defenders 5 yards of contact allowed. We NEVER take advantage of those five yards. It seems to me that would give the defense to throw the receivers off of they’re timing and rhythm on those slant routes that we always get burned on….and also would give our safeties a split second extra of time to react to whether or not it’s a run or a pass.
Did our corners EVER do this back in the glory days under Dungy an Gruden?
I know one thing we haven’t laid a finger on a receiver in years and it’s not working.
September 17th, 2015 at 6:10 pm
@Dallas
I’ve conceded your point that Lovie is past his prime and needs to go.
My point was that two weeks after the embarrassment in Atlanta we were not only competitive in N.O. we had to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
If we overcame Lovie’s ineptitude then..until the 4th Q at least…we at least have a shot this week.
I’ve never been a member of the MGM, but I do believe MG could play at Trent Dilfer levels and a good defense and OL means we could win with him. He’s not Fameis but he actually gave us a great chance to have a two game win streak on the road against two good teams.
And yes your main man Lovie somehow figured that a young QB who had just flashed all that potential needed to get benched in favor of a journeyman hack who has lost two games for every one he won. Of all the Lovie boneheaded decisions that is the one the just confounds me.
September 17th, 2015 at 6:31 pm
It was McCoy’s fault!! He’s only ranked #37 on the D-linemen list for the NFL with 3 tackles and 1 sack and Suh…uh….1 tackle, 1 assist, no sacks. He’s so soft! Miami needs to trade him now!! I watched that game and Suh was a non factor the entire game. DB55 which I’m sure stands for ‘douche bag’ you are so clueless it’s beyond silly. You should follow ice skating or something.
September 17th, 2015 at 6:46 pm
@ Kevin
Playing press coverage with the corners while playing zone would distort the ‘zones’. I do not believe the Bucs have the talent at safety to compensate. Remember, regardless of whether you ‘bump’, the safeties still have to wait to see if it is pass or run. The bump might put the receiver a step or two short of where he wants to be, but he will get separation from the corner almost immediately, since the corner is facing the wrong direction and has his feet spread in such a way as to bump the receiver without getting knocked down. He also has no idea which way the receiver is going to go after the bump. The receiver will likely go the opposite direction from the way the corners’ hips are turned… hence immediate separation.
But as you said, at this point, it may not hurt to try it.
September 17th, 2015 at 7:27 pm
Verner had success in Tennessee playing physical with the corners and Jonathan Banks has the size and strength the match up with many receivers. I would just like to see that incorporated into the defense. Regardless no defense is going to be effective without a pass rush…but it seems to me like pass catchers are just spoon fed when playing us. Something has to change. I would LOVE for that to be asked at a press conference. Although Lovie would just say “We try to put our players in the best position to succeed every week….simple as that”
September 17th, 2015 at 8:28 pm
Knew the OLine needed help.
Surprised by the DLine.
The other big surprise was VERNER at CB.
He was awful. Burned a bunch.
September 17th, 2015 at 10:55 pm
LORD CORNELIUS SMARTEST THING IVE READ ALL WEEK. THANKS FOR THAT BTEATH OF FRESHNESS. FINALLY!
September 18th, 2015 at 2:03 am
” When you’re going against 2-man coverage, one receiver usually has a two-way go so he can go in or go out. The guy didn’t run a very good route, [but it’s] still the quarterback’s job to cut our losses. So the first interception, bad decision. ”
Hmmmmm. Great pre-snap read and then a player doesn’t win/execute and JDubb throws to him anyway…
Anyone watch Jon Gruden’s QB camp with JDub. Same thing he always does.
Winston will make a great coach one day. He will be another Jimbo Fisher QB in the NFL.
September 18th, 2015 at 8:47 am
Jesus Christ: I as calling for Frazier to take Lovie’s spot as DC if Lovie got fired when the Bucs go 0-5 into the bye week…. Not if people but when: Sunday made me believe one thing: that Lovie is not a competent coach…. Now I have one more question to everyone: “How long do we let the gentleman disgrace himself by losing game after game as the Tampa bay Buccaneer Head Coach when it obvious he is incompetent?” How many more losses like the Titan game? How many winnable games vs the Saints (twice), Bengals, Vikes, rams, etc….. The coach has no regard for others else he would have won a ****ing home game…. Lets cut bait and run y’alll: Lovie has to go unless this team beats some one y the bye week and perhaps 2 wins….. Right now I’d favor the Jags over Tampa if Lovie was coach and give the Bucs the edge if anyone else was running this train wreck!
September 18th, 2015 at 10:31 am
Lovie is one of the 3 luckiest men alive…..Ringo Starr, and Art Garfunkel are the other 2. None of them are that talented, they were in the right place at the right time….He was hired at the right time in Chicago and had some good-luck. Those teams won but they weren’t anything special. He walked into a decent opportunity. He is in a completely different situation now. This team needed someone who has the ability to coach up and create a difference. His ineptitude in on display. Ever hear of the “Peter Principal” or “Illusory Superiority?”….Look it up..