Time For Milk Cartons To Emerge
August 17th, 2015
It’s time for reserve tackle Kevin Pamphile to show up.
Last year, the Bucs drafted Kevin Pamphile and Kadeem Edwards in the fifth-round. Joe dubbed them the “Milk Cartons,” as their faces may as well have been on a half-gallon containers at Publix.
They were MIA on the football field for a team desperate for offensive line help.
This may have been a bit harsh. Edwards missed most of the season injured. But if you can remember any meaningful play or block that Pamphile was involved in, please alert Joe.
Meanwhile, the Patriots and Packers each had rookie offensive linemen starting for them in the playoffs and both were fifth round picks, as well (again, to be fair, Patriots center Bryan Stork was selected before the Milk Cartons).
Saturday’s knee injury to Demar Dotson really puts the Bucs in a pickle. Dotson, not to be confused with Dan Dierdorf, was their most dependable offensive lineman. Now, an already shaky offensive line could be worse. But as Dotson himself would say, “Next man up.”
That may be Pamphile. His name was the first to come out of Lovie Smith’s mouth yesterday when asked who could potentially fill the void left by Dotson.
In Joe’s eyes, it’s time for the Milk Cartons to come out of hiding. Can’t use the excuse they were late draft picks when two others from their same round — in the same year — started in the Super Bowl and NFC Championship game, respectively.
It is time for Pamphile to earn his keep. That is, unless Bucs fans are good with Patrick Omameh starting at right tackle.
August 17th, 2015 at 9:05 am
Next man up!!!!
@joe, speaking of milk cartons, Joe we need a suspend/banned section for commenters in the categories section. Just the user name and date they were suspend with duration of suspension!!!
August 17th, 2015 at 9:07 am
Omameh or Pamphile 🙁 …either way it’s bad…and 2 rookies already pegged to start…trying to be optimistic but this unit, has and could, drag the whole team down, AGAIN…wait for the waiver wire lol
August 17th, 2015 at 9:07 am
If Pamphile is that bad why is he still on the team? Why didn’t the Bucs bring in a dozen offensive lineman to workout during off season? This is ridiculous that a weakness that was known before the beginning of last years training camp is still a weakness now and hasn’t gotten any better. Why is Gilkey still on the roster as well? Other teams seem to at least put a line out there that can compete why we look the friggin keystone cops..
August 17th, 2015 at 9:18 am
Why no mention of Reid Fragel? We picked him up to play Right Tackle- and came in when Dotson was hurt
August 17th, 2015 at 9:29 am
yeah Fragel…hope he turns into Dan Dierdorf lol
August 17th, 2015 at 9:32 am
It seems to me that we may have a problem with priorities and evaluating talent when it comes to our Oline.
We got burnt with Collins but that doesn’t mean we can’t make an investment in another player.
Edwards and Pamphile are no longer rookies…but probably still need some development….we have too many that need development….Smith, Marpet, Pamphile, Edwards, Gilkey, Allen, Coughman, Everett & Warren….All of these are either rookies or 2nd year players.
August 17th, 2015 at 9:33 am
We need a gilkey replacement asap
August 17th, 2015 at 9:42 am
What would the Pouncey brothers cost us? Slide “Mongo” Market to his natural tackle position, then Lovie could pound the rock to his hearts desire. Just saying there are possibilities.
August 17th, 2015 at 9:51 am
You are axkin a lot of this guy man. Thank god we got rid of penn and Zuttah
Lovie the gm…….
August 17th, 2015 at 9:56 am
Our qb’s are going to get killed this year.
August 17th, 2015 at 9:59 am
There’s a 3rd “milk carton” and his name is Warhop. The way our line has performed the past year, its basically like there’s no oline coach.
August 17th, 2015 at 10:10 am
Love how you guys blame the coach when it’s Licht’s fault.
The Bucs will not sign a name player for the position, not when Dotson will return by week 7 at the latest. No…better to bring in a lot of rookies andvtry them out. We still have 3 weeks. Find a young guy that teams overlooked and maybe we won’t even need Dotson back.
Frankly, I thought Dotson sucked anyway. He gets beat too much.
August 17th, 2015 at 10:11 am
Is the oline problem one of personnel or of teaching/preparing
Or, Both?
August 17th, 2015 at 10:29 am
@Destinjohnny….Bingo!! dismantle the OL and start from scratch was ridiculous to begin with…still in the same boat this year…Penn and Zuttah would look some good on this unit…
August 17th, 2015 at 10:31 am
The best communication tool with Winston and the lineman on passing downs will be the old “heads up tool”> LOOK OUT!!!!
August 17th, 2015 at 10:43 am
We will see…..there are 31 teams that will have to cut down from 90 to 53….that’s 1147 players…..now granted, not all will be eligible for the waiver wire but most will…..surely there is an Olineman or two in that group…..
If we go through waivers without picking up any, something is dreadfully wrong….
August 17th, 2015 at 10:48 am
Gosder Cherilus skipped a meeting with another team to fly in to Tampa today to meet with the Bucs. Although he is 31 he has extensive starting time with other teams including the Colts and Lions. Licht HAS to pull the trigger and get this guy on our team. If anything hes probably better than any tackle we have now. Its time to step up Licht don’t throw Jameis to the wolves show Cherilus the money!!!!!!!!!!! The guy has started 37 consecutive games at RIGHT TACKLE bring him in PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
August 17th, 2015 at 10:59 am
Pretty sure drafting two guys in the second round qualifies as addressing a weakness.
August 17th, 2015 at 11:02 am
To give you a hint, Joe didn’t even know the guy was on the roster.
No, Joe doesn’t pay attention to third- or fourth-team players.
August 17th, 2015 at 11:06 am
Not sure where Marpet-should-play-tackle narrative started. Marpet doesn’t grade out as an NFL tackle. He’s a guard or a center.
Marpet is playing in the NFL now, he’s not playing Elmhurst College. A Division-III tackle does not equate to playing NFL tackle.
August 17th, 2015 at 11:13 am
Cherilus ended last season on IR…cut in July by Indy…this is what we hope for a replacement?
August 17th, 2015 at 11:16 am
How did the Oline look Saturday night? Take out Gillkey’s play which Joe addressed immediately after the game.
I felt like the two rookie OL played their positions about as well as Fameis played his. They showed some bright spots, some possibilities, and they showed that ALL THREE are rookies and played like rookies.
This could be disaster or the beginning of something truly special. Fameis and two potentially strong young OL come into the league together and grow together or they sink.
Fameis and the two young guys seem to be into their challenge big time and they all seem pretty smart. We’re going to have some growing pains but by the end of this season we could be special.
August 17th, 2015 at 11:18 am
No easy solution to this. Although there might be a veteran available at the final cuts, then it’s a last minute fill in again like Mankins last year..not a big plus to the chemistry theory of OL play
August 17th, 2015 at 11:35 am
I don’t like how were looking for the Cartons to already step up in preseason, for anything more that depth. The fact that were looking towards 2 rookies to start on the line and justifying it with “getting their snaps” is ridiculous and irresponsible if you’re the Bucs. If you have cap space and there is a vet u can go get that offers a better on-the-field product, you have to go get them!
August 17th, 2015 at 11:49 am
@Mike10
I absolutely agree….we are paying Koenen over $3 mil and we have cap space….it’s purely foolish not to pick up a proven Olineman and offer a 1 year contract to buy us some time…..but….it’s still early and we are flying one in today….so let’s see….
August 17th, 2015 at 12:31 pm
did anyone see McCoy get blown up at the goal line? not sure if him losing weight was a good thing..matt kalil blocked him 5 yards into the endzone…oline looked much improved from last year with decent pass pro and running lanes opening up for doug who looks quicker…pass rush was a major disappointment…Winston played like a rookie but I was impressed with some of his throws..cant wait until the 24th show I can see them in person..GO BUCS!!!
August 17th, 2015 at 12:47 pm
Bucco Bruce Cherilus had started 37 straight NFL games at Right Tackle. Tell me who we have had that has ever done that in the history of the Bucs???????
Players get cut all the time when they go on IR its just the nature of non guaranteed contracts. I say sign the man, if we had any decent depth then no but we have ZERO depth so pay the man the money and don’t let him leave Tampa Mr. Licht!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 17th, 2015 at 1:03 pm
First things first. Let’s see if Cherilus passes a physical.
August 17th, 2015 at 3:56 pm
I don’t know why they don’t give Edawn Coughman a chance to play.