Jameis Will Be “All Right”
August 16th, 2015
Bucs fans should relax about Jameis. Photo courtesy of Buccaneers.com.
There is no need to run to the Sunshine Skyway Bridge. The Bucs did not draft the reincarnation of Josh Freeman.
As Packers superstar quarterback and main squeeze of Olivia Munn, Aaron Rodgers, once told Packers fans after a loss, “RELAX.”
Why is Joe not freaking out?
First, it was the very first preseason game. How often has that fooled people once the regular season rolled around? Besides, Joe remembers the 0-16 Lions having a perfect 4-0 preseason.
Second, you want your quarterback to be tough in the clutch? That’s “America’s Quarterback,” Bucs signal-caller Jameis Winston. Just like he was his last year in college, Jameis may have started slow but when crunch time came, Jameis delivered.
This was not lost on Pat Yasinskas of ESPN, who, like Joe, made the trip to the Northlands to cover the game.
Winston was up and down as he finished with nine completions on 19 attempts for 131 yards and an interception. That’s been exactly how Winston has played all through training camp. He’s been hot one minute and cold the next.
“You pick up the game and you see how things are flying at you, you get into that mode of just playing football,” Winston said. “I’m getting better every single play.”
Winston’s performance showed he still has a long way to go to get ready for the start of the regular season. But, if he can make “typical Jameis Winston days” more consistent and productive in the remaining three preseason games, he’ll be all right.
That’s just it. One reason why Joe predicts six wins for the Bucs is because they are starting a rookie quarterback behind a shaky offensive line. What did people expect last night, Dan Marino?
(This just in: Dan Marino’s first regular season game saw him go 11-of-17 for 90 yards and two touchdowns. That’s not considerably better than Jameis in his first preseason game against a team that had already played a preseason game.)
Joe isn’t looking to shove his head in the oven.
August 16th, 2015 at 12:09 pm
“Silently….people inside the Bucs Organization are wondering….did we draft the wrong kid???”
– Long delivery —–Byron Leftwich
– Fumble snaps
– Inconsistent
You all remember “Dirk Kotter” wanted Mariota…..but obviously he was over-ruled by the head coach
Proof????
See preseason practice and game 1
No…..the sky isn’t falling
August 16th, 2015 at 12:11 pm
If we do not bring in every OT and DE that looks like possible upgrades off the waiver wire then we might as well stick our heads in ovens Also, we may still need to pull a trade since Dotson went down and none of the waiver wire players are likely to be starting caliber but more back up quality.. Winston played about how I expected. Unfortunately, so did the OL and DL. We allowed sacks, did not open up holes for the RB’s and the DL got no pressure on Viking QB’s. At least we are consistent. I am not hitting the panic button after week one of the preseason however, every preseason I hear how preseason does not matter and funny thing is, we look exactly the same when the regular season commences. With the 1st pick of the 2016 NFL draft the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select???
August 16th, 2015 at 12:13 pm
I really think after reading all these negative comments that it the 1st time watching preseason closely for lots of these fans. I can’t help but notice it’s many of the same people who have been completely against Jameis and/or Lovie all along. They do love the word ‘incompetent’ they must hear it often.
August 16th, 2015 at 12:16 pm
Problem is not the QB
Problem is a head coach who cares more for traditions and friendships than for thinking and scheming!
August 16th, 2015 at 12:18 pm
Anthem- Why is you’re 1st sentence in quotes. Please source. otherwise it’s just your uninformed opinion. I guess the same reason your ‘Koetter’ is misspelled and in quotes. Are you claiming Marcus M. had a better 1st game?
August 16th, 2015 at 12:19 pm
This performance was not a surprise. It wasn’t what we were hoping for, but the Vikes had already played one game and were much more experienced than the Bucs. The one thing we must look for is growth. Let’s look at next week’s game and see if we see improvement. If not….then we panic.
By the way, in an earlier post by Joe we saw a breakdown of a play the Bucs ran. If you tried to follow the receivers in Dirk’s play, it looked like 50 waterbugs going 50 different directions. That was exciting to see. You can’t cover all 5 targets and Dirk is going to throw that type of challenge at our opponants this year.
August 16th, 2015 at 12:23 pm
@Dean
The only issue with that is that no one pass protects, ( except the RB, as he chips then runs his route) It isolates the O-line. Hopefully during the regular season it will not be as predictable as Lovie’s defense!!!
But that is what Keotter did in Atlanta!!!
August 16th, 2015 at 12:23 pm
It’s just the same ol’ spit. We are hot garbage. Zero pass rush and an O–Line that’s now worse than before we took the field last night. One more thing stop comparing ASJ to a HOF TE. He looks like Tony Bologna.
August 16th, 2015 at 12:24 pm
I am just glad that we did not have any “12 men on the field” penalties (that I recall.)It looked like everyone got on the field in the correct personnel groups etc etc… that is more than we can say for many regular season games in the last couple of years. small victories, very small victories
August 16th, 2015 at 12:29 pm
Oh yeah Bucs anthem…the same folks inside the Biucs organization who didn’t bother putting together a gameplan for GAME 1 of the preseason just like EVERY OTHER NFL team out there does is in the early stages of buyers remorse. I see “Supersam” decided to chime in on some of these reports. Quite frankly i’m surprised he lifted his head outta Mariotta’s lap long enuff to actually type his usual BS here. Why don’t you go join him anthem. Yeah I wonder where u got that “long delivery” label from?? Perhaps the Vike’s entertainment network commentator?? Part of the illustrious commentating crew that described Daquan Bowers as an 11th year vet?? The same commentating crew that when #3 took over with 50 secondes left in the 1st half, said, “I wanna see him take this down to the 2 minute warning and..er ah, I mean work this under a minute drive?” Plain as day obvious the Vike’s game crew was out taking part in the pregame tailgating activities and yet you people r so pathetic you’re quoting them here like they’re blantantly biased and unsobered opinions really mean something. You people really don’t think the Vikes didn’t have an advantage already being a game up on the Bucs?? You really think last nights game can supply you with meaningful hate to spew here?? Keep talking, it’s funny sitting here laughing at how much ur brains, mouths, and a-holes all have in common.
August 16th, 2015 at 12:31 pm
I’m not freaking out either, by any stretch of normal imagination. I’m never jumping off the Bucs bandwagon, I’m hanging on with white knuckles from all the twists and turns. Everything is going to get better. I enjoyed the game for the most part. Next!
August 16th, 2015 at 12:39 pm
The Lovers and Haters on here kill me.. Call it like it is.
Winston was said to be PRO ready..He is not.
Mariota was said to need a lot of work. He looked more comfortable in His game.
The Bucs looked bad plain and simple.
Winston was playing against 2nd and 3rd stringers and scored against them..He will be playing against first team in reg season..
I hope that was just first game stuff but if it wasnt Winston fans Tampa will run him out of town with Lovie following
August 16th, 2015 at 12:42 pm
Would like to know the status of Demar Dotson…….got anything for us Joe???
August 16th, 2015 at 12:43 pm
I saw lots of Freemanesque overthrows until Jaboon played second teamers.
August 16th, 2015 at 12:45 pm
His throwing motion is elongated…..not a quick release
I understand that it is a by product of a baseball player because I’ve coached both kinds of athletes and throwing motions are a hard habits to un-coach….but it’s not impossible.
Dirk Koetter loves mobile QBs……has ties with Chip Kelly and Oregan State and you can believe they blew up his ear with how awesome Mariota was…..but you’ll never see that published anywhere.
I don’t wear “Rosey colored” Bucs glasses either
August 16th, 2015 at 12:54 pm
@atrain
You act like you have never seen a football game. So, your saint Mariota gives up 14 Pts in two drives and he looked better than Winston? You are clueless. Mariota looked lost out there.
August 16th, 2015 at 12:59 pm
Koehler gushed over Winston before the draft, stop making stuff up.
August 16th, 2015 at 1:05 pm
Forget the QB for now, Our secondary can’t cover their own shadows.
for me this is a bad sign. Why are the opposing receivers always wide open.
You can say it’s preseason but were never prepared for the games.
August 16th, 2015 at 1:07 pm
Sad. Winston looked like Byron and Marcus looked like Aaron. Lovie is our soon at the end of the day
August 16th, 2015 at 1:11 pm
thats the approach joe, point out how well rothlesburger, record maker, did his first preseason game.
August 16th, 2015 at 1:18 pm
Just to point out rothlesbergers third preseason game he went 7/11 for 73 yards and an interception
Matt ryans first preseason game 9 of 15 for 113 yards one touchdown and 2 fumbles.
August 16th, 2015 at 1:20 pm
Winston’s first ever preseason game lol at all of the above foolish talk. ^^^^
August 16th, 2015 at 1:21 pm
Let’s all settle down, folks. There were A LOT of positives to take away from Winston’s performance last night.
Started the game backed up inside his own 20, and checked twice successfully into the right calls that led to a first down. For those scoring at home, Mariota turned the ball over twice inside his own 20 and led to 10 points by the Falcons.
Jameis ran a no-huddle offense on at least two drives and controlled the offense – both drives resulted in points.
The INT he tossed wasn’t horrible. He had Mike Evans in single coverage on the seam (albeit, he was also held on the play w/no flag). MM’s INT? Looked like a kid who was WAY out of his league and panicking, so he tossed up a floater on a screen that was almost a pick six. Inexcusable.
Jameis later acknowledged one on one coverage again on Evans that was incomplete, but (again) should’ve been flagged for PI or illegal contact.
Jameis was in control of the offense and made some pretty ridiculous throws in tight coverage (including one to VJ that a DB made a nice play on near the goal line – although VJ should’ve fought a bit more for it).
Meanwhile, MM looked like a QB who never saw a pocket before and when was forced to go through his progressions, was sacked twice and fumbled which led to points.
This wasn’t even close who’s performance was better. Yes, Winston looked like a rookie. But let’s all calm down the haterade and start questioning the draft pick. It’s the first preseason game of a long career. And I for one am pretty pumped about some of the things I saw last night. Anyone who isn’t either has an agenda, or just doesn’t know football very well.
August 16th, 2015 at 1:24 pm
Atrain Says:
The Lovers and Haters on here kill me.. Call it like it is.
Winston was said to be PRO ready..He is not.
Mariota was said to need a lot of work. He looked more comfortable in His game.
The Bucs looked bad plain and simple.
Winston was playing against 2nd and 3rd stringers and scored against them..He will be playing against first team in reg season.
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How did mariota look better? Did he not take an 11 yard sack? Did he not have “two” turnovers? One being a fumble which he had a big issue with that in college. Did he not score his lone touchdown against 2nd and 3rd teamers? Please explain to me Mariota lover how he looked better than Winston.
August 16th, 2015 at 1:29 pm
BucinNC Says:
August 16th, 2015 at 1:07 pm
Sad. Winston looked like Byron and Marcus looked like Aaron. Lovie is our soon at the end of the day
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Please explain how Marcus looked like Aaron. I have a feeling from your comment you are a football idiot. You obviously have not seen Aaron Rogers play or even know who he is if you thought what you saw from Marcus was like Aaron. Maybe you were talking about your local town high school legend Aaron Davidson?
August 16th, 2015 at 1:31 pm
I thought Winston played good last night. The only throw he missed was that bang 8 (backside skinny post) to Evans. If Vjax keeps his feet he probably would’ve got caught at the 1 lol but we would’ve punched it in.
August 16th, 2015 at 1:32 pm
Tiny Tim ….Mariota didn’t score any TD’s..
August 16th, 2015 at 1:33 pm
All I know is we are going to be ready for Tennessee we lose that game then I’ll worry.
August 16th, 2015 at 1:39 pm
Here was my prediction in the “message boards” before last nights game.
08-14-2015, 10:47 AM
MY PREDICTION
1.)130 YDS, 1 TD, 2 INT’s
2.) 24-14 Bucs Lose
3.) OFF: Kenny Bell DEF : Kwon Alexander
Kwon played a pretty decent game for a rookie. Bell well …meh.
https://joebucsfan.com/forum/forum/bucs-bucs-and-more-bucs/807-predictions-anyone-tb-vs-min
August 16th, 2015 at 1:39 pm
Jameis will be very good im just scared o fthat crappy OL and the OL coach keeping jameis upright
August 16th, 2015 at 1:42 pm
87
You are right my friend. My intentions were Mariota’s team scored the only touchdown in which he was the qb against 2nd and 3rd stringers.
August 16th, 2015 at 1:42 pm
Winston will be fine. I more concerned about the completion percentage we allow to opposing qbs no matter who is playing behind center.
And why the hell Gerald McCoy gets drovout of the back of the end zone by the left guard on the TD run? You are a hundred million dollar player that fish isn’t supposed to happen
August 16th, 2015 at 1:45 pm
Jameis will be just fine and I’m not even really worried about the O line…yet.
Worried more about Lovie and Leslie’s defense. Two manly names trying to run our defense like it’s 1999.
August 16th, 2015 at 1:50 pm
Frazier has to go. You can’t have he and lovie together coaching defense. They both are too laid back we need at least one rah rah guy to balance each other out.
August 16th, 2015 at 1:55 pm
I thought Jameis played as well as I expected. Anyone who has been an athlete and then jumped to the next level of competition will know that there is some adjustment to be had. Preseason, like practice, is the time to make mistakes and figure out what one can and can’t do. He’ll be very good.
How is it that Gilkey has a job in the NFL? I know that preseason depth charts don’t mean anything but it’s a joke that Gilkey is on this team let alone ahead of Ali Marpet.
August 16th, 2015 at 1:57 pm
The Bucs looked unprepared compared to a more experienced team which also had a game this season under their belts…a WIN btw.
This was most obvious at QB. Teddy Bridgewater is now in his second year and he has played lights out against the Steelers and the Bucs.
IMHO those of you who totally disregard any of the “good things” the Bucs did last night so you can simply continued to be mindless piling on, are seriously dissing the Vikings. If this had been the Jags or Browns and it was the first game for each time I might be concerned.
Minnesota is clearly a better team than us at the moment!!! Bridgewater’s development is a year ahead of Fameis. We’ll have to wait to see the learning curve of this entire team, not just Fameis.
I remain optimistic. Fameis did not get down on himself. We saw some good bursts from players like Martin and Sims even had a good run…Mike James caught the ball well…and the OL looks like a project…but not really the disaster of last year.
The Vikings do NOT suck!!! Sometimes the reason for a score is as much to do with your competition. The Vikes will be Green Bay’s major challenge this year.
August 16th, 2015 at 1:57 pm
87
Marpet looked great out there. I would start:
Dotson, Marpet, Allen, mankins, smith.
No idea who will back up Dotson, is it pamphile or Edwards? I think we should get on the phone and find some help at tackle.
Mike Jenkins got burnt again or the Tampa 2 got burnt either or but that stuff has to stop. Oh and how about those lame punts? Not sure if we improved at all since last year but it’s early and there’s still hope
August 16th, 2015 at 1:58 pm
FYI- some of yall are absolute morons.
This was the first preseason, save us your “not pro ready” or “run out of Tampa” BS.
Pats used to get killed every preseason and then run to the SB. Jameis will be just fine.
Anyone on here overreacting on here either has waaaaay to high expectations for a team that was the worst in the league last year, or you wanted to have a negative reaction before the game even started.
August 16th, 2015 at 2:02 pm
Jameis Winston is not the problem, this was a 2-14 team before Jameis was drafted. Jameis a lot of good throws last night, the interception was a good throw. It was an anticipation throw, but Mike Evans didn’t get to the ball. It seems like he was held on the play, but Jameis put the ball where it need to be. But what impress me more last night, was right before the half. The Bucs got the ball back with 25 seconds on the clock, and with 1 timeout left. They got the ball at their own 36, Jameis hit Brandon Myers for 1 yard, then use his last timeout. He then hit Mike James, who took the ball to midfield at the 50 yard line with 17 seconds left. He then brought the team up and spiked the ball with 1 second left. Then he threw a Hail Mary 60 yards in the air, not many QBs in the NFL can make that throw. This is a 21 year old rookie, he gave his team a chance to put points on the points with 25 seconds on the clock with 1 timeout. Jameis did his job, he proved to me that he has what it takes to be an franchise QB in this league. He made big throws under pressure, he never buckle. He had complete command of the huddle, he wasn’t afraid to throw into coverage. The Bucs made the right choice by drafting Jameis Winston with the 1st overall pick. They just need to put pieces around him, especially some decent edge rushers. The people who say that he play poorly last night and he made bad decisions, are the couch jocks, who never played a down of football in their life. We didn’t come out on offense like Dirk Koetter wanted to, because we we started inside of our own 5 yard line. That’s why we went with 4 straight running plays, but overall Jameis had a good debut. If I was grading his performance, from what I seen from him I would give him a B.
August 16th, 2015 at 2:03 pm
I’m not sure what games some of you posters watched, but here’s what I saw:::
Mariota looked poised and confident last night.
Yes, he got jumped on that pick, but that’s just not fully understanding how fast NFL linebackers are. (something Winston acknowledged this week).
Mariota went 7 of 8 for a passer rating of 76.
Winston, on the other hand, looked awful last night.
He had happy feet in the pocket.
Had that deer in the headlights look on his face. And the number of incompletions (he was 9 for 19) reflect how uncomfortable he is at this level now.
Winston’s passer rating? 48…Ouch!
CBS Sports said Winston looked “overwhelmed”.
ESPN said he “floundered”.
TampaBay.com said “The kid was lousy.”
So Joe can call him “America’s QB” all he wants, but the more appropriate nickname might be “America’s QB Bust”
August 16th, 2015 at 2:05 pm
@db 55
That’s exactly how it should look from left to right. Anyone with two working eyes can see Dotson and smith need to switch sides.
August 16th, 2015 at 2:08 pm
Lakeland
And he lost the timeout due to dot sons injury. He even hit Sheppard in the chest with the Hail Mary pass but shep didn’t secure it. That would have been awesome if they converted that play.
August 16th, 2015 at 2:10 pm
Iamkingsu
You want Marpet and smith on the same side? I’m not that confident.
August 16th, 2015 at 2:14 pm
No reason to panic. But I didn’t see anything to get me excited, either. Except maybe Robert Herron catching the ball.
August 16th, 2015 at 2:17 pm
@db55
That’s a good point but I think we can get away with it though. That’s our strong side so a tight end is usually over there. Smith feet is little slow at this point in his career to play on the left side.
August 16th, 2015 at 2:18 pm
Bucs blew the pick and would not listen to the experts Glazers listen to the fans Marcus was the only pick
August 16th, 2015 at 2:19 pm
jeff..what “experts”?
August 16th, 2015 at 2:22 pm
Kingsu
If you recorded the game watch it again. Smith played sound FB outside of one play. I agree his footwork will improve with time but the kid is like the Great Wall of china there’s no getting around him. Best LT play since Penn.
August 16th, 2015 at 2:28 pm
This game proved two things to me:
1. The commenters on this site aren’t as educated as I once thought.
2. I really hope a lot of you play the stock market, so I can reap the rewards of your panicky “He’s a bust!!!” and “FIRE EVERYBODY!!” knee-jerk attitudes.
Real thoughts:
1. The Vikings are a legit top 10 D this year, possibly top 5. Couple that with the overwhelming advantage that it was their second preseason game AND a home game for them. You couldn’t draw up a much tougher first game scenario for Winston and the Bucs.
2. Winston looked bad, let’s be honest, he DID – but he did NOT look confused or overwhelmed. That is a huge distinction and why he will ultimately have success. His accuracy was an absolute issue and on several occasion it was because he did not set his feet properly. That’s an issue. A very correctable one. The key is he never looked confused or overwhelmed. You cannot teach that. Even on the two inexcusable bad snaps, he did NOT panic and calmly recovered both. I came away impressed with his effort and will look to see if corrections are made in week 2.
3. The Bucs gave him a 3rd grade level game plan. Very few play-actions. Lining up trips multiple times so that he only had to read half the field for his opening game. AND… almost no play calls geared towards the Bucs number one weapon – Mike Evans. Are you really telling me that they’re aren’t going to drop an avalanche of fade routes on the opposition when close to the goal line with their receiving Goliaths during the regular season?! Koetter is legit, and will slowly roll out game plans that accentuate and take advantage of the Bucs strengths. They did none of that last night.
4. The Bucs defense looked overmatched. Period. Period. Period. The Vikings slammed two guys at McCoy every play with a back usually nearby to help in pass protection. The ends had one on one matchups all night and couldn’t do anything – particularly in the first half – even after Loadholt went out. The solution is NOT on the roster right now and Lovie’s defense will not work unless they get that figured out. The DB’s were hung out to dry all night and made to look bad. Receivers are always going to be open if a QB has 4-5 seconds to throw on every play. And they didn’t even have AP to contend with. I was very unimpressed with our D.
August 16th, 2015 at 2:31 pm
@Buc Anthem. Actually, the GM liked Jameis and Lovie liked Marcus…and they all got consensus on Jameis. If you’re going to argue with Bucs fans, fine, but get your facts straight.
August 16th, 2015 at 2:40 pm
@db55
I agree he played soundly after that play. But that spin moved concerned me because that wasn’t even one of those explosive freeney spins to the inside and he still couldn’t get near griffin to recover on the play.
I’m looking ahead to Robert quinn, Robert mathis, and Greg Hardy that he’ll go up against. But hey its game 1 of the preseason who knows how much he’ll improve with more game reps because he’s not going face that type of completion in practice that’s for damn sure.
August 16th, 2015 at 2:48 pm
NO!! JAMEIS WILL NOT BE FINE!! HE SUCKS!! We drafted the wrong guy!! I think Kellen Moore throws harder than this clown!! Lovie should get fired! Licht should get fired!! Joe should get fired!!! and 87 should get fired!!!!
DAMN YOU ALL FOR GETTING MY HOPES UP!! MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOULS!!
August 16th, 2015 at 2:51 pm
I’m with you buc4life1979, why is everybody freaking out? Last night’s game was about how I thought it would be. Personally, I’m super excited about Winston, I think we got a stud in this kid! You have to remember, there were many 2nd teamers in there with Winston (Pamphile, Edwards, Gilkey, Omamaeh) and many 2nd and 3rd team receivers. let’s not get our panties in a bunch ladies, Winston is going to develop into a young star THIS YEAR, for those that want to hate arent true Buc fans period!
August 16th, 2015 at 2:51 pm
Kingsu
True story, Quinn, Hardy and J.J are all smiling right now.
One love
Lmao, smh. Errting ire!
August 16th, 2015 at 3:10 pm
JOE isn’t freaking out because JOE, like his afternoon radio drive-time “good friend” and “Dean”, are hopelessly hypocritical. Duh. Anyone who has read a couple of JBFs should know that to be the truth. Honestly, JOE shouldn’t be freaking out, but if it was one of JOE’s usual whipping boys who made the same, very understandable mistakes that Jameis made, JOE would be apoplectic.
August 16th, 2015 at 3:15 pm
I agree that the above negativity is way premature and ridiculous at this point. I’m kinda worried about our Oline situation, but other than that I think we can pull it all together and have a respectable season. I still think Jameis will throw 35 Td’s and have 4,000 yards passing this season. He does need to figure out how to get in the zone/rhythm/flow during the normal bulk of the game instead of just the clutchest of clutch moments, though. That is a bit concerning
August 16th, 2015 at 3:16 pm
Fred:
Would love to see a quote that Lovie wanted Mariota. Linkage helps.
Don’t throw “facts” in people’s faces unless you have them.
August 16th, 2015 at 3:46 pm
Leonard Scarnesi
Thanks for listening to Joe and “The Big Dog” on the radio. More importantly, as always, thanks for reading, and commenting.
Cha-ching! 🙂
August 16th, 2015 at 3:50 pm
All I’m saying is:::
Character matters.
It’s what defines a person.
It gets you through the tough times.
And the lack of character can be devastating to those around that person.
So in watching the Bucs, it just confirmed in my mind—
Famous Jameis just doesn’t have it.
IMHO.
August 16th, 2015 at 3:56 pm
So many similar negative comments… I’ve read these boards for months and I think the majority of these sky is falling comments are by a few select dimwits. It’s the first preseason game. Get over yourselves.
August 16th, 2015 at 4:10 pm
I can’t figure out if people are just talking out of their a$$es or if they truly don’t know the definition of the phase and words they are trying to use.
@Fred-Consensus means everybody agrees on it.
Pro ready is a quarter back that was taught in college a pro style system therefore their transition to the NFL should take less time. Here’s an example if a quarter back has to learn how to take a snap under center and call plays in a huddle he isn’t pro ready.
Many of these topics have been discussed before like Winston’s throwing motion. I understand that the Minn broadcasters don’t follow the Bucs or Winston so they don’t know that his motion has been corrected and is much shorter than it was in college. As a Buc fan you should know this topic better than a bottom tier national guy. Ronde started to talk about it but got interrupted and didn’t explain the whole story either.
I wonder how many Viking fans had to change their screen names for jumping off the Bridgewater wagon. BTW Joe does know some QBs he did like Teddy, too soon to tell on Johny.
August 16th, 2015 at 4:33 pm
Okay, first off, everyone shut up about Mariota looking better than Jameis. Must I remind everyone that the Falcon’s entire defense(especially the secondary) was one of the worst in the league last year. So Mariota didn’t have to go against even a decent opponent his first game. Jameis on the other hand went against a pretty impressive(so far) Vikings defense with a VERY LOUSY O-Line. No one plays good behind a bad line. NOBODY.
Secondly, the game was totally BS when it came to uncalled penalties that completely killed drives. ( pass interfere on Mike Evans, late hit on Jameis which probably would’ve had the player ejected if the game were regular season.)
So in the end, with everything going against Jameis(good defense,uncalled penalties) he looked pretty good. Not perfect, but he showed that he can be clutch and make a drive happen.
Let’s just not call him a bust yet, it’s also preseason which doesn’t even reveal all of the offensive plays that Dirk will call in the regular season. So Joe is right, EVERYONE CALM DOWN. BELIEVE IN JAMEIS.
August 16th, 2015 at 4:36 pm
But reading a lot of these ignorant comments about Jameis Winston, takes me back to 1985-1986, 1986-1987 seasons in Tampa. John McCkay had retire after the 1984- 1985 season, and Hugh Culverhouse hired Leeman Bennett as Head Coach to replace McKay. Leeman Bennett should have won a Sper Bowl with a stacked Atlanta Falcons team, but he always choked in the big games. Especially when he choked against the Dallas Cowboys in 1981. They also brought Steve Young in from the L.A Express after the USFL had folded in 1985. The Bucs went 2-14 both seasons that Steve Young was here, Leeman Bennett and his OC( Jimmy Raye) didn’t have a clue. The last season Steve Young was our QB, our offense scored 239 points and our defense gave up 473 points. The defense had given up 443 points the year before, the team was a mess. And our football ignorant fans was always blaming Steve Young for our demise. So finally Hugh Culverhouse put Steve Young on the trading block and Bill Walsh being the Offensive Genius that he was, worked day and night trying to pry Steve Young from the Bucs. And finally he offered Culverhouse a package that he couldn’t refuse, a 2nd and 4th round pick for a Super Bowl winning, Hall of Fame QB.The fans was happy and Culverhouse thought he had commited highway robbery against the 49ers. So the Bucs fired Leeman Bennett and hired Ray Perkins, and they drafted Vinny Testaverde. And they went 4-11 and they didn’t have a winning season until 1997. And only a few of us were loyal to the Bucs throughout the misery. But the moral of this story is don’t listen to the illiterate fans, I mean football illiterate. We didn’t win until Culverhouse sold the team to Malcolm Glazer. Teams don’t get a franchise QB too often, and Jameis Winston is our best QB since Steve Young. Steve Young came to us at the age of 24, and Jameis is 21. Every true Buc fan should be glad that we have Jameis as our QB, the future is bright. And this is coming from a true,long time Buc fan. Not a bandwagon fan, the haters will be out. But we have to understand that they don’t have anything better to do than to hate on others. Don’t hate them,we can only feel sorry for them. Pray for them, because they are some lost souls.
August 16th, 2015 at 4:39 pm
You all have to excuse some of my typos
August 16th, 2015 at 5:04 pm
Jameis played like a rookie QB adjusting to the NFL, because he is one, He made some good throws and made some smart audibles at the line, th also made some bad ones, plus he was playing against a pretty good defense, Jameis will learn, Peyton Manning and Elway struggled intially, but look how they turned out. However our OL and Defense have me worried more, the defense and offense and no idea what they were trying to do,
August 16th, 2015 at 5:09 pm
Once a Bucs fan, always a Bucs fan. No way around it.
August 16th, 2015 at 5:56 pm
Hey Brian. Hey Brian
I Guess None of the NFL commentators know anything..
Did U Watch the game…Take off your” I Love Winston Glasses” and watch the game.
Know this if Winston fails A lot of Fans will revolt..
Truth is Truth..Winston did not look good
August 16th, 2015 at 8:34 pm
Joe you said the bucs would win 6 games why is Winston not a number 1 pick ?I don’t understand Luck was also a number one pick and the colts were as bad if not worse than the bucs and they won 10 games is luck that much better I think Winston will do a lot better than people think I think the running game will be solid and we do not need him to be superman just a bit better than Glennon I wanted Marcus but we have to get behind Winston and you can see talent bucs special teams didn’t help him out and they looked bad in all phases
August 16th, 2015 at 9:20 pm
Winston held his own. JW is very green–he is brand new to NFL–honestly any job that someone comes in and they are new — they look and feel awkward. Most of these guys sit the bench for a year or more.They then get a start and without all the drama like JW got. We want someone now that is consistent and able to lead the team to playoffs, superbowl etc. Maybe next year. Let us enjoy watching this kid get better every game–he is FUN to watch because he has incredible potential. Let us be glad for that. Next thing you know he breaks out with 5 receptions in a row. Really–dial down the expectations and lets have fun watching him get better. That pass to Herron–the pass to VJax–head first in the end zone, all the passes to Murphy–I liked that. I do not even remember what Glennon did–(I agree with trading him for maybe an OL or DE player.) Seth has more potential than Glennon. Another note: very few of our receivers were wide open ever.
August 16th, 2015 at 9:21 pm
The Colt were 141 out of the last 160 games in the last 10 season prior to Luck being drafted. Everybody but you knows they played Painter the entire season so they could draft Luck. Btw the Bucs were 30-70 the last 100 games before drafting Jameis. Other than being totally wrong GREAT point- Next!
August 16th, 2015 at 9:49 pm
I appreciate especially the comments from Lakeland buc(thanks)
Can you all imagine if we got Marcus Marioota, the haters would be hating on him the same way LOL! What he did was just as awkward as JW’s game. I think JW played longer and guess what he was getting better fast–kid learns quick–I have dialed down my expectations as expected with a team relying on mostly rookies.
August 16th, 2015 at 10:07 pm
The haters would hate it if the Bucs drafted Marcus.
No matter who is drafted they will bitch and whine and claim they know better.
I have no idea how Winston will turn out. He seems like an NFL Qb who will have a lot of success. He seems like sure thing like Luck was except the off field crap.
But who knows. NO ONE DOES. That’s the point, it’s a crap shoot.
The funny thing to me is the fact that it is a pre season game. His first ever. So it does matter one bit. It is a practice. A learning experience and player evaluation time.
Most the negative idiots here seem to think one bad showing in a pre season practice suddenly means they should cut the kid.
That shows such a deep sense of ignorance. It’s pathetic.
Do any of you actually know the NFL version of football?
Get a grip and get back to reality, if you were ever here to begin with.
August 16th, 2015 at 10:12 pm
Cowboys – the 4 year down they win 3 rings- they went 7-12-1 in pre season.
Redskins – 1991 went 1-3 pre season then 14-2 and won a SB
The point is /—
PRE SEASON MEANS NOTHING. NADA. ZERO
August 16th, 2015 at 10:33 pm
Dave…except for the fact that the team looks the same as they did last season.
August 16th, 2015 at 11:33 pm
BucinNC MARIOTA THREW 8 PASSES ONE IN THE CHEST OF A LINEBACKER ON A SCREEN AND A BAD FUMBLE AND YOU SAID HE LOOKED LIKE AARON. F YOU DUDE. FOR REAL
August 17th, 2015 at 8:49 am
People are idiots.
August 17th, 2015 at 8:58 am
Mariota looked as bad as Winston. At times looked downright uncomfortable in the pocket. Anyone who says differently did not watch them play.