Bucs Cut 10 In First Wave Of Roster Shaving
August 30th, 2015
The Bucs cut a seventh-round draft pick today, rookie Samoan fullback Joey Iosefa, the pride of the University of Hawaii.
Running back Dominique Brown also got the ax, and it wasn’t that long ago that general manager Jason Licht was saying great things about him.
Mike James and Jorvorskie Lane are breathing a little easer tonight.
Also cut were eight more camp-meat bodies: Defensive tackle Quayshawne Buckley, offensive lineman Antoine Everett, long-snapper Brandon Hartson, safety Kimario McFadden, punter Karl Schmitz, cornerback Al-Hajj Shabazz, defensive end George Uko and defensive end Jamal Young were all waived.
Of those names, Joe only remembers Shabazz and Uko getting noticed in training camp. Joe recalls Uko beating Evan Smith cleanly in a 1-on-1 drill, and Shabazz had at least one interception and his share of solid plays.
The Bucs must cut another five players before Tuesday at 4 p.m. or 5 p.m. That would put them at the 75-man roster limit prior to Thursday’s preseason finale at Miami. On Saturday, the Bucs must have their 53-man roster set.
August 30th, 2015 at 7:50 pm
The cuts to 75 are never that telling, mostly camp meat. But that cut to 53 will be huge. Not just tough decisions for us but some other teams are going to have to expose some decent players when the cuts get to 53. Hopefully one or two can help us since we get first dibs.
August 30th, 2015 at 7:54 pm
expected and the right moves
August 30th, 2015 at 7:59 pm
Iosefa was buried behind on the depth chart. I really hope he gets a chance somewhere to play.
August 30th, 2015 at 8:01 pm
Any chance we make a play for Tim Jennings???
August 30th, 2015 at 8:02 pm
Now cut o-lineman:Edwards,Omameh,Gilke,Fragel,
August 30th, 2015 at 8:04 pm
Then cut Bell & Clay and keep Humphries and Hall. Resign Bell and Clay to the practice squad if possible.
August 30th, 2015 at 8:07 pm
We are first in line for waiver wire players… It will be interesting to see if we can sign anyone who can at least provide solid deapth…
August 30th, 2015 at 8:08 pm
On defense cut:Conte,Lemon,Johnson and put Gholsten on notice. Gholsten won’t reach his full potential w/ the Bucs for various reasons. He falls somewhere in between Bowers & Claybourne. Maybe getting cut and resigned by the Bucs will scare him.
August 30th, 2015 at 8:16 pm
Dude Tim Jennings would give us great depth. I’m pretty sure that we wont shell out the kind of money he would want though.
August 30th, 2015 at 8:19 pm
Newbucsfan,
Lemon was cut earlier this week but I agree, he had no place here.
Camp meat cuts for sure. I hope the next round gets rid of veteran dead weight, specifically Evan Smith. Dude’s got to go!
August 30th, 2015 at 8:22 pm
kinda seems like a 7th rounder for La’el Collins might have been a worthwhile risk to take
August 30th, 2015 at 8:22 pm
Also cut coaches: O’dea,Warhop and Cullen yes Cullen. You don’t need a holla & cussing head coach to succeed but you do need one for the D-line. Good D-line coaches are off the rails a little bit in their own way. But that is how they maximize the talent around them. This is one of the reasons why Gholsten will never reach his full potential in Tampa.
If he goes to houstan,ATL,seattle,patriots,steelers,cowboys,vikings,chiefs,bills,jets, he’d look like and play like a beast. Because the culture and D-line coaches there don’t play that half ass B.S.
August 30th, 2015 at 8:40 pm
I don’t think it matters who or how many they cut. This team is a joke right because the head coach is a joke. 2 wins maybe, 3 if some team has 30 men on IR, 4 no way not with this staff.
August 30th, 2015 at 8:45 pm
BigMacAttack. You predict 3..4 max..I predict 10…Joe predicts 4-6.
We’ll see at the end of the year.
From the glass half full half empty category. Just roll back and get a load of the threads. The most negative topics are overloaded with comments.
The most positive aspect from last night…Doug Martin hasn’t even reached double digits.
Glass definitely half empty eh since people obviously prefer to comment…and some celebrate…our miscues last night while ignoring the renaissance of a terrific RB!!! Just think about the implications..nobody wants to talk about the success but we can’t seem to wait to yell about the failures.
What’s the joke…everybody’s a critic?
August 30th, 2015 at 9:19 pm
The Bucs would be dumb to make a play for Tim Jennings, there will be a lot of good corners in the next round of cuts. Tim Jennings is too old and on the downside of his career, we need young players with upside. And no more Bears rejects, the one they should have signed they didn’t speak to him (Delvin Hester) but they bring in all of this other Bear Trash. Major Wright, Josh McCown, Chris Conte etc. I just hope the Bucs do the right thing and keep the best players, i’m tired of us getting rid of good football players. And keeping the trash players, I hope this season is different. I’m almost certain that we keep Will Gholston and Henry Melton as DE/DT.That will leave room for 3 DTs, I hope we keep Edawn Coughman. I still say that he’s a good O-Lineman, do the right thing Bucs. GO BUCS
August 30th, 2015 at 9:32 pm
cometowin2, lol all I can do is laugh at some of you people. You all have zero football knowledge, but you quick to comment. In 2008 when Matt Ryan was a rookie, the Atlanta Falcons also signed Michael Turner . As the Falcons rush for over 2400 yards, and they went 11-5 under Mike Mularkey as OC. In 2013 the Atlants Falcons rush for 1247 yards as they went 4-12. And in 2014 the Atlanta Falcons rushed for 1498 yards, and went 6-10. It’s a fact that Dirk Koetter, Vertical passing offense improved Matt Ryan numbers as a passer. As he have pass for over 4,000 yards every season in it. In 2013 Matt Ryan attempted 659 passes and they ran the ball 321 times. In 2014 Matt Ryan attempted 632 passes and they ran the football 372 times. My point is simple, the Falcons did not have an balance attack under Koetter. Like the balance attack that they had with Mike Mularkey, which they won with. They won with Mularkley attack, every season, they never had a losing record. But you have these pass happy, football illiterate, football fans. Who would say that the Falcons have a top ranked offense, and they score a lot of points. So it gotta be the defense fault for them losing. But in reality, a pass happy offense will only destroy a good defense. The Seattle Seahawks have been a force in the NFL since drafting Russell Wilson, but they are balance. They are not one dimension like the Falcons was under Koetter. Here are the Seahawks numbers with Wilson. In 2012 they threw 405 passes, and ran the ball 536 times. In 2013 they threw 420 passes and ran the ball 509 times. In 2014 they threw 454 passes and ran the ball 525 times. And they have been very, very successful with their balance attack. In 1979 we won the NFC South, Doug Williams attempted 434 passes for less than 2500 yards. He even threw 18 TDS to 24 INTS, and completed 42% of his passes. But the Bucs ran the ball 609 times for over 2400 yards and we had the best defense in the league. Coach Bill Castle haven’t had a losing season in 37 years as our Head Coach at Lakeland High. And at one time we had 3 straight 15-0 seasons with 3 State Titles and a National titles. He always stressed a balance attack, as did Coach McKay with the Bucs. Matter of fact, all great coaches believed in a balanced attack. So if a person think that Dirk Koetter and his pass happy attack wasn’t responsible for the Falcons demise. They obviously has no football knowledge, and do not fully understand the game. And it’s always the people with the less amount of knowledge that throws the insults. I guess if you lack the knowledge to indulge in a mature conversation, you has to go into a childish rant. GO BUCS
Sorry for the long essay, but the guy wanted facts. So i’m given him facts
August 30th, 2015 at 9:38 pm
SPBF, I said 3 max. And like a moron, I renewed my tickets, but not until after the draft. However, I would much rather win and be wrong than lose and be right. Martin looks good if they can block for him. Jameis has now limped off the field twice because they can’t or won’t block for him. We haven’t even played a good team yet. The Cowboys will probably beat us 55-0. Lovie is a problem, but again I hope I’m wrong.
August 30th, 2015 at 9:46 pm
Damn it I was pulling for….cornerback Al-Hajj Shabazz!
Joe…This ruined my entire weekend now.
August 30th, 2015 at 9:50 pm
Fun fact:
Dirk Koetter took both the jags and falcons to the playoffs the first year he joined each team as an OC.
11-5 w the jags
13-3 w the Falcons
10-6 w the bucs
August 30th, 2015 at 9:56 pm
DB55, That also my fact, he walked into playoff teams. And they went to the playoffs his first season, then he wants to make changes and the bottom fall out.
August 30th, 2015 at 10:09 pm
Lklnd
Can’t disagree mr. Lakeland, I for one am not a huge fan. I’ve posted my issues with him more than once. Basically, he can’t score when it matters like championship games. He also had a few pb in atl.
Nevertheless, I look for positives to post. Must admit most times I fail miserably.
August 30th, 2015 at 10:14 pm
Like I said on an earlier thread Andrew 1 and I already discussed Koetter about 2 months ago. We figured he would be much better than the young QB coach Arroyo of course, but other than that, meh. I will admits I have seen better plays called than Arroyo so far though. If they have time to set up.
August 30th, 2015 at 10:22 pm
So Atlanta only produced winning seasons because they were full of Mularkey. No wonder Tennessee denied the Bucs talking to him. He is assistant head coach for the Titans now. He could have been the Bucs OC, another one that got away.
August 30th, 2015 at 10:25 pm
There is no way in Hell Kadeem Edwards should make this roster.
Gotta find a trade partner for Bruce Carter ($4,250,000) as well. Since their so deep on the Oline – Maybe we can trade him back to the Cowboys. Swap for one of their back up lineman.
August 30th, 2015 at 10:35 pm
DB55, I look for positive feeds, I just hope Dirk Koetter don’t ruin Jameis Winston with his pass happy offense. To be honest, I believe Mike Pettine prepared for Dirk Koetter than Jameis Winston. If you go back to the Browns and Falcons game of week 12 in 2014. The Browns defense dominated to Falcons offense with blitz packages, Matt Ryan was sacked 3 times and pressure about 10 times. And the Browns held their explosive offense to 315 total yards. I’m a Die Hard Buc fan, but we need some good playcalling. I still say that we win the NFC South this season, because we will run the ball. GO BUCS
August 30th, 2015 at 10:39 pm
So the Offensive Line is still is still terrible – With an NFL Caliber – Play Caller at the Helm…Go Figure
August 30th, 2015 at 11:01 pm
The offense line is not that bad, we just need to go to our power game. We have a rookie QB, we need to keep Lane in the backfield, and Luke Stocker on the field as a TE. We don’t need 3 WR, 1 back, 1 TE on the field. We need to play good defense and move the chains, Lane should be our single back a lot of times. We should have VJAX, Mike Evans, Lane, ASJ, Luke Stocker on the field in our power offense. We shouldn’t have a Slot Receiver, we should have a TE in the slot. If we have 2 TEs, 5 O-Linemen on the line, and we still can’t pickup a blitz. Then I would say that we have a terrible O-Line, but we have a good O-Line. GO BUCS
August 30th, 2015 at 11:07 pm
LUVMYBUCS Says:
August 30th, 2015 at 10:39 pm
“So the Offensive Line is still is still terrible – With an NFL Caliber – Play Caller at the Helm…Go Figure.”
Who said it wasn’t going to be? I thought most Bucs fans have worried about the o-line all off season. I know I have for one.
August 30th, 2015 at 11:19 pm
Really was pulling for that somoan kid….hope he latches on to another team quick
August 30th, 2015 at 11:29 pm
Al-Hajj Shabazz
Kind of sucks when you read this guy’s twitter page. Everyone in his family was just giving him congrats about 2 days ago for making the team. Sucks when you read all how proud of him they were and all that shyte.
Today’s world with social media is chaotic!
August 30th, 2015 at 11:41 pm
This is what Lovie had to say about our blitz blocking Saturday night. “The problems I have were when we knew who to block and we did not,” Smith said. “And it always comes down to that. Defenses are going to have good plays at time. They may have you out-numbered, but you have a plan in place when that happens. You have built-in things that take care of that. It was our execution. Our execution, of course, is when you know who you’re blocking. We didn’t get it done. Sometimes I think it’s as simple as that. We just didn’t get it done blocking.”
August 30th, 2015 at 11:50 pm
Its going to be hard to pull off four vertical with our oline. Im sure Tennessee is going to commit to stoping the run and blitz excessively, making Jameis beat them with short passes. Jameis and Koetter will both have to be patient, and take what they can.
Defensively, Mariota is probably going to keep it basic. I dont know if they going to try to run more or if they let Mariota pick us apart a few yards at a time. I doubt they come out too agressive with a rookie qb and no proven playmakers. We’ll see though. As long as our defense stays disciplined and wraps up the receiver, we should be allright. Some pressure from our d line would be nice.
Staying patient and efficent on offense is key though. Try to score as often as possible. Put the pressure on their rookie. Dont give him a lead. If we put the game on Mariota’s shoulders, we can make him crumble. It just depends on Kotter play calling and Jameis execution to put Mariota in that situation.
August 31st, 2015 at 12:03 am
Dude(s) they way to beat the blitz is to throw to the blitz. Simple as that. You guys don’t play madden? Ha!
August 31st, 2015 at 12:09 am
Exactly @LargoBuc. If we are to win this season, and I really believe that we will win the NFC South. It will have to be with our Power Game, not with a vertical, passing game. I believe that Jorvorskie Lane can be our Mike Alstott type fullback, but a better blocker. We will have to be similar to the Seattle Seahawks, play power football on both sides of the ball. That has always been our system ( Buc Ball) we never been a finese team. GO BUCS
August 31st, 2015 at 2:03 am
Wanted to see Iosefa carry the ball but I don’t think they ever gave it to him once. Hopefully he gets a chance elsewhere.
August 31st, 2015 at 2:32 am
We’re definitely going to have to get back to buc ball with that fullback but with these cuts today they mean that Lovie is comfortable with the defense and is shortening the secondary unit and going with the set guys meaning Frey will be gone and maybe Conte or Wright if not both but I think Conte should be gone because I think Keith Tandy should start over Mcdougald being faster and all because we are gonna need more speed beside Swearinger. I dont expect too many linebackers cut but more defensive lineman will be cut and with Mcdaniel in the rotation now I think Gholston is gone and so is Bowers and English I think will be cut too because they have found something by moving Melton to defensive end which will allow them to cut more at that position with Jaquies Smith coming off the bench but I think George Johnson better step up or McDaniel is starting at the other end spot. The next five will be telling because im expecting the skill spots on offense to be next to get trimmed and maybe one of the tight ends like Cameron Brate to be cut next along with a lot of offensive lineman although im hoping they use practice squad for that position with guys like Gilkey and Edwards and start by weening out the team of bad vets like Mankins and his huge contract and Evan Smith while leaving Fragel on the practice squad and once Dotson is healthy move him to LT and Donovan Smith to guard along with Marpet and start Jeremiah Warren from day one.
August 31st, 2015 at 6:26 am
Ioseffa never got a shot here. It is too bad. The guy has talent. He was never a fullback. He was always the starting halfback in college and quarterback in high school and he has great hands. They should have given him the ball a couple of times. We should have had the opportunity to at least see what he has.
August 31st, 2015 at 10:48 am
AustinBucFan nailed it! Wouldn’t a shot-in-the-dark 7th-round pick of La’el Collins have been worth it. Jesus. I mean, why did you draft a damn full back anyway!?! Now the pick is wasted and you’re still dying for help on the O-line. What a waste of a pick!
What’s even more infuriating is that the damn Cowboys get him. I know the kid lost a lot of money in the process, but shouldn’t he have been forced to go into the supplemental draft and NOT be allowed to pick his own damn team? The rich just keep getting richer.
August 31st, 2015 at 12:35 pm
I have no issues with these cuts.