When Will The Losing End?
July 23rd, 2015
These are rough times for Bucs fans not seen since the immortal Leeman Bennett soiled the sidelines.
Week after week, month after month, season after season, the Bucs lose. And the worst of it is they seem to invent ways to fail, no matter the coach, no matter the year, no matter the quarterback.
Joe is starting to think the culture of losing, which engulfed this franchise in the 1980s and much of the 1990s, has sunk back in.
Joe is confident Bucs fans will start to taste that McMuffin they just wolfed down an hour ago after reading the following note pumped out by BSPN. It’s among 50 things to know about the NFL — 50 days shy of the opening game.
26: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have lost 26 games over the last two seasons, the most of any NFL team in that time.
Joe will ice that cake by reminding folks that this team is 30-70 in its past 100 games. That’s difficult to fathom, but it is true.
When oh when will the losing end? Joe thinks that is at least a year away.
July 23rd, 2015 at 10:09 am
@ joe
did you read the deadspin article of “why your team sucks 2015”. I know that the series is supposed to incite fans into a riot!! But some of the points will hit home.
And you are right about being a year away from being competitive, if this year’s draft can pan out.
I am just glad at this point that most now realize that the roster had been garbage for years!!!
July 23rd, 2015 at 10:09 am
Maybe the incompetent head coach will win his first home game this year…. the legendary Lovie Smith is 0-8 at rayjay. But of course it’s not his fault or responsibility.
July 23rd, 2015 at 10:14 am
These people and this word incompetent. I see Dallas has quite a few disciples on this site. But like I told him on another article Lovie says hello guy and thanks for all the love. He’ll be here atleast ten years so we all look forward to hearing from you bright type that probably never even put on pads before for many years. Good job guy.👍👍s up.
July 23rd, 2015 at 10:15 am
The losing stops week 1.
July 23rd, 2015 at 10:15 am
Yeah. We have pretty much sunk back into that 80s/early 90s mode again. We’ve completely undone everything Dungy and Gruden built. Only difference is the uniform change made the Bucs WORSE this time.
July 23rd, 2015 at 10:17 am
Draft Mike Evans and then Jamies WINSton and hire Dirk Koetter. Hmm I’ll take that type of incompetence any day.
July 23rd, 2015 at 10:21 am
Sunk back into the 80s/90s? Really guy,gruden didn’t build anything for one. He brought an offense one in which he learned during his years as member of the 49ers staff. As for Dungy keep in my mind he won chip once he had a what? An ABOVE AVERAGE QB.
July 23rd, 2015 at 10:24 am
Whose next?
July 23rd, 2015 at 10:24 am
Building the offensive foundation for the future. Hope is here again!!!! Can’t wait for week 1!!
July 23rd, 2015 at 10:24 am
We are definitely in losing streak, but anyone who lived through the 80s 90s can see the difference. There was the 10-6 season in 2010 that wasn’t a fluke, We won games late in them, but thats what teams do. We lost a few close ones too. Also, the fact we can talk about this means its different. Back in 1995 no one knew what winning was like. We can still remember and are taking the steps to get out of it by drafting/ free a agency..
July 23rd, 2015 at 10:25 am
Nos Bos how do you do the little thumbs?
July 23rd, 2015 at 10:33 am
Nole…never reveal your secrets.
July 23rd, 2015 at 10:33 am
If you have an IPHONE, it’s a character on the emoji keyboard.
July 23rd, 2015 at 10:35 am
The picture reflects Matty Ice after finding out Koetter was given the boot! It’s THE MESSIAH’S turn to light up the NFC South. No more YUCS!
July 23rd, 2015 at 10:37 am
No. Predictable. Joe’s done with Deadspin. Hard to be outraged at everything every day every week every year. This McGary character, dude thinks he’s Sam Kinison and he’s about as funny as an outbreak of hives. Really forced bad humor.
July 23rd, 2015 at 10:39 am
@Nos-Bos
Dungy and Manning would not have a championship if they did not meet Lovie the passive coach that year in the superbowl. It is not a coincidence!!!
July 23rd, 2015 at 10:44 am
The losing ends this year. This team is to good to continue to lose. To many too’s.
July 23rd, 2015 at 10:46 am
I agree with you Joe about that website, But i did not like the NFL radio hosts on Sirius the other day, and I was there to see what a certain afternoon sports talk host topic’s were going to be, ( oops, did I just let the cat out of the bag there) But they railed Lovie in the piece!!!
July 23rd, 2015 at 10:49 am
NOSBOS…. 10 years of lovie…. cmon man he has been one of the most incompetant hcs since leeman bennett here in tampa… fire him and maybe jimbo is ready to roll the dice on the nfl level now that TPD has a substation at doak
July 23rd, 2015 at 11:00 am
Does this mean jpe has to spend another year living in contempo-toilet-mode. Poor guy. Losing is not fun but after a few months of gloom and doom, the up coming new season takes over and Hope begins to overtake gloom and bi game one the Super bowl is all that counts. Like gofers who spend fortunes returning to the links because of that one good shot, by camp optimism is alive and well, at least for me and those of us that have well balance lives.
July 23rd, 2015 at 11:06 am
this team has a lot of talent, has upgraded the QB position and might I add thought of as the best pro ready candidate since luck, a well respected and established OC and they are in the weakest division in the NFL. and also a pretty favorable schedule, no one knows what’s going to happen with injuries on our team as well as others, I say the losing stops and we will be competitive in dec, and maybe with a little bit of breaks here and there even challenging for the NFCS title. it is a new day in tampa town, embrace the siege!!!!
July 23rd, 2015 at 11:27 am
@87
We frequently disagree but we’re getting close to the same page. Your boy Jameis has me believing. Koetter at OC. A major revamp of attitude with young guys who haven’t been around for 30-70 except for GMC and it’s made him even hungrier.
The losing stops week 1.
Yes! And on a team like ours it will be critical. I do not believe we are as fragile as Schiano’s last year when the QB wasn’t elected a Captain and had all sorts of problems. Even with that though if LVD hadn’t been flagged for a silly play that had NO bearing on that game except for the penalty! The Bucs beat the Jets in New York and that entire season could have gone differently.
I just like the character on this team from top to bottom. 10-6 baby!!
July 23rd, 2015 at 11:30 am
IMO, 2015 is the year the Bucs turn the corner and become competitive again.
That may only mean 6,7 or 8 wins but we will be able to see the difference on the field.
If we are out of the playoff hunt again by Halloween – then it will be a major disappointment. I seriously doubt that will be the case though.
As ’87 said – the home field losing streak stops on Sept 13 vs the Titans.
July 23rd, 2015 at 11:47 am
Training camp is almost here. Time for evaluation:
1. Defense is dramatically improved.
2. Offense: wide receivers “outstanding.”
tight ends are above average
running backs are above average
offensive line is drastically improved
3. Offensive coordinator: a real difference maker
4. Special Teams: kicker is outstanding and punter yet to be determined.
5. Coaching Staff: organized after one year of working together and will be more focused in 2015.
For ALL the bloggers who continue to bad-mouth the BUCS, find another team to root for in 2015 and stay off Joe’s site!!!
Prediction: The BUCS are in the NFC South (still) division, therefore: 9 wins 7 losses for 2015 and a Wild-Card spot. GO BUCS!!!
July 23rd, 2015 at 11:56 am
I like the way you think Bill. What’s great is that even if all your individual predictions do not come true but 3 of 5 do we’ll hit your nine win mark.
July 23rd, 2015 at 12:05 pm
David thinks Joe is wrong. David thinks that Jameis will do what he has done every single game he has ever played in. David thinks Jameis will put his team in position to win each and every game. Our losses will be decided by poor 4th quarter play by other members of our team, mostly defense. Our wins will be stellar performances by Jameis in the 4th quarter. We won’t blow anyone out or have defensive shutouts, but we won’t lose nearly as many games as people predict. Give it 2 years and we are a Superbowl caliber team if Licht does his job.
July 23rd, 2015 at 12:14 pm
I am amazed that there are so many that are lining to drink the koolade this season. When will they learn? The smoke and mirrors of marketing hype do not work anymore for me…haven’t for several years. This is a shallow, weak, and will be ineffective collection of semi pro players in a league of BIG boys. When I went to the games last year the hype machine began before kickoff and was unrelenting throughout the game, not giving time for people to think of what they were watching…really bad play. This will be yet another non-competitive season.
July 23rd, 2015 at 12:21 pm
87 and Buc I love both out y’all man. Why y’all do me like that. And I know 87 commence to swinging your paddle now.
July 23rd, 2015 at 12:28 pm
And Realist!!! show me a headcoach winning a superbowl with Rex Grossman as his starting QB and the other headcoach has a future HOFer on his sideline. Really bro?
July 23rd, 2015 at 12:54 pm
I have high hopes for improvement this season, which isn’t saying all that much. I feel like going into last season compared to this one is somewhat opposite. We had high expectations last year which have been tempered by being the worst team last season.
Last year experts were saying we have arguably the strongest division all the way through and now people are trying to say we’re the worst. Which in no way do I believe is true, our division definitely got more competitive this off season.
Last year we said this defense will be fine but there was serious question marks on the mysterious tedford offense. This season to be honest I’m more worried about this defense and the fact that LVD is underutilized and safeties are a question mark. Also we have the emergence of ME13, Jameis, Koetter, a healthy ASJ, VJAX, a healthy hamster, and some young bucs on the line. This could be a formidable offense like it was in 2010 when Freeman was leading us to game winning drives.
I think we are finally on the verge of putting together a talented team with depth which takes some time. I agree with NosBos that lovie will be granted the time it takes to build a cha!mpionship caliber team, and it started with ME13 and now Jameis. God help us if it doesn’t pan out and we start with a new GM and Head coach. It would be rebuild all over with personnel for a Tampa 2 and who knows what scheme they run, what if its a 3-4?
Whatever happens this year it cant be any worse than last year’s xhit show and i am filled with optimism heading into this season. I am actually looking forward to games this year (gladly only went to one last year, the opener). Just having a possible franchise QB is enough for me to renew my season tickets. Can’t wait!!!! Go Bucs!!!!
July 23rd, 2015 at 1:12 pm
Article from Cheatsheet.com: 5 Best QBs to ever play College Football
1) Tim Tebow: Heisman and Nat’l Champ, 88 TDs and 16 INTs
2) Matt Leinart: Heisman and Nat’l Champ, 99 TDs and 23 INTs
3) Tommie Frazier: Heisman and Nat’l Champ, 43 TDs and 11 INTs
4) Charlie Ward: Heisman and Nat’l Champ, 49 TDs and 22 INTs
5) Danny Wuerffel: Heisman and Nat’l Champ, 114 TDs and 42 INTs
Jameis Winston: Heisman and Nat’l Champ, 65 TDs and 28 INTs
What could possibly go wrong?
tickrdr
July 23rd, 2015 at 1:15 pm
One correction: Tommie Frazier did not win the Heisman.
tickrdr
July 23rd, 2015 at 1:38 pm
How can any Buc fan be anything besides optimistic approaching a new season? Forget all that negativity about most of the past results. That is all history. The future is all that matters. Quit zapping the enthusiasm. A new beginning, a fresh start, now that’s potentially exciting.
July 23rd, 2015 at 1:51 pm
Dusty Rhodes stick around you’ll see for yourself. Keep telling y’all you do don’t draft Jamies and be on your way out the door. That’s lunacy. And please live Jimbo out of this,my program has been on the up swing since his arrival. I don’t need him going anywhere the recruiting is so sweet right now.
July 23rd, 2015 at 6:01 pm
nobo, been a bucs fan since 1978 as a little kid, watched nfl, college, high school football all the time, jameis is going to be a good one i think unfortunately lovie and licht are terrible… i think koetter is a huge upgrade if lovie doesnt mettle, time will tell, but 6-10 is the ceiling for the 2015 bucs
July 23rd, 2015 at 7:04 pm
We finish with around 9 or 10 wins mark my words!
July 23rd, 2015 at 7:22 pm
Ways to stop the losing
1-draft well consistently
2-keep star players healthy
3-hire a forward thinking NFL coach who adapts his system to the talent on the team
Which means the Bucs are a long way away from being winners. I’d love for Lovie to change. But as the Joes have written Lovie doesn’t change.
July 23rd, 2015 at 9:53 pm
And Pete Carroll’s team has represented the NFC in the superbowl the last two season’s by running the football and hard nose defense. What am I missing?
July 23rd, 2015 at 9:56 pm
Sup nole
July 23rd, 2015 at 11:07 pm
The Buc Realist Says:
“And you are right about being a year away from being competitive, if this year’s draft can pan out. ”
This is what I’ve been saying all along. Too many people think that newly drafted players excel out the gate. Doesn’t usually work like that.
July 24th, 2015 at 12:18 am
Nile-Pete and his front office draft well and develop players very well. Lovie has not been very good at drafting players even in his Chicago days. When has Lovie every had a offense or a decent o line?
If Seattle couldn’t get pressure with their line you think they wouldnt blitz a lb like Lavonte? Good coaches adapt their schemes to maximize the talent they have. Lovie doesn’t do that. It will be his downfall.
July 24th, 2015 at 1:55 am
Whus good wit ya 99. I see you homie.
July 24th, 2015 at 9:21 am
It won’t end with Lovie Smith, because he won’t keep his foot on the gas when things are going well. “We didn’t want to score any more points before the half.” is a recipe for continued losing.
July 24th, 2015 at 11:38 am
@tickrdr
It is dumb to imply a QB will be bad in the NFL because he was good in college.
@richBucsfan
Fans of 31 NFL teams are brimming with unbridled optimism For the 2015 season… And then there are Browns fans