The Countdown: Worst 20 Buccaneers Personnel Moves Of The Past 10 Years
July 7th, 2015
It’s the countdown feature you’ve all been waiting for. Not really, but on the heels of last year’s award-winning “20 Worst Buccaneers Of The Past 10 years” feature, Joe had to deliver.
A list like this is highly subjective and toxic. Fits of rage were common during production meetings at JoeBucsFan.com world headquarters. Scared interns soiled their pants. Full beer bottles were smashed, and a treasured Rachel Watson poster was accidently destroyed.
But order was restored and the countdown will begin tomorrow.
Bruce Allen, Jason Licht and former Bucs rockstar general manager Mark Dominik might not like what’s coming, but it had to be done. This is what happens when your team is 30-70 in its last 100 games.
Presenting this list will be healing for Joe, a cleansing of sorts before diving into the hopeful new era when training camp begins in a few weeks, the era of America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston.
July 7th, 2015 at 10:12 am
I know getting Revis won’t be on this countdown list, though it should be. If not, that blunder would probably fall in at number 21.
July 7th, 2015 at 10:15 am
Giving up a 1st round pick to basically just rehab a guy definitely deserves a spot.
Also, last year’s list won an award?
July 7th, 2015 at 10:22 am
The hiring of Mark Dominick…..and you can probably place about 7 or 8 of the twenty because of him.
July 7th, 2015 at 10:29 am
Good God! smh
Only Bucs fans would consider trading a first round pick (if you look at Bucs history, fourth round picks are garbage) for a Hall of Famer in his prime to be a bad move.
Do you know of any sober person claiming the Patriots signing Revis was one of their worst moves in 10 years??? Insanity!
Stop!
July 7th, 2015 at 10:41 am
Not bringing Micah back on the cheer squad needs to be a top five personnel decision blunder
July 7th, 2015 at 10:46 am
1) Firing Jon Gruden
2-20) The resulting mess
July 7th, 2015 at 10:49 am
firing revis.
July 7th, 2015 at 10:50 am
@Joe
For most, hindsight is 20/20. In hindsight, what did we get out of trading a first round pick for a future hall of famer in his prime? Nada! A few exciting plays. Please don’t say it helped lead into the chase for Jameis because there is no way of knowing.
Either trading for him or letting him go should be on the list in my opinion. Either way with the coaching and GM change this never played itself out or never should have been.
July 7th, 2015 at 10:51 am
Something tells me that passing on Kuechly to draft the robber Barron won’t be on the list because the Joes like to say that drafting Kuechly would’ve meant we don’t draft LaVonte
But I would put that very very very high on the list….throw in drafting Gaines Adams over Adrian Peterson as well
July 7th, 2015 at 10:51 am
Number one personnel blunder for the Bucs was naming Mark “Rock Star” Dominik as GM… He was instrumental in helping this franchise suck for over a decade…
July 7th, 2015 at 10:57 am
I hope this exercise helps you with your problems, Joe. It’s pretty lame for the rest of us, if not downright, ahhhhhh forget it.
July 7th, 2015 at 11:04 am
Joe
You crazy! Giving up two picks and 16 mil a year for 2 Ints and a bunch of TDs against him. Oh don’t get me started. By far one of the most crippling moves in recent history not to mention the jets used our 1st rnd pick to grab a pro-bowler.
Watching Kenny stills burn Revis was the cherry on top of the cake. And please don’t make me post all the highlights.
Difference between us and the pats is that he actually wanted to play for the pats not rob them bling like he did the bucs.
July 7th, 2015 at 11:07 am
The revis move should appear twice… once for trading a 1 and 4 to rehab a guy then again for cutting him once finally healthy to sign av, m johnson and a collins.
July 7th, 2015 at 11:07 am
#1 is firing gruden to hire rah morris
July 7th, 2015 at 11:28 am
Letting Revis walk was the #1 worst move. Unless of course the plan was for the Bucs to draft Jameis Winston before the season even started.
July 7th, 2015 at 11:34 am
To all of you bitching about aquiring Revis
You now officially have no clue about Pro football.
He improved our lousy secondary 500%
Also graded out as number one cornerback that season- for the Zombies claiming he was “rehabbing”
His tutor ledge of Banks salvaged that player.
The bad move, was losing him. We had the money to pay him.
Or maybe you clueless lil zombies didn’t watch Verner last year, along With our inadequate safeties
Sometimes, the mounds of stupid here take your breath away
July 7th, 2015 at 11:36 am
Yeah Joe…..”Revis Island” was really impressive and totally worth it.
NOT!
It was a bad move.
So please Joe…..you stop the insanity.
Oh, and this is an award winning post……because I say so.
July 7th, 2015 at 11:42 am
Some try to logically explain how getting Revis was a bad move? I’ll wait…
July 7th, 2015 at 11:48 am
I think it was a bad move to let Revis go. But nothing to compared to Lovie gifting starting gigs to the new FA’s. McClown, Jenkins, Colllins etc.
For what they gave up to get him, and then cut him loose is mind boggling to me.
July 7th, 2015 at 11:52 am
Sometimes I think the Glazer boys just enjoy throwing money away.
July 7th, 2015 at 12:00 pm
I feel like Joe defends the Revis move as if it is happening this year or based upon the logic of it and the time. This list is going to be totally hindsight based I would assume; and in hindsight the move was absolutely terrible in terms of the net impact on the team. net impact was losing 16 million that year and a good draft picks and having nothing to show for it the year he played and in the subsequent year after cutting him. It was a win-now move that failed terribly. Who knows what talented 1st rounder could be on this team now still on their rookie deal. There is no argument anyone can make about that move being positive unless it’s part of the reason we got rid of the last regime which still puts it in bad light
July 7th, 2015 at 12:13 pm
Does anyone remember what Ted Ginn did to Revis? How about Fitzgerald doing him dirty for a TD too? The list goes on. He should have never been signed for that much.
July 7th, 2015 at 12:17 pm
Jets got a rookie of the year with that pick
July 7th, 2015 at 12:18 pm
Ted Ginn: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QidPtefXv5c
Fitzgerald: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_sEIQ61fXHM
July 7th, 2015 at 12:22 pm
Letting Bennett walk for nothing must be in the top 3
July 7th, 2015 at 12:34 pm
Even though injuries shorted the careers of a few of the guys, I’d easily add the following people below somewhere on that list. But Dexter Jackson (from App. State) was the hands down the worst draft pick and player within the past 10 years.
Mark Barron
Arrelious Benn
Maurice Stovall
Brian Price
July 7th, 2015 at 12:35 pm
Joe I’m sorry but you are totally misguided on the Revis thing.
We traded a #1 pick (who just happened to be DROY) for a CB who we paid 16 MILLION! To rehab his knee for a year! We could have signed 3 CBs for that price, and had a nasty DL for years to anchor our line.
This was a terrible move. Revis didn’t want to be a Buc, he wanted to get as much $$$ as possible while he rehabbed his knee. And Dom was the idiot who fell for it.
Terrible, terrible personnel move.
July 7th, 2015 at 12:38 pm
The Revis move made sense at the time, the secondary was one of the worse in the NFL before he arrived. The problem was the coaching staff was fired the following year and the new regime didn’t want him. That didn’t make picking up Revis a terrible decision that it made getting rid of him so soon after giving up so much a bad decision. I can’t put that one on Domink.
July 7th, 2015 at 12:40 pm
** (Correction) That didn’t make picking up Revis a terrible decision that made getting rid of him so soon after giving up so much a bad decision.
July 7th, 2015 at 12:40 pm
If Joe is going to argue about the Revis move being good because of what it looked like at the time; we could argue that other FA aquisitions were good at the time before they failed.
Anthony Collins had had stellar play in the NFL. In theory; he was more proven at LT than anything in the draft. Not giving up a sack in a lot of games played. He had NFL tape and it looked good. Signing him at the time wasn’t a bad move if you look at it like that.
Josh McCown lit it up in his playing time in Chicago. Michael Johnson had great pressure numbers and general stats coming from CIncy and was one of the top DEs available according to pretty much all the NFL experts.
So because Johnson was rated the top DE by everyone available; does he get a pass like Revis because Revis had his All Pro reputation?
Revis didn’t play as badly as either of those guys for us; but he wasn’t the top corner in the game like he used to be. We grossly overpaid for his rental production both in $$ and in draft picks. I have NO IDEA how he graded as the top corner in whatever site Tiny Tim is looking at. He was not the same Revis as he was in his prime that year.
July 7th, 2015 at 12:44 pm
Ty lord corn cuz I was about to go off. Ty sir.
July 7th, 2015 at 12:44 pm
“Only Bucs fans would consider trading a first round pick (if you look at Bucs history, fourth round picks are garbage) for a Hall of Famer in his prime to be a bad move.”
For four wins… and he was gone in a year. Yeah… bad move.
July 7th, 2015 at 12:48 pm
unbelievable …here’s the problem with your analogy. I agree that that they should have never signed him for that dollar amount, but since they did, why give him away for nothing?
Remember they did let him go and it freed up 16 million dollars. Then they went shopping for new players and what did they get? Mostly garbage.
I guess it depends on who’s doing the shopping.
Btw Joe you’re doing a bang up Joe lately keeping us all entertained during this offseason. You’re site is still hopping despite no football being played or practiced.
July 7th, 2015 at 12:56 pm
We had Steve Young!
July 7th, 2015 at 1:01 pm
Big Irish ….Within the past 10 Years?
July 7th, 2015 at 1:10 pm
Enough about Revis. I remember specifically myself and Hawaiian riding the sign Revis wagon. The blunder wasn’t trading for Revis. It was the “genius” contract that Dominik set up. Sure, it was cap friendly but it all but guaranteed Revis would be a 1 year rental. Even then, Revis would have been tempted if we came to the table with a reasonable contract but Lovie and co. decided to go the cheaper Verner route. Nothing against Verner but that is apples and oranges. Meanwhile, we end up having a bunch of cash available when it could have been spent shutting down one side of the field. I personally think Dominik’s contract was one of the stupidest contracts for a shut down once in a generation corner. The Bucs franchise has had oodles of salary cap room for a decade now and we continue to try to edge every contract in a cap friendly ending. Well, those conservative contracts have a lot to do with why players aren’t interested in playing here and our team has sucked for a decade.
July 7th, 2015 at 1:38 pm
Big Irish Says:
July 7th, 2015 at 12:56 pm
We had Steve Young!
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The Steve Young that the Bucs had wasn’t the same guy that he became later in his career after having the opportunity to sit behind Montana for 4 years and learning how to become a pocket passer.
July 7th, 2015 at 1:59 pm
Traded 2 first round picks and 2 second round picks in for a coach (Jon Gruden) and then fired him for not winning the Super Bowl every year after winning one Super Bowl because he didn’t have the depth to continue that success with an aging team that had no 1st or 2nd round picks.
Carl Nicks, Donald Penn, Jeromy Zuttah, Anthony Collins, Oneil Cousins, Gabe Carimi
July 7th, 2015 at 2:28 pm
if the 2009 offseason doesn’t have at least 5 top-20 moments, i’ll be surprised. my personal favs were the mike clayton contract extension, and tapping the injury prone SS jermaine phillips to start and replace a hall of famer at a position he had never played before. 3 moves from the first licht\smith offseason deserve to make the cut………….unless you believe that the tank job for Winston\Mariota started in the preseason.
July 7th, 2015 at 3:57 pm
This is one of the problems with Buc team/fans. They focus on the past and the negatives too often. If they ever was a time to stop doing this you would think the Jameis era would be it. This dude is so confident and positive. Hopefully it will rub off on the team, fans and media who cover them so the idea of dwelling on bad choices of the past doesn’t seem like a good idea.
July 7th, 2015 at 4:35 pm
Firing gruden should be a clear #1, for a franchise that would win a lot of awards in the category of terrible personell moves
July 7th, 2015 at 4:41 pm
@Capt Tim
BUT HOW DID IT TURN OUT?
I was all for it at the time but half assing it due to the regime change or whatever other reason should definitely put this on the list
July 7th, 2015 at 5:00 pm
@87, I actually totally agree with you on that.
Signing was a bad move, giving him up for nothing was equally bad, if not more considering who we signed with that money.
The problem was that no one would trade for his contract, b/c he was so grossly overpaid. We just never should have done it in the first place. Not for that money. Our secondary was terrible, but there were plenty of other CBs out there that year in FA.
July 7th, 2015 at 5:28 pm
Can’t wait for the majority of this list to be compiled by moves by the Rockstar!!!
Joe let’s stop with the Mis guided defense of the Revis deal. He was coming off a major injury. The Bucs were the only team bidding for the trade and we give up a first rounder? Only way the trade would’ve been good is if the Bucs got the old Revis. But they didn’t.
#1 on the list should be Allen and Gruden passing on Rodgers after telling him the night before they were taking him.
July 7th, 2015 at 5:30 pm
Not a bad personnel decision, but a bad decision by personnel: getting rid of the Disney pirate song to signal a ship giveaway in favor of whatever crap they’ve got going on now.
July 7th, 2015 at 5:38 pm
Mark Dominik, step on down! You’re the next contestant on “The Price is Right”. Holy sh!t, thank you Joe(s) for putting this together. This is exactly what the Dr. ordered. We need to learn from our mistakes, and embrace the terrible recent history of the Bucs. 30-70 is god awful, just ask Fran Tarkenton.
Dominik screwed out pooch. His 5 years sank the ship.
Two moves that should’ve happened already:
1. HDTV scoreboard TVs
2. Sign Evan Mathis
We are who we thought we were right no, and that is the worst of the worst.
July 7th, 2015 at 7:11 pm
– Firing Gruden
– Treating Derrick Brooks like yesterday’s old moldy lunch
– Michael Clayton contract
– Drafting Barron instead of Kuechly
– paying Collins, Johnson and McCown $30M combined in 1 year for their “services” leading us to 2-14.
– Paying too much FOR Revis and TO Revis simultaneously. A bad combo.
– TWO 4th round picks for Luke Stocker.
– Drafting Dexter Jackson in the 2nd round while passing on Desean Jackson
– Hanging onto Myron Lewis for 4 years
– Dom not drafting an OLine player for 5 years straight – his entire tenure
– Hiring Greg Schiano
– promoting Rah from position coach to Head Coach
– Fielding the lowest paid roster in the entire NFL for 8 straight years
– The New Uniforms make even good players look like clowns
– Worst drafting in the league for a bunch of years straight by both Allen and Dom – netting all these stellar high picks going back to 2004:
Barron, A. Clayborne, DaQuan Bowers, Brian Price, Arrelious Benn, Marvin Lewis, Josh Freeman, (the bad) Dexter Jackson, Gaines Adams, Aaron Sears, Sabby Piscatelli, Jeremy Trueblood, Mo Stovall, Alex Smith, Chris Comer, Michael Clayton, Marquise Cooper
July 7th, 2015 at 8:08 pm
Anyone who thinks trading for Revis was bad move needs to quit embarrassing themselves and stop commenting.
Or confess they need to layoff the sauce. Really.
July 7th, 2015 at 8:41 pm
Joe, I think what was left out wasnt that we traded a first round pick for Revis it was that we let him go the next year for nothing. To trade a number one pick for a player and not sign him to a multiyear deal is the way up there on stupidity list for personnel moves but I vote for promoting Raheem to Defensive Coordinator and then Head Coach in the same week when there were plenty of qualified candidates out there. Why?? Becuase the Broncos interviewed him LOL what a total joke worst move ever!!!!!!
July 7th, 2015 at 8:43 pm
Sorry guys. Sometimes, Joe gets too emotional talking Bucs. Hoping you can understand. 🙂
Was too harsh earlier.
July 7th, 2015 at 9:56 pm
The Revis Trade was the worst trade in history of the Buccaneers. What they gave up, for what they got was a travesty.
July 7th, 2015 at 10:28 pm
If McCown is not #1 on this list with Michael Johnson right behind him then the exercise is fraudulent and a waste of everyone’s time. You could easily fill the top 5 with moves made last year by incompetent Lovie Smith and his lapdog GM.
July 7th, 2015 at 10:30 pm
Getting rid of Revis to pay for the wasted roster spots of trash like McCown, Johnson and Collins is the real travesty of the Revis era.
July 7th, 2015 at 11:26 pm
Letting Michael Bennett walk in free agency has to be somewhere at the top of the list.
July 7th, 2015 at 11:54 pm
No Need to cuddle them.
Sometimes- the stupidity on some topics is just too ridiculous to tolerate. It becomes an embarrassment to the site, the Team, the town, and the Game
Anyone who doesn’t understand that, getting the best player in the league at his position- for a miserly first round pick- doesn’t understand any element of the game. Nothing. By saying that was a.bad deal- simply poves that they dont understand the game, and only parrot what they hear.
Patriot fans rejoiced over aquiring Revis, and credit him a great deal for the newest trophy
The worst team in the league’s (league history?’) fans cry over money and a couple lousy picks- from a team that can’t draft!
It’s embarrassing. . Sometimes I think there’s a reason this team is one of the biggest losers in organized sports history!
It reflects a lot of its fan base
July 8th, 2015 at 12:08 am
Disagree w you 100% Joe,
That whole Revis era was a mistake. Saying that trading for him looked good at the time is as misguided as saying it was good at the time to let him walk after a year for nothing (both of which I know u agreed upon)… and that’s how this franchise continues to chase it’s tail. Throwing away that first rd pick for a rental player to rehab is knee on a team that was NOT a CB-away from being a championship team was down right irresponsible and was all but the nail in Dom’s coffin!
So we will continue to pay for Dom’s poor first rd decisions for years to come.
It’s seriously horrible personnel decisions like that create a bad football team… name me a good franchise that makes those kind of errors and can rebound.
July 8th, 2015 at 12:11 am
You should just put “2014” on this list Joe to encompass all that was that fuster cluck last year Joe
July 8th, 2015 at 1:16 am
Joe Says:
July 7th, 2015 at 8:43 pm
“Sorry guys. Sometimes, Joe gets too emotional talking Bucs. Hoping you can understand. 🙂
Was too harsh earlier.”
I never get too emotional when talking about the Bucs. (sarcasm)
July 8th, 2015 at 5:14 am
Me neither(sarcasm)
July 8th, 2015 at 5:50 am
I don’t get the defense of the Revis trade. Dude is good but was coming off a major injury. There were questions if he’d play week 1. From all accounts of the trade Dom was negotiating against himself! Never heard of another team bidding or seriously considering the deal.
I’m not even factoring in the crazy amount of money they paid a cb. The only way it would’ve been a good deal for the Bucs is if Revis was the old Revis or he was here for 3-4 years. But he was neither so it was a bad deal
July 8th, 2015 at 12:18 pm
It’s embarrassing. . Sometimes I think there’s a reason this team is one of the biggest losers in organized sports history!
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Because some of fans make dumb comments?
Really?
Nothing to do with the Glazers being aloof and terrible owners?
I’m well aware that most of the chronic commenters here are media
types who risk their livelihoods by criticizing the soccer brats,
but try to be marginally sane when you hypothesize reasons
why the Bucs epic suckage is endless.
Pickgrin is the only set of testes in this entire comment section.
He hit the collective nails on the head. Props to him for keeping
it real (obviously he doesn’t have a Bucs media job to lose).
The goodness or badness of the Revis trade is obscured by the
way the Bucs used him: He was incrediably expensive. The year
he was here he was rehabbing. The next year L&L sold their
4 million dollar rolls royce for a handful of magic beans just so
they could stop making payments.
July 8th, 2015 at 2:48 pm
… tell us what u really think Howard
July 9th, 2015 at 2:43 am
Howard Cosell
Do me a favor. Don’t ever presume to alter my quotes, in order to make yourself a cute lil post
Go back and read it again . . . And again- until your dim comprehension skills are able to grasp what I said, instead of what your empty head thought I said.
And don’t post partial quotes from me again, either. You lack the intelligence to edit me.
And by the way, the year that Revis spent here “Rehabbing”? He was the top ranked Cornerback in the entire league.
Read that again- the year Revis played here- he was the top ranked Cornerback in the NFL.
What you’ve done- is what all idiots do. They want to talk about things, that they nothing about. So they read what one total idiot wrote, and then say it themselves- mentally on the level of a parrot.
Revis wasn’t “rehabbing”, he was dominating. Just like always.
Certainly worth 2 draft picks- from a stupid team that can’t draft
Instead of posting partial quotes, and then misinterpreting them( because you are stupid)
Or regurgitating nonsense from other morons( because you are stupid)
Why not try actually reading the post, watching the games, and posting an original thought?? Unless you are too stupid
Any questions?
July 9th, 2015 at 9:18 am
That’s a lot of internet bravado and name calling
just to argue about whether or not Revis was rehabbing.
I have to ask just out of genuine concern for your emotional
stability: Are you mad , bro?
That said, Revis himself stated that he was rehabbing during his
year with the Bucs and I could be mistaken but even Revis is
adversely effected by knee surgury. He graded out as the best
corner in the NFL that year, but all that means is Revis at 80%
is better than all the other corners at 100%. Predictably the
very next year he won a superbowl (when he wasn’t rehabbing).
Also, you’re being a little hypocritical accusing me of taking you
out of context. I said Revis was expensive, that doesn’t imply
lack of value. I basically agree with you about Revis, so you’re
shelling an ally in that respect.
My issue with your post, or any similar posts, is that it is absurd
(to use your vernacular “idiotic”) to say the stupid fan base is
responsible for the state of the team.
Please explain the phyics behind that statement and try to realize
that I’m your friend. I’m here for you.