Mike Glennon Mob In Mourning
July 31st, 2015
For the third time in a year and a half, the Mike Glennon Mob has absorbed a punch to the gut, courtesy of Bucs coach Lovie Smith today.
The most fateful day of personnel moves in the past 10 years came last year, when Lovie, fresh from his suburban Chicago basement, brought in turnover-prone Josh McClown to lead the Bucs (to the basement). Lovie announced he was benching the inherited starter, Glennon.
The Mike Glennon Mob was stunned.
Meanwhile, Lovie confidently claimed Glennon was the “quarterback of the future,” which seemed to be nothing more than publicly mocking the Mike Glennon Mob.
Later, when McClown looked as hopeless and hapless as Joe feared a career journeyman could, Glennon took over when McClown was hurt in the debacle in Atlanta. Glennon promptly led the Bucs to the franchise’s first win in Pittsburgh, with a stirring late-game rally that went the distance of the field, a feat rarely seen by Bucs quarterbacks.
Glennon’s reward? He was benched by Lovie again when McClown got healthy.
After Tampa Bay drafted “America’s Quarterback,” Jameis Winston, to save the franchise, Lovie gave every indication that the starting job wasn’t Jameis’ quite yet, and Glennon was given ample time practicing with the first team in underwear football. That speculation ended today when Lovie knighted Jameis the starting quarterback, effectively guaranteeing Lovie a return in 2016 no matter this season’s outcome.
Right now, Lovie is the most hated man in the world to the Mike Glennon Mob.
Glennon’s days in Tampa Bay are numbered. Is he an effective backup? Sure is. For a team desperate for a quarterback (hello Rex Ryan), Glennon just might fetch a pretty decent draft pick, maybe higher than the third round he was selected in by former Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik.
Now we will see how savvy Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht is on the trade market. The Bucs simply have way, way too many holes to have a decent backup quarterback who never again sees the field — you hope. Think the Cardinals could have used Glennon last year, when they were signing slugs off the street in a desperate attempt to find anyone who could throw?
The struggle to land Ohio State defensive end/beast Joey Bosa begins with trading Glennon, stocking up on draft picks, and trading up next spring.
July 31st, 2015 at 2:34 pm
Glennon does fit what Bruce Arian defines as a quarterback
July 31st, 2015 at 2:38 pm
I think Glennon is a good QB who turned out to be better than Josh Freeman. That said, I agree with your line of thinking Joe. The Bucs are absolutely *not* playoff bound this year so there isn’t a need to have a solid backup QB on the roster. Trading Glennon to get value back would be a smart decision by the Bucs. I hope they don’t give him away. He’s one of the best backup QBs in the NFL and there are a number of teams who need depth at that position.
July 31st, 2015 at 2:41 pm
I repeat, with a questionable O-line. What if J.W. goes down?
July 31st, 2015 at 2:50 pm
Joe, I think you are intentionally trying to start trouble.
First of all, let’s accept the following fact. All of us as Bucs fans, have certain players we like. It may be Jackson over Evans, Lavonte over McCoy, Muscle Hamster over Rainey and Jameis over Glennon. But that’s just pulling for your favorite player.
The bottom line is we would love for Jameis to lead the team to 10+ wins. Or for Glennon to lead us to 10+ wins. we may all have our personal preferences, but none of us are going to be unhappy with success. We’ve suffered through the dreadful failures and now we need to have the best 11 on the field, to change those losses to wins.
So, the Mike Glennon mob or the Jameis jabbernokies are first and foremost fans of the team and supporters of the decisions made by the coaches (at least starting out).
July 31st, 2015 at 2:51 pm
Another 2 or 3 wins and Lovie is out of here. To think he is safe, despite seeing Schiano fired after doing a MUCH better job than Lovie has so far is moronic. But aye, wouldn’t be the first time the Joe’s have been wrong. As much as I bash Incompetent Lovie. I do hope he can earn a much better nickname this year. Judging by last year though I doubt he will. GO BUCS!!!
July 31st, 2015 at 2:56 pm
Exactly D-Rome.
July 31st, 2015 at 3:00 pm
Get ready to buy your Joey Bosa jersey in May.
July 31st, 2015 at 3:01 pm
Nice article there General. So If Winston does fall on his face I can guarantee who the fist one to turn tail and run will be. And who he will be followed by. Just don’t try to use the oline,no running game or he is just a rookie. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. I myself don’t care as long as the best players that give us the best chance to win play. Remember stats are for losers? The only stat I want to see are wins.
July 31st, 2015 at 3:08 pm
“What’s good for the goose….” means the same rules should apply for men and women. Jameis will be a star. Don’t strain yourselves leaping back aboard the bandwagon
July 31st, 2015 at 3:08 pm
1 word
DENIAL
July 31st, 2015 at 3:17 pm
Wow tval. How smart you are! Or did you have to look that up?
July 31st, 2015 at 3:21 pm
Lovie is an excellent NFL coach, which he has proven over the years in the league.
I expect big improvement in his second year, just as happened in his second year of coaching the bears.
July 31st, 2015 at 3:31 pm
Man BucFan20. Are you always this negative and condescending? What a tool!!!!!
July 31st, 2015 at 3:56 pm
Eric
Lovie is a mediocre head coach soon to be BELOW .500 coach… How is that excellent… His last back to back playoff appearance was in 2005/2006 nearly 10 YEARS ago and he has only won 1 playoff game since. This is his 11 year by the way as a head coach… Again, how is that great / excellent or proven… please raise your standards. His lifetime playoff record is 3-3 again how is that excellent… Lovie is laughable not legendary.
July 31st, 2015 at 3:57 pm
glennon is irrelevant to the bucs future with the exception of the mid round pick they will receive for him.
July 31st, 2015 at 4:02 pm
Hey Joe, or anybody. Why trade Glennon for a 3rd or 4th rd pick (these picks have 50% fail rate) when you have an o- line that could get your starting qb hurt at any minute. Qb is said to be most important position. Why trade a good backup with experience? Don’t get logic..
July 31st, 2015 at 4:08 pm
Brent
a team that is not in contention for a playoff spot and if full of holes like the current roster is they can’t afford to keep a backup that may have trade value. simple as that… Glennon can be replaced by any scrub.
July 31st, 2015 at 4:15 pm
@chipbuc
If you can’t figure it out you are clueless. Let’s just say tval’s response about what I said. Geico made commercial and a man wishing for a million bucks. Ever see it?
July 31st, 2015 at 4:15 pm
Glennon can be replaced by any scrub.
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Another incorrect statement because if that were true then he would of been… Keep em coming. I’m here to correct you!
July 31st, 2015 at 4:21 pm
Totally disagree! Bucs need to focus on winning every game and being a competitive franchise. Going 2-14 and 4-12 is suicide for a franchise. Blackouts and no fan turnouts are soon to follow. Glennon was ranked 2nd best backup in the league by experts. Qb is easily the most important position. Glennon can win games unlike a scrub qb. You guys who think these 4th rd picks are soooo valuable crack me up! Go check out bust rate of these guys. Bucs need to focus on winning every game and not sucking to get a top 3 pick dreams.
July 31st, 2015 at 4:21 pm
Give them what they want. Bring back Freeman!
July 31st, 2015 at 4:31 pm
Brent Says:
Why trade a good backup with experience? Don’t get logic..
That’s because there is no logic involved, Brent.
The argument goes like this: “The Bucs won’t make the playoffs, so we don’t need to worry about our QB getting injured because it won’t affect our chances. Therefore we can trade away a good backup QB for a draft pick so that we can compete next year.”
You see, the first step is to assume that the Bucs are going to lose. They are planning for failure, not success. Kinda odd for “fans” of the team, don’t you think?
However, they fail to follow through to the logical conclusion of their starting assumption. If we have no chance of winning, then why play at all? We could just forfeit all 16 games, assuring us of the first draft pick while also ensuring no injuries. Is that a great idea or what?
July 31st, 2015 at 4:31 pm
I still dont understand the reasoning of complaining that we dont have any depth, then wanting to sacrifice the little bit of good depth we have for unproven depth… Makes no sense to me.
July 31st, 2015 at 4:33 pm
Mike Glennon is going nowhere. If the Bucs had wanted to trade they would have done so before or during the draft. Maybe next year if they bring someone in who learns the system and is a capable backup.
July 31st, 2015 at 4:35 pm
You are a 2-14 team. There are much bigger needs than a guy who you hope never, ever plays. If a backup can fetch a decent starter (or draft picks that you can use as part of a package to trade up in the draft), that’s a no-brainer. Especially for the worst team in the NFL.
Having a good backup who never plays will not get a team to the playoffs.
July 31st, 2015 at 4:35 pm
NaplesBucFan
when you have an incompetent head coach who is too stubborn to adapt to the players he has of course the intelligent fans will assume the losses will continue to mount. after all Lovie did take a bad team and make it worse not to mention captaining the squad to 2 of the most embarrassing defeats (blowouts) in league history…. 6 wins max… sorry it hurts me too but reality sucks.
July 31st, 2015 at 4:51 pm
Having a good backup who never plays will not get a team to the playoffs.
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That can be said for any position. Thats assuming Winston stays healthy all year every year. If thats the case then we dont need any depth, just studs across the board…
July 31st, 2015 at 4:51 pm
Glennon is a good QB
But may only ever be a Back up QB at best
Will make $687,188 this year for his efforts
This is the third year of his four year $3.14 MILLION Contract
I would love to be an NFL back up QB
Play the game you love and get paid MILLION$$$$$
(see – Bruce Gradkowski – entering year ten in the NFL as the Pittsburgh Steeler backup QB and will make $1.55 Million this year)
Yeah, tough life huh
July 31st, 2015 at 4:53 pm
tmaxcon Says:
when you have an incompetent head coach…
So you want that coach you deem incompetent to trade away a good player for one of his choosing? Good thinking!
Joe Says:
You are a 2-14 team.
No, we are a 0-0 team. Undefeated, baby! We haven’t been eliminated from the playoffs yet.
July 31st, 2015 at 5:26 pm
To me it reads like Joe likes to trash Glennon, to stop any support of MG by Buc fans who think better of his abilities and worth to the team. Then the haters gang up to dish more negatives.
July 31st, 2015 at 5:39 pm
Let’s start where we all agree and then move into the debate.
QB is absolutely, beyond a shadow of a doubt, the MOST IMPORTANT position on the team! Does anybody dispute that?
OK now how many teams have had to use their backup for a game or two or more? Even giant studs like Cam Newton go down.
I maintain that a PROVEN backup at the cheap dollars of Glennon is far, far more valuable than a 3 round draft pick. When the starters start to fall on other teams THEN we mght get an offer we can’t refuse.
Meantime what is the alternative. Are you really ready to pisss away another 5 million on Mark Sanchez? Jason Campbell? On NFL.com Mike Glennon is the second ranked backup in the entire league…behind Mark Sanchez. I’ll take Glennon.
At some point we’ll have to make the calculation…at least Licht will have to make the calculation as to when we HAVE to let MG8 go because he wants a chance to start somewhere else.
We don’t need to be in such a freaking hurry. He will bring more than a 3rd round pick. And yes we ARE a playoff team THIS YEAR! 10-6 baby!!!
July 31st, 2015 at 5:47 pm
Naples, this is still a very bad football team with a ton of holes. A 4-12 team with a brand new number one overall pick at QB does not need to worry about having a decent back up. Glendon is not that great of a back up to begin with. If we can get a 4th rounder or better for him we need to take it and simply hope the pick pans out. We need starters.
July 31st, 2015 at 5:50 pm
I’m saying I’d rather have good backup qb who can win vs a 3-4 th rd pick. Check out these 3rd 4th rd picks gholson spence I can’t even name the o-lineman we drafted in 13 cause he never played. Backups all! Qb is an essential position. With that crappy o-line Winston could get hurt at any time. I still want to have a chance to win with my backup qb. Mg gives you a shot. This always building for future mentality blows my mind. Reminds me of all those guys who wanted to dump vjax for a 3rd rd pick? Lets just play to lose and load up on marginal mid round picks. Dump all our proven veterans. I’d rather watch figure skating than that team!!!
July 31st, 2015 at 5:56 pm
Love the thought, Joe
And getting Bosa would be like a dream.
Buuut
Glennon is a slug.
No mote
July 31st, 2015 at 6:10 pm
Glennon should not be confused with being a superstar, but the young QB is adequate. Glennon could win games for “good” teams. Unfortunately, our o-Line was dog shat last year to say the least.
Glennon should be the backup, and the fact that Joe (Lee?) is hyping the “Glennon Mob” shows their genuine concern for our backup QB, bc he is adequate.
Week 1 cd the Titans can’t come soon enough. Winston vs. Mariota, and more exciting for me: Bostad vs. Warhop- Schiano Man vs. Lovie’s hand picked coach.
July 31st, 2015 at 6:15 pm
Capt. Tim,
Glennon may not be the most athletic, or prettiest QB to play the game, but the young man is reliable and works hard with some potential.
Freeman was not reliable. He busted and tried to sink the Buccaneer ship with him. I hope he does well with his second chance, but he is not a QB you could consider reliable towards their team, our team.
I only ever wanted Glennon to play because I could see Josh Freeman’s fall from grace sooner than some of the posters on here (the Freemanites).
July 31st, 2015 at 6:21 pm
It was so obvious man
July 31st, 2015 at 6:28 pm
As for Josh McCown, we will see how he does with the Browns. What I saw last year at RayJay was a QB who, when given even a minimum of blocking, looked pretty good. The rest of the time he spent the game on his back or running for his life.
As for Glennon, he is s.l.o.w., really SLOW afoot. Without an OL he has no chance.
July 31st, 2015 at 6:31 pm
CouchFan
Having a good backup who never plays will not get a team to the playoffs.
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That can be said for any position. Thats assuming Winston stays healthy all year every year. If thats the case then we dont need any depth, just studs across the board…
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Your logic in this matter is extremely flawed. QB and Kickers are the exception to this rule. Every other position on the field requires rest time and replacement during the course of a game. How many times have you seen a healthy starting quarterback get subbed out of a game??
Keep on playing devils advocate and showing your true lack of knowledge on the game.
July 31st, 2015 at 7:25 pm
I think Glennon will be a much improved QB this year because he is finally getting the top notch coaching he’s never had since he was drafted. Koetter is acknowledged as a top OC with the ability to coach up and get the most out of his QB’s, a big plus for both Winston and Glennon. Whether MG8 is traded next year or is here until he becomes a FA at the end of 2016 remains to be seen but I have no doubt that he will be starting for some NFL team in the not too distant future.
July 31st, 2015 at 7:26 pm
JBF created the abomination that is the MGM… these Schiano backing, Lovie bashing twig-dickin little fa**ots… overtaking these message boards for the last few years…
When we finally trade away the last relic from the New Schiano Order, we can finally move on to this New Winston Era..
Die Slow MGM… die slow…
July 31st, 2015 at 7:36 pm
JBF created the abomination that is the MGM… these Schiano backing, Lovie bashing twig-dickin reach arounders… overtaking these message boards for the last few years…
When we finally trade away the last relic from the New Schiano Order, we can finally move on to the New Winston Era..
Die Slow MGM… die slow…
July 31st, 2015 at 7:44 pm
Back up qbs play all the time. What?? Cardinals jets Philly Carolina St. Louis Washington all had qbs go down.
July 31st, 2015 at 7:59 pm
“For a team desperate for a quarterback (hello Rex Ryan), Glennon just might fetch a pretty decent draft pick, maybe higher than the third round…”
Just how many 2nd round picks has Licht acquired in his entire career?
Zero.
I think he MIGHT have gotten a 3rd once.
July 31st, 2015 at 8:21 pm
I’m with you Joe. We could stock up on picks to trade up in next years draft to get a stud DE. At some point in the season Lovie and Light need to push the ejection button under Glennon’s seat and get as high of a pick as they can for him.
Stock up on picks. We STILL might need that DE. If not than more O linemen certainly couldn’t hurt.
July 31st, 2015 at 8:22 pm
Bonazi…his career of what 2 seasons?
July 31st, 2015 at 8:45 pm
Keep on playing devils advocate and showing your true lack of knowledge on the game.
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I never said anything about subbing in or out, but QBs do get hurt right?… But let’s continue hurling insults and TRYING to twist the debate into something its not because you have no valid point… Nice try though.
July 31st, 2015 at 11:53 pm
Starting a questionable rookie QB should put the Bucs in a situation where they don’t have to trade up too much to get the first pick. Still the right move in the long run. Let’s see what he can do. Koeter will make a difference if Lovie stays out of his way.
Joe, hope your are more on point with your belief in Winston then “Johnny Football”. Swing and a miss.
August 1st, 2015 at 12:35 am
SteveK
Huge difference.
Josh Freeman had talent. He could take over and win games.
It was his head that couldnt take it. Couldnt stop partying
Glennon has never shown that. He has only shown that he not take chances to win.
Hes gonna throw every pass to his check down Recievers, and lose with goid Stats.
That impresses fans, who arent looking at his YAC average.
Coaches know hes just playing it safe- stats before Wins
There is always a marjet for any QB who is uninjured, and has started a game.
But no NFL coach will be fooled by his “pretty little lying” statisics
August 1st, 2015 at 12:37 am
Damn phone! Auto correct gone loopy
August 1st, 2015 at 2:11 am
Absolutely.
Joe is not going to give up on any player after six quarters. Remember, both Bill Polian and Gil Brandt were VERY high on Johnny, too.
August 1st, 2015 at 6:58 am
Capt. Tim,
You’re right, Freeman had so much talent. His give a phuck was broken, and he had a lack of commitment was disgraceful. My disdain for Josh during his last season with the Bucs was heightened because of the amount of talent he wasted. Shameful.
I hope Freeman can rebound, but I don’t see it happening. Hard to believe he was 25-6 and the Bucs were 10-6, five long years ago.
August 1st, 2015 at 8:56 am
Yeah- we all thought that we had our QB.
Nope- just another huge letdown- even for the Bucs, that was Dark days
August 1st, 2015 at 10:01 am
So when our savior “America’s QB ” gets a injury who again will we insert into the starting position? Another QB who has yet to take any snaps in a real NFL game. Why do you want to get rid of our most experienced QB? We have a suspect Oline protecting the “savior” from slowville. Who has proved at the NFL combine he is slower than Mr. Glennon so can he now part the seas of the defense with a wave of his hand? Since we don’t need any good back ups cut, trade our backup WR LB S CB DE TE DT we will not need them anyway right?
August 1st, 2015 at 11:42 am
Bill Polian probably wishes he had a quality back up. Peyton went down in the offseason and they had nothing to fall back on. Lack of depth at the most important posistion in American sports, the team is trash because of it and Polian gets fired.
My point being that a good back up can help us more than a mid round draft pick who might help next year, assumimg we dont swing and miss like usual come draft week.
August 1st, 2015 at 7:09 pm
“JBF created the abomination that is the MGM… these Schiano backing, Lovie bashing twig-dickin little fa**ots… overtaking these message boards for…”
Sounds like Dinnerplate Nips needs to get some or rub one out…too uptight over some of us actually thinking Glennon on the Bucs roster is a good thing and that thus far Greg Schiano has done a better job coaching the Bucs than Lovie…no need to get upset over opinions that are supported by facts.
August 2nd, 2015 at 2:10 pm
Hey Joe this rookie you try and say is America’s quarterback (L MFAO) when he FAILS will you promise to stop this website. Someone who really knows Football talent needs to peddle the Bucs news you must have your head stuck so far up Lovie Smith’s A__ that you can’t think straight. If the Bucs get rid of Glennon it will be a huge mistake. We need to keep Glennon so when Jameis FAILS and Lovie is FIRED we will have a decent go to quarterback.