Jameis Can Ease Into NFL
July 25th, 2015Look, Joe has long been on record believing a successful (ahem) 2015 season would be six wins. There is a reason this team was 2-14 last year. You are what your record says you are.
This is why Joe doesn’t believe Bucs coach Lovie Smith is in any danger. Team Glazer is not irrational. Rarely do rookie quarterbacks to lead a team to the playoffs. The odds are not in Jameis’ favor.
Because of that, Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post believes Jameis is in a perfect position.
Can Jameis Winston be a franchise quarterback right away?
The initial results from offseason workouts and minicamp for Winston were uniformly positive, but that was in shorts. The good thing for Winston and the Buccaneers is that there are zero expectations for this team in 2015, so the burden on the No. 1 overall pick won’t be overwhelming. Tampa Bay also has one of the best young receivers in the game in Mike Evans, so Winston won’t be on his own.
No expectations. Little pressure. And talent — top-shelf talent — to throw to? Any rookie quarterback should be so lucky as Jameis.
Now if Lovie pulls a stunt and decides to start the quarterback of the past and quarterback of the future and maybe quarterback of the present, Mike Glennon, then the clock begins ticking and Lovie Watch is in full swing.
July 25th, 2015 at 8:31 am
At ease joe, you have a better chance of CJ Wilson & Jason Pierre Paul playing hot potato with an M-80 versus Mike Glennon even sniffing the huddle (come opening day).
Only chance Glennon starts is if Winston has a horrible camp, but the way he’s been preparing himself, and what’s being whispered by coaches, I just don’t see that happening.
July 25th, 2015 at 8:41 am
Why in the world would Lovie ever do that since Winston is a sure thing, don’t you know? Glennon has about a snowball’s chance in hell of starting the season opener, but then there is always that maybe not.
July 25th, 2015 at 8:41 am
There are a lot of fans that already know that the clock was ticking! It started when Lovie pulled the stunt and gifted the starting job to McCown!!!
I agree that we should not totally judge Lovie on the rookie performances, But everything else he will be judged!! With a microscope!!!
Defense, free-agents, special teams, penalties, game-management, adjustments, clock management and passive/conservative decisions could land Lovie in very hot water!!!
Just remember that all the other 2-14 teams fired there coach and gm’s!!!!
July 25th, 2015 at 8:51 am
The first pick of the entire draft absolutely, positively, MUST start on day one. Otherwise, as Joe hints, Lovie may be shopping for a comfortable couch for his basement. And you need only to look up the road at the example in Indianapolis to see what the Glazers are expecting this year, with a shiny new ‘franchise’ QB.
If Lovie’s seat is hot, after this year, it is because he is playing with matches… again. And Licht could easily be accused of supplying a can of gasoline.
IMO, Lovie needs eight wins, and five of them need to come in the second half. I see that as a reasonable goal. I am looking forward to the first one being September 13th.
July 25th, 2015 at 8:56 am
Hey, Joe.
Why in the world do you keep pounding us with the thought that Lovie is going to start, contemplating starting or even toying with starting Mike Glennon?
Are you trying to prepare us for that eventuality?
Are you trying to scare us?
Poke fun at us?
What’s going on in that beer logged brain of yours?
July 25th, 2015 at 9:25 am
All you people forget that Lovie thought (thinks) Mike Jenkins is a starter at corner…….be very afraid!!!!!!
July 25th, 2015 at 9:34 am
Glennon not going to happen…..only in Joe’s dreams/nightmares……the very few that suggest it as a possibility include Joe…..”Say it isn’t so, Joe”
July 25th, 2015 at 9:55 am
Actually I would bet the opposite. I would bet that if Glennon starts the season it buys Lovie three seasons. Two with winston the following two seasons. Do I think that will happen? Probably not…
I just want the best quarterback to win. I want to see Winston and Glennon BOTH get equal playing time with the 1’s during preseason games and training camp….unless it’s painfully obvious that one is better than the other early in camp, at which point you give the better option all the rep’s with the 1’s.
I want the better QB to start. We don’t know who that is right now.
July 25th, 2015 at 10:01 am
Ya but he and Joe is forgetting one important thing, NO OFFENSIVE LINE.
July 25th, 2015 at 10:33 am
We were NOT a 2 and 14 team Joe. You have REPEATEDLY written about how we tanked to win the race for Jameis. Even you can’t have it both ways man.
July 25th, 2015 at 10:34 am
If Joe has learned nothing else about Lovie since he was hired is that the guy is totally unpredictable with personnel moves. Remember, we are talking about a guy who shoved all his chips into the middle of the table for Josh McCown and thought Ghost Johnson was his answer to Simeon Rice.
July 25th, 2015 at 10:35 am
Jameis doesn’t ease into anything. He is a baller, a scrapper – a WINNER! He will do everything in his power and then some to help this team win games. And barring injury, Winston will be the day one starter. – DUH!!
Enjoy the ride Bucs fans.
July 25th, 2015 at 10:37 am
Love the picture and caption BTW Joe
July 25th, 2015 at 10:39 am
“You are what your record says you are.” — Bill Parcells.
July 25th, 2015 at 11:36 am
Still not understanding my post I see Joe.
C’mon man.
July 25th, 2015 at 11:37 am
Buc a new, we were most definitely a 2 win team last year as you can chalk up just as many near losses or tanks to near wins. The Steelers have a black eye of shame for losing that game to us – not us winning it. And that was probably the best game we played all yr.
Eye test alone we were bad, anyone that watched this team saw a train wreck top 2 bottom
July 25th, 2015 at 11:52 am
I never miss a game Mike. I haven’t missed one since ’76. Last yr I saw one of the worst OL performances I have ever seen and the Most senseless and predictable playcalling I have ever seen. Yes our record says 2 and 14. My point to Joe is he talks about how we tanked games in the race for Jameis yet he backtracks and says we are a 2 win team. I am not sure that we didn’t tank the last two games and his decision to put McCown back in makes me believe maybe more. I am a Firm believer that if we have an Average OL then we have a winning season.
July 25th, 2015 at 12:14 pm
Winston explaining why Madden got his ratings wrong….
After watching it you guys that think we are putting too much pressure on a rookie QB will look silly. Jameis has more confidence than us. I don’t think the Bucs have ever had a QB quite like this or a player for that matter. He has more swagger than Sapp ever had.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2528566-br-exclusive-jameis-winston-breaks-down-why-madden-got-his-rating-wrong
July 25th, 2015 at 12:33 pm
Winston will change a lot of minds after he turns a lot of heads starting with game 1 in September. The combination of Jameis and Koetter’s play calling will surprise a whole lot of pundits who show us being in contention for another top pick in next year’s draft. The same people who predict that also picked us to win the NFC South last year.
July 25th, 2015 at 1:27 pm
I still think everyone who says the Bucs are a bad team drastically underestimates the importance of an offensive coordinator at the NFL level. I knew we weren’t gonna be a good team last year the minute we lost Tedford and started McCown. With Tedford and Glennon I think we win 6 or 7 and make a run at the division title. With that being said I think we are a much improved team from that roster. That’s the logic I use to say we are a solid NFL football team, not a bottom feeder like everyone predicts. BTW NFL analysts and the media have the worst habit of simply taking the draft order and shuffling a few teams around to predict the next season. Nobody ever has any balls to predict a team will rise up.
July 25th, 2015 at 1:39 pm
What if Winston sucks bad? Probably will. Do they not start Glennon?
July 25th, 2015 at 1:57 pm
Jody..probably not.
July 25th, 2015 at 4:05 pm
Just remember Jimmy Johnson once went 1 and 15. Good thing Jerry Jones showed a little patience. Your obsession with this man seems borderline stalkerish homie.
July 25th, 2015 at 7:17 pm
Buc-A-New, what’s up baby!! I’m thinking that the Joes only think we tanked the last game. A game that looked like the Saints were trying to lose until we pulled out our good players. That’s where I think you guys are getting your thoughts criss crossed.
July 25th, 2015 at 7:21 pm
Hey 87! I don’t think there has been an NFL player that has the attitude of Winston. He’s the class clown that’s also the smartest kid in the class. He puts himself out there and you don’t see him coming, like Al Pacino in The Devils Advocate!!
July 25th, 2015 at 7:53 pm
FSUKing…………GREAT POINTS. I really think there are too many people who underestimate the importance of an OC. To throw an inexperience guy like Arroyo in there was a total disaster in one aspect and then gutting the OL unnecessarily compounded the problem. Last year was the perfect storm to disaster.
I am not a huge Lovie fan, but we can’t keep changing the head coach every three years. Tough enough getting guys to want to come here. That only adds to the perception of ineptitude.
Sometimes a step backwards does lead to a major move forward and I think can happen here. Glennon will never be more than a solid backup, but hey, the mob probably thinks that Matt Cassel is a capable starter too.
July 25th, 2015 at 10:07 pm
Can’t even imagine how much the General has to drink just to sleep at night. Has anyone ever seen him this uptight? Oh ya! There was Johnny Football. EMS better be at the first practice just in case.
July 25th, 2015 at 11:58 pm
What if they start Glennon (Cannon) and then it turns out to be Koetters decision and not Lovies?