What Do The Numbers Mean?

June 30th, 2015
Numbers showed GMC slipped last year. Or did he?

Numbers hint GMC may have slipped. Or did he?

With the possible exception of stud outside linebacker Lavonte David, no Bucs player could be considered elite in his class — unless his name is Gerald McCoy.

GMC is a dominant 43 defensive tackle, perhaps second only to Geno Atkins of the Bengals. Pull Warren Sapp aside and the Hall of Famer will insist GMC is a better player than he was.

However, is GMC the perfect fit for Lovie’s version of the Tampa-2? Here is where numbers could be misleading. Or maybe not.

Based on GMC’s numbers from 2014, it was his worst in three years. By way of Jason Kanno of Bleacher Report, GMC had less than half the quarterback hurries he had in the final year of the New Schiano Order. It was also the only time the past three years GMC had single-digit quarterback hits.

Just looking at the numbers, one could conclude GMC is slipping. However, this doesn’t factor in quick-step drops opposing quarterbacks used, or how, with a Ghost playing next to him, teams knew they could double- or triple-team GMC. There was zero pass rush to worry about.

There is more to the story than just numbers can provide. One could also argue the Bucs defense was so wretched, teams just boat-raced the Bucs so easily, the defense faced fewer passing snaps and/or few passes defended than usual, hence, fewer chances to drill quarterbacks.

96 Responses to “What Do The Numbers Mean?”

  1. The Buc Realist Says:

    The answer is that Coach Schiano could do more with less than love!!!!!

  2. The Buc Realist Says:

    Lovie

  3. Buccfan37 Says:

    The Buc Realist… I’m buying that opinion.

  4. Garett Says:

    @Buc Realist
    If you mean “more” yelling with “less” clue of what he’s doing, I could agree.

  5. WS99 Says:

    numbers from 2014, it was his worst in three years
    **************
    Wow! So schiano had him playing better with Adrian clayborn and te’o? Interesting. Lovie will turn things around I’m sure. He’s a waaaayyyy better coach than schiano, he’s a defensive guru and of course IT TAKES TIME.

  6. Supersam Says:

    Schiano got more out of his players. Lavonte David had His best years under Schiano. It’s as simple as that. Doug Martin Bobby Rainey all had better years under Schiano.

  7. Jolly Bucs Fan Says:

    is this considering that GMC was actually out a few games as well?

  8. Idontwannahearitanymore Says:

    Everybody had better years under Schiano because the Bucs werer 2-14 last year!

  9. Supersam Says:

    Everybody cried about Schiano running stunts on the D-line and it was the reason our sack numbers were down, yet how many sacks did the Dline have with the great Lovie Smith last year? Hmmmm. Do I agree with playing guys like TEO’Nesheim and Tiquan Underwood? Hell no! But I also don’t agree with us playing Garrett Gilkey and Patrick Omameh either. So we trade one head coaches personnel mistakes for another. Round and round we go.

  10. Jerseybuc Says:

    Was wondering when someone would point this out. Schiano, like most coaches,found ways to get his playmakers on D in position to make an impact. Line stunts, slot blitzs and even freeing his LBs to get into the backfield-it allowed David and McCoy to excel.
    Lovie signs a guy who can’t get pressure off the edge, and then makes no adjustments at all to help the pass rush.
    Because he is a slave to his system and can’t think on his feet.

  11. Lord Cornelius Says:

    LOL at the Schiano love. LOL. Like really. LOL.

    I am still 1000% more confident in Lovie than Schiano. The defense played MUCH better towards the end of the year whereas Schiano’s defense typically played terribly throughout the entire year.

    2012 – Final 10 weeks of the year Schiano’s team gave up 25.2 pts per game
    2013 – Final 10 weeks of the year Schiano’s team gave up 25.7 pts per game
    2014 – Final 10 weeks of the year Lovie’s team gave up 20.6 points per game

    That’s a HUGE difference. Like going from close to bottom of league to close to top 10. And it’s not like that’s a bad sample size. And don’t give me “more with less”. Schiano had freaking Revis and his boys Goldson & Mark Barron lol. What was it “the no fly zone” or something? Schiano also had a great offense for stretches in 2012.

    There’s plenty of other things to be negative about without being inaccurate or dumb.

  12. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Be careful what you wish for…..Most wanted Schiano’s head…..now many think he is better than Lovie….the one thing both of them have had to deal with is Dominick’s poor drafts…..his incompetence have cost the Bucs at least 5 years. We have almost nothing to show for it.

    Time for another Lovie Confidence Poll…..

  13. BucsDan Says:

    Supersam: “Everybody cried about Schiano running stunts on the D-line and it was the reason our sack numbers were down, yet how many sacks did the Dline have with the great Lovie Smith last year?”

    Excluding DEs, I believe that the Bucs had the highest number of sacks from the DT position in the NFL.

    Match that same interior tenacity with the continued emergence of J.Smith and hopefully G.Johnson at the DE positions and we may see a resurgence in the sack numbers to days long past.

  14. Lord Cornelius Says:

    Yeah Bucs actually didn’t do that bad in sacks last year; as mentioned they led the NFL in DT sacks. But yeah we really need those stunts back lol… It’s like you guys are searching for things to be pessimistic and depressed

  15. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I’d like to see more blitzes from LVD….not sure he can be stopped and he’s our best tackler. It would’d hurt to line GMC up at DE once in a while…..I’m quite sure he could get to the QB….and we have help from Melton on the interior now.

  16. Ray Rice Says:

    @JOE

    Dig a little deeper. What do Aunt Geraldine’s numbers say regarding his performance past the 1st quarter or in crunch time?

  17. NashvilleBuc Says:

    Lord Cornelius
    ROTFLMAO

  18. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Tampabaybucfan

    We all knew the moment Lovie was hired, Lavonte David would become a shell of his former self. Especially with the (Will) backers coverage responsibilities. Though Derrick Brooks was the best (Will) Linebacker to ever play the game (No Disrespect Mr. Ham). He only had 13 sacks in 13 years.

    Under Schiano, Lavonte David played in a more aggressive 4-3 over front. He was asked to run downfield and attack the line of scrimmage-Opposed to dropping back in coverage. LVD racked up 9 sacks in two years under Schiano. After a full year in the system-hopefully Hardy & Lovie will let Lavonte freelance more this year.

  19. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    I wanna see DJ Swearinger at the line scrimmage causing HAVOC, when we drop the SAM and move into nickel.

  20. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    I wanna see DJ Swearinger at the line of scrimmage causing HAVOC.

  21. Patrick in VA Says:

    Offenses didn’t need to pass on us. They were never behind, they had reason to believe they would get the ball back in short order if they were to turn the ball over to us and they could take short drops to get the ball out quickly effectively. Of course sack numbers were down.

  22. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Patrick in VA

    Glad, to see that you still roam these parts. Hope all is well Sir

  23. Patrick in VA Says:

    Not on as often but I still stop in from time to time to make sure you guys don’t go too far afield of reality. To you as well sir. All my best to you and yours.

  24. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Well I thank yah, and good day to you.

  25. HawaiianBuc Says:

    @Ray Rice,

    Yeah, GMC can’t rush late in games because he can’t handle the pressure. He’s a choker. You’ve got it all figured out. It has nothing to do with the fact that defenses have completely figured out that he was about the only one with any pass rush ability whatsoever. He just can’t handle the pressure. It’s too bad that the other NFL players and coaches don’t have the same football knowledge as you. Otherwise, they probably wouldn’t have named him an all-pro, a 3 time pro-bowler, or top 30 in the league.

  26. HawaiianBuc Says:

    Of course I’m talking to the guy that still doesn’t believe GMC gets doubled and tripled on virtually ever snap, with the exception of maybe a few short drops here and there.

  27. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Trade him for 3 first rounders. Instant team fix. It worked for Jimmy Johnson.

  28. The Buc Realist Says:

    @pattrick in VA

    please don’t make thing up and/or misremember how lovie’s defense was shredded last year!!!

    passing
    comp 387 Attempts 563 yards 4084
    rushing
    attempts 468 yards 1819

  29. what? Says:

    Comparing Schiano to Lovie right now is like comparing Wyche to Dungy headed into 1997.

  30. HawaiianBuc Says:

    “Trade him for 3 first rounders. Instant team fix. It worked for Jimmy Johnson”

    ——-

    #1, that was like 25 years ago. Don’t see any team willing to give up that much for any player anymore. Second and most importantly, look at how Dallas drafted with their picks. Most years, you could give us 3 first rounders, and we’d miss on all three. The success of that Cowboys team was their ability to hit on their late round picks as well. They put together an amazing offensive line with no-name guys. Us trading Gerald McCoy for ANYTHING would just give us less talent and many more draft busts.

  31. HawaiianBuc Says:

    I completely understand the pessimism towards Lovie after last year. He did very little to deserve much optimism. I’m not excusing him for the mistakes he made last year, because he made too many to list. However, you have to give the guy a chance to implement his system. There was a time when coaches were given 3 or 4 years to build and develop their team. There have been numerous times where that patience was rewarded with winning. Nowadays, fans want coaches fired after 2 games. It’s ridiculous. The worst coach to ever coach an NFL game knows twice as much football as all of us combined. I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all to give Lovie another year without screaming for his head all the time. By about halfway through this year, we’ll probably know if this is going to work or not. By the end of the season, there will probably be no doubt. Let it play out a little, because he might just surprise you.

  32. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Moment of Silence Brothas

    Retired NFL Lineman Damion Cook Died From Heart Attack At Age 36 (way 2 young)

    He’s best know for his Rookie skit on Hardknocks (Ravens)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOLw5yELfmE

  33. LargoBuc Says:

    Yes Lavonte plays alot more shallow zone as oppossed to blitzing under Schiano. But even without Lavonte blitzing, we had the same number of sacks. 36. Just because Lavonte isnt getting as many sacks dosent mean that Lovie is using him wrong. Thats just foolish. He was damn good last year. If he was blitzing, he never eould of got the chance to knock out Jimmy Grahm. Plus now he has q mike next to him that csn cover. Bruce Carter is such an upgrade over Foster. Superior pass coverage will be necessary to help our defensive ends, as back wards as that may sound. I like this defense. I think it will give us a chance to win.

  34. Supersam Says:

    Joe you talk all the time about Lovie will get a break this year if things don’t go well because he’s starting a rookie quarterback, well how I don’t think that’s true, I think if Jameis struggles and the defense takes a step back. It’s bye bye Lovie. Schiano was not granted a pass when we started Glennon.

  35. Supersam Says:

    And for all those saying our Dline is better in Lovies scheme than Schianos your wrong. We just have better talent, Clinton McDonald is better than Gary Gibson. Simple as that.

  36. Ray Rice Says:

    @Hawaiian

    You are basing part of your argument on your “superior” football knowledge right? No one breaks down film like you on Madden football. Then you say that because he was named to pro bowls and the NFL 100 you can’t be wrong. Right?…. Wrong buddy.
    The pro bowl and NFL 100 as everyone knows is a crock of $hit. If you believe in pro bowl voting then I guess you also believe Beast LVD should have been left out too huh. You believe in the NFL 100 even though a lot, and I mean a lot of players have come out and said not everyone gets asked to vote and some even say that no one on their team voted. But I guess the Madden champ knows more right?
    #93 was named to the AP team once. He earned that. But what games are you watching when you state he gets double and triple teamed all game? Come on man. That is a weak a$$ argument on top of being false.

  37. WS99 Says:

    lmao all you guys crack me up.

    Hawaii, I love you and all but I’ve already told you to stop watching the games on the radio. Please invest in a dvr brother it will help you a lot.

    Lord corn, I don’t even know what to say to you. You sound like a current or former player. You sound like booger telling everyone last pre-season that Lovie will make schiano look like a pop warner coach. Lol yup that’s exactly what happened.

    Listening to some of you guys is worse than having to take financial advise from a bum.

  38. WS99 Says:

    Ray

    It’s not their fault! They’ve been buc fans since 1976. They really don’t know no better.

  39. WS99 Says:

    WS99 Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    June 30th, 2015 at 5:53 pm
    Excuses excuses excuses.

    Minn won 7 games with a first yr HC, a rookie qb and not one probowler on the roster. And they play in the nfcn with 2 playoff teams.

    IT TAKES TIME!!!!!

  40. Bobby Says:

    @Ray Rice….. Things don’t change do they. Just like the real Ray Rice you are absolutely clueless. The consensus of players and coaches alike is that GMC is a dominant player and they game plan for him accordingly. If we ever get an edge rush your small mind will be blown. GMC will have double digit sacks every year.

  41. HawaiianBuc Says:

    @Ray Rice,

    The Pro Bowl and top 100 isn’t completely accurate, but it’s a far cry from being a crock of sh!t. Lavonte doesn’t get named to the Pro Bowl because he is a 4-3 OLB, so he gets beat out by 3-4 OLB’s, because they get sacks. In this league, that’s what people recognize. It’s not fair, but it’s always been like that.

    Had McCoy gotten just a pro bowl and nothing else, maybe you could say he’s overrated. Had he only gotten voted to the top 100 and like #80-100, maybe you could argue he’s not as good as we think. But when he’s got literally every honor a football player can get (on a bad team in a small market no less), I think it’s a safe bet he’s the real deal. And he was actually an all-pro the last two years.

    I am no football expert. I can’t count how many times I’ve written that. However, I can see when a guy is getting doubled and tripled. I do watch the game again. I watch McCoy, because he’s our best player and he’s a huge key to our success. I look even harder when I see him not getting pressure. I see two or three bodies on him. So while I may not have a high football IQ, I can count to 3. The only team that really didn’t double him was Baltimore, but they used 3 step drops all game long. But you go ahead with your obsession with him being overrated.

  42. Ray Rice Says:

    @WS99

    “Listening to some of you guys is worse than having to take financial advise from a bum.”

    “It’s not their fault! They’ve been buc fans since 1976. They really don’t know no better.”

    LMFAO!!!!!!!

  43. Ray Rice Says:

    @BOBBY SHMURDA

    “Things don’t change do they.”

    Nope they don’t. Because you keep arguing about how great 1……1……. player is on a 2-14 team. Stop trying to find the silver lining. They are the YUCS right now. And please stop with the whole he never had an edge rusher $hit. What happened when Bennett was there? He was a pretty good edge rusher wasn’t he? And don’t blame Schiano. A professional executes no matter what. That’s what they get paid to do.

  44. The original "Kevin" Says:

    Joe can you run a poll on how many of the fans actually think Lovie Tanked the season vs Lovie is a crumby coach…

    I refuse to judge lovie or the majority of the players based on last years performance. Our offense was never on the field due to a never will be OC and our defensive stats were swayed from never leaving the field. Its un thinkable to draw any type of conclusions from this teams 2014 season.

    This season….no excuses. None!!!

    There is zero reason this team should not show tremendous improvement. If they dont then Id say its time to promote koeyter to head coach…but I dont see that happening.

    I see this team improving dramatically and going far in the regular season for seasons to come.

    Then I see Lovie over stepping Koetter in key moments and screwing things up in the first playoff game.

    Then I see the Glaziers firing lovie and dirk koetter winning a superbowl as our head coach with a lovie built defense.

    Sound familiar???

  45. WS99 Says:

    A professional executes no matter what.

    Toma!!!

  46. Jim Says:

    Last year the Bucs did not have an offensive coordinator. OC are kinda important you think? With a defense always playing in the hole, and running a new defense is it a surprise that they had a bad year?

  47. The original "Kevin" Says:

    A profesional needs to right tools to suceed. Kind of like someone who works on computers all day needs the right software to do his job, a football player could use an oc (software) and not a head coach tanking for his qb (virus). Other Viruses include MRSA, CHEST BUMPING,PUNCHING CAB DRIVERS, SELF INFLICTED STAB WOUNDS, TOES ON THE LINE AND AND UNADJUSTABLE THERMOSTAT.

  48. bucsbedabest Says:

    McCoy had 297 less snaps than 2013. If you extrapolate those lost snaps with maintaining the same productivity McCoy could have had 14 sacks, 10 QB hits and 48 QB hurries. McCoy’s PRP (pass rushing productivity) was and still is incredible for a DT who is constantly double teamed. For all of you doubters. Look at the Dallas Cowgirls record and defense in 2013. The next year with Tampa2 the no name defense went to the playoffs and if it were not for the call agenst Dez Bryant they could have played in the NFC Championship game. All the Buccaneers have to do is stay healthy. We have a winner in Winston and elite players in McCoy, David and Evans.

  49. Mike10 Says:

    No comment… Well, ya nevermind

  50. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    We know things are slow when we start arguing how bad GMC is. We can probably agree on this, however…..GMC & LVD are about all we have to show for Dominiks tenure as GM……where are all the others? This is why we are struggling to win…..it’s not just the coaching….the talent hasn’t been there yet…..I think the last two drafts have been good (this year better)….much will depend on rounds 3-7….
    Looking forward to Sims, Edwards & Pamphile (Herron gone)
    I think we may have some winners this year with Alexander, Bell & Clay
    If that’s the case….one more good draft and we are on our way.

  51. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @WS99

    The only difference between the fans since ’76 & others is that we have seen more wins….but mostly more losses.

  52. WS99 Says:

    Oddly enough we’ve never argued about how bad LVD is, just saying.

  53. WS99 Says:

    Tbbf

    You know darn well I’ve seen more wins since 94 than you have since 76, lol lmao.

  54. HawaiianBuc Says:

    “Oddly enough we’ve never argued about how bad LVD is, just saying.”

    ——–

    That’s because he hasn’t gotten the recognition he deserves. He flies very much under the radar nationally. I can’t tell you how many of my friends have never even heard of him. I don’t believe I have ever seen him interviewed nationally. We all know the guy has been getting jobbed, so why the hell would we criticize him?

    McCoy was drafted with much higher expectations at #3. He battled injuries early, leading to tons of people calling him a bust. There are many that are still butt hurt about that. As crazy as this sounds, I think many fans want him to act like Warren Sapp, and be a complete douche. They don’t like a happy go lucky guy, especially when the team is losing. Bottom line, he’s the face of the franchise, and since we’ve been a losing franchise for so long, he takes a lot of the heat. I think it’s stupid, but I do understand how some could feel that way.

  55. Buc1987 Says:

    Lord Cornelius …I don’t remember Schiano getting blown out by the Falcons and Ravens, or even blown out in general.

  56. WS99 Says:

    They don’t like a happy go lucky guy, especially when the team is losing.

    Bingo!!

  57. Buc1987 Says:

    WS99 Says:
    June 30th, 2015 at 5:48 pm

    “Ray

    It’s not their fault! They’ve been buc fans since 1976. They really don’t know no better.”

    LOL even us fans since the 80’s have a high tolerance for losing and ineptitude.
    I suffered my fair share of losing teams as well. I was hanging by a thread when they hired Dungy. I was about to give up on this team.

    As a matter of fact. I even bought a Panthers hat…and was going to become a Panthers fan. Which of course my older brother a Patriots fan constantly reminded me about throughout the Dungy-Gruden era.

    Yes they were THAT bad.

  58. Buc1987 Says:

    From some reason I remember the Saints blowing out Schiano at N.O. am I right?

    I don’t feel like looking it up. I just got home from the hospital with another stomach infection.

    BTW Joe I had my wife’s idiot phone (smart phone) with me and your site is for shyte like everyone says when they use their idiot phones.

  59. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    WS99

    Yea….but I’ve also seen the wins since 94……plus the ones from 76….

  60. WS99 Says:

    The year they went to the sb? Honestly I’ve always liked Steve smith and Julius peppers. What’s not to like? Watching smith and barber battle was always epic, second only to sapp vs Farve or Brooks vs Vick. I love smith’s “manitude” that’s why he’s a winner. But his celebration dances like the row boat and the swashbuckler fencing in the end zone, just brutal but you gotta love that chit.

  61. Buc1987 Says:

    If I had a dollar for every time I told someone up in N.C. that the Bucs were going to the SB the year they went…..well yes I’d have a pretty good chunk of change.

    I knew they were going that season even before it started. I’m probably not the only one though.

  62. WS99 Says:

    Tbbf

    Rotf! I was implying that there were no wins before 94. Obviously I’m bored bro, out here causing trouble. Lol

  63. Buc-A-New Says:

    Howdy Fellas. I am not here to argue. Just to state that if our OL is “Average” then we will have a winning season this yr.
    We lost 8 games last yr by a TD or less last yr. With improved QB play, a Top Ten OC, ME in his second yr with he and VJax bonding much better, all we need is an Average OL to open some holes for the running game thereby setting up the TE game which EXPLODES the WR game.
    Simple really.

  64. Buc-A-New Says:

    DB……..I am soon going to have to put you on double secret probation. 🙂

  65. Buc1987 Says:

    Okay I’m an idiot. The Saints and Chiefs blew Schiano out in 2012.

    Saints 41-0 which I remember turning that off early. The Chiefs 38-10.

  66. Buc1987 Says:

    “We lost 8 games last yr by a TD or less last yr.”

    You could say the same about Schiano as well. How did that turn out?

  67. WS99 Says:

    Buc

    Tonight is argue about stupid stuff night , welcome.

  68. Buc-A-New Says:

    I see you are off the loopy meds 87. How are you bud?

  69. Buc-A-New Says:

    Lol………I don’t like to argue so I will just watch then.

  70. Buc1987 Says:

    Oh no I’m still on them…it’s about the only buzz I can get until these antibiotics do their trick. I might have to give in and finally buy some green.

  71. WS99 Says:

    87

    We beat the Chiefs 38-10. Lol. Lovies wishes he could score points like schiano did in 2012.

  72. Buc1987 Says:

    WS99 Says:
    June 30th, 2015 at 9:36 pm

    “Buc

    Tonight is argue about stupid stuff night , welcome.”

    Just tonight? Come on man…

  73. WS99 Says:

    I know, you’ve been around so long you automatically assumed we lost. I get bro it’s out. I need to send the whole lot of yuz to abuse counseling. Lmao

  74. Buc-A-New Says:

    ^^^^^THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!

  75. Buc-A-New Says:

    Dammit I was referring to 87’s comment.

  76. Buc1987 Says:

    WS99…ya see. The meds. lol I remember that Chiefs game to. What the hell is wrong with me. I remember that because I was in the hospital getting my gallbladder taken out and I was hootin and hollerin in the my hospital bed. The nurses told me to quiet down a couple times.

  77. Buc1987 Says:

    No I looked it up. I just read it wrong. You’re probably right. I just assumed they lost.

  78. Buc1987 Says:

    Have you ever seen a Buc fan talking trash when the Bucs are 0 and 7?
    If you were with me in 2013 going into Ray Jay you would have heard it a lot.

    All season long I talked trash to opposing teams fans no matter what they record was. I have a blast at Buc games.

  79. WS99 Says:

    You got me in tears bro.

    Yo so last night I’m on the streets (Twitter) lurking to see what jaboo is up to. This qb needs to chill with the ladies. Almost every night some chick is posting about him getting their # and what not. So I’m scrolling throw and run into this Bears fan talking about even if jaboo is great this year he doubts it would help bc Lovie. He went off about building olines and fckn up the draft and poor clock management and not scoring points. Etc etc etc.

    Seems like some bears fans are still salty over Lovie and his winning system.

  80. Buc1987 Says:

    I remember tapping a Bills fan on the shoulder after the game and saying : Man I thought MY team sucked.

  81. WS99 Says:

    All I remember from 2013 is fans leaving early from the games. Like I mentioned before I worked at the stadium on and off for 4-5 years. We have season tix holders coming down the escalators handing us their tickets. Before half-time nevertheless. Smh.

  82. WS99 Says:

    Bills have some weapons this year. I forgot they have Percy harvin, yet another FA pick up we missed on.

  83. Buc1987 Says:

    I’ve read countless posts from Bears fans complaining about Lovie and his O-line. There’s even a funny cartoon youtube video about him and his terrible o-lines. Joe won’t let post it though.

  84. Buc1987 Says:

    This isn’t one, but it’s kinda funny.

    http://www.drewlitton.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/4.gif

    You can find LOTS of those if you type in the words Lovie Smith cartoons on google.

  85. Buc-A-New Says:

    You shouldn’t “Do” twitter. It is a dangerous drug.

  86. WS99 Says:

    My favorite Lovie vid:

    http://youtu.be/zFRyRzLkUHY

  87. WS99 Says:

    Aight fellers wifey time. PEACE!!!

  88. WS99 Says:

    FCK Twitter! It’s all stupid chit anyway but sometimes you can find some gems.

  89. Buc-A-New Says:

    Nail it good Bro!!

  90. Buc1987 Says:

    Yeah I’m out too. G’night John Boy, good night Mary Ellen, good night Pa.

  91. RustyRhinos Says:

    Hope ye feel better soon 87.

  92. Joe Says:

    Seems like some bears fans are still salty over Lovie and his winning system.

    Only two coaches have more wins with the Bears than Lovie: George Halas and Mike Ditka. Those two are gods in Chicago. Lovie? They couldn’t wait for him to leave. And, yes, they are still bitter about his time there. Bears fans believe, just like Tony Dungy, he left rings on the field. Unlike Dungy/Tampa Bay, Bears fans still don’t get a rise in their pants over him.

  93. Danati74 Says:

    Chase for Jameis.

  94. LakelandBuc Says:

    If Greg Schiano could coach so good, he would have at least been considered for a coaching position.Gerald McCoy played in 13 games last season, during the 2 seasons under Schiano he played in all 16 games, and he never got a rest under Schiano. But Joe Cullen will rotate his D-Linemen, so it’s obvious that he will have worst overall stats. The most important stat is his per play stat. Sheldon Richardson had 66 tackles and 8 sacks last season, we gave the Jets the 1st round pick to get him and they still have Revis back. SMH

  95. Fsuking Says:

    Any talk of McCoy and David being anything less than great is foolish. Any mention of Schiano’s name relating to anything good in Tampa is ignorance. And someone was talking about the Bills, holy shite are they gonna have a good defense this year! They might not let up 150 points all year. Of course they might not score any with that QB situation.

  96. Lord Cornelius Says:

    OK guys I get it if you find my optimism / praise of anything a 2-14 team to be blashpemous; but that honestly isn’t my main point.

    My main point is LOL AT GREG SHIANO ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?!!?

    The guy hasn’t got a freaking job for a reason. If he was such a good coach you think some smart football related person would have hired him.

    I get it.. we had half as many wins with lovie omg. But I’m honestly one of those people who would rather go 2-14 than 4-12 or 5-11. If we are going to lose; then let’s f*cking lose and get a QB in the draft. There is not much difference in the NFL Between a lot of 2-5 wins. Bottom line was the team sucked.

    Beggning of the year I was horrified by what I saw. I thought “man; wtf defense is this I thought Lovie would bring us a top 10 unit” while watching that Falcons game.

    But for the first year in awhile I feel like I saw the team improve steadily throughout the season in a few aspects (not O-line or Offense). I saw them identify talent and upgrade various positions (McDougal/J Smith/etc). I saw them admit their FA failures and cut bait after the season was over (collins/ghost/mccown). The team didn’t have an OC. That’s on Lovie for not having a backup plan but honestly I am just so happy we have Winston i could give two sh*ts. The season was lost early on. I never had ANY hope in Mike Glennon.

    I am a huge Winston believer so it’s impacted my optimism a lot. And the fact is the stats completely back up the idea that Lovie’s defense has a learning curve. top 10 defense for last 10 weeks. Im not going to say they actually looked like a top 10 defense; but I’d think they were more of a middle of the pact unit; than the bottom of the league unit that Schiano trotted out every year.

    Basically; I just find it insane anyone with much football knowledge and appreciation would think Greg Schiano would be an upgrade over Lovie Smith.