“Logic” Says It Is Mike Glennon
June 18th, 2015
A Bradenton Herald columnist sides with the Mike Glennon Mob.
Joe was right there. He heard it with his own ears. Lovie Smith said the quarterback conundrum isn’t about Jameis but about the “backup quarterback.”
Joe swears he heard this, and he hasn’t touched a drop of alcohol (yet) since Sunday.
However, ornery Alan Dell suggests otherwise. Oh, he too heard the same words from Lovie, but the Bradenton Herald columnist also heard Lovie rave last year about the quarterback of the past and quarterback of the future and maybe quarterback of the present, Mike Glennon. And who did Lovie start?
The last thing Lovie needs to do is hand the job to “America’s Quarterback,” Bucs signal-caller Jameis Winston, Dell claims. In fact, Dell said this should be simple logic.
Some might take this to mean Jameis has won the job, but logic says otherwise. The Bucs were 2-14 last year after Smith spent a lot of the owners money on free-agent busts and he doesn’t have that much cache anymore.
Smith also made the mistake of handing the quarterback job to Josh McCown last preseason and taking the competition out of the job. He further exacerbated that blunder by keeping McCown as his starter when the season was lost.
But things are different now, and the best thing going for Smith is that Winston is all for the job being open to competition.
The idea of Glennon starting is ludicrious, as Joe told his good friend, “The Big Dog,” Steve Duemig of WDAE-AM 620, on the JoeBucsFan.com Hour yesterday.
If Lovie tries to sell Glennon to Team Glazer, a man Lovie deemed unworthy of starting for a 2-14 team when turnover-prone Josh McCown was healthy, then if Joe was Bryan Glazer, he couldn’t reach for a bottle of vodka quick enough.
June 18th, 2015 at 8:39 am
Hey I see nothing wrong with starting MikeG IF he is clearly more comfortable with the offense than Winston. It’s a foregone conclusion that Jameis will be starting at some point (#1 pick + Licht’s ass on the line for the pick to pan out), but why rush him out there if he isn’t totally ready (assuming Glennon clearly looks better on practice)? Winston lovers will get to see their guy play, but as a Bucs fan it makes more sense to play whoever has the best grasp on the new system until the rookie looks better than the vet.
June 18th, 2015 at 8:48 am
@ToesOnTheLine! You couldn’t have said it better
June 18th, 2015 at 8:52 am
I refuse to be sucked in to the click-bait logic trap Mr. Dell has set for know-nots bursting at the seams to rehash the failure of the Bucs 2014 FA class to perform up to expectations.
Oh..wait…!!!
I just fell into the trap.
Very clever Mr. Dell…!!!
June 18th, 2015 at 9:04 am
The only, ONLY, O.N.L.Y. reason Jameis doesn’t start week 1 is if he doesn’t know the playbook and physically can’t communicate a play in the huddle. And from all accounts he might already know the offense better than Glennon. Not to mention, Glennon has had as much experience in Koetter’s offense as Jameis.
June 18th, 2015 at 9:05 am
4 scenarios:
1) Jameis starts and sails —- great, and L & L look good.
2) Jameis starts but struggles —- what then?
3) Glennon starts and sails —- Jameis waits but learns
4) Glennon starts but struggles —- Bring in the “messiah” to save the day.
Options 3 and 4 have little to no downside for L & L, but what if Jameis is a bust??
For instance, Matt Leinart was 37-2 @ USC, 99 TDs vs 23 INTs, National Champions, and Heisman trophy winner …………. but today he is ???
Remember FSU has had 29(!!!) players drafted by the NFL in the last three years, the highest total ever. Suppose Winston has “it” only because he was always surrounded by stellar teammates compared to his competition, and usually enjoyed a huge pocket and more than five seconds to throw.
tickrdr
June 18th, 2015 at 9:12 am
Another reason Glennon should start is to have him behind the unproven line. Once the line can proove it can block a bit then put in Jameis.
June 18th, 2015 at 9:20 am
Keep up this line of thinking and talking and the MGM is only going to become more vocal. Over the past months this group has been nearly washed out by the Jameis Winston tsunami, might as well call us the MG8 stragglers.
June 18th, 2015 at 9:29 am
Winston will start eventually. If he earns the job in the pre season, he should start immediately. If Glennon wins, he should start. Very few rookies win right out of the gate.
June 18th, 2015 at 9:29 am
On paper, makes sense. But Glennon would get beaten to a pulp. At least Jameis can move around.
June 18th, 2015 at 9:30 am
We all know the deal… Winston is the future of the franchise… Lovie is going to let Glennon pretend to be the starter for now until Winston can prove he is capable… Which he will by game 2 of the preseason…
June 18th, 2015 at 9:31 am
Glennon should start week one preseason. Jameis week 2. The winner starts week 3. done.
June 18th, 2015 at 9:57 am
Last year was different, in order to get McCown they had to tell him he would be the starter.
Seems silly at the time but he was the hands down best FA QB available last year. And Lovie inherited a rock star destroyed shell of an NFL franchise and tried to stabilize it with McCown. Didn’t work but there was no one else available that would have either.
Jameis is the number one pick and they have to be smart enough to play him when he is ready. I suspect that will be week one, but if not play the kid when he is ready to succeed.
Apples and Oranges from last year.
June 18th, 2015 at 10:05 am
I’m cool with Joe having a case of vodka next to his drinking hand for as long as he pays one whit of attention to anything, yes, anything, said by Lovie about anything. Oh, about the vodka, use in large and frequent amounts.
June 18th, 2015 at 10:34 am
No matter how hard folks try….there is no QB controversy…..even if Glennon starts…..what’s the big deal.
The only fear would be if either Glennon starts….and is fantastic….winning most games….or if Jameis starts and struggles terribly….
My bet is they go with the rookie…..best QB…..#1 overall pick…..let him learn under fire.
June 18th, 2015 at 10:37 am
josh mccown had arguably the worst season of his entire career last year for the bucs. mccown got injured and glennon had every chance to take over that starting job for the remainder of the year, if lovie is willing to start the worst quarterback in the league over mike glennon im sure they will have no problem starting Winston on him
and it’s not even lovie or lichts decision they’ll both have input but if this qb battle is anything close to even winston will start because the glazers have allowed him to be hyped and talked about since before the draft, if the glazers wanna see their 1st overall pick start day one ready or not guess what will happen? what will happen is licht the one who is in love with winston will convince the glazer boys starting winston is the best way to go in order to get him valuable experience for the future and possibly get them ready for a playoff run next year instead of sitting him
June 18th, 2015 at 10:38 am
Leave it to the Bucs to spend 25 mil and have him as a back up. We do realiZe it’s a new system to both Qbs. Only the Bucs would spend that kind of $ and split reps.
June 18th, 2015 at 11:00 am
I agree with Eric. Play Winston when he is ready to have success. That is hopefully week one but if not…that’s OK. I don’t think anyone is expecting a playoff run this year. Ease Winston in if necessary.
June 18th, 2015 at 11:06 am
WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT JOE?????????
Deemed unfit by lovie to start Glennon over McCown huh???? And you honestly believe that???You really think lovie thought Mccown was better.
Stevie wonder could see that glennon looked better than mccown. If you dont like the idea of glennon starting thats fine…..everyone has theyre opinion for the time being.
But PLEASE……..Stop with the arguement that Glennon couldnt beat out mccown last year. I think even the biggest glennon critic has to see glennon was better and lovie wanted this team to lose. Do you have anything else or is that it ??? Not the strongest arguement against the cannon
June 18th, 2015 at 11:13 am
Watched the interview last night. Lovie said when they return that is when it will matter who take reps where. So Americas General may be able to calm down then.
June 18th, 2015 at 11:17 am
Joe, you went from the General of the MG brigade to placing Glennon in the stockade. You have been served an Article 15 and demoted to buck private. Next step is the dishonorable discharge.
June 18th, 2015 at 11:21 am
Oh by the way, that last comment was purely in jest.
June 18th, 2015 at 11:24 am
MG8 is running Koetter’s offense better than Winston right now. It’s as simple as that. Koetter is trying to teach his scheme to all the players and he doesn’t need some entry level rookie holding back progress.
June 18th, 2015 at 11:42 am
Gulp. 🙁
June 18th, 2015 at 11:46 am
Whose decision was it to start McCown? Not the head coach? So Marcus Arroyo had more power than Lovie? Or was some suit calling the shots last year?
If Lovie was not the man who decided who would start at quarterback, please offer up suggestions as to who stomped over Lovie scalp to pull the trigger.
If Lovie didn’t make the call who to start at quarterback, Joe is all ears as to who did.
June 18th, 2015 at 12:06 pm
@BFFL…exactly, the guy who’s playing better and understands things will start…no reason to throw someone out there that’s not ready…and Joe, McCown is lighting it up in Browns camp….Never understood the McCown bashing. You can’t be a good QB when your harassed constantly from terrible blocking…
June 18th, 2015 at 12:25 pm
Logic should (SHOULD!)rule the day. The better player should start, it is as simple as that. Any questions?!
June 18th, 2015 at 12:48 pm
I personally think this would be the best possible scenario. It gives Jameis something like a “redshirt” season to get acclimated to the NFL (and probably develop a healthy chip on his shoulder) and has the potential to DRAMATICALLY increase Glennon’s trade value next offseason if he plays well. In league with completely deranged notions of QB value, it’s not unreasonable to think we might be able to turn a good season from Glennon into a first or second round pick. So an extra premium draft pick and a thoroughly groomed and motivated young quarterback (Jameis) to lead the team into 2016. How would that be a bad thing?
June 18th, 2015 at 1:11 pm
@Rich…yes, it’s all good. Don’t like Glennon as a starter too much but if he fails bad you just throw the kid in. Nothing lost…
June 18th, 2015 at 6:17 pm
Being a hyped #1 pick should not guarantee a starting spot
right out of the gate.
Only if you’re Andrew Luck and you can legitimately beat out all of your
more experienced competition in camp.
Glennon is much better than his haters would lead you to believe.
Fortunately Koetter doesn’t give a damn what Winston groupies think.
He’s concerned about his career and a thing called winning.
Don’t get mad, Winston should become even better than Glennon
hopefully sooner rather than later. Howard realizes that we’re tied to
Winston and that Winstons scouting dictates that he should be an elite QB.
Right now we have a guy that’s coming into his own (Schiano knows talent)
and a guy who’s projected to be the best QB to come out of college since Andrew Luck.
It’s a good problem to have.
If Glennon can start the season it’s win-win-win.
Winston doesn’t get thrown to the wolf pack.
Winston gets to watch a few battles from the sideline.
It will make his smooth transition 10x easier.
There’s a good possibility that between Koetter and the chip that the team
is playing with, that they might actually be a really good team this year.
No way Koetter is going to play politics.
June 18th, 2015 at 6:33 pm
@Howard Cosell:
Nice Post!
Not sure that Koetter will get the final say though.
tickrdr