Will Jameis Winston Match Mariota’s Plan?
June 18th, 2015
Last year, Joe broke the story that Josh McCown was holding secret practices in Tampa before training camp — with 100 percent attendance by the offense.
McCown had told Joe the effort was repeating what he and Jay Cutler cooked up in Chicago in 2013, when a new Bears offense vaulted to the second-ranked offense in the NFL.
Now, per Paul Kuharsky of ESPN, we learn that quarterback Marcus Mariota plans to use some of his pre-training-camp vacation time working with Titans receivers and maybe even hosting sessions in Hawaii.
Mariota, for those who forgot, was the No. 2 overall draft pick this year. He’s been getting nearly every first-team rep (what a concept!) this spring, and he will face the Buccaneers on opening day in Tampa — just 80-something days away.
So will Jameis Winston, America’s Quarterback, rise up and do the same kind of thing with his Bucs brethren?
Joe realizes Gerald McCoy and other veterans might be advising Jameis to lay low and be a rookie, but Joe would prefer Jameis stand up and be himself. And he’s the kind of guy who would want to be slinging the rock with teammates on some secluded playground.
June 18th, 2015 at 10:55 am
Maybe he can invite them to the covered practice facility at FSU since he can’t offer Hawaii, yet
June 18th, 2015 at 11:02 am
Winston, like all rookies, needs to get a lot of rest. It’s been non-stop football & training for MONTHS now, the #1 reason rooks fall off toward the end of their first season from fatigue.
June 18th, 2015 at 11:06 am
I don’t understand why it’s a big deal for Glennon to get 1st team reps. He needs to be ready just in case something happens to Winston. Lovie already said that one of the QBs (we know who it will be) will go with the 1s at training camp, and he’s using the minicamps to get Winston and Glennon working with everyone, not just one set of guys.
It’s really not a big deal. If Winston is getting a lot of reps with the 2nd team during training camp then I’ll be worried.
June 18th, 2015 at 11:21 am
If a rookie is going to start at quarterback Week 1, he needs as many snaps with the first team as possible. He is learning a new offense, new teammates, new coaches, the works. Likewise with the rookie’s teammates. That’s a lot on Jameis’ plate. Having him screw around with guys who will be coaching high school football this fall does nothing but stunt Jameis’ growth.
You didn’t see Mike Evans running with the slugs much if at all last year.
June 18th, 2015 at 11:25 am
glennon plans to hold a camp in nc state, word is that evans and jackson are invited. that should get the glennon mob excited
June 18th, 2015 at 11:45 am
Joe, everyone’s learning a new offense. Everyone needs to be up to speed on it and I think (so does Lovie, obviously) that everyone should be familiar with everyone’s capabilities. Glennon needs to get used to the remade OL also.
I appreciate the melodrama/hyperbole because it’s very entertaining but I think it’s mountains vs. molehills. If Jameis is going to lead the team, he needs to get used to EVERYONE in the offseason. He’ll be the man in training camp, no doubt.
June 18th, 2015 at 12:00 pm
They were playing on Plant H.S. $750,000 field (thank you Steinbrenners) last year. Wouldn’t be surprised to see that happen again.
June 18th, 2015 at 12:01 pm
First team, second team, it’s all much of ado about nothing. There are lots of players alternating between first and second team in these ota’s and mini camp. So half the players on second team this day were on first team yesterday. That means he’s working with a lot of the same players anyway.
June 18th, 2015 at 12:08 pm
When training camp starts, and there is a real first team, it will matter. Meanwhile work on your skills and knowledge.
June 18th, 2015 at 12:25 pm
I guess Mariota is more ready than Jameis. Go figure lol. I’m praying it’s not true but if Mariota becomes the superstar of the 2, this will go down as the worst decision in Bucs history. PERIOD. Bigger than the decisions of the D.Williams unsigning, Booker Reese fiasco, Bo Jackson and Testaverde drafting and others all rolled into one!
June 18th, 2015 at 12:29 pm
If Lovie is giving Glennon so many reps for any reason OTHER than it’s an open competition, I am not a fan of his thinking. Glennon got a lot of reps last year, IIRC. Jameis needs all the work he can get.
June 18th, 2015 at 12:36 pm
@ bucco brice. What makes u think Mariota is more ready than Winston rite now? Cuz he took more 1st team reps? Pssh get outta hea (jersey accent)
June 18th, 2015 at 12:40 pm
Mariota’s with the 1’s …Winston 2’s …case closed…
June 18th, 2015 at 12:42 pm
bucco brice Says:
June 18th, 2015 at 12:25 pm
“I guess Mariota is more ready than Jameis. Go figure lol. I’m praying it’s not true”
No your not. Deep down you want Winston to fail. As you have yet to accept that he’s our QB and it still bothers you.
Your stance on how much you hate Winston is well documented on this site.
June 18th, 2015 at 12:43 pm
First of all, MM has no concept of how to run a pro offense and needs all the practice he can get.
Just to remind you:
1) Mariota didn’t take a single snap from under center during his college career.
2) Most of his WR’s were wide often because of the no-huddle, hurry-up/spread-option offense that lead to confusion and fatigue on the defense.
So, considering the above, it makes perfect sense for MM to use his down time to practice PRO QB techniques he missed in college with a bunch of “talent-challenged” receivers. I’m curious how a guy who never had to cal an audible in college is going to practice that in Hawaii, without a defense.
I’ve also read that the Titans have NO running game NO OL, NO WR’s and NO TE’s. In fact, the whole team, including the defense, is a dumpster fire. What’s worse is that their HC is as stubborn as an old mule and will try to squeeze Mariota into his playbook rather than being innovative enough (SMART??) to put together an offense scheme that fits the skill sets of the players he has to work with.
Now, compare the above to the Bucs. We at least have more positional strength going into the season than the Titans. Plus, L&L might start Glennon against the Titans just to thumb their noses at the networks.
The Titans really, REALLY STINK, period.
Check out their fan site on SBNation and be prepared to abandon all hope for their poor fans. Just Sad…!!!
June 18th, 2015 at 12:43 pm
bucco brice Says:
June 18th, 2015 at 12:40 pm
“Mariota’s with the 1’s …Winston 2’s …case closed…”
You want Winston to fail….case closed.
June 18th, 2015 at 12:48 pm
My apology for the misspellings in my post. I was laughing so hard at the idea of MM, Inc practicing in Hawaii without a center or defense that it’s just a joke. Surf’s-Up, Dude…!!!
June 18th, 2015 at 12:51 pm
@Buc1987….Yeah, I was very concerned about this pick, but I’m as diehard as they come. Wishing nothing but the best for my Bucs and Winston…I’m worried, and will continue to be until Winston proves himself. Been burnt too many times by management. Felt the same about Testeverde when he was drafted. Eery…
June 18th, 2015 at 1:15 pm
im not a fan of it…I say take this time to do chalkboard work or something….the nfl is a very long season take the time to get ready mentally because you’ll meaningful reps in training camp and preseason. underwear football isn’t fierce enough to foster any kind of ah ha moment without your coaches around, it’s too laid back as you can see by what happened with out offense year even though they practiced during the break
June 18th, 2015 at 1:22 pm
From everything I’ve read and heard Mariota is having zero problems adjusting to a “pro style offense” Lovie and Licht better pray that Mariota doesn’t set the league on fire, there jobs might just depend on it. Winston is our quarterback now and I guess I’ll have to accept it, but there’s a reason Glennon is getting most the first team reps, it’s because he’s the better quarterback right now. And to me that’s a huge red flag.
June 18th, 2015 at 2:05 pm
JOE: Anyone running on the second team, will make the team and NOT coaching “high school football” this fall and to call any professional football player or players “slugs” says more about you JOE than anything else. That kind of rhetoric is clearly not called for and you need to clean up your act!!!
June 18th, 2015 at 2:28 pm
As a season tkt holder I was VERY disappointed the bucs wanted to fill the stadium seats so the took the 2nd best qb in the draft but,,, I will pull for Winston to become a good qb for the team so…Go bucs!
June 18th, 2015 at 3:35 pm
Hes not adjusting with a real defense either. Then we will see if marcus can do it or not. These camps are in shirts and shorts . He better look good. And to the idiots posting on who is getting what reps. You’re not a nfl coach nor do you have knowledge that glennon looks better. The camp has been closed to the media most days. Different coaches have different mindsets. If its in training camp. …..Then id worry
June 18th, 2015 at 5:21 pm
ufcguy…correct, and besides they have been switching them both out with the 1’s and 2’s from what I’ve read.
Glennon and Winston are both getting first team reps…..yet some of you seem to think (hope) otherwise,
We all know who those people are.
June 18th, 2015 at 8:07 pm
Seriously? , are the Mariota’s jockstrap sniffers still around?…..You got to be kidding me!!
June 18th, 2015 at 8:07 pm
I wouldn’t say we made the right or wrong choice until the end of their second year at the earliest. They’re both going to throw a lot of INT’s and/or get sacked a lot. Too many variables at play. The OL play, coaching and the division they play in are all factors along with many others. I can already see it coming that if there is any success, the division will be a prominent excuse. They’re not even in pads yet, so let’s not get carried away with this. All the comments have been positive about work habits and ethic. So much for those of you wanting the next Jamarcus Russell.
If you haven’t already, google the Titans draft party for the video showing the reaction from their receivers. Disappointment to say the least.
Sadly, too many on here say they want the best, but then make cryptic statements showing they really would love to be able to say “Told you so”. Fortunately, some have gone away and picked a new name or accepted the cards dealt them and backed off.
I think Joe should troll harder and find a way to include America’s Quarterback in each sentence.
June 18th, 2015 at 9:40 pm
You can’t judge a player performance during OTA’S, this is rag tag football.Wait until preseason, then you separate the men from the boys, because players will be fighting for their football life.Everyone will be fighting for a spot on the final 53,you’re going to see some real hitting, guys trying to make the cut.
June 18th, 2015 at 10:41 pm
Mariota is the better quarterback, but that doesn’t mean Winston will suck.
June 19th, 2015 at 12:08 am
Mariota and Jameis will always be linked together. I for one am happy that we got Jameis. Much better QB and higher rated. Scouts and GMs have heard about this kid since his HS days. He came to Tampa wanting to win a SuperBowl and we will continue to build around him. Most analysts have said he was the next best thing to come out since Andrew Luck. I believe it too….we won the chase for Jameis. Not sloppy seconds to a guy that can’t take a snap under center, can’t call a play out loud. Has to look in the mirror late at night yelling plays into the mirror with his hands glued into his pocket. Want to be a Mariota fan, go buy his jersey. Go move to Tennessee. Get off this site and make a trip to Hawaii. No doubt….theres a storm coming. Jameis is the Sh*t, not sloppy seconds. Not Ryan Leaf or RG111. Get it, got it. Good. Go Bucs.
June 19th, 2015 at 10:08 am
“BuccaneerBonzai Says:
June 18th, 2015 at 10:41 pm
Mariota is the better quarterback”
You forgot the “in my opinion” part.
June 21st, 2015 at 10:05 pm
Winston working with 1st, 2nd and 3rd teams = More offensive reps in our new system. WHATS THE PROBLEM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO BUCS !!!!!!!