The Turnstile That Was Anthony Collins
May 28th, 2015
Bucs QBs were terrorized last season — no thanks to the ole’ blocking of left tackle Anthony Collins.
Yes, Joe has concerns about the offensive line and had concerns about it last season.
But never did Joe’s wildest dreams foresee the complete and total jailbreak it morphed into. It really was something to behold, and not in a good way.
And one can look no further than left tackle Anthony Collins, on whom the Bucs dropped quite a bit of Team Glazer cash, only to realize by Thanksgiving what a terrible mistake they had made. In fact, whole teams didn’t allow defenders to drill their own quarterbacks as much as Collins did to innocent Bucs signal-callers. It was nearly criminal.
Consider the stat numerologist Thomas Bassinger of the Tampa Bay Times dug up last night. You won’t need your morning ration of caffeine to get your blood pumping after reading the following.
QB hits allowed (sacks not included): #Bengals: 23 #Steelers: 21 #Packers: 19 #49ers: 16 Anthony Collins (#Bucs): 14 https://t.co/7ftAW9uVAk
— Thomas Bassinger (@tometrics) May 28, 2015
Joe read this and just wanted to throw beer bottles at the neighborhood stray cat that keeps crapping on Joe’s deck. That is just gutless football from Collins, who like his former teammate Da’Quan Bowers, is unemployed at this typing.
How can you go from prized free agent/starting left tackle in the NFL and, in less than a year, be unfit for even the CFL?
Oh, and what makes matters worse? Those teams Bassinger cited, they have a whole lot more snaps than Collins, who was effectively run off the team for the final month of the season.
.@kdonosaurus Good point. Collins’ QB hits allowed came in only 376 passing snaps. All other tackles who allowed 10+ played at least 577. — Thomas Bassinger (@tometrics) May 28, 2015
May 28th, 2015 at 7:21 am
Wow! Dreadful! Now there is a meaningful stat for you
May 28th, 2015 at 7:52 am
I would love to see stats like this on all our offensive linemen from last year (pressures/hits/sacks allowed). It would probably paint quite an (ugly!) picture.
May 28th, 2015 at 8:10 am
Collins was n0 doubt bad, but lets not forget McClown held onto the ball so long you would have thought his hands were coated with stickum.
May 28th, 2015 at 8:14 am
Addition by subtraction really plays a case in this one. What a lazy bum, I would give anything to be in his place last year yet he basically just got lazy and threw away a great opportunity.
May 28th, 2015 at 8:30 am
Collins & Bowers “America’s Unemployed NFL Players”
May 28th, 2015 at 8:35 am
But Donald Penn was 4-12……..
May 28th, 2015 at 8:52 am
no excuses for stats like that even having josh mccown and glennon as quarterbacks cant erase how he sat on his big payday
May 28th, 2015 at 9:17 am
I never understood the Collins move and had a nagging doubt that he would was an upgrade from Penn.
May 28th, 2015 at 9:26 am
McCown and Collins hand picked by incompetent Lovie Smith and his bobblehead lapdog GM. Where’s our Derrick Brooks-like apology? Oh yeah, that requires some professional integrity.
May 28th, 2015 at 9:41 am
I still think we should have kept him and see if he improved or kicked him inside to guard…y give up on a dude after one year? Even if he was terrible. I mean we held on to Leonard Johnson this long right?
May 28th, 2015 at 9:41 am
Incompetent enough to land the brightest star to come out the 2015 NFL draft. Thank you Mr.Lovie/Litht. Job d@$! well done.
May 28th, 2015 at 9:54 am
Nole- it takes a heroic amount of incompetence to earn the 1st overall pick in the draft. Don’t get me wrong, I am thrilled to have a real QB on the roster but let’s not forget that Lovie Smith tried and managed to lead his team to the worst record in all of football. Something that is very difficult to do. If the Bucs are successful it will be because of Winston and in spite of that base incompetent running the show.
May 28th, 2015 at 10:32 am
My guess is that Collins was so bad he affected the other linemen also, but again only Joe knows.
May 28th, 2015 at 10:51 am
@DallasBuc—-I am thrilled to have a real QB on the roster but let’s not forget that Lovie Smith tried and managed to lead his team to the worst record in all of football.
well whats it gonna be? you thrilled lovie led us to the worst record in the nfl or that we got Winston? you sure want lovie to fail really really bad that’s stalkerish hate for a team that had the 2-14 record the needle is pointing up and that’s whats the ownership cares about
May 28th, 2015 at 10:59 am
Preach Buc4lyfe cause this guy here…” Tried and lead”,more like whole organization was on board for the Jamies sweep stakes. Thank the Gods everyone was “all inn”…
May 28th, 2015 at 12:01 pm
You both are too funny.
Bucs4life- apparently it was somehow not clear so I will say it again. Lovie Smith is professionally incompetent and here is why: he hired his own little bobbleheaded lapdog of a GM, he hired the worst backup QB in all of football and made him a starter in March, he hand picked a no-name backup left tackle and made him a starter in March, he hand picked a flash in the pan defensive end that only had one accidental solid sack total season with zero accompanying film to support his ability AND made him a starter in March – all 3 of which were summarily fired after they helped us reach 2-14 at the conclusion of 2014. The one thing he did actually accomplish was to lead a bad 4-12 football team to 2-14 after turning over 50% of the roster.
There is no evidence to support that the tank was on prior to week 16 and very little certainty throughout the season that Winston would come out in the 2015 draft or be beyond his legal troubles if he did.
To sum it up for you, I am thrilled that we were lucky enough to have Winston available to us but horrified by the manner in which we have arrived at this modern franchise low. The reward of Winston is incidental, not the goal. The incompetence of Lovie Smith won us the the bottom of the league trophy. Dubious distinction not to be revised or sugarcoated.
May 28th, 2015 at 12:21 pm
You said alot there dallas,all of which you’ve stated before and much of which supports my tanking theory. Thanks guy.
May 28th, 2015 at 12:22 pm
QB hits and QB hurries last year.
Dotson – 2, 20
Mankins – 5, 14
Omameh – 6, 25
Smith – 4, 14
Cousins – 6, 19 (7 games)
Not just Collins. George Warhop?
May 28th, 2015 at 12:25 pm
The incompetence of Lovie? You really have a hard on against they guy. Lovie didn’t give the OC heart problems so we would end up with a QB coach as one. Every coach make bad signings, and this roster that he inherited from Mark was lacking depth at almost all position and need an overhaul. Yes he signed someone he was familiar with (McCown) Who doesn’t? He didn’t know Glennon or any other players on the roster for that matter. He came to a 4-12 team, and picked up people who had potential, it didn’t workout so now they are gone. You might as well suck it up, because Lovie will be here for at least 3 more years.
May 28th, 2015 at 12:32 pm
QB hits and QB hurries last year.
Collins – 14, 14
Dotson – 2, 20
Mankins – 5, 14
Omameh – 6, 25
Smith – 4, 14
Cousins – 6, 19 (7 games)
Not just Collins. George Warhop?
May 28th, 2015 at 1:28 pm
“You might as well suck it up, because Lovie will be here for at least 3 more years.”
What makes you so sure? Out of the last 4 Bucs coaches, how many were NOT fired before their contract was up? Lovie is on the hot seat, he may have a little wiggle room with a rookie QB but make no mistake another season like the one we had the unfortunate displeasure of seeing in 2014, and Lovie’s ass will be kicked out of Tampa with more force than it took to run Schiano out of town.
I find it funny you guys are piling on DallasBuc, when he states the facts. You honestly believe that the tank job was in from the beginning of the season? Just to get Jameis? When it was uncertain he would even come out? And the Titans almost beat us for the 1st pick? Gtfo here. Definitely a tank job near the end of the season, no doubt, but come on. Why play Glennon? Who was obviously better than McClown and won you your first game in Pittsburgh and almost another one against New Orleans? Hell, they even won a game with McClown against Washington and damn near another game in Cleveland. If that’s a tank job then Lovie’s not even good at that. Stop getting punch drunk off the Jameis kool aid for 5 freaking minutes and think.
May 28th, 2015 at 1:44 pm
WalkdaPlank-
Well out of the last few coaches we’ve hire, which one has had any success coaching in the pros at all? I do not see us having any season like last season any time soon. They will give him at least 4 years before firing him. Schiano was and inexperience dictator which rubbed people the wrong way. The high turnover with coaches for the Bucs is why we’ve been a crappy team for the last 7 years, so I don’t see the Glazers in a rush to start over again any time soon.
May 28th, 2015 at 1:50 pm
Walkdaplank come out the twilight zone man,who in their right mind believed Jamies and Jimbo when they gave that presser saying Jamies was staying in school.
May 28th, 2015 at 1:56 pm
If Lovie tanked at any point last season, it was before the season even started when he annointed the career back up as the starter without competition.
May 28th, 2015 at 2:11 pm
The Glazer Boys intended on tanking for 5 years when the hired Lovie. It’s very obvious, actions speak louder than words and they were dumb enough to give Lovie full control when he has not proven he could do the job. There was a reason he won ten games and was fired folks. stop mistaking lovie the nice guy with Lovie the head coach / personnel man. Two different subjects. good man / average to below average football guy…
3-3 playoff record lifetime
back to back playoffs only once in 10 years
Burnt through Offensive coordinators.
Horrible draft picks (chicago and tampa)
Horrible free agent signings
29 million plus dead money
2-14
0-8 home records
2 of the most embarrassing losses in NFL FREAKING HISTORY!!!!
those are Lovies accomplishments.
dallas and everyone else has a right to be skeptical of Lovie. Not only skeptical but every fan should be down right fearful that Lovie will not leave this team with a bunch of broken down, injury prone, system specific, has beens that never were’s when the glazers finally wake up.
May 28th, 2015 at 3:07 pm
tmaxcon- these poor fellas think being a “real” fan means you are required to be a fan of the HC but only when that HCs name is Lovie Smith, not when it is Raheem Morris or Greg Schiano. I am a fan of Tampa sports and a huge fan of my Bucs and I cannot express how broken my heart is that we were the absolute worst professional football team in 2014. Breaks my heart even more to see fans blame anyone else but the one man in charge of all football-related decisions that were so unbelievably poor and led to 2-14. Just so perplexing.
I am so tired of poor leadership decisions and bad football. People should stop making excuses for the people responsible and deflecting blame to poor guys like Arroyo. Lovie Smith has been a disaster as the Buccaneers HC and I am not going to stop shouting it until either we start winning football games DUH or that incompetent fool is replaced. “Kinda simple as that!”
May 28th, 2015 at 3:09 pm
How easy it is to display the Trac record of another man’s body of work. Wonder what you look like on paper. I could go thru his many accomplishments but why bother. I’ll sit back and listen to and your bros stew over this man and his job here in Tampa for next decade. Your hope for him to be gone will be your torment. I’ll enjoy every minute.
May 28th, 2015 at 3:16 pm
dallas
i am the same exact way. it’s not personal I could give a rat’s arse about lovie the person it’s the coach / personnel man that time and time again proves he is not up for the job… i am not sure how he receives such a free pass with such obviously bad statistics. wins and superbowls are all that matter. I don’t care how many top ten defenses you have until they start having super bowl parades for that than it’s irrelevant. I don’t care he kisses babies and players think he is swell. does he win? simple as that. 5 to 10 years from now the bucs will still be the bucs with an entire different staff / player pool and life goes on. i am not nostalgic. I could careless about the past what are you going to win for me this year.
NOLE,,
I respect and appreciate your optimism and support for lovie. no I am far from perfect but we are all judged on our last success or failure nothing personal like I mentioned i could careless about lovie. just win that’s all i care about .
May 28th, 2015 at 3:16 pm
Tmaxcon
Horrible draft picks in Tampa? Can you please clarify? The picks have only been on the team for one season.
Bucs win Playoff record for the last 10 years – 0
Even making the playoffs in the last 8 years – 0
head coaches in the last 10 years 4
Offensive Coordinators in the last 10 years – 6
Horrible signing and dead money – Too many to count
2 winning seasons in the last 10 years.
One of the worst Franchise in the last 8 years.
Almost set the NFL record of worst defense in the 2012
I can keep going.
That’s Bucs accomplishments
Our Previous GM was one of the Worst GM that we had. Dominik philosophy of never drafting an Olineman, because they can be picked up, bad drafts year in and year out. Yes Lovie wasn’t great in Chicago and yes you have the right to be skeptic. some of these comments are just negative for just the sake of being negative.
May 28th, 2015 at 3:26 pm
sneed
so you saying that because the bucs have been horrible it’s ok to accept mediocre with lovie for 5 years… I guess you are also good with continuing the trend of horrible play. at best you are ok with accepting mediocrity because that’s all you will get out of lovie. just like dungy they will have to replace Loive to get the team over the hump let’s just hope vjax, mccoy and lvd are not on social security by then. i would hate to see what happened to gruber happen to McCoy because everyone wants to preach patience and not raise the standards.
May 28th, 2015 at 3:40 pm
tmaxcon
Mediocre? Trend? So 3 losing seasons in 9 years is mediocrecy? Making it to the super bowl having multiple winning season is your definition of mediocre I want to see who you know out there is doing better? I’m not saying Lovie is a world beater, but calling his career mediocre down right silly. 5-11 his first season in Chicago to a 11-5 season the following year that is a trend. You can’t just inherit a mediocre team and expect him to pull a winning season with at most depth depleted, Overprice signed roster. We didn’t have the luck of having a good team with a bad coach, we had a creepy team, horrible GM, and an experienced head coach.
May 28th, 2015 at 4:13 pm
Sneed
Lovie has a career winning percent .568 yes that is mediocre
Not to mention well under 500 against teams with winning records now that’s mot mediocre that’s bad
His career playoff record is 3-3 once again mediocre
May 28th, 2015 at 4:21 pm
Nole- That is a reach IMO, Lovie had the chance to take Teddy or Johnny and passed, twice if you consider it would’ve been easy to trade up for one of them. Quite a gamble if you pass on a sure-fire chance to get a potentially good QB just so you can tank and MAYBE have another opportunity to get a potentially good QB. Again, the Bucs almost lost the Chase for Jameis even while tanking. There’s just too much smoke and mirrors and gambling for me to believe it, that tanking was the plan the moment Lovie was hired. It seems much more likely to me that Lovie’s plan blew up in his face when his OC bailed on the Bucs, and his big money FA’s played like high schoolers, and he had no idea how to recover, so he figured he would try and get Winston.
Sneedy – I admire your optimism, but I moved on from that after Schiano. I will support my team no matter theHereford, but will not stand by and watch the team I love and watch and pay money to support be ruined by someone running it into the ground. I liked Freeman, he had talent and gave us a lot of good games from 2010 and 2012, but I just could not support him any longer after it was clear he was a cancer to the locker room. Same for Aqib Talib, same for Kellen Winslow, same for Tanard Jackson, same for Rah, same for Schiano, and same for Lovie. I really like the potential we have with guys like Winston, Evans, Vjax, LVD, GMC, and others. But without a good plan, and good coaching, their careers (especially Winston) will be wasted potential. Lovie would be a great DC, but so far has shown that he is a poor manager of both the Bears and the Bucs. He doesn’t have the first clue on how to run an offense, and makes very poor personnel decisions. I’ll support what he brings to the table this season, because he is the HC, but call me pessimistic.
May 28th, 2015 at 4:25 pm
*no matter the record
May 28th, 2015 at 4:44 pm
tmaxcon
Well Tampa have always had Mediocre coaches then. John Gruden was hot garbage if Lovie is Mediocre then. His winning percentage was .540 with a playoff record of 5-4 with the only winning season was his 1st and 1 and done ever since. Even Tom Coughlin is has a winning percentage of .539. Your definition of mediocre is over kill to be honest. Marvin Lewis is one and done in the playoffs for the past 12 years. Playoff record is 0-6 with a .526 win percentage and they renewed his contract. That is mediocre and the fans have to live with it. That is one that I couldn’t deal with, luck you’re not a Bengal fan or you will want to have given up.
May 28th, 2015 at 4:50 pm
WalkdaPlank
I can understand where you are coming from. The only reason why I’m optimistic is from what I have heard Lovie has no real decision in the offensive players or play-calling anymore. Licht and Koetter is the main influence on the offensive side of the ball, because they want Koetter to be able to build his own offense, so they allow him to pick his own players. Hopefully it is true, but I don’t know I hear a lot of things.
May 28th, 2015 at 5:54 pm
Tmax and Walkdaplank I appreciate the time you’ve put into this debate. I also appreciate you speedy for feeling where I’m coming from on my side of these views. Tmax and walk I can respect you guys stance because I’ve actually read positive post from each of you pertaining to this team before. Now as for that dallas fella,every post I’ve read of his has negative since I found this site. I’m not just like this on line. I’ve almost came to blows many Times over years in sports bars defending the Buccs. It doesn’t make me a better or worse fan than any one on here. But if all I read from you pertaining to this team,then man we in line
May 28th, 2015 at 6:51 pm
Nole- so let me get this straight…we are gonna “line up” because I don’t meet your positivity requirements for the Bucs? That’s a good reason!
It really is true that people see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear. When you read my positive posts about Winston or most of the other players in this draft that doesn’t count? What about the positive things I say about Lavonte David, Mike Evans, Vincent Jackson? I guess it didn’t count when I was excited about hiring Lovie Smith before he screwed the pooch on every single football decision he has made since?
You can use fighting words with me all you want because I don’t reach your Bucs positivity meter but you have to at least acknowledge how ridiculous it sounds! You do realize that my name isn’t really DallasBuc and anonymity is how this all works?
My guess is if we actually met at a bar we would not disagree on much and not be “lining up”
May 28th, 2015 at 9:27 pm
Look dude I mention me almost getting into it with people over the years bad mouthing the Buccs in sports bars to make a point about how personal I do take it listening someone talk smack about the squad. I give achit who it is. Hell Obama could be in the bar talking noise I’m bound to say something. Don’t know you personally,and I think we share in the sentiment of not desiring to know eachother personally. So don’t take my response in a personal way homes. You have yours and I have mines. Like A holes everyone has one. It is opinion here at joebuc they will be expressed.