Bigger Targets = More Success?
May 6th, 2015
Last weekend was an absolute blur. First, the draft is one of Joe’s busiest times of the year. It flies by. That’s a good thing.
It was made memorable (historic?) by the Bucs selecting Jameis Winston first overall. Finally, a quarterback!
Now some folks criticize Winston for being too aggressive at Florida State. First, that is nonsense. Seminoles coach Jimbo Fisher wanted Winston to be aggressive. Who the hell do you think was calling the plays?
Of course, pushing the envelope may have developed bad habits — Winston’s apparent non-fear of picks. Winston critics believe this will come back to bite him in the arse in the NFL.
Evan Silva is not among them. The NFL analyst for Rotoworld.com believes Winston’s Tampa Bay targets are a perfect marriage for a gunslinger like him.
Jameis’ aggressiveness should have better results with VJax (6’5/241) & Evans (6’5/231) than Rashad Greene (5’11/182) & N OLeary (29″ arms).
— Evan Silva (@evansilva) May 4, 2015
Let’s not forget that Austin Seferian-Jenkins is also a big dude, too.
This an interesting observation. Winston’s targets are bigger (and better, clearly) than what he threw to at Florida State.
Of course, the defensive backs covering Winston’s new targets will be a whole lot better as well.
May 6th, 2015 at 1:06 pm
The famous Jamis trainwreck continues. Now there are reports that he refused to talk to ESPN after the draft…………..#thenewfaceofthebucsisajoker
May 6th, 2015 at 1:08 pm
except he did. he just delayed it until it was convenient for him.
You can pull up the interview on espn.com if you want.
May 6th, 2015 at 1:23 pm
TpaBayFlyFisher…thanks we already covered that topic a week ago.
Why are some of you fans so out of the loop?
Besides most of us agreed about the reason why he declined that smear network
ESPN.
Apparently ESPN means something you you…
Ya see everyone it does not matter what he does. There’s always going to be some moron making something out of nothing.
Screw ESPN btw.
May 6th, 2015 at 1:23 pm
about JW’s aggressiveness — Jimbo Fisher was fond of saying about his quarterbacks, “I’d rather have to say ‘Whoa’ than ‘Giddy up’.” And it’s true, easier to teach that way …. Jameis will learn to walk the line between aggressiveness and recklessness, even if he has to learn the hard way. And yes, bigger targets will definitely help … “catch radius” and all that.
FlyFisher — that news came out a couple days ago, in a Deitsch column. Said his handlers (agents?) made the decision. Not a big deal IMO, just changed the order of the interviews.
May 6th, 2015 at 1:23 pm
TPA Bay Fisher – Come on dude, take a rest.
Schtick is tired already
May 6th, 2015 at 1:25 pm
That is OLD news. Why are you bringing it up now? You can’t find anything else negative to talk about?
May 6th, 2015 at 1:26 pm
joe already talked about that and im glad he thumbed his nose up at espn, if he didn’t like the way they portrayed him during the draft it’s his choice to give the interview to whomever he wanted and he gave it to NFL Network so what who cares. And as you can see no one thinks highly of him impacting the bucs in a positive way in terms of wins….screw espn
you cats are like overemotional teenage girls overanalyzing this guy….better quarterback play equals better success
May 6th, 2015 at 1:35 pm
I want to respond to the people who have an issue with Jameis snubbing BSPN.
First of all, they have been hammering the guy constantly since he decided to come out for the draft. Every different version of the rape allegation has been slanted against him except the fact that there are MANY different versions. They have never once reported his version at all.
As for the crab incident, BSPN had Winston’s explanation on tape for months but ran with the story that he walked in and walked out with crabs and they wondered why he would or could do such a thing. Then they acted like it was such a revelation that he “supposedly” had a hookup when anyone in their right mind, KNEW it was a hookup.
He has an obligation to interview with them but I’m glad he chose to give the first interview elsewhere.
BSPN has proven time and again that they care about ratings and not accurate reporting. Don’t we have enough of that going on in the media?
By the way, kudos goes out to the local media (Joe, Gil, Mark) covering the Bucs (most of them anyway) who have been very balanced and tried to put the real story out on Winston.
May 6th, 2015 at 1:36 pm
This is a good wakeup call to anyone thinking he had elite talent last year. His primary targets went in the 4th and 6th rounds and neither are projected to be difference makers. His o-line was dissapointing in general until late in the year even though they got some players drafted. Terrible defense and no run game. Yet undefeated again.
May 6th, 2015 at 1:37 pm
gotta say, I’m excited to see what the bucs can do this year. I’ll watch all the preseason games with the espn thingy and see if they look like contenders and make the call from there.
the dolphins are getting stacked though…decisions, decisions.
May 6th, 2015 at 1:43 pm
he chose to speak with the NFL network first, not really an “off field concern” lol
And I agree Joe.
with two big guys and possibly kenny bell’s speed Jameis Winston should have better results.
If you look at his first year Winston’s INT total was significantly lower as he had better targets to throw too.
Koetter will also work with Winston to fine tune his aggressiveness. I am excited to have a QB who knows how to throw receivers open and throw with anticipation. thats a talent that not all QBs have. Winston already has it, fine tuning that ability is what can make Winston an Elite QB.
Of course that’s not a prediction, as he will have to improve in that area. but the fact that he has that ability puts him on the fast track for success
May 6th, 2015 at 1:46 pm
lets stop touting kenny bell like he’s going to be victor cruz
more like tiquan underwood.
May 6th, 2015 at 1:47 pm
DOH! *facepalm*
May 6th, 2015 at 2:02 pm
TpaBayFlyFisher – It’s touching and wonderful that you’re here on a blog site defending that multi-billion dollar sports conglomerate ESPN from the evil seafood loving devil that is Jameis Winston. I’m sure you’ll get a giant thank you card from Skip Bayless himself.
Relax Francis, I’m sure ESPN will survive being 2nd in an interview chase.
May 6th, 2015 at 2:03 pm
@robert9 – You want to substantiate that claim somehow? Seems like a baseless detraction to me. What similarities to Underwood’s game do you see?
May 6th, 2015 at 2:09 pm
The guy is a late round pick. looks pretty thin, just like underwood, crazy hair, just like underwood, fast….
to me he’s just another late round roll of the dice, while others are getting all giddy.
May 6th, 2015 at 2:11 pm
robert 9 Says:
May 6th, 2015 at 1:46 pm
lets stop touting kenny bell like he’s going to be victor cruz
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no one knew victor cruz was going to be who he was, that’s the excitement of football. there will always be room on the bandwagon for fans with no faith in the process and that’ll be negative about this draft class before they take the field
May 6th, 2015 at 2:16 pm
“robert 9 Says:
May 6th, 2015 at 1:46 pm”
:looks out office window:
:doesn’t see Biscayne Bay:
Hmmmm, so, I am not in Miami, but…..hmmmm
May 6th, 2015 at 2:18 pm
just the intercoastal out my window. rather be fishing….
May 6th, 2015 at 2:42 pm
Ok by me if he never talks to BSPN.
They have already had articles on the “flawed investigation” by the bucs, even though they have no idea what the investigation consisted of.
Their just pissed that they set out to destroy this kid, and failed to do so.
May 6th, 2015 at 2:50 pm
Winston supporters….please quit taking the bait every time some fool makes a negative comment…you are only encouraging the debate to continue needlessly.
I, for one am read for some action….very willing to root for Winston’s success which will translate to Bucs success.
May 6th, 2015 at 2:51 pm
ready for some action….
May 6th, 2015 at 2:56 pm
Robert9 is either a fan of another team or he really needs to change his name to Captain Doom because I swear I have never read anything positive from him about any current Bucs players or personnel. I was actually hoping he would go away after we drafted Winston but I guess there are plenty of other rookies, veterans and coaches to dog out.
May 6th, 2015 at 3:06 pm
🙂
I’ve seen him speak highly of many, many players
May 6th, 2015 at 3:13 pm
Here is what your face of the franchise has been up to the past couple of days.
http://www.al.com/living/index.ssf/2015/05/jameis_winston.html
May 6th, 2015 at 4:07 pm
Can our shiny new LT catch??
May 6th, 2015 at 4:32 pm
I can see them having a JUMBO package with Reid Fragel (new T but former TE) as an eligible tackle and Iosefa (powerful FB who can catch and play QB) in the backfield. With Jameis with all those options in the red zone the Bucs should be pretty dangerous near the goal line.
May 6th, 2015 at 6:03 pm
we’re gonna be awesome….
that is all
May 6th, 2015 at 6:35 pm
When Gruden sat down with Winston he zeroed in one reason for Winston’s INT’s. One predominant reason was he kept trying to force the ball into his favorite receiver and I believe roommate on the road.
Hopefully the Bucs will put Winston in a room with Even Smith or Gerald McCoy to detour that problem from arising again.
May 6th, 2015 at 8:07 pm
Louis Friend – a round of applause for that one!!!!
May 6th, 2015 at 8:13 pm
robert 9 Says:
May 6th, 2015 at 1:46 pm
lets stop touting kenny bell like he’s going to be victor cruz
more like tiquan underwood.
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Now I have to go kill myself. I said the same thing on here a day or two after he was drafted….and it had nothing to do with hair. Build, speed, hands…. Bell is a very good blocker though, which was what I said he did better than Underwood.
May 6th, 2015 at 9:10 pm
Tpabayflyfisher Bahahahaha your an idiot
May 6th, 2015 at 9:22 pm
I also couldnt help but be reminded of Tiquan when we drafted Bell. Same dude, but Bell plays special teams which is why Tiquan didnt stick.
May 6th, 2015 at 11:39 pm
Nick O’Leary was Winston’s closest friend and road game roommate.
I found it telling that ESPN shot a week’s worth of footage and they focused so heavily on every single INT Winston threw. They never mentioned if it was 3rd and long just outside of field goal range, seconds left in the half or any context of the situation. They hardly even mentioned that Green was his only decent receiver last year.
May 7th, 2015 at 12:58 am
Kenny Bell leaves Nebraska as its all time receiver in yards. That doesn’t say much, but he was a 5th round draft pick. Not expecting a lot from him anyways. We will be lucky if we talk about the 1st three draft picks for years to come….knowing our draft history. However it is always exciting when we conclude our drafts. Jameis to Vjax, Evans, and ASJ will be a great thing to watch this season. IF we can throw in Bell and Murphy that will be a plus. Even C. Sims too. I hope the best for Bell. If he can develop to what they think he can be, than as a 5th rounder to make an impact this year is a big plus. This time last year I thought maybe Herron was a good pickup in the 6th round and we all know how that turned out. Now enter K. Clay.
May 7th, 2015 at 7:56 am
Kenny Bell had 50 more catches and 750 more yards receiving, as well as 450 more return yards in college than Tiquan. Bell is MUCH more physical, and can actually run routes (whereas Tiquan was simply a straight-line runner). Anyone comparing the two is looking at the hair and speed, and nothing else. Bell will be an outstanding compliment to VJ and Evans.
May 7th, 2015 at 11:41 am
Herron plays one year and most of you are writing him off. I can’t stand you people. All you care about is the now, none of you have patience to see if it take maybe a few years for a guy like Herron to become a better player. Typical dumb football fans, you think I a guy isn’t good from day one he’s not good at all. Can’t wait to see how you all respond when Winston struggles. The college game is much less talented than the NFL so before we just say oh, that guy isn’t good in 2 seconds, he sucks. Come on man, give these guys a chance to develop for at least 3 years than dub him a good or bad player. I can’t stand Winston, but yet I’m not going to say he was a good or bad pick until he proves me right or wrong after a few years. Do I know this may be asking a lot from most of you idiots but have patience with the young guys.
May 7th, 2015 at 4:38 pm
@Caleb,
I don’t think everyone is writing him off. At least not as much as L&L. Of course it takes time to develop, especially a 5-7th round pick. Herron did catch 1 TD last year when he got on the field. It was heavily noted that he all of the sudden got a case of butterfingers for most of the year. Same thing with RB Rainey regarding his fumbles. That is why these guys didn’t see the field. I would like to see Herron develop, but now after drafting 2 receivers in the 5-6th round this year he will have a lot of competition for time and a roster spot. When he gets/got his opportunity he knows he has to make the best of it,..and so far he has not. This is a win now league. Hopefully he steps up this year and shows improvement or he will be on the practice squad or playing for another team.