WInston-VJax Meeting Not Staged
April 28th, 2015
When the Bucs paraded Jameis Winston around One Buc Palace in March, the multimedia wing of Buccaneers.com made sure to play it up big time. And it got a lot of run.
One photo released of Winston was his meeting with wide receiver Vincent Jackson. It smelled planned.
Not so, said Jackson, who called the skin-slapping a chance encounter.
“It was kind of random, actually,” Jackson said. “I was just here working out and he visited. I was in the weight room and he was walking around touring the facility and [Bucs officials] introduced him to me.
“We talked for about two minutes. Wasn’t very long at all. Nice kid. Seemed bright. Obviously, it is a very exciting time of his life with all the traveling and that stuff.”
Of course, there is always the chance the Bucs trade the pick and Winston goes elsewhere. So it is not set in stone Winston is coming to town; only a 99.9 percent chance. Jackson was careful not to discuss Winston as a teammate quite yet.
“He’s a very talented player,” Jackson said. Winston has had a “special career winning the national championship. That is something to recognize. Lot of respect for his game.
“Any time you can add great players it will help you. I ill try to help with the learning curve as much as I can, whoever comes in.”
Jackson beamed when he was reminded of the “Game Changers” episode on the NFL Network when, with Steve Mariucci, Winston diagrammed a play on the greaseboard and pointed to a receiver and said, “I hope that is Vincent Jackson.”
“I heard about it,” Jackson said with a huge smile. “That’s pretty cool. [Winston’s] mindset is to get ready for that next level.”
April 28th, 2015 at 1:42 pm
can’t help but smile when I see this pic, Jameis throwing to VJax and Evans will be an explosive combo
and if you’ve ever watched the Jameis/O’Leary combo don’t sleep on ASJ
April 28th, 2015 at 1:43 pm
Why no mention of today’s article on mmqbsi.com JoeBuc?
http://mmqb.si.com/2015/04/28/kirby-dick-the-hunting-ground-jameis-winston-erica-kinsman/
You guys always cite Peter King’s site as a valuable source of information.
April 28th, 2015 at 1:45 pm
So glad we still have V-Jax on this team. He’s not the most outspoken, rah-rah, in-your-face type of guy, but he leads by example. Class act.
April 28th, 2015 at 1:52 pm
Jordan:
Without going into detail, it’s bulls(p)it. Thanks for linking. First Joe saw of it.
April 28th, 2015 at 1:54 pm
@Jordan no need to talk about that slanted movie.
April 28th, 2015 at 1:59 pm
ESPN special, GM roundtable just ripped Winston a new azzhole.
#DP #HGH #PEDs #MushBrainRetard
April 28th, 2015 at 2:00 pm
Even liberal outlets have called Hunting Ground a pretty poor attempt at investigative documenting.
As for JW and VJax: match made in heaven
April 28th, 2015 at 2:10 pm
3 Jameis Watch articles in one day? Joe you need to call that Viagra number for a hard on lasting more than 4 hours.
April 28th, 2015 at 2:14 pm
Uh, oh. Now you started it. 🙂
April 28th, 2015 at 2:16 pm
In reading the article, correct me if I’m wrong, but his basic point was the girl is credible because when he sat down with her, she is very believable. Really? No specifics, no facts, no details, just the feeling you get when speaking to her. So we are somehow supposed to forget about her already lying by changing her story 3 times, yet we should believe her face to face because she sounds believable??? Am I missing something?
April 28th, 2015 at 2:18 pm
@Barry,
Keep on using hashtags buddy. #Barrythinkshescool #barrywatcheslifetime #barrykissedaboyandhelikedit
April 28th, 2015 at 2:18 pm
https://youtu.be/Q1uwRLSIzdE
Didn’t see that clip. First I ever heard of it.
April 28th, 2015 at 2:19 pm
Who cares if it was staged? I would actually HOPE it was staged. That meant the Bucs wanted the opinion of the WR who would be catching JW’s throws. They would want to know that they could get along together.
BTW… you can’t place the Vegas bet on the Bucs taking Winston. They won’t take the action. LOL Saw that on Tomahawk-dot-com via my FB wall.
April 28th, 2015 at 2:20 pm
#barryiscool
#barry=jamesdean
#hatersgonnahate
April 28th, 2015 at 2:21 pm
Hunting for cash grounds maybe……
April 28th, 2015 at 2:27 pm
#5
April 28th, 2015 at 2:29 pm
V-jax looks a little out of shape.
April 28th, 2015 at 2:29 pm
“Winston to Jackson”…”Touchdown Vincent Jackson!” – Gene Deckerhoff 2015
April 28th, 2015 at 2:31 pm
How about one of the famous JBF polls about whether we should put the JBF comments section out of its misery finally. Love the articles. Love the insight. Cannot take the folks that take over the comments section with their nonsense. I vote to put it down.
April 28th, 2015 at 2:36 pm
Patrick in VA
Reading the comments is not required, and completely optional. It is a much better place on game day I assure you and during the offseason it is a good place for frustrated fans of a 2-14 team to vent.
April 28th, 2015 at 2:37 pm
Changing your account of events are actually very common in cases involving trauma, or any cases for that matter. Try to recap your day last Wednesday beginning to end, what you were wearing, what you had for breakfast, who you spoke to…what about even as recent as yesterday?
I think it’s easy to call something “bullspit” instead of searching for a truth which usually lies in the middle. If the act started consensual and became more aggressive against a partner’s will, does that make it okay? I have a very strong opinion on that, but I’ll listen in on 620 today to hopefully hear Joe’s side.
April 28th, 2015 at 2:45 pm
Hope MMQB, looks into the other side, the truthful side and reports on that tommorrow instead of being all in on one side
April 28th, 2015 at 2:47 pm
Off Topic:
Houston looking to trade D.J. Swearinger!!!
CB Alterraun Verner
• [*FS] D.J. Swearinger
• [SS] Bradley McDougald
(SB) Sterling Moore
CB Johnthan Banks
That’s a Good Look for a Young Defensive Backfield
Pick’em Up Licht!!
April 28th, 2015 at 2:49 pm
@jordan
Google “Jameis Winston Chapter 3”. If you are truly concerned about the allegations and the investigation, you owe to yourself to read the facts and the evidence, including her own witnesses. Read it with an open mind, and tell me what you think.
April 28th, 2015 at 2:50 pm
“Changing your account of events are actually very common in cases involving trauma, or any cases for that matter. Try to recap your day last Wednesday beginning to end, what you were wearing, what you had for breakfast, who you spoke to…what about even as recent as yesterday?
I think it’s easy to call something “bullspit” instead of searching for a truth which usually lies in the middle. If the act started consensual and became more aggressive against a partner’s will, does that make it okay? I have a very strong opinion on that, but I’ll listen in on 620 today to hopefully hear Joe’s side.”
I thought people can typically remember traumatic events in great detail? The more traumatic / eventful moments of my life are the ones I purposefully remember the most.
There is no science that supports her timeline of memory lapses and changes in her story. The fact that her story changed in connection with new evidence coming out just makes it that much worse.
April 28th, 2015 at 2:51 pm
meant to say “personally” not purposefully
April 28th, 2015 at 2:52 pm
@LUVMYBUCS U want licht to trade our entire defensive backfield? Guys who were showing improvements in the tampa 2 system for guys playing in a 3-4? Not even close
April 28th, 2015 at 2:52 pm
Oh, JOE KNOWS….he knows that Infamous “just got a little too handsy”…right Joe??? Comments like those are truly despicable. And correct, I’m not over that comment. It burns. Badly. It’s demeaning.
And it just goes to show….this article is about whether the VJax/Infamous meeting was staged, and the postings have once again swerved off the interstate, and back on the the emergency lane of Infamous’ character and stupidity/selfishness/theft, whatever. It won’t end if he’s drafted by the Bucs on Thursday.
April 28th, 2015 at 2:55 pm
delson Said:
“https://youtu.be/Q1uwRLSIzdE
Didn’t see that clip. First I ever heard of it.”
Why did they keep taking the camera off of the woman in the yellow dress? That other stuff going on in a stadium disrupted an excellent program. ;^)
April 28th, 2015 at 2:56 pm
“Mariota Joe Says:
April 28th, 2015 at 2:52 pm
It won’t end if he’s drafted by the Bucs on Thursday.”
You will be selling your Bucs gear, right? You won’t have anything to worry about then.
April 28th, 2015 at 2:57 pm
I would have LOVED to interview this guy and ask better questions. These questions were all catered to the director to talk up the film.
Namely; I would want to hear his explanation for her being tested twice for over 170 something drugs and coming up negative; yet saying she was drugged in the documentary?
How come she did not testify in the Title IX investigation that she was drugged or thought she was drugged? Why did she make the crux of her argument about being “intimidated” into leaving? And then why did she make her argument on this documentary about being drugged after not using that argument in the Title IX investigation?
Why did Kinsman’s account of what happened change so dramatically and times when new evidence was presented?
How come the Documentary didn’t interview and get Winston’s side of the story if they think it important the NFL teams interview Kinsman?
That’s just off the top of my head. I could probably destroy this guy if I did another case review and had my shit in order with lots more questions
April 28th, 2015 at 2:58 pm
Forgetting my daily activities and saying I was “struck in the head and drugged and raped” probably not quite as good of a comparison lol. I mean seriously you actually think this girl is credible is beyond ridiculous at this point
April 28th, 2015 at 3:09 pm
Changing your story as it relates to time and color of clothing is common. Changing story about being knocked in the head, being waisted and not knowing someone is totally different, especially after you are called out on it.
April 28th, 2015 at 3:12 pm
@delson
Nah, brotha I was saying that a defensive back including the following players…..
CB Alterraun Verner
• FS D.J. Swearinger
• SS Bradley McDougald
(SB) Sterling Moore
CB Johnthan Banks
Was the makings of a– Good Young Aggressive/Fast defensive backfield.
I been watching DJ play for a long time brotha-He was ALL SEC Free Safety-When he played for the GAMECOCKS. Collecting Recording 244 tackles, 6 interceptions and 3 touchdowns. Dudes a beast buh-Runs in the Low 4.6’s
Recap Draft Bio –Strengths & Weaknesses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPW4yDBqEG4
April 28th, 2015 at 3:15 pm
@delson
Ref: Old Post
LUVMYBUCS Says:
February 16th, 2013 at 11:40 am
@Joe
Yeah, this is the 1st time I’ve been able to save the entire season on my hardrive. To cure my football Jones. Sure Ronde did make some splash plays, but you can make a stronger case that he was out of place 2/3 of the season. With the entire secondary picking up its play the finally 1/3 of the season.
And Poor Ahmad black is completely overmatched against TE ‘s.
Everyone keeps talking about we need corners, but outside of Barron. Our Safeties are lacking bigtime. Injuries have derailed a ounce promising career of Cody “The Werewolf” Grimm. So we need depth behind Barron
Prospects to watch:
SS
6-0 209 Jonathan Cyprien (2nd Round Projection)
6-0 211 Shawn Williams (3-4th Round Projection)
5-11 214 JJ Wilcox (4-5th Round Projection)
should also intrigue the organization:
FS
5-11 210 D.J. Swearinger (3-4th Round Projection)
6-1 212 Robert Lester (5-6th Round Projection)
6-1 213 Rashard Hall (7th Round Projection)
April 28th, 2015 at 3:20 pm
@LUVMYBUCS I misread ur first comment n I agree we need a safety badly. Especially a coverage type guy earl thomas would be a perfect type. Either ur a cover guy or ur not at least that’s the case in tampa.
April 28th, 2015 at 3:27 pm
@delson
No worries brotha-And I feel what your saying-And I agree as well.
IMO-Dj is very similar to Kenny Vaccaro
-Both are instinctive, explosive dudes.
-Both can man up in the slot.
Yeah he would be a solid pick up.
April 28th, 2015 at 3:42 pm
joe posted an article this a.m. that showed how upset Charley Casserly of NFL network got when a non staged question got asked. I imagine most teams stage photos also. I don’t see the big deal in that. the bucs are going to pick Winston. I don’t like it. I have expressed that numerous times in my comments. but, I have come to accept it. if Winston is a buc I will support him….
April 28th, 2015 at 4:24 pm
Chris Hackett inthe 4th round looks like a good prospect @LUVMYBUCS
April 28th, 2015 at 4:38 pm
@Love and Warrick Dunn
Thanks for the article. I must say, it has given me a lot of pause and forcing me to reexamine many of my thoughts (though I hate the author cited Winston’s charm and intelligence as reasons he would likely not be guilty of sexual assault…Darren Sharper). I am still hard pressed to believe something bad did not happen that night and may not ever be comfortable with the selection of Winston but this was certainly an article which should be read in properly examining the case as an outsider.
April 28th, 2015 at 5:01 pm
No, it wasn’t staged. He just happened to be working out at team facilities on the day Winston’s visit was announced.
Are we really supposed to buy this?
April 28th, 2015 at 5:02 pm
@Jordan, I think if more people read it with and open mind, there would not be as much vitriol on this site and others.
April 28th, 2015 at 5:08 pm
Delson please stop posting videos. Thank u
April 28th, 2015 at 5:09 pm
Patrick in VA Says
How about one of the famous JBF polls about whether we should put the JBF comments section out of its misery finally.
The thing I liked about the old Buccaneers message board was the ability to ignore commenters so their comments didn’t show on your screen.
This isn’t a message board, but man, would it be great to have the ability to do that or what?
April 28th, 2015 at 5:26 pm
Love and Warrick Dunn Says:
You will be selling your Bucs gear, right? You won’t have anything to worry about then
I care about the TEAM more than I care about Infamous, however, I simply cannot root for a team that decides to make him the face of the franchise. And I am NOT alone. There is no doubt, the fan base is split and at an impasse. Drafting Mariota fixes that. If they draft Infamous, wear your Number 5 proudly. If you have a daughter, tell her all about Infamous. But make sure you tell her everything.
April 28th, 2015 at 6:18 pm
They were lucky to play auburn the year they won the national championship as they were the 4th best team in the sec
April 28th, 2015 at 6:27 pm
@MJ
So long. I hope this schism doesn’t bring the Glazers to bankruptcy. LOL.
And if you have a son, tell him about Jameis, Duke Lacrosse, Brian Banks, Ray McDonald, UVA, and other instances that make it that much harder for true victims to make their voice be heard.
April 28th, 2015 at 6:29 pm
@mariota joe
Can’t wait for Thursday! You and the others that are changing teams once Jameis is drafted can start sailing your ships to Miami then to maybe Jacksonville. Don’t worry the FSU fans will fill the hole of you guys leaving.
April 28th, 2015 at 7:44 pm
I am a psychiatrist, and I can promise you that rape victims DO NOT AND I REPEAT DO NOT change their stories multiple times. I am amazed that I keep referencing the Duke lacrosse team in my posts, but no one responds to that. Watch an episode of Criminal Minds and you will see how the police make people remember smells and other things they didn’t think they could remember. Rape victims do NOT make major changes to their stories. Have fun being ignorant and pulling for another team (which you haters won’t have the balls to do) when we draft this game changing badass!!
April 28th, 2015 at 8:20 pm
He’s the one they call Dr. Feelgood
He’s the one that makes ya feel alright
He’s the one they call Dr. Feelgood
He’s gonna be your Frankenstein I’ve got one thing you’ll understand
He’s not what you’d call a glamorous man
Got one thing that’s easily understood
He’s the one they call Dr. Feelgood – Motley Crue
April 28th, 2015 at 8:24 pm
Mariota Whiner Joe Says :
“If you have a daughter, tell her all about Infamous. But make sure you tell her everything.”
You don’t need to or have any right to tell me what I tell my daughter and what I don’t tell her. It’s none of your concern. Even when she puts on her Winston jersey on game day.
April 28th, 2015 at 9:38 pm
87, what jersey # do you think Marcus will get if he’s with the Bucs?
April 29th, 2015 at 12:01 am
“what jersey # do you think Marcus will get if he’s with the Bucs?”
mediocre doesn’t get a number. maybe 00 for the j-e-t-s.
April 29th, 2015 at 6:23 am
Buc1987 says…. “You don’t need to or have any right to tell me what I tell my daughter and what I don’t tell her. It’s none of your concern. Even when she puts on her Winston jersey on game day”
Incorrect. I DO have that right to say that on here (and you have the right to ignore me)…..and you DO have that obligation to your daughter.
Daughter…”Daddy, is it all true what people say about Infamous?”
Dad….”Well some are true, and some are just haters, and just ignore that piece of trash Kinsman, but he can REALLY throw a football sweetie. Here’s your number 5!”
April 29th, 2015 at 8:21 am
@DrFeelgood
That is complete bullspit. Claim to be something you probably are not, make some statements under a new name, and then go back to your regular username.
Get a life, lol.
April 29th, 2015 at 8:52 am
“Mariota Joe Says:
April 29th, 2015 at 6:23 am
.and you DO have that obligation to your daughter.”
Just as parents have an obligation to their sons to explain that, sadly, females have been know to lie about sexual assault.
April 29th, 2015 at 10:30 am
Love and Warric Dunn says….. “Just as parents have an obligation to their sons to explain that, sadly, females have been know to lie about sexual assault.”
Oh that is RICH!! Tell that to your daughter too, ok? It’s only fair to pre-warn her to shut the hell up if it happens to her???? That is SICK.
And you should also tell your son that males have been known to lie about sexual assault too.
…and I sincerely, honestly hope that the Bucs can end this silliness tomorrow by moving on, and not causing this issue to persist.
April 29th, 2015 at 12:59 pm
Maybe u should tell ur kids to be with one person. Better yet show them what that means by loving the one ur with
April 29th, 2015 at 2:34 pm
I am a fsu fan. A lot of the fans combed through the police report and state attorneys findings. I truly believe Erica is confusing humiliation with violation. The roommate wanting in, the door not shutting, finshing up in a bathroom, being dumped on thsidewalk. My opinion was that she wanted some comfort after realize hat a bad mistake her night was. When her friends answered her pleas she must have realized the real story made her look worse than she wanted. So she lied. She stared she remembered nothing to her friends. Because she was drugged, drunk, or hit in the head. Lab results disprove that. in the fsu hearing she didn’t mention those three things but created a new theory that she was intimidated into the caB. The former supreme court justice disagreed that someone couldn’t call for help in a street full of people. Her friend Monica made a statement to the police that Erica asked her opinion on leaving with winston. she has a bunch of lawyers convincing that she is some sort of martyr representing rape victims but she’s actually making it worse. All who lie about rape do.
April 29th, 2015 at 4:23 pm
At least you prefaced it by intimating that you have a bias on this issue, being an FSU fan. So noted.