“This Stunt Was Expected”
April 17th, 2015
Jameis Winston’s attorney, David Cornwell, is firing back after his famous client was whacked with a civil suit yesterday.
The filing by Erica Kinsman comes from an alleged 2012. She claims Winston is damaged here via sexual battery, assault, false imprisonment and emotional distress.
“This stunt was expected,” Cornwell said in a prepared statement. “[The accuser’s] false accusations have already been exposed and rejected six times. This time will be no different. Mr. Winston welcomes the opportunity to clear his name with the truth.”
April 17th, 2015 at 9:30 am
If you want the flip side to the New York Times article, Google: The National Review- The Cinematic Railroading of Jameis Winston by Stuart Taylor Jr.
April 17th, 2015 at 9:30 am
BUCS….. do not draft this guy he will bring you down and a number 1 pick down the drain hes bad bad news
April 17th, 2015 at 9:33 am
@Joe
I know you don’t like links but if people are going to keep referencing the NYT article, I feel this artilce is critical to the conversation as a counter balance.
April 17th, 2015 at 9:35 am
Of course it was expected…the girl wants justice !!
April 17th, 2015 at 9:36 am
This girl is not smart. She should have waited until the day Winston signed his contact and that same day filed. If he falls she will lose money too.
April 17th, 2015 at 9:37 am
Zack, they are already down, that’s why they are picking first.
How is someone who has been cleared 6 times, soon to be 7, bad news? I don’t get it.
And throwing the pick down the drain? Not so fast. Winston can already play, and from what everyone in a football capacity says about him, has the ability to learn to be great at the NFL level, so taking a shot on him, no matter the pick is a worthy investment.
April 17th, 2015 at 9:38 am
@JJFN
She has had her opportunity for justice 3 separate times. This will be the 4th. Read the article.
April 17th, 2015 at 9:39 am
@Fungus,
Justice for what? Changing her stories at least 3 times? Justice for saying she had no idea who he was, yet taking pictures with him BEFORE the alleged rape? Does she want justice for no longer being able to be a member of the “cleat chasers” at FSU? What exactly does she want justice from? This girl is looking for her payday, plain and simple. Once she loses this case, she’ll be writing a tell all book.
April 17th, 2015 at 9:39 am
“Mr. Winston welcomes the opportunity to clear his name with the truth.”
Lol
April 17th, 2015 at 9:40 am
Cornwell’s a rock star.
April 17th, 2015 at 9:40 am
Rape = Stunt Spoken like a true Dirt bag lawyer. Everything Winton’s done at FSU has been covered up. All these claims against him, Not 1 he he guilty of? Not 1? haha. #RapeIsBadMMMMMkayyy
#DP #HGH #PEDs #BrainDeadRetard
April 17th, 2015 at 9:40 am
I dont care what happens off the field. He is the best QB to come out since Luck and will change this franchise for the better.
April 17th, 2015 at 9:42 am
And he needs to get better taste in women – better learn from Others dealing with these opportunists.
She’s not pretty at all and clearly she has and had motives!
April 17th, 2015 at 9:44 am
All these people who continue to assume Winston is guilty have never once read up on the case. They’ve yet to explain why she has changed her story so many times. Even they can’t deny that she was lying about never meeting him before. So she lied about never meeting him, but it is unreasonable to assume she could be lying about being raped??? Uh, ok. Because they don’t like him, they aren’t about to educate themselves, and they certainly don’t want to read anything that might change their mind. If you notice, the haters never dispute any of the facts. Instead, they do the easy, lazy thing- they call him a rapist.
April 17th, 2015 at 9:45 am
College coed (expendable) vs FSU/TPD/College National Championship Trophy/Heismen Trophy
Justice is Deaf Dumb and Blind
April 17th, 2015 at 9:45 am
@Atrain – Just a thought, but maybe she’s not too optimistic about winning the case given her luck so far in court and instead is hoping the timing will damage his draft position so he suffers some form of punishment in her eyes.
I don’t know if he did it or not but it’s troubling to me that she hasn’t let it go. There has to be some kind of motive for her outside of a payday, if a payday was the goal all along she has probably eaten up a good chunk of what she would receive in legal fees. Something just ain’t right about the whole thing.
April 17th, 2015 at 9:45 am
Barry… Explain how they’ve been “covered-up”? All has been well publicized?
April 17th, 2015 at 9:46 am
@Barry
By the very definition of the words, literally nothing Jameis has done at FSU has been covered up. Hence us wasting our morning talking about everything he has or hasn’t done.
I’m still waiting on my car.
April 17th, 2015 at 9:47 am
@Barry,
Learn what hash tags are used for, because you obviously have no clue. You make yourself look even more stupid, which is very hard to do.
April 17th, 2015 at 9:48 am
@JJFN
Yeah he was a nobody redshirt freshman when this happened but keep telling yourself this version. You’re this close to treading into the “Barry Zone”.
Read the article.
April 17th, 2015 at 9:49 am
@jfat,
Buddy, this is the way it ALWAYS works. If she wins, she will have Winston pay all of her legal fees. She is most likely expecting a settlement, so that this thing will just go away. For you to say this seems odd is just not correct, as this is exactly what we all knew was going to happen.
April 17th, 2015 at 9:50 am
best qb to come out since luck? I don’t know. Teddy has been the best since luck. JW is not a slam dunk. Hopefully sloppy footwork at times gets corrected. He forced and was inaccurate at times. This isn’t elway or luck. He will need time to develope for sure. Its going to be very hard for him because he will have a below average line, and that really sucks. His weapons are a bit limited bc vj and evans have a like skilll set and we don’t have great backs. I’d say trade for ap, but he is too old , expensive, and we can’t afford the picks. It will be winston, but it may not end well. Cosell said if mettenberger and teddy were on the board, jw and mm would be going late 1st early 2nd. Its always hard when you have a huge need and you look at the top 2 in the class… you might not realize the class isn’t very good
April 17th, 2015 at 9:50 am
bill cosby’s lawsuit where he is accused of slipping something into women’s drinks and having forced sex has turned into a class action lawsuit. I think 50+ women are involved. Winston’s suit will probably go class action. even if many of these women are nothing more than $$$ seekers it will be covered by the media and I don’t think the bucs would want that kind of negative publicity. I don’t think this guy is in the bucs future in spite of what they are saying to the media. I was watching espn sportscenter and Hannah storm was discussing this with an expert. he said Winston would have to agree to having what amounts to an adult babysitter if the bucs drafted him.
April 17th, 2015 at 9:54 am
@ hawaiian
i believe you’re the one who said you base your opinions one the photo of the blonde girl at the club with him, believing it was her.
she’s already denied that was her, and facial recognition i’m sure would back that up.
the bucs finally got the right guy for the pirating, pillaging logo
CNN, NFL….the bucs are front page boys. congrats!
#creepycrab
April 17th, 2015 at 9:55 am
SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 17th, 2015 at 9:57 am
@Miken
Did he actually say that about Mettenberger?! The dude went in the 6th round last year. Obviously, every team in the league was comfortable passing him at least 5 times and nothing about his play last year stood out.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:02 am
I’m not saying Winston is guilty, nor am I saying he’s innocent. What is sad is that we will never know more of the facts since the Tallahassee PD and FSU did a piss poor investigation, so the evidence was lost. This evidence could have proved Winston innocent, or guilty, but we will never know. But, I do believe where there is smoke, there is fire. It makes more sense that this was a cover up, then nothing happening at all. Winston has had several off field incidents, there is another woman that may also sue him, and, in the mean time, Winston has a girlfriend that i guess doesn’t mind him screwing around. I just rather the QB may their headlines on the field, not off it, therefore, i hope the Bucs pick Mariota, Winston is just bad news IMO.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:03 am
Hey Mr. “Winton isn’t ready for the NFL” Cornwell……if this is a “stunt” then the Florida Bar will take actions to dis-barr the attorney. Good luck with that.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:04 am
i’ve heard they did not test for date rape drugs, then others say they tested for 172 drugs
can anyone SPECIFICALLY point out where they tested for rape drugs.
because if anyone here has ever gone under for dental work with one of those pills, you’ll know….you don’t remember much.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:05 am
@robert9,
Nope, that wasn’t me. There have been multiple people that have come forward and said she did know him. They were in the same class together. Are you seriously to believe that they could be taking a class together, and she never got wind that the FSU QB was in the class? Come on buddy, you know better than that.
Look, as I’ve said, I have no problem with people wanting us to draft a different guy. I acknowledge his character is a bit troublesome, and I don’t blame anyone for wanting to go a different direction. However, I have a serious problem with people assuming guilt, when the evidence doesn’t support it.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:05 am
What if the Colts didn’t take Manning because he decided to sit butt-naked on a female trainers face?
April 17th, 2015 at 10:06 am
Architek….you are a despicalbe human being.
Architek Says:
April 17th, 2015 at 9:42 am
And he needs to get better taste in women – better learn from Others dealing with these opportunists.
She’s not pretty at all and clearly she has and had motives!
April 17th, 2015 at 10:07 am
@nick… he did! I was shocked too because he is one of the best imo in breaking down film and rating players . Scared me! He wasn’t nice to jw or mm, but was a little higher on mm. He did have teddy as the #1 qb in the draft.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:11 am
@Hawaiian – Suppose you’re right about the legal fees.
I can still think things seem odd, that’s my opinion. I still don’t see a real motive to drag this thing out the way it has been if she didn’t feel like she was harmed in some way. Reports are the suit is for roughly 15k in damages, which isn’t small change, but it’s hardly a “payday” that warrants 2-3 years of court appearances, having to change schools, hate mail and anything else she’s had to deal with. Things just don’t add up to me.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:11 am
@robert 9
From the State’s DA office:
An FDLE report dated
3/29/13, advised no drugs were identified in XX’s urine sample. The urine was tested for the
presence of the following drugs: amphetamines, antidepressant, antihistamines, barbiturates,
benzodiazepines, cannabinoids, carisoprodol, cocaine, GHB, methadone, opiates, oxycodone,
propoxyphene, and other drugs.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:12 am
“robert 9 Says:
April 17th, 2015 at 10:04 am
i’ve heard they did not test for date rape drugs, then others say they tested for 172 drugs
can anyone SPECIFICALLY point out where they tested for rape drugs.”
SPECIFICALLY page 15 of the full 248 page State Attorneys report. Tested at both the FDLE lab, and the UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA chem lab.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:13 am
OK, So I accuse Ms. Kinsman of Perjury and Prostitution. She is guilty until proven innocent now…right? Both parties are guilty of sexual immorality which is a religious issue and not a legal issue however Perjury is against our current laws though. Maybe on some level they have both lied on the stand? Who knows?
April 17th, 2015 at 10:14 am
@robert 9
Also..
Toxicology
On 11/15/13, XX’s toxicology kit was submitted to Dr. Bruce Goldberger of the University of
Florida Pathology Laboratories for a second evaluation. Dr. Golberger tested for other possible
drugs that may have been in XX’s system causing her to black out and have a spotty memory. All
tests were negative for 172 different drugs or drug metabolites. Dr. Goldberger determined the
blood alcohol content to be .04g/dL and the urine alcohol content to be .09 g/dL. The blood that
was sent to Dr. Golberger was resubmitted to FDLE to confirm the blood that was tested was that
of XX. DNA analysis confirmed the blood tested was that of XX.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:14 am
172 drugs and drug metabolites
April 17th, 2015 at 10:15 am
Tbswarm now that’s real talk… A yo celly what up bro,I know you out there somewhere lurking.I understand if this current topic is beneath your expertise and guile I just wanted to give a shout out is all.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:15 am
Can anyone specifically tell me how long Barry’s been on drugs?
April 17th, 2015 at 10:16 am
I love how guys like Nick are pretending to try this case on this site. If only it was that easy……
I’m not attempting to try this case….all I’m saying is that the Bucs do NOT need this BS, and the loss of fans, and the protesters (they have the right in America)……not to mention, I firmly believe MM will be a better QB. Don’t hate on me for my opinion.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:16 am
Tallahassee is a small city with a HUGE college influence. The star QB from the largest college is accused of rape and the people in charge have to decide what is more important to them. What do you think they did? I go to Tallahassee for business and I can tell you that the citizens of Tallahassee feel that this was a cover-up, so I believe them. If the second girl comes forward, that will be the end to this. The Bucs have a big decision to make, which will not only effects the team, but the Tampa community. I always feel it is better to be safe than sorry.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:18 am
@hawaiian
Considering the fact he was not the QB when it happened, I could see how she had no idea he was the QB. weird.
seriously, I new maybe 3-5 people from a class, if that, how is she supposed to know him just because he was in a class?
if not for the other things he has done that make me think he feels he is above reproach, i would not question this. but with the other numerous incidents it’s hard to take his word either
April 17th, 2015 at 10:18 am
Here’s what worries me so much about this….There is a huge difference between civil and criminal court…Especially when it comes to burden of proof. In criminal court the defendant must be proven guilty “beyond a reasonable doubt” but in civil court only a “preponderance of the evidence” is needed to assign guilt. Maybe Winston is innocent, but he still runs the risk being found guilty. If he is found guilty, what will the NFL do? Will he face a lengthy suspension? Will the Bucs be forced to admit they drafted the wrong guy? Will the team’s reputation suffer because of it? Will all of this be a huge distraction for Winston and the Bucs? When Erica Kinsman takes the stand, and it is carried on the nightly news on every network, will it overshadow everything the Bucs are trying to accomplish this year? And maybe the most important question (for Lovie Smith)…If I went 2-14 in my first season, and feel my seat heating up under me, do I REALLY want or need this kind of distraction following me around all season and hanging over my career? So many questions.
I will return to my original position and offer another option….draft Mariota and build around him…..or trade the pick for Philip Rivers and the Chargers first pick! He would give us a top 10 QB for the next 4-6 years and get us back into the division race immediately! Trade Martin and a #2 next year for AP. spend the rest of our draft picks this year on shoring up the offensive and defensive lines! We would be back in the playoff hunt like that!
April 17th, 2015 at 10:19 am
Robert9 there are some real beast on this site bro. Tredd lightly homes,you can’t win.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:19 am
LJS4th Says:
April 17th, 2015 at 10:16 am
“Tallahassee is a small city with a HUGE college influence. The star QB from the largest college is accused of rape and the people in charge have to decide what is more important to them.”
He was freshman at the time and not even the starting “star QB” that you portray him to be at the time of the BS allegation.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:21 am
“LJS4th Says:
April 17th, 2015 at 10:16 am
Tallahassee is a small city with a HUGE college influence. The star QB from the largest college is accused of rape and the people in charge have to decide what is more important to them. What do you think they did?”
You hear detractors say that Kinsman didn’t know him so she could not have been out for $.
The same goes on the other side. There was no named suspect for the first month or so. How could the police coverup when they didn’t even know who it was initially? What exactly was covered up?
http://chopchat.com/2014/12/24/heres-new-york-times-isnt-telling/
April 17th, 2015 at 10:21 am
You want me to believe that 30 or so people that did the investigating all covered up for some kid on the local football team that was not even a star yet.
They risked their jobs, reputation and jail time for Jameis Winston???
Stop it with this nonsense…
April 17th, 2015 at 10:22 am
Mariota joe did not hear the story of the season ticket holders responded when they showed an image of WINSton on a big screen? It was described as a roar of approval. Don’t hold your breath on any picketing man.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:25 am
“Jeagan1999 Says:
April 17th, 2015 at 10:18 am
Here’s what worries me so much about this….There is a huge difference between civil and criminal court…Especially when it comes to burden of proof.”
Here’s the thing. At the COC hearing, it was the same threshold (50%), but, she had no fear of deposition and cross examination by a defense atty. And she lost that.
Now, she can be questioned by a defense atty and have them enter evidence against her. COC hearing was her absolute best chance and she lost.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:26 am
Future protesters….
http://cbssports.com/images/blogs/bucs_jameis_getty.jpg
April 17th, 2015 at 10:26 am
@Mariota Joe
I’m not trying this case, it’s already been “tried”. I’m just reporting what has already occurred that many of you refuse to believe. Stop coming in here with your little anecdotes. Either enhance the conversation with facts and evidence or move along. The State of Florida has ruled, barring further evidence, that Jameis Winston has not committed a criminal act. We don’t need the you and the Barry’s of the world telling us what you “think”.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:27 am
To all the haters out there shouting “rape” in a crowded theater:
Let’s start a new chant —
“HANDS UP!! DON’T LIE!!!”
Kinda gets you right in the perjury joint . . .
April 17th, 2015 at 10:33 am
Bucs1987 are you grasping at a word? STAR ok a freshman QB from the LARGEST college in Tallahassee, who has great potential is accused of raping a girl….happy. As far as police or lawyers not lying…if you think that is true you live in a fantasy world. They don’t worry about their jobs, because they will cover up for each other. Wow, you really don’t know how a cover up works, but keep grabbing on to a word that makes you feel better.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:35 am
LJS4th….once again if the cover up gets blown up. MANY people lose their jobs and go to jail….that’s a fact that escapes you.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:39 am
“LJS4th Says:
April 17th, 2015 at 10:33 am
Bucs1987 are you grasping at a word? STAR ok a freshman QB from the LARGEST college in Tallahassee, who has great potential is accused of raping a girl….happy.”
They said the botching was in the initial investigation, correct? What was botched? and if they didn’t even know it was Winston until a month later, how are they covering up for an unknown suspect?
So, the police are supposed to know an unknown suspect was a redshirt freshman who wasn’t even expected to play for several years (at that point he was behind Tricket AND Jacob Coker)?
April 17th, 2015 at 10:39 am
lawyers and police not lying……
I needed a laugh. hell, it’s a lawyers job to lie in many cases.
nothing against them it’s a simple fact. they get paid to skew the law in your favor. simple as that.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:39 am
LJS4th…if YOU yourself was part of the cover up. Would you risk your job and freedom for this kid if you knew he did it and had evidence that he did it?
I wouldn’t, perhaps you would. I wouldn’t do it. So I don’t think SVU investigators, some of them women, would cover it up. You do and that’s your opinion.
Lawyers are lawyers. Crooked by nature.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:40 am
HAHAHA Bucs1987 believe what you want. This is small town USA, no one goes to jail or will lose their job.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:42 am
Additionally, just the year before a STARTING WR (Gregt Dent) who was far more important to the team was accused of rape. He was immediately arrested, suspended, and never returned to the team, even after being cleared of the charge.
But, I guess they pick and choose who they protect….
April 17th, 2015 at 10:42 am
Robert…pay attention. Did I say anything about lawyers?
Show me where I said lawyers were involved in a cover up….
Capital D for dumb.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:43 am
“This girl is not smart. She should have waited until the day Winston signed his contact and that same day filed. If he falls she will lose money too.”
Right, because that wouldn’t reinforce the attack line about her being a gold digger, or worse.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:46 am
@ 87
I was responding to ls4
April 17th, 2015 at 10:46 am
LJS4th…if YOU yourself was part of the cover up. Would you risk your job and freedom for this kid if you knew he did it and had evidence that he did it?
April 17th, 2015 at 10:48 am
Joe get off his jock! this guy is terrible and he will not be a good pro. if they do draft this low life and he turns out to be terrible at the pro level, like many believe he will be. god forbid I make a Jamarcus Russell comparison, even tho many in the media have in fact mentioned such.You should just close up shop as much as you have been lobbing for this guy. I swear i do not know what is worse political lobbying,or this damn Winston rhetoric you have been shoving down are throats everyday. I really hope they do not draft this dirt bag. The only good that would come out if it is lovie would get to sit on his couch again another to figure out how to be even a worse coach. I can see Pop Warner coaching in his future.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:51 am
buccobruce Says:
April 17th, 2015 at 10:48 am
J”oe get off his jock! this guy is terrible and he will not be a good pro. if they do draft this low life and he turns out to be terrible at the pro level, like many believe he will be. god forbid I make a Jamarcus Russell comparison, even tho many in the media have in fact mentioned such.”
Utter BS lies. Show me ANYONE …I mean ANYONE in media that have called him the next Jamarcus Russell.
You won’t find it, because it not there…perhaps it’s in your head though, next to the pile of other rocks.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:52 am
Again, this does not prove her a liar. Like I said believing you were drugged even if you were not does not make you a liar. Guessing his height wrong is not a lie. Having a cloudy memory of things does not make one a liar. Are there inconsistencies? Absolutely, but this is not unusual for a woman who has been drinking. This is even more common for victims of rape. To be fair, there is not enough evidence to support her claims either, but if you want everyone to give Jameis the benefit of the doubt you must do the same for Erica. The fact that anyone would list her description of his height as a lie proves only that they are only looking for things they can call lies and not reasonably looking at the evidence.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:53 am
Ask Xavier Lee, Greg Reid and Marcus Ball how FSU covers everything up for their star players.
This cleat chasing money grabber refused to talk to the cops for 11 months until all of a sudden, weeks before the heisman, she decides to come forward. She really does have impeccable timing, I’ll giver her that
April 17th, 2015 at 10:55 am
@Creamsicle
And most importantly, Greg Dent.
And she started back up TO THE DAY after Oregon lost, Mariota was hurt and Winston became the Heisman favorite. If that never happens, we never hear about any of this.
April 17th, 2015 at 10:57 am
buccobruce..since you’re clearly lying about the Jamarcus thing.
Hell show me, many in the media that think he will be terrible….
Again more rocks piled together in your head…
April 17th, 2015 at 11:01 am
Drive by shooters is all that they are these days…
They come on the site and spray it with bullets, then run away….
April 17th, 2015 at 11:03 am
Whether you think it was a cover up or not, you must accept the fact that it was a poor investigation at best. TPD made no attempt to discover the identity of the accused. Her report came immediately after the event. At that point they had the opportunity to get evidence that was never collected because they waiting too long. Had they investigated properly they could have actually helped Jameis if he was falsely accused.
April 17th, 2015 at 11:03 am
Love and Warrick Dunn….your points are well taken, but it still scares me. Was the COC hearing open to the media? Did any of her testimony make it to the evening news? Was it held in civil court before a jury? Juries do strange things sometimes. I’ve heard people say there is only circumstantial evidence on her side…but people are convicted in criminal court on circumstantial evidence all the time. Aaron Hernandez was just convicted of murder on circumstantial evidence!
Obviously this girl is willing to put herself on the stand and testify that she was assaulted….if she wasn’t, she would not still be pursuing this action (I’m not saying that I believe her). It will be all over the news! It will be all over ESPN! It will be a distraction on some level! What if this “2nd accuser” comes forward? Will that not be a distraction too? Does Lovie Smith want or need something like this as he tries to rebuild a 2-14 team and keep his own ass out of the fire!
Why is this girl still doing this is the big question, isn’t it? If she is lying, she may be committing perjury and setting herself up for her own legal problems….so knowing that, why is she doing this? That’s why this scares me, and that’s why I would go in a different direction if I’m Jason Licht….too many questions!
April 17th, 2015 at 11:06 am
Love and WD,
Would this not allow for a cross examination of Winston also? Could that be the opportunity her lawyers want?
April 17th, 2015 at 11:08 am
The Feds have been involved with this supposed “cover up” since April 2014.
FBI, DOJ and such. I know the federal government is slow, but I think something would have come out by now…
April 17th, 2015 at 11:11 am
I just read the article that Nick spoke of. If your one of these TROLLS that go after Jameis and assuming that you can actually read without pictures being in it. Then read the article, if your still accusing him of this rape, then title yourself elephant brain! Stuart Taylor Jr is actually a Harvard Law graduate, so he is QUALIFIED to speak on this case because he UNDERSTANDS LAW (unlike you Jameis Trolls). Facts are only hard to swallow if your a Gator Fan or maybe from the U (since he pistol whipped your team in under two minutes, when you thought you had it won).
Nick Says:
April 17th, 2015 at 9:30 am
If you want the flip side to the New York Times article, Google: The National Review- The Cinematic Railroading of Jameis Winston by Stuart Taylor Jr.
April 17th, 2015 at 11:14 am
“charactermatters Says:
April 17th, 2015 at 11:06 am
Love and WD,
Would this not allow for a cross examination of Winston also? Could that be the opportunity her lawyers want?”
His account, his witnesses accounts, and most importantly, HER OWN witnesses (Monique Kessler, Erica Weisberg, etc) accounts which conflict with her versions have NEVER changed.
She is the only one in the entire case who has repeatedly changed her story. I hope they proceed. It will get ugly. Fast. For her.
April 17th, 2015 at 11:15 am
The main point that’s missing from this whole argument is that the Bucs have already stated they are comfortable with taking Winston, even though they knew this was coming down the pike…they already said this!
So since they’ve already said it. Perhaps some reporter will ask them the question again, now that the suit is out there….
April 17th, 2015 at 11:18 am
@Jeagan
Look around this place. NY Times, USA Today. He can’t face anything worse than what he has faced. And this is the first time he gets actual defense attorney to defend him in court.
The entire COC transcript is public record and I have read it. She denies claiming to be drugged at the hearing. Then, in the documentary, she turns around claims to be drugged again (LOL). This will all be submittable in court.
April 17th, 2015 at 11:20 am
@Horice:
Now, now.
You WAY overestimate Harvard Law and its graduates.
Georgetown ’76
April 17th, 2015 at 11:22 am
Jimminy Christmas we’ve already gone over all this stuff 3 months ago on this site….
TBBF…it might be a never ending battle for me…you might be right.
April 17th, 2015 at 11:23 am
well we got to look this as a very bad distraction to the team it will never go away and some places will boo our team as they call winstons name so if you can go two more years as the suck-a-neers and hes gone then go for it but you will lose alot of fans
April 17th, 2015 at 11:30 am
Lou as a person who owns 3 successful law firms in the Bay Area, I KNOW LAW!
April 17th, 2015 at 11:36 am
Jameis Winston. Beating them in the courts and on the field.
Welcome To Tampa, Jameis!
April 17th, 2015 at 11:37 am
“Jeagan1999 Says:
April 17th, 2015 at 11:03 am
Obviously this girl is willing to put herself on the stand and testify that she was assaulted….if she wasn’t, she would not still be pursuing this action”
Not necessarily. Her attorneys could be hoping the bad PR forces him to make a settlement during pretrial. If they don’t, they have the option to drop the case. This is a Hail Mary. I highly doubt the case will get to the point where she could be deposed by a Winston defense atty (he could hire some of best money can buy).
April 17th, 2015 at 11:42 am
Amazing how much back and forth with this guy.
Can you imagine the Drama this guy will bring to the Bucs.
If you are a true fan of the Bucs and not just a Blind Winstonite you have to see that as a problem. Throwing a ball is only part of the QB job. There is a whole lot more to a Great NFL QB
But some of you are not worried about any of that. Sad!
April 17th, 2015 at 12:28 pm
zack49 Says:
April 17th, 2015 at 11:23 am
“well we got to look this as a very bad distraction to the team it will never go away and some places will boo our team as they call winstons name so if you can go two more years as the suck-a-neers and hes gone then go for it but you will lose alot of fans”
Once again….the Bucs have known about this suit for months. Apparently some of you are too slow to the plate…
April 17th, 2015 at 12:39 pm
87. I mean Winston
We know who you are because no one would defend a guy this vigorously unless it was the person themselves.
You have not seen one NFL pass from this guy so u have no way to know how good he will be period.
No one in the Media talked bad about Johnny Football or let’s see Ryan Leaf…Rehabers in fact I believe the Colts were called stupid for taking Manning. Haha…
You base your love on a college football player who won many games against sub par teams. Only played against a few ranked teams and almost lost against some very sorry teams.
He has questions on his throwing, feet and too many INT..Then we get into the off field stuff.
Really Winston you should have picked a better name ( #1 Winston). Would be more like you
April 17th, 2015 at 12:51 pm
Hilarious!
Alstott has more brains than you.
April 17th, 2015 at 12:55 pm
Will someone please help this fool out…
I’ve been coming to this site since May of 2013 and many regulars know me.
They know me well in fact, because I never shut up.
I’ve been a Bucs fan since 1987. Ray Perkins and Vinny.
I’ve waited 28 years for a franchise QB. 13 more days to go.
April 17th, 2015 at 12:56 pm
“ATrain Says:
April 17th, 2015 at 12:39 pm
You base your love on a college football player who won many games against sub par teams. Only played against a few ranked teams and almost lost against some very sorry teams”
Beat the SEC Champion Auburn Tigers for a Championship.
April 17th, 2015 at 12:59 pm
My cousin was the starting LS for the SB Champion Bucs. Ryan Benjamin out of USF. I got to wear the SB ring. One of the greatest moments in my life, along with watching the Bucs win the Super Bowl and the birth of my children.
I’m Bucs 365 days a year 7 days a week. Nonstop.
April 17th, 2015 at 1:08 pm
Here I am in 2013 holding up my THIS SUCKS sign.
http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/blogs/Buccaneers-Fans.400.jpg
If you were at the game. You couldn’t miss me. I was everywhere with that sign.
April 17th, 2015 at 1:47 pm
he’s only been cleared like 6 times….even when it happens the 7th times and she is awarded no compensation he’ll still be looked at as a rapist so what does it really matter if he’s innocent. I atleast would hope the haters weren’t surprised this is happening…. just have to wonder why he was the one around all the buc greats and not mariota unless they know something we don’t. NFL is a fraternity so yea of course they know everything we don’t. im sure even tim tebow knows this guy is innocent lol
April 17th, 2015 at 2:08 pm
Nick, I can state my opinions….and you can choose to read them or not….and you can state yours….but what you cannot do is change my opinion. The Bucs have the unfortunate situation of having the number one pick, and a bad apple is the best prospect. And please don’t even try to tell me what a great guy he is….that’s already been decided by the Court of Public Opinion….otherwise, there’d be no debate here. Draft Jameis? At what cost? No thanks. Even JoeBucsFan has recently referenced “red flags” which is a huge admission from the ringleader of the Infamous Jameis Fan Club.
April 17th, 2015 at 2:20 pm
The Bucs have the unfortunate situation of having the number one pick, and a bad apple is the best prospect.
damn bucs fans lol……having the number 1 pick in the draft is suddenly unfortunate lol I dont even have an insult for that comment, you called Winston a bad apple but you also said he’s the best prospect. we’ll just keep pretending as if this is the first time the best prospect in the draft has questionable character. lets just keep drafting good people instead of good players yes because that’s the best way to build a championship team.
you know what they are saying about the patriots and aaron hernandez? nothing because all the talk is about their championships and how elite a franchise they are
April 17th, 2015 at 2:38 pm
Well, it’s not like Winston’s vast legal team left this young girl a lot of choices. They worked with the Tampa Police Department to make sure all the evidence was ferreted out, and then “disappeared”…so no criminal charges could be filed…’cuz the Potbelly’s surveillance video and Chris Cashers cell phone video of part of the rape…er, “date”…
Who’s to say the second semen stain on her underwear isn’t from Chris Casher? We’ll never know that either, as the evidence has all been disappeared…
When I consider that the NFL commissioner was able to suspend Ben Rothelisberger with LESS evidence than the Tallahassee Police Department was able to collect…I realize just how accurate those comparisons to “Big Ben” really are…
Go Bucs!
April 17th, 2015 at 2:41 pm
yep only from what I’ve read she was neither intoxicated or drugged which is probably why she’s failed to provide evidence 6 times
April 17th, 2015 at 3:14 pm
would be wise to wait until the suit is over. pre gudgement either way is counter productive.
April 17th, 2015 at 3:42 pm
White Tiger Says:
April 17th, 2015 at 2:38 pm
Who’s to say the second semen stain on her underwear isn’t from Chris Casher? ”
Hey genius, the second set of DNA was successfully matched to her boyfriend, Jamal Roberts. Also a black HS QB who now plays for Kent State. Erica refused to identify him to police and SAO investigators, and he refused to cooperate in his own girlfriends rape investigation.
April 17th, 2015 at 3:43 pm
@Mariota Joe
Have all the opinions you want but don’t mistake your opinions as being on par with facts. People were confused as to what was tested and what wasn’t. I posted documentation of everything that was tested.
April 17th, 2015 at 5:13 pm
I would like to know from the Jameis-Hatred crowd how many times does someone have to be exonerated before an allegation is dismissed as a hoax/lie/fabrication?
5?
10?
50?
Please let me know so I won’t bore you with facts until that point in time.
April 17th, 2015 at 7:09 pm
87 is selling the I’m not Winston thing hard..
Welcome Winston as a Bucs fan I hope you do well.
I have my doubts.
Winston is such a man he only drinks Dos Equis.
April 17th, 2015 at 9:00 pm
At this point we shouldn’t refer to this situation as “the rape allegation against Winston”. Henceforth I am referring to this entire mess as “Winston’s Stalker”. How can you hold it against JW the he is being harassed for something he DIDN’T DO more than 2 years ago?