The Leadership Fit
April 2nd, 2015
It should be clear to everyone who has studied Jameis Winston this week, and through the past couple of years, that the guy is a leader.
He can’t help it.
Winston is a people person. He was seen rallying teammates regularly on the Florida State sidelines when he was a redshirt freshman waiting to play.
Perhaps that makes him an ideal fit on the Buccaneers? One ex-Buc thinks the team is “devoid of leadership,” especially on offense.
To a man, Buccaneers players on both sides of the ball would claim Josh McCown was a major leader of the team last year. Even Lavonte David tipped his cap in McCown’s direction.
McCown, thankfully, is gone. That leaves a void, assuming McCown knew what the hell he was doing when it came to leading a football team. (Don’t ask Joe to bet on that) Also, the hiring of McCown in the first place represented Lovie Smith seeking a vocal leader to take over his offense.
Enter Winston. The table seems set for him to not only be drafted by the Bucs, but to take over their offense in all aspects. It’s not like anyone on the roster will put more study time in to the offense than Winston or Mike Glennon.
Winston simply is not a guy you’re going to tell to chill out for a year, or half a year, or a month while you have Glennon take the majority of reps. Joe just can’t see Lovie Smith playing it cautiously with Winston, unless Winston proves that he’s not ready in the spring.
April 2nd, 2015 at 4:05 pm
Of course they are…McCown wasn’t a leader. Glennon wasn’t the QB long enough to be the leader. Anybody that comes in on offense should be the leader. I’m hoping Evans takes on a captain role as well. Jackson is a good leader on offense as well. The QB position has been lacking though. Mariota or Winston should make it better.
April 2nd, 2015 at 4:05 pm
They better have fire hoses on the training camp field, because Winston’s going to light that place up!
Someone is going to have to pick Glennon’s jaw up from the ground once Winston’s starts firing passes all over the field. Providing he survives a trade.
April 2nd, 2015 at 4:12 pm
We could become a pretty dangerous team. It’s about damn time.
April 2nd, 2015 at 4:23 pm
If ASJ can stay healthy, and play to potential, combined with a passer who is a legit threat to get it to anyone on the field, this could be a scary offense.
Granted, I’m not taking the offense line into account. That must be fixed.
April 2nd, 2015 at 4:25 pm
lol. leaders lead by example.
soon we’ll have 1/2 the team locked up if they follow his examples.
April 2nd, 2015 at 4:26 pm
I think the “leadership” qualities that Winston so obviously possesses is the #1 reason the Bucs are all-in on him coming to Tampa Bay.
They love what they see on tape of course – but you just can’t teach the natural leadership and “IT” factor that Winston brings to the table.
April 2nd, 2015 at 4:27 pm
if ASJ stays healthy, if winston stays out of trouble, if we fix the OL….
hell of a lot of if’s.
trade back, build the trenches and start the cannon
April 2nd, 2015 at 4:31 pm
Winner is going to bring some fun and enthusiasm which is must needed. He has that refuse to lose attitude which is going to be hard for some TB fans to understand. My advise to them is to imagine Sapp on the field, it’s the only way for them to avoid throwing a hissy fit when winner doesn’t act the way they expect him to. #Sapp #primetime #keyshawn
April 2nd, 2015 at 4:35 pm
“robert 9 Says:
April 2nd, 2015 at 4:27 pm
if ASJ stays healthy, if winston stays out of trouble, if we fix the OL….
hell of a lot of if’s.
trade back, build the trenches and start the cannon”
Feel free to come up with a new outlook on May 1st. When Winston is drafted, you will be forced to accept it or head over to Phredphinsphan dot com.
April 2nd, 2015 at 4:38 pm
“They better have fire hoses on the training camp field, because Winston’s going to light that place up!”
See what playing with BBguns does? It is a gateway to Pyromania!
April 2nd, 2015 at 5:24 pm
I loved what he did for his teammates at FSU Pro Day; introducing them and staying the field so they were noticed too. Winston will be a leader on offense.
April 2nd, 2015 at 5:31 pm
Josh McCown must be a great leader even though he sucks at QB. It’s amazing anybody could back this guy after his performance on the field. Yet by and large the team stuck by him. That’s not generally true. Most leaders have to lead by example.
As charismatic as Fameis might be, coming in as an incredibly cocky rookie puts more pressure on him to perform.
If Fameis performs he will clearly be the team leader. He will replace GMC and EVERYBODY else. If he stuggles and throws costly interceptions he will get more grief than poor 87 will be able to stomach.
Fameis will be a GREAT leader as long as he follows Al Davis famous instructions.
JUST WIN BABY!
April 2nd, 2015 at 6:32 pm
4 of the last 5 articles are about Winston?
April 2nd, 2015 at 6:39 pm
Lol you can get credit for crab legs and bb guns off the field but none of the on field accomplishments, true sign off hating. Only reason mariota is being mentioned as a top pick is because of off field issues in Winston past. Yes he the a bunch of int’s this year but Matt Ryan is the one with most interceptions drafted so high. Really strange no one tasks about the 25 fumbles in mariota career, fumbles give away better field position coming from a quarterback. He is a leader undisputable
April 2nd, 2015 at 6:50 pm
Did someone say interceptions?
April 2nd, 2015 at 6:52 pm
Winston will be the best QB the Bucs have had since Doug Williams.
His enthusiasm for this game just exudes from his pores.
The team will love this guy.
I’ll never forget the time the Bucs were playing the Bears in the early 80’s and Williams threw a bomb to Jimmie Giles. Well Doug Plank lit Giles up.
I mean annihilated him. Knocked him the f@(& out.
Williams sprinted 60 yards down the field and started a fight with Plank.
He got a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty and the crowd cheered their asses off. I see that same fire in Winston.
I can’t wait to see him in a Buccaneers uniform.
April 2nd, 2015 at 7:00 pm
Josh freeman signs with the Dolphins. 1 yr deal.
April 2nd, 2015 at 7:03 pm
@buc4lyfe
Only reason mariota is being mentioned as a top pick is because of off field issues in Winston past.
That’s simply not true. There are some people who believe MM is more of the prototype of a future NFL QB. The league has been changing dramatically and the rules dictate that it’s going to continue to change and pure pocket passers are going to be fading. Manning and Brady may be the last of a dying breed.
This from ESPN.go
The hard reality about the NFL, just as in life, is that change is inevitable. Everybody is always looking for an edge, a way to push the game forward, and that is one reason the sport never gets old. On the other hand, innovation always leads to displacement. The league progresses and somebody suffers as a result. That’s especially true today.
At no time in recent memory have we seen the league change as much as it has over the past decade. The spread offense arrived. The Wildcat, the pistol and the read-option came along as well. Vicious hits became taboo, and designing runs for the quarterback — something that was considered lunacy by some traditionalists not too long ago — has become a sensation. Scoring is up. Defense is harder to play And everybody is suddenly wondering what the game will look like in 15 or 20 years.
And so there are those who believe MM looks more like the future. He clearly is a far better athlete than Fameis.
Having said that I’m on board with picking Fameis. I also believe this change in the game was one reason he threw so much out of the pocket.
It’s fine to believe Fameis is the man, but that doesn’t mean MM is not and people who prefer him just have a different opinion than you.
April 2nd, 2015 at 7:04 pm
So, sometimes I wonder if my fellow bucfans truly understand how close our team is to irrelevance. Dude I’m in New York and can’t buy any bucs merchandise in person. Cuz honestly we suck. No coating of sugar can change that
I know some of you hate young Jamies but why? Cuz he won a national championship, was it the heisman? Or is it that he is already more nationally recognizable than any other player on our team. We got blown out by 40 on a Thursday night game.
This can be a franchise changer and maybe I can go to modells(gotta go to mo’s) on 125th and buy a hat with my team. Or open up a New York times and see a nice two page think piece on us and how we are a franchise on the rise
These are my dreams, lol… Now buds fan unite and let us dance to the smoky booming of the cannon
Lead us Jameis!!!!
April 2nd, 2015 at 7:07 pm
a reason Fameis threw so much outside the pocket on his pro day.
He wants to show he can play the new game and I think he grew tired of hearing about how great Mariota was doing that.
Fameis will never be the runner that MM is but he showed he’s a clever shifty runner in college despite that pathetic 40 time and I give him the edge in passing. So bring on Fameis but you don’t really have to diss Marcus or his supporters.
April 2nd, 2015 at 7:09 pm
Yep.. With all the money Winston will have, he can lead the team to all the strip clubs in Tampa
April 2nd, 2015 at 7:10 pm
The bucs ticket office called me today. I told them to call back after the draft.
Dude asked what I wanted the bucs to accomplish in the draft. I said “draft Jameis”
He laughed and said he hears that all day long.
April 2nd, 2015 at 7:11 pm
@Harlem Buc
Tampa Bay is never going to get noticed in NYC short of multiple SB’s. Recognition comes from the size of market as much as anything.. And so a Chicago Philly game will always draw more network attention than a Bucs Panthers game.
It’s ok though. You live in an incredibly exciting city..I LOVE visiting NYC.
But I’m cool living in Tampa Bay and not getting all the national pub….just another day in paradise.
April 2nd, 2015 at 7:11 pm
Ben….I’m sure they’ve all already been to them many times.
Perhaps even Mariota went there while he was in Tampa too.
Oh the horror!
April 2nd, 2015 at 7:14 pm
StPete,
You know I am a fan of yours.
You’re usually very level headed and forward thinking.
But, there are a few Mariota supporters that do not share your same view.
Barry, Robet 9, SuperSam, to name a few.
They are very disrespectful and nasty.
So occasionally I may have actually dissed them myself.
April 2nd, 2015 at 7:14 pm
Im sold….draft him. I like to see them battle it out in camp. Id like see Lovie announce a qb competition yo generate a little media attention for once. But I dont want Mariota I want Winston…..im sold
April 2nd, 2015 at 7:16 pm
StPeteBucsFan…is it okay to diss Brett Hundley supporters or how about Bryce Petty? Is that cool? Or are they out of bounds too?
How about Russell Wilson supporters, can we diss them?
Seeing how Mariota is NOT going to be the pick, why can’t we diss Mariota?
I see no problem in dissing the future QB of the NY Jets…. 🙂
April 2nd, 2015 at 7:28 pm
@StPete
But I want the multiple championships! I only win arguments with jets fans because the jets, lol. But I’d really like to stick it to a giants fan or several. Give me 3 high profile playoff appearances in the next five years and I will personally go to a giants game in a jameis jersey not matter who they play. Cuz then I’d be able to find one up here lol
April 2nd, 2015 at 7:35 pm
Guys guys, Im all on the Winston wagon too but pointing to Mariota’s Fumbles to make Winston look better just makes you look dumb. Mariota has lost 11 fumbles in 3 yrs and thrown 14 ints in three yrs. He has Thrown 105 TDs and Rushed for 29.
For those of you not into math that is 134 Total TDs to 25 Total TOs.
Winston threw 28 INTs with 4 fumbles in only Two yrs against 68 Passing Tds and 7 Rushing Tds
Like I have said many times. This Gator fan is ready for JW if he becomes a Buc but some of his supporters should act a bit smarter.
April 2nd, 2015 at 7:38 pm
Hey 87, Youre my boy and all but why in the world would you want to ‘dis’ Mariota?
What has he ever done to you?
Or are you just falling into the ‘hater’ category because JW has so many?
April 2nd, 2015 at 7:52 pm
UF Alum..I rarely diss him. I just see no problem with dissing a guy that’s not on my team…where’s the problem in it?
I’m basically defending other peoples right to diss him if they so choose to.
The only thing I’ve ever dissed MM about is that I think he will be the buts out of the 2 QB’s. If you can call that dissing at all. It’s just a belief.
You really can’t find me dissing him all that much on here at all GatorBuc. Skim through the archives. It’s not there.
April 2nd, 2015 at 8:00 pm
https://youtu.be/-ixRB74ADMI lovie says the 2 most important traits for the qb position is accuracy n decision making. Both players are leaders of their respected teams. (Winston n mariota) But my take is that he leaning towards mariota with the whole accuracy n decision making.
April 2nd, 2015 at 8:05 pm
87………….You should know by now Im just messin with ya. I got no probs with you dude and you know this.
April 2nd, 2015 at 8:06 pm
How soon we forget. MM was being rated the number one quarterback by many all the way up until the combine. It was at that point that opinions started to shift. What changed? Did JW grossly outperform MM? I don’t think so. People began to fall in love with the charisma of JW. His leap has had as much to do with personality as anything else. Fans started to hear the term pro-ready thrown around and, wanting instant gratification, began clamoring for JW. This term has been used many times before when describing other prospects. This label did not turn them into instant successes.
April 2nd, 2015 at 8:09 pm
@Delson
Don’t forget he also said that mobility was important.
April 2nd, 2015 at 8:12 pm
@charactermatters that’s true.
April 2nd, 2015 at 8:19 pm
@DavePear
Thanks I enjoy your posts as well. And I certainly accept your point. But I’m not sure Barry or Robert are Mariota fans as much as Winston haters.
Don’t know about Supersam
I’m thinking more of TBBF and Bonzai who like Mariota but have come over to the Winston camp. They make solid points in favor of Mariota but are now like me in the Fameis camp.
@HarlemBuc WOW! Do us a favor. If we have the success with Fameis that you and all of us Bucs fans hope for and you wear a Fameis jersey make sure you take someone along with a good cellphone to video. You are braver than me!!! LOL. You’ll have to post that video on youtube so we and the rest of the country can see what a REAL Bucs fans looks like.
BTW dont’ know how often to visit JBF but Celly has already christened our stadium Fameis James Stadium.
April 2nd, 2015 at 8:20 pm
@characterobviouslydoes’ntmatter,
Another blatant lie. In whay universe was MM rated the number one QB before the combine. Just like the Burger King manager called 911.
If you speak, it must be true.
I call BS on everything you say.
Go root for the Dolphins.
They have your choirboy Freeman now.
Quit with the lies.
April 2nd, 2015 at 8:23 pm
I can see a difference in their styles of play. Mariota passes the ball to get it to his playmaker that has space to make a couple guys miss. I’d love to see robert herron catch a screen with vjax n evans as lead blockers or even on a quick slant. Sims as another viable receiving option. Mariota plus our rbs would be able to move the chains n keep the defense honest. Idk to me that’s a strategic decision that would be easy to make. If ur an fsu fanboy feel free to hate me n every post I make that is pro mariota. Joe is ur drummer boy n the media on this site is ridiculously biased.
April 2nd, 2015 at 8:25 pm
J ump for joy
A t last a franchise QB
M ore fans in the stands
E lectric personality
I can’t wait
S ee you at the draft party!
April 2nd, 2015 at 8:26 pm
Dave pear the 2014 heisman trophy
April 2nd, 2015 at 8:30 pm
delson…you can be pro Mariota all you want for the next 28 days…then you can either forget him or follow him to NY.
You can keep telling us about all the great things he does if it makes you feel better. I just think your words would be better received at say Jets Nation.
Feel free to keep telling us how great he is though…none of it matters anyway at this point..
April 2nd, 2015 at 8:30 pm
That trophy still did not have him rated the number one QB leading up to the combine. Sorry about that.
Oh yeah, Jameis has one of those too.
April 2nd, 2015 at 8:36 pm
What r u gonna do when jameis goes to the titans because we draft mariota? I haven’t seen the whole words with a guys first name since girls did it in highschool. N they were usually freshman tryin to sniff the jock of a senior lmao!
April 2nd, 2015 at 8:39 pm
I think it’s way past your bed time.
Now get your sippy cup and go nite-nite.
April 2nd, 2015 at 8:46 pm
If jameis was so solid as a qb there would be no discussion with lovie or licht as to who they would rather have. Just like there was no discussion as to who the colts were taking several years ago. As far as qb ratings are concerned mariota is number 2 with a HUGE advantage on his decision making with both on the field and off the field decisions as compared to winston. So that alone makes him a discussion to be the top pick.
April 2nd, 2015 at 8:50 pm
Are you in on the discussions of Lovie and Licht?
Didn’t think so.
April 2nd, 2015 at 9:01 pm
delson…some people are sloooooow and others are even sloooooooower.
Which on are you?
I’ve known Winston was the pick for the last 2 months. Not thought he was the pick. KNOWN he’s pick. So I bet a free jersey on it…
Are you a gambling man?
Wanna bet an Evans jersey for my wife vs a Mariota jersey for you if he’s the pick. I say it’s Winston, you say it’s Mariota. If I’m right you owe me an Evans jersey, If I’m wrong, Ill get you Mariota one.
Sound good?
April 2nd, 2015 at 9:03 pm
Nitey nite dave. U can go to bed now.
April 2nd, 2015 at 9:06 pm
Nah ur broke ass should buy ur wife a jersey lol don’t be tellin me she is a size xl in men’s either.
April 2nd, 2015 at 9:08 pm
Delson,
Dumb and rude.
April 2nd, 2015 at 9:08 pm
@charactermatters
Not in my case. Almost two years ago I came out highly in favor of Mariota. How could one not be in such favor of him. However, as time progressed I slowly questioned how he may or may not translate to the NFL. I sure enjoyed watching him outrun those linebackers so beautifuly. An enjoyable running style to watch. Friends would call me and tell me throughout the year “I just saw your guy play…wow! According to my friends I was totally linked to Mariota….and I was…..but my feeling now is that his learning curve would be pretty significant. Then I noted his personality with others….too quiet to rally the forces? Winston is right out there…getting the adrenalin pumping in his teammates. I think at this point in time Mariota may not feel as comfortable as Winston would be…it really is obvious. My friend I dont think you want to be objective of the matter. I believe you to be a totally all in Mariota supporter…no matter what. There is nothing wrong with your choice… but you can stop hiding behind your posts, trying to appear that you are even considering rallying behind Winston. You are soley soft selling your point of view which in reality is just hating on Winston.
April 2nd, 2015 at 9:09 pm
BTW this “site” bias has nothing to do with it…go to Buc Nation and PR, there writers are saying the same thing, that Winston going to be the pick. Hell go on ANY football related site you can find and you will find them saying the same damn thing as JBF. Winston is going to the Bucs. So all those 150 or so analysts, scouts and mock drafters are wrong and you are right. Guess what? They don’t usually get the first pick in the draft wrong, but you should already know that. Unless of course you’re slow.
Hell practically everyone in the country knows Winston is going to the Bucs, with the exception of a few slow people out there. I could call my grandmother in Germany and she would tell me Winston is going to the Bucs…That’s how many people know it.
Carry on though if you must….
April 2nd, 2015 at 9:13 pm
Tampa Bay Times, Tampa Tribune, ESPN, NFL.com, NFL Network, Walter Football and on and on it goes….
But let’s just listen to delson…he knows more than these guys that get paid to do this for a living….he has his ear to the ground and is more in-the-know than any paid football guy out there…
April 2nd, 2015 at 9:25 pm
Winston is not the best qb in this draft. Mariota is the safest pick for the future of this team. That is why interviewers are still asking about mariota or winston when it comes to lovie n licht. Even representatives of these exact websites are repeatedly asking that question. Go figure out why they are asking those questions 87
April 2nd, 2015 at 9:29 pm
Bucs have had a number of safe quarterbacks…..we now believe we should take a chance on a winning QB.
April 2nd, 2015 at 9:39 pm
@delson
I invite you to visit CDallprosportsreport.com and checkout the number one chosen player in the last 100 mock drafts…100!….Now when you come back lets see you fly high and strong your Mariota Flag!!
April 2nd, 2015 at 9:47 pm
What does a mock draft prove? That somebody has an opinion?
April 2nd, 2015 at 9:50 pm
You know what they say about opinions don’t you Delson.
They are like a$$holes. Everybody has one.
You’re just an a$$hole.
April 2nd, 2015 at 9:53 pm
LOL….Im one of the only Gators fan I know on board with JW but this is telling in a way
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April 2nd, 2015 at 9:53 pm
@delson
Those doing these 100 mock drafts are professionals who know better than you and I. The writing is on the wall. Just because you dont believe WWll is over does not mean it isn’t over. So do you think the Bucs with the second pick will go oline or defense?
April 2nd, 2015 at 9:56 pm
That last sentence is actually a fact. Watch some game tape of winston. Dont draw up a conclusion from ur own experience sitting at the fifty or behind the endzone or from a mock draft. Do some research ur own research.
April 2nd, 2015 at 10:00 pm
@UF Alum
First FYI I am an NFL fan and have no particular college team that I support.
Marcus Mariota might be shocked once he is in a pro style offense, calling audibles for the first time etc…that the 87:11 int ratio will very much be a thing of the past.
April 2nd, 2015 at 10:00 pm
Gatrbuc,
I’m a UF alum and have liked Winston since he declared for the draft.
Granted I could not believe we couldn’t beat FSU after picking him 4 times in our game. That was the nail in Muschamp’s coffin. That and the South Carolina game. He was a hell of a defensive coach. No offense is what killed him.
Reminds me a little of Lovie.
April 2nd, 2015 at 10:03 pm
@Delson
The war is over……Winston will be YOUR quarterback for 2015. Let the healing begin!!!
April 2nd, 2015 at 10:04 pm
Delson,
“That last sentence is actually a fact.”
You mean where I say…”You’re just an a$$hole?”
April 2nd, 2015 at 10:07 pm
Im not very computer savy being an old carpenter. I will try to find a link I can copy and paste normally
April 2nd, 2015 at 10:25 pm
Yeah Dave Pear……..I hear ya. I was of course in the Trade Down crowd. I wasn’t against JW because he was a Nole. I was against him because most of my Seminole buddies that were also Bucs were against him because they were afraid of what it would bring us. At this point I don’t listen to them. I listen to the people that get paid to make decisions. If it is JW great! If it is MM, great! Just go ahead and get us a QB
April 2nd, 2015 at 10:28 pm
delson Says:
April 2nd, 2015 at 9:56 pm
“That last sentence is actually a fact. Watch some game tape of winston.”
I don’t have to. I have 150 or so “experts” doing it for me and they all say Winston is the pick…
So who should I believe more, you or them?
April 2nd, 2015 at 10:33 pm
Oh and believe me. I’ve done more research on this kid than anyone on this site.
April 2nd, 2015 at 10:33 pm
The war ends on april 30th. As for the 2nd pick I want a pass rusher. We don’t have depth at de. Jacques smith isn’t proven n neither is william gholston. Besides we have kadeem edwards n kevin pamphile 2 picks from last years draft that given last year as a sit n learn/condition for the nfl, type of year could play as good as a 2nd or 3rd round guy of this years draft. Possibly better.
April 2nd, 2015 at 10:38 pm
Even some of the biggest MM supporters on this site have already conceded, the pick is going to be Winston…..the writing is on the wall. Only some people refuse or are too blind to see it. Delson I can promise you this. You’re in the minority….and that’s fine if you don’t see it. I can’t help you anymore.
April 2nd, 2015 at 10:40 pm
87LikesFreeJerseys Says:
April 2nd, 2015 at 10:33 pm
Oh and believe me. I’ve done more research on this kid than anyone on this site.
…………………………………..
One can also believe that this has Zero bearing on you ‘guaranteeing’ that he gets in no more trouble, or that he will be better than Luck.
Still luv ya tho
April 2nd, 2015 at 10:42 pm
Well 87 don’t contradict urself. If jameis is our qb n I’m hoping he isn’t, if he is I hope makes caculated risks on his anticipation throws n his double n triple team throws or there will plenty of anticipated picks n unneccessary turnovers.
April 2nd, 2015 at 10:48 pm
That is true 87 n some of the guys who were huge winston supporters are not totally sold on winston.
April 2nd, 2015 at 11:25 pm
delson…even IF I didn’t want them to take Jameis. They’re still going to. It’s THAT obvious by now…
April 2nd, 2015 at 11:27 pm
Practically every scout at the combine thinks the Bucs are taking Winston.
Everyone at the owners meeting thinks we’re taking Winston.
Every mock draft in the nation thinks were taking Winston…
Should I keep going?
April 2nd, 2015 at 11:32 pm
I think if the defense plays well next season they’ll score enough points to hunt that sixth seed until November or December and win games Vegas has them as underdogs.
April 2nd, 2015 at 11:35 pm
GatorBuc…my opinion on Winston being better than Luck has no bearing on whether they will take him or not. That’s just MY opinion.
I’ve only been telling this site for months that Winston will be the pick and to come to grips with it. Whether they, them the fan does not want him or not. The writing is on the wall.
There’s nothing you or I can do about it. He’s GOING to BE the pick.
I won’t even say I told you so when it happens, because EVERYONE and their mom already knows it already and we are 28 days away. Well not everyone, there still are a few stragglers (fans) that are too dug in. Delson is one of them.
April 2nd, 2015 at 11:39 pm
Hey 87 I have no idea why you keep trying to sell me of all people on your views when you talk to me.. Comprendo y entiendo.
April 2nd, 2015 at 11:41 pm
That last part was speaking for Pablo of course:
I hope TBBF isn’t offended.
April 3rd, 2015 at 12:47 am
Leadership. That is the biggest difference between Winston and Mariota. I said it before, i took alot of hate, but i’ll say it again, Mariota is an athlete but Winston is a quarterback.
April 3rd, 2015 at 2:07 am
What’s really funny is that about a week or so ago – ’87 posted a few different times – “I’m just gonna chill and not post much anymore – maybe just occasionally to dispute a blatant lie about Winston…But I’m done for now- I don’t need to say anymore” (paraphrased).
Sooooo what happened to chilling ’87? – LOL
My guess is that you are incapable of it with the draft in 4 weeks.
It’s cool. I understand. I’m excited too. When I saw him play his 1st couple games in 2013 – I thought – “Damn. This dude is the Sh!t. I haven’t seen this kind of IT factor since Charlie Ward. And after the National Championship, Heisman, Lights out play etc – I was hoping we could get him and didn’t even want us to take a QB last year – I didn’t see any that I thought would be as good as Winston and thought we should hold out till this year or even next and then go all in to get him – whatever the price. Well the price as it turns out is whatever the ink costs to write a name on a card. How “lucky” are the Bucs this year? I think the Doug Williams curse and/or the Chucky curse is finally done with. We aren’t gonna suck with Winston behind center. Not with the weapons he has. Winston to Evans is going to be the new combo that gets like 75 or 100+ TDs together. Like Montana to Rice or Manning to Harrison.
I see people say any High QB pick – including Winston – has a 50/50 chance of being a bust. Yea – RIGHT!
I’d say there’s a 90% chance Winston’s play will be at least NFL starting caliber and there’s about a 60+% chance he’s gonna be a Top 10 NFL QB. I feel confident saying that without ever seeing him take an NFL snap. Dude has absolutely got the gift in more ways than one. I don’t expect it – but I certainly wouldn’t be that surprised to see Winston put this 1/2 assed team on his back and win enough games next year to get into the play-offs. And the beautiful thing about the playoffs is that anything can happen – get hot – win 2 or 3 more and you are in the Super Bowl. Hell he called it before he was drafted – wouldn’t that be something… LOL – OK back to reality. 28 more days.
April 3rd, 2015 at 3:42 am
We should draft Gator DBs to play WR if we Draft Winston!
Jameis loves to throw to DBs and Gators!
April 3rd, 2015 at 3:45 am
“I’d say there’s a 90% chance Winston’s play will be at least NFL starting caliber and there’s about a 60+% chance he’s gonna be a Top 10 NFL QB.”
I seriously LOL at that one.
Winston has ZERO shot at leading any team (even one with a good O-line) to the playoffs next year, but he could lead the league in one category… Unfortunately it’s INTs.
April 3rd, 2015 at 8:19 am
“Roland Says:
April 3rd, 2015 at 3:42 am
We should draft Gator DBs to play WR if we Draft Winston!
Jameis loves to throw to DBs and Gators!”
Winston 2
UF – 0
April 3rd, 2015 at 10:06 am
Pickgrin Says:
April 3rd, 2015 at 2:07 am
“What’s really funny is that about a week or so ago – ’87 posted a few different times – “I’m just gonna chill and not post much anymore – maybe just occasionally to dispute a blatant lie about Winston…But I’m done for now- I don’t need to say anymore” (paraphrased).”
“Sooooo what happened to chilling ’87? – LOL”
“My guess is that you are incapable of it with the draft in 4 weeks.”
All of that and plus I can’t let my fans down ya know. I’m famous don’t cha know? j/k Tried to take a chill once and people came in here saying noooo don’t stop posting. That and when I get a few beers in me, I get rambunctious…like cat nip.
April 3rd, 2015 at 3:52 pm
Ok, so let’s be real for a minute, Jamies Winston is going to be the #1 overall draft pick by our Bucs. So everyone just shut up about anything else happening. As for you’ll that talk sh*t on the so called “haters” of Jamies Winston, you all need to shut up too. I’ve been called a hater by most of you just for the sheer fact that I can’t trust him until he proves to me and the franchise that he’s the real deal. I think that’s a reasonable request for the fact the he hasn’t proven shit thus far at the NFL level. So with that said, the people think that the Bucs are drafting someone else besides Winston, you’re fooling yourselves. For those that are sold on Winston, you guy got your wish, the Bucs are going to draft him so enough of the bashing on people who aren’t with ya (like me). You guys made your point and to this point he’s done well no one can deny that, but until he steps on the big boys field and shows that he’s legit and stays out of trouble, we don’t need to hear anything else from you all. No need to rub salt in the wound seriously, we’re all hoping the same team does well, and if they do with Winston after few years all you need to say is I told ya so. If he doesn’t then me, myself and everyone else you all dubbed a hater can say we told you so.
Winston is going to be the guy so everyone just accept it, support him and the team. I hope he does well, even though I’m not a believer yet because of the fact he hasn’t proven anything at the NFL a level.
I do know one thing for sure though: if we can’t get this O-line improved and start Winston as a rookie he will struggle, it will shake his confidence and very few bounce back when these things happen.
#O-line is a major concern