New Bucs DE George Johnson In Impressive Group
April 15th, 2015
If you were deemed a useless pass rusher by former Tampa Bay commander Greg Schiano, like George Johnson was, then there’s a damn good shot you have a bright future in the NFL.
Schiano’s track record of rejects and misreads, in just two seasons, was astounding.
In his clutches, Schiano had George Selvie, Michael Bennett, Wallace Gilberry and Chris Jones. But Schiano told them all to leave town. All went on to big seasons and major contributions to good winning football teams.
Selvie quickly had a seven-sack season in Dallas in 2013. Gilberry had 14 sacks through 2012 and 2013 for the Bengals. Jones has 23 starts for the Patriots through the past two seasons and owns a Super Bowl ring. And we all know the Bennett story, one that still haunts the Bucs today.
Freshly acquired by Tampa Bay today, Johnson, a former Rutgers Schiano-man of all things, was on the Buccaneers roster when Schiano arrived. And he hung around for the 2012 Schiano season, but the Bucs cut him loose.
Last year, Johnson had his breakthrough campaign, six sacks in a rotational role for the Lions, the first six sacks of his career. The Bucs will now pay him $3 million for 2015.
Joe likes Johnson’s odds, just for being a Schiano reject.
On the flip side, Schiano was convinced Da’Quan Bowers was a double-digit sacks guy, and he was thoroughly aroused by former starting DE Daniel Te’o-Nesheim. Both are under 30 and unemployed.
April 15th, 2015 at 9:21 am
Omg that’s funny as hell. He does have a bright future if Schiano didn’t like him. LMFAO
April 15th, 2015 at 9:30 am
We had him, we got rid of him, and now we are supposed to be happy to pay him 3 mil and trade for him???
Do you think he is nearly as good without Suh and Fairley???
C’mon man
April 15th, 2015 at 9:37 am
So Wonderlic tests for both QBs were really good. Mariota 33, Winston 27. Impressive
Bring us a QB L&L!!!
April 15th, 2015 at 9:37 am
Joe is misinformed. Coach Schiano had to make roster concessions to mark dominik for other arguments over the roster. mark dominik wanted his 2 high draft picks to shine and cleared the path for both busts of Clayborn and Bowers!
dominik promised Coach Schiano that Bowers could get double digit sacks. Thats why Coach said the the Bucs expect double digits on Bowers!
Heaven forbid if Joe ever asked around to get a story correct! http://www.joe-bucs-revisionist-history.com
April 15th, 2015 at 9:46 am
The more I read about these two kids the less I care which one we take.
According to ESPN Stats & Information, Mariota showed improvement as a passer last season when he was on the move and when he was stationary.
In 2013, Mariota completed 46 percent of his passes with four touchdowns and one interception while his feet were moving. In 2014, his completion percentage was 61 percent with six touchdowns and one interception.
With his feet planted, Mariota also showed improvement last season. In 2013, Mariota completed 67 percent of his passes with 27 touchdowns and three interceptions with his feet planted. In 2014, Mariota completed 70 percent of his passes with 36 touchdowns and three interceptions.
April 15th, 2015 at 9:47 am
@Joe, that can’t be right…
All the people on this board keep talking about how great a talent evaluator Schiano is…
April 15th, 2015 at 9:47 am
Schiano sent some guys packing bc the Dom had high draft picks like bowers who he had to let start. Schiano wanted to send our star qb packing shortly after he met him too. I hope johnson is great for us, but he also had did nothing for 2 years with the vikes and they cut him. Sometimes the pass rushers take a few years to develope…i hope we got a steal with George
April 15th, 2015 at 10:01 am
Let’s be honest though Wallace Gilberry was bounced from the Giants and Chiefs before he was a Buc. The guy obviously is doing well on the Bengals, sometimes it’s a matter of the player fitting the scheme. Selvie has been an even bigger journeyman, so let’s not act like Schiano let proven stud players walk. And yes Celly Schiano (IMO) was a very good talent evaluator for the Bucs.
April 15th, 2015 at 10:02 am
We’ve been going at this all wrong we never replaced booger mcfarland. We keep trying to find the next simeon but booger was the key for sapp and rice.
We need a big guy in the middle to occupy blockers and push the pocket back and not allow every qb to just step up in the pocket and have all day to throw. That will free up mccoy and give our DE’s a straight line to the qb
Once Price went down its like went down its like we stopped looking for that ‘booger’ type of player. I don’t want to here about spence etc. Not the same type of player
April 15th, 2015 at 10:03 am
Everybody with a brain knows Schiano did not pick all the players, but he had final control of the 53-man roster. Can’t blame Dominik for dropping these guys in Schiano’s lap.
April 15th, 2015 at 10:10 am
Buc Realist is correct, c’mon Joe you are blaming the coach for the roster and excluding the GM who has the checkbook?
And Celly, Schiano had plenty of problems but talent evaluation wasn’t one of them. Guess who recruited Johnson to college in the first place? His mid level program has delivered more NFL ready players than a lot of big time schools, including a fair share of pro bowlers.
April 15th, 2015 at 10:16 am
But wait. There are many JBF fans that say Schiano was a hell of a talent evaluator. And that they would still take him over Lovie. What gives Joe?
April 15th, 2015 at 10:21 am
@Jersey,
I don’t care what he did in college. What i care about i what he did when he was with the Bucs. As this list clearly shows, he got rid of multiple talented players that went on to produce elsewhere
This same “great” coach is also still out of work while the coach before him is still hanging on.
April 15th, 2015 at 10:25 am
Look at the clueless Zombies- still trying to make excuses for the worst coach in buc(NFL) history.
Only time I ever saw opposing players all standing – and laughing at Schianos plays and playcalling
April 15th, 2015 at 10:30 am
so. did he play for Frazier when he was with the vikes?
April 15th, 2015 at 10:32 am
Schiano was the worst HC in NFL history!!!
April 15th, 2015 at 10:33 am
Time…and look at the clueless Zombies defending one of the worst GM’s in NFL history….the Dominater of Doom.
April 15th, 2015 at 10:33 am
Everyone and ther mother knows that schiano was a great college recruiter. The knock on him at rutgers was that he couldnt win the big game. But you’ll are outside you’ll mind saying that he was a great nfl talent evaluator lmaooo. Blount talib and Bennett?? Then you bring in Gholston to put beside mark barron?? Two safeties that can’t cover ish deep and thats the last line of your defense??
April 15th, 2015 at 10:35 am
To the Schiano lovers out there don’t forget the lowly Browns wouldn’t even consider the worst Coach in Buc’s History. Schiano let two thousand yard rushers go who were Big Backs and both are still doing well in the NFL and one just got a Super Bowl ring. Don’t tell me what a great evaluator of talent he was! We could definitely use either one of them now and especially last year when the Schrimps he liked could not open any holes on their own. Schiano also made our RG veteran play hurt his last year, which then cost him his job here but now he starts for the Rams. His anointed great QB was a bust two years in a row after we had to watch him fail time and time again. What a brilliant judge of talent–NOT!!!
April 15th, 2015 at 10:48 am
Lovie is still a horrible talent evaluator. See: Hester, Devin as a #1 receiver, and Conte, Chris as anything other than a towel boy.
April 15th, 2015 at 10:53 am
@iamkingsu
U obviously weren’t watching clinton mcdonald last year. He’s our big dude next to GMC. Not quite booger yet, but he’s solid.
April 15th, 2015 at 11:06 am
A lot of Johnson’s production came off of Suh. Hopefully, Johnson will benefit from having McCoy there now.
April 15th, 2015 at 11:15 am
I am not saying that Coach Schiano was a good coach or a bad coach. I am saying that dominik was so bad that we cannot tell! and i am tired of so called local media giving dominik credit for anything right and blaming everyone else for something wrong. Its no wonder the media was suprised at Jfro busting! they did not question anything. Just sat there and smiled whenever dominik would talk!
April 15th, 2015 at 11:18 am
Architek Says:
April 15th, 2015 at 10:32 am
Schiano was the worst HC in NFL history!!!
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Haha that is funny.
I think David Shula has him beat (19-52). Did you forget Ray Perkins 1987-90? He posted a wonder Bucs record of 19-41. By the way Schiano is 11-21 with the Bucs. Lovie is 2-14, which means Lovie has to win 10 games this season to beat Schiano. I’m not defending Schiano, but at least he won a few games.
April 15th, 2015 at 11:55 am
Jones has a superbowl ring, lol. He worked SOOOOO hard to get it.
April 15th, 2015 at 12:00 pm
I like how people think McCoy, McDonald and Melton is a huge drop off from Suh and Fairley on the interior.
April 15th, 2015 at 12:00 pm
Joe is using previous players to distract us from the truth…that this trade should not have happened and the Bucs got a backup player to fill a starting role.
we have to “HOPE” he’ll do better than he has before. Sound familiar? That’s what we’ve had to do since Jon Gruden left, and it has never once panned out.
It’s spin. Nothing more.
April 15th, 2015 at 12:14 pm
@BB
The big difference here is that he’s not being paid “starter” money like that other guy of his same namesake.
Good depth and can provide help in a solid rotation.
I think people are too hung up on having one guy that can deliver double digit sacks. Would it be nice? Absolutely. But there is also nothing wrong with a team of DEs that can each get 5-7 sacks.
April 15th, 2015 at 12:16 pm
jfat Says:
April 15th, 2015 at 12:00 pm
I like how people think McCoy, McDonald and Melton is a huge drop off from Suh and Fairley on the interior.
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One is a top 15 unit, the other is top 3 at worst and probably #1. So yeah, I don’t know how that’s anything other than a big drop off. That’s not saying the Bucs are horrible, but they aren’t close to the Lions
Also, thinking it’s just Suh and Fairley is part of your problem. It’s more than just them.
April 15th, 2015 at 12:47 pm
Are we using the term rotational role as the new terminology for back up. Yes our great duo of Licht and Lovie just agreed to give a back up player 3 mill. Yes he has never started a game and almost quit the NFL in 2013.
Sounds like many of the FA we signed last season. Non starters and the BUCS are the only team throwing them money
Fantastic
April 15th, 2015 at 3:42 pm
Schiano is the worst coach in history but Lovie took his 4 win team and won twice?
Our top 3 free agent signings from a year ago were all cut after one year for Gods sakes! Two Offensive line starters cut before the summer and they start elsewhere?
And the point you are missing is that Dominik had final say on the roster, unlike Lovie who oversees the mess we have now.
April 15th, 2015 at 9:20 pm
Skyline crew,
No Brother- I was here for all of them.
The horrific Leeman Bennett years, that damn Perkins . .
I remember wretched Ray struggling to get an Oline together. Finally looked like we had potential. Until . .
During a team meeting, Ray, who always spoke to the guys like they were idiots to his Hitler, misunderstood something our Right tackle said- and Ray slapped the guy!!
To his credit, he didn’t kill Ray.
But he demanded a trade, refusing to play for him again.,
There went the potentialy good line!
Even with that- Schiano was worse. Mainly due to the antiquated high school offensive and defensive schemes he brought with him.
Plus having the equally horrible Dom with him, just made it worse