“It Wasn’t Always A Civil Conversation”
April 28th, 2015
A finger was pointed at Gerald McCoy last night
If Buccaneers players are truly sick and tired of losing, then the fix — the only real fix — needs to come right now.
That was the message yesterday from one of Joe’s favorite glory days Buccaneers.
Yes, Joe’s talking about pull no punches defensive end Steve White, who you can meet and chat with at Joe’s draft party at Pete & Shorty’s on Gulf To Bay Boulevard on Thursday night.
White hopped on the Press Box on Bright House Sports Network and ranted about how the leaders on the Bucs need to make damn sure the players lined up next to them are held accountable for playing to their potential and giving their all.
“And I’m looking at you right now Gerald McCoy,” White said. “It’s time to not only hold yourself accountable, but also to hold your teammates accountable as well. Because that’s what real leadership is.”
White went on to say that’s the way it was on the Buccaneers, especially the defense, back in 1999, when the Bucs were one blown call away from the Super Bowl.
“And guess what, it wasn’t always a civil conversation,” White said of players demanding everything of teammates.
Joe heard White and immediately thought of Lovie Smith talking last week about the need to “change our mentality” and get a “championship mentality.”
Joe knows one thing: that sure wasn’t on this Bucs team last year, and that can’t blamed on Jeff Tedford’s heart.
April 28th, 2015 at 11:05 am
sapp, rice, lynch, brooks
all had EARNED the right to get up in someone’s grill!!!!
we don’t have a single person besided lavonte david who is in the same position,
david and vjax should be team captains. should not even be a vote
April 28th, 2015 at 11:06 am
weak sauce. Get some nasty in there.
Ill take shane ray in the 2nd or 3rd round please
April 28th, 2015 at 11:31 am
I’d like to see McCoy step up and get some sacks when they really matter this year. Lead by example.
April 28th, 2015 at 11:35 am
Holding out a flicker of hope here that if the Bucs don’t trade back they draft Leonard Williams to add some more elite (potentially) run stop/pash rush…yeah yeah I can hear “we desperately need a QB”, “you don’t tank for a DT!”, and “hater…the pick is already in and Jameis is coming to save this franchise”. Still one can hope sanity prevails Thursday.
April 28th, 2015 at 11:36 am
Yup, change that mentality…..and it should also apply to the draftee criteria as well!
Winston of course 1st overall.
Trade back into the 1st for SS Landon Collins. (Using a high pick from next year)
2nd on LT/RT or G (many, many to name)
And SHANE RAY just fell to us in the top of the 3rd……
Thats a first 3 pick BUCCANUCLEAR BOMB that would probably get us to the playoffs……
And then find a way to trade back into the 3rd for Ali Marpet?
The draft could end there for us and I would be ecstatic.
AND its a VERY possible scenario!!!
April 28th, 2015 at 11:51 am
MadMax…. That is way to much moving around. What we need to do is stay calm and true to our own board. Don’t start freaking out when the board starts to get depleted. Don’t jump spots for a guy that might end up just making the team out of camp. Stay the course. Steady and smooth is the only way to go about this. Don’t start spending next years picks especially on a safety. Go get a safety on day 3 and let them learn the system and earn their way. No matter who we choose JW or MM I am a fan of the Bucs and I will root for that pick as I do every other one. But make no mistake we have a lot of needs and they can’t all be addressed during the draft. So stick to getting the guys to help out the Rookie QB…..
April 28th, 2015 at 12:04 pm
This is precisely why WINSton is needed. This locker room is filled with mellow personality types. Not to say anything it’s wrong with that it sure appears WINSton’s bravado could have a major impact on the younger guys like Evans,Sims and Jenkins. Because of the age similarities I can see that grouping gravitating to each other from day one. These thunder cats are gonna be dynamic.
April 28th, 2015 at 12:07 pm
One blown call? Ha ha how about a competent QB or offense? The Dungy Bucs only have themselves to blame for 0 Super Bowls.
April 28th, 2015 at 12:09 pm
Ha last year I got critized for calling mccoy “mr ice cream man” if you recall. I guess I’m not the only one that realizes he’s soft like butter.
That’s why schiano is not here anymore bc of revis the princess, mccoy the ice cream man and Freeman the im a grown man who likes to dress up like Michael Jackson wink wink wheres my buddy Michael Sam freeman.
And I’m looking at you right now Gerald McCoy,” White said. “It’s time to not only hold yourself accountable
April 28th, 2015 at 12:10 pm
McCoy is the same guy who goes on national radio/tv and says Suh is the better player. You wonder why we have struggled the last few years? There is no alpha dog on this team for the rest of the pack to follow like Sapp. I like McCoy as an individual player and person, but he is not the type of leader players feed off of. If he was, we would have already seen it. Insert Jameis Winston here. The players will feed off of him and follow him!!!
April 28th, 2015 at 12:14 pm
Thanks Lovie, I mean Bucman0620 (and I meant that as a compliment). I am patient and know how to wait and let the cookie crumble. But, as you know, we’re talking draft positions. The Buc’s own board is theirs, and I will never know it. But discussing these “potentials” from other Team’s boards IS COMPLETELY in line…..we do have the holes to fill.
Im just saying 🙂
April 28th, 2015 at 12:21 pm
I still am not sure who is the leader on the 0-line.
is it the bbq/griller guy from the patriots?
April 28th, 2015 at 12:24 pm
I think so….he’ll be wearing the C.
April 28th, 2015 at 12:40 pm
LOL. A lot of you have a $hit fit when I get on Aunt Geraldine for the same thing. I wonder what your excuse is going to be now. Whodini Geraldini better stop talking and prove it on the field. People are watching Gerald.
April 28th, 2015 at 12:56 pm
One good point was made about Gerald. He is amazingly talented and a truly awesome player but I haven’t seen him make a sack when the Saints or Falcons are driving down the field with under 2 mins. left to turn a losing game to a WINNING one. THAT is the difference we need starting this year.
It’s not just him either. There is a shitload of talent on that D.
April 28th, 2015 at 1:36 pm
I think what McCoy has done with absolutely zero edge pressure is nothing short of amazing. If we ever get true pressure from defensive ends McCoy will have double digit sacks every year. Funny how fans think McCoy is soft but the pundits think he is the best DT in the NFL. Marcell Dareus has Mario Williams
and Aaron Donald has Robert Quinn. McCoy has…..that’s right…NOONE! Guys a beast and anyone who understands football and how the DT position works realizes that a DT needs a good DE and they feed off of each other. Sapp had Rice and the list goes on and on.
April 28th, 2015 at 2:40 pm
Looking at the 2013 draft teh bucs had several chances to pair mccoy up with interior help had they not done that boneheaded trade with the Jets for Revis, they could have had sheldon richardson or shariff floyd and anotehr in round 2 instead of jonathan banks…..a solid nucleus and core to build a dominating defense…the rockstar and that group really destroyed the bucs with their crappy personnel moves and hopefully lovie and licht to not go OH for 2 in this draft
April 28th, 2015 at 6:44 pm
McCoy is a company man and has never showed up in a big situation. He talks the talk but never walked the walked.