Is Jameis Winston Ignoring Derrick Brooks?
April 15th, 2015It’s not all love and hugs and kisses for Jameis Winston at the JoeBucsFan.com world headquarters.
Joe has spent plenty of time scrutinizing the young man likely to start at quarterback for Tampa Bay when the preseason kicks off in four short months in Minnesota.
So Joe must ask the question, Is Winston ignoring the advice and wisdom of the Buccaneers’ great sage, Mr. Derrick Brooks?
Consider what Brooks, who has been a mentor of Winston, told WDAE-AM 620 in March.
“We’ve obviously been talking for quite a bit,” Brooks said of his communication with Winston. “I can’t just some all this up into one word and into one sentence. So I try to take it situation by situation [with Winston.] Lately, I’ve been talking to him about focusing on making himself the best draft prospect,” Brooks said.
“Don’t worry about trying to impress everybody with who you are as a man, because that’s going to take time. But the things you can control is your performance. Right now, the next opportunity you have to perform will be at Florida State’s [pro day], and then the individual workouts that a team may bring you in. Focus in on that.
“Secondly, stay invisible, which he’s done a good job of that. Not on social media, not out in the public, just stay invisible, just try to make yourself the best draft prospect you can.”
Joe sees ESPN.com followed Winston for many weeks to write a long feature story that appeared today. Winston jumped back on social media after a hiatus, and he was doing seemingly every interview possible at the Florida State pro day. Winston also was at the Pinellas beaches last weekend frolicking at swanky events with ex-Buccaneers and others.
None of that feels like Winston heeded Brooks’ call to “just stay invisible” before the draft.
Joe has no problem with Winston’s activities, none at all. But it’s a small red flag if Winston isn’t going to take the words of Brooks as gospel.
Yes, Brooks possibly blessed Winston’s specific activities Joe referenced, but Joe must call the cards visible on the table.
April 15th, 2015 at 12:50 pm
Whatever,
You did create a story out of thin opinionated air so congrats!
April 15th, 2015 at 12:51 pm
Seems like his social media activity is mostly football related…
As for the interviews he’s been doing… if he declined those, it’d just be another thing for the haters to pile on.
JW is fine. Is it April 30th yet?
April 15th, 2015 at 12:52 pm
I hear too many folks out there who expect Brooks to monitor Winston once he’s here.
That is not his job, his (Brooks) life and career are outside the Bucs organization……
So Winston needs to be trusted to make it on his own….
Simple as that
April 15th, 2015 at 12:56 pm
Only two more weeks of troll/bait posts. Hopefully.
April 15th, 2015 at 12:56 pm
Proud Of you joe
April 15th, 2015 at 1:00 pm
yes, stay in visible Winston. Hide your true character until AFTER the draft, then go back to being silly and not taking things seriously. You know, like you did at the end of the season, when you porked up 17 lbs because you were lazy and had to lose it before the combine…
April 15th, 2015 at 1:00 pm
“So Winston needs to be trusted”
thanks, I needed a laugh.
trust is earned.
April 15th, 2015 at 1:04 pm
No you’re fair and balanced as always Joe. [SARCASM]
April 15th, 2015 at 1:04 pm
What I love is right above the Article heading, an ad says “Accused of a Crime?” LOL! he’ll probably need that considering his track record.
April 15th, 2015 at 1:07 pm
He is doing interviews with future employees why would you turn that down, he turned down the invite to draft and look how people knocked him. (STILL HAVENt HEARD ONE COMPLAINT ABOUT MM NOT GOING).
He does the interviews and seems like your knocking him JOE !
I didn’t hear any negative about interaction he had a fundraisers over the weekend , actually you heard positive so why make it seem like he was out partying and being crazy..
I was pro MM, but the more time the more I see Jamies as the better pick and has “IT”.
You might want to re-read what Joe actually wrote here. –Joe
April 15th, 2015 at 1:17 pm
Does Jameis Winston make use of his morning wood??? Wow, I tell u what… I think you’re too obsessed… I know Johnny Manziel is clean and sober, heck I think he’s about to fart though
April 15th, 2015 at 1:18 pm
Bucs should draft two safties not a nickel corner and Holliman should be one of them. Rowe won’t be there but I like another cat just can’t remember his name.
(1)Winston
(2)DE
(3)OL
(4)Trade Glennon and draft saftey
(4)Saftey
(5)Trade Martin and draft DE, or OL
(5)DE, OL, or runningback
(6)Punter
(7)BPA
April 15th, 2015 at 1:18 pm
Hopefully Fameis and his girlfriend are truly tight. If she’s taking care of him and they love each other I would take great comfort. If he’s out in the limelight as a free and easy single dude…well let’s just say history hasn’t been kind to him when it comes to the ladies.
Otherwise I growing more comfortable. He did an interview on an ESPN show last night that pretty much acknowledged he was a bone head in college and didn’t realize all the scrutiny that came with being a Heisman Trophy winner and a national champion. I can understand that. What’s important is that he seems to have finally figured it out.
April 15th, 2015 at 1:19 pm
That’s an awfully strange take Joe.
Brooks – “I’ve been talking to him about focusing on making himself the best draft prospect”.
That is exactly what Winston has been doing. Granting all the interviews and showing off his personality and charisma is what he is and should be doing. Showing people that he is not the type of person they might have negatively assumed he was is crucially important to showing himself as the best draft prospect possible. And its working. I see it on these threads. People who didn’t like him previously are warming up to him quickly because he is showing his personality in many ways. And its hard not to like the guy once you get a sense of who he really is.
To include showing up at the Allstott family foundation event as some kind of negative is preposterous. Even though it was not an officially sanctioned “Bucs event” – it basically was. And Winston was treated as part of the family and met and mingled with many who are part of the Buccaneer “family”.
When Brooks said “stay invisible” he meant don’t be seen or visible in a way that HURTS your draft status (ala Manziel partying and boozing w/ celebrities).
Winston’s visibility the last 6 weeks has only HELPED his draft status. To imply otherwise makes no sense. I guess we can just chalk this article up to being part of “silly season”
April 15th, 2015 at 1:21 pm
1-trade the pick
rd 1 OL
rd 1 OL or DE / BPA
rd 2 MLB
rd 3 OL or DE / BPA
rd 4 KR/WR
rd 5 BPA
rd 6 BPA
rd 7 BPA
probably even have another pick or two to play with, then start the cannon and get a suitable backup.
April 15th, 2015 at 1:22 pm
Why cant the draft be tonight
April 15th, 2015 at 1:26 pm
Robert I like you’re thinking. If Glennon had more time in the pocket he could be great. The oline is key to running and strong running games usually translate to open receivers on play action passes.
April 15th, 2015 at 1:28 pm
Almost every comment robert9 makes i laugh at. Didnt you say. Youre gonna be a dolphins fan.if they draft winston. Buy ur dolphins jeresy. Bc winston is our qb.
April 15th, 2015 at 1:30 pm
“Stay invisible” is hard for the first overall pick to do.
Don’t get arrested or in trouble is what he meant.
April 15th, 2015 at 1:30 pm
Robert 9 is a moron
April 15th, 2015 at 1:32 pm
After Kendricks there are no other good MLB’s in this draft maybe the Bucs can pick one up as an UFA. I’m betting on Herron to make a big jump and become that slot wr. After Winston it should be:
DE
OL
FS
FS
DE or OL
DE, DT, OL, or punter
DT, OL, KR/PR or DE
April 15th, 2015 at 1:38 pm
@ joegruden
if they don’t fix the OL the right way then JW is just gonna force the ball, get picked and the D will get worked more than EK on all you can drink night.
heck, at least glennon protects the ball…the way their headed it’s gonna be a repeat of last year with the defense on the field for 45 minutes.
no knock on JW, but no QB is gonna do anything with this OL. They’ll be jammin evans and vjax all day every day because they know they only have to cover them for 1.5-2 seconds.
April 15th, 2015 at 1:39 pm
Wow, that’s the worst “story” this site has ever produced.
Really?
April 15th, 2015 at 1:40 pm
I’m ignoring joebucsfan for now lol ….the winston campaign overdose is tiring….like to hear more about the actual team than a speculation draftee…and moan about winston all you want, the pick isn’t in yet…
April 15th, 2015 at 1:40 pm
JOE: DID I INTERPET THSI WRONG ?
Winston jumped back on social media after a hiatus, and he was doing seemingly every interview possible at the Florida State pro day. Winston also was at the Pinellas beaches last weekend frolicking at swanky events with ex-Buccaneers and others.
None of that feels like Winston heeded Brooks’ call to “just stay invisible” before the draft.
Joe has no problem with Winston’s activities, none at all. But it’s a small red flag if Winston isn’t going to take the words of Brooks as gospel.
IS THIS YOUR OPINION OR THE ARTICLE ON ESPN. IF YOURS THAN MY PREVIOUS POST IS ONLINE…
caps are to tell apart my part not for emotion
April 15th, 2015 at 1:44 pm
This story blows….
April 15th, 2015 at 1:49 pm
The Jets,Cardinals,Rams, and Titans could give up a 3rd or 4th rounder for Glennon. The Cowboys,Patriots,Bronco’s,Rams,Cardinals,Jets,Bills,Jags,Titans, and Chargers would give up a 5th for Martin, TRADE THEM!
April 15th, 2015 at 1:54 pm
This is what happens when you try to appease the Winston’s haters and grasp for straws to find any flaws in Winston’s recent life…you realize, there aren’t any.
April 15th, 2015 at 2:00 pm
Cmon man this is some gross exageration I would expect from the likes of stephen A. smith that fool…..there is nothing here joe…..
April 15th, 2015 at 2:09 pm
Have to agree with many others in that this is just a weird take. Pretty sure Brooks means stay out of the bars, strip clubs and party’s. I would think attending a charity event would be seen as a good thing.
April 15th, 2015 at 2:13 pm
Joe,
If by scrutinize you mean tongue punch his dirt box… Yeah you have scrutinized that crap out of Winston.
April 15th, 2015 at 2:13 pm
Glennon “protecting the ball” has gotten us 5 wins in the last 2 years. I’m ready for a gunslinger.
April 15th, 2015 at 2:18 pm
Newbucsfan!!! Says:
April 15th, 2015 at 1:49 pm
The Jets ,Cardinals,Rams, and Titans could give up a 3rd or 4th rounder for Glennon.
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Not a chance. 5th-6th rounder at best, maybe even conditional 6th rounder at best. If they could have gotten that for him, he’d have already been dealt.
April 15th, 2015 at 2:23 pm
I’d trade#1 to San Diego for rivers and their 1st and 4th round pick
April 15th, 2015 at 2:23 pm
Jumped the shark with this story.
April 15th, 2015 at 2:35 pm
For those that want to trade Glennon for a DL/OL please tell me who our QB would be? We only have 1 and that is Glennon. If we draft a QB at the draft and trade Glennon we still only have 1. So please tell me who our other QBs would be.
April 15th, 2015 at 2:36 pm
I think this story is a bit much to be made of nothing… but I did say a few weeks ago when reports came out that Brooks would “mentor” Jameis that Bo Jackson crapped on Jameis after his failed attempts to mentor him.
Maybe Jamies doesn’t respect these guys bc he sees em as dinosaurs, or maybe he’s just that confident in his ways and doesn’t feel like he needs the coaching… but it is definitely a small red flag that we can look back on IF Winston proves to turn out like Johnny Football
April 15th, 2015 at 2:57 pm
Hmmmm…..even JBF, who should be better known as JWF, said the phrase “red flag” !!!! Welcome to the party JBF, even if you’re a bit late!!!
April 15th, 2015 at 2:58 pm
Thank God robert is not our GM!
April 15th, 2015 at 2:58 pm
Thank God Ed Kerber is not our GM!
April 15th, 2015 at 3:12 pm
@Joe… thought you were taking a vacation from the JW articles.
April 15th, 2015 at 3:44 pm
It’s impossible for a top tier drat prospect to stay invisible. It will be even harder for Winston when he becomes a starting QB in the NFL.
April 15th, 2015 at 3:47 pm
@joe… Winston supposed to be visiting bears… Is he there?
April 15th, 2015 at 4:13 pm
Tell me Ron Jaworski didnt write this c’mon guys really…
April 15th, 2015 at 4:14 pm
If the Buc’s choose Winston, I’ll have my left “nut” tweezed off…Mariotta is the pick.
April 15th, 2015 at 4:28 pm
@schlomie… Get tweezen!!! Winston baby!
April 15th, 2015 at 6:14 pm
Uh Robert how exactly do you expect us to trade down and get TWO picks in the first round this year? I have heard you say all the nonsense about trading down twice, but how in the hell does that get us two first round picks this year???
I think one team has two first round picks so if the Browns don’t want to dance how exactly do we pull that off! You have always struck me as an extremely smart guy so I would be fascinated as to how you see this happening!
April 15th, 2015 at 8:08 pm
Ed Kerber
Trade to San Diego and in two years you would be looking for another QB. How much do you think Rivers has left in th tank? Besides, what has he ever done besides rack up the stats. He’s a poor mans Marino.
This strategy is anti-progressive. Aren’t you all tired of patching things together? Aren’t you tired of wondering, who will lead us this year? Maybe we should just go get another Josh McCown. That worked well, didnt it?
Man, I swear its almost like some of the fans are too scared to go get a 10+ year starter that has potential to take us all the way. Please, no more retreads and no more trade downs.
April 15th, 2015 at 8:53 pm
To the Wonderlic score guy: http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jameis-winston-marcus-mariota-wonderlic-test-scores-revealed-27-33-scouting-combine-041515
Lists recent QB’s that were drafted as well as big name stars. Seems pretty meaningless all told. Hell if it’s a cognitive/intelligence assessment test I assume many of the posters on here with good spelling and grammar might score in the 40’s.
April 15th, 2015 at 9:21 pm
@sick of the debate – thank you! Well said. Baffling that guys would want to trade the #1 pick for a short term fix. I want to know what it’s like to have a franchise QB for the long term. If he doesn’t pan out oh well. We’ve got to take a chance and I do think Winston is going to be good (maybe not great his rookie year but eventually).
April 16th, 2015 at 1:27 am
So, does rob 9 make rape jokes while still accusing jameis of having bad character? Are you ‘that guy’? Enjoy the tanny hill project..:)