Good News: Dave Wannstedt Votes Mariota
April 27th, 2015
Once upon a time in 1997, the Bears, with the full support of then head coach Dave Wannstedt, were happy to cough up their first-round draft pick in a trade for Seattle bust QB Rick Mirer, the No. 2 overall pick in the 1993 draft.
What a historic disaster.
At least when Lovie Smith coughed up multiple first-round picks for bratty Jay Cutler, his Bears got a solid player in return and were in the NFC Championship game a year later. (Yeah, Joe knows Lovie’s 2010 Bears had the NFL’s 30th ranked offense.)
So with all that in mind, Joe was pleased to hear Wannstedt chatting about how Marcus Mariota is his choice if he had to draft a quarterback this week, during an interview on 99.3 FM in Fort Myers.
Wannstedt, the 2013 Bucs special teams coach, prefers defensive end Leonard Williams and is too nervous about Jameis Winston. He said Winston will bring “negativity” to the team with the “pending civil suits,” and taking that on is “a big decision when you’re trying to get the franchise turned around.”
Joe can’t argue with the assertion that Winston will bring a negative light on the Bucs as his civil suit progresses. That’s inevitable, given the media coverage. However, some bad press is no reason to pass on the best available quarterback prospect.
Building a football team always is a series of calculated gamble. Winston is far less of a gamble than handing the football to a career loser QB like Josh McCown and asking him to be a winner.
April 27th, 2015 at 10:07 am
JBF…this is NOT a Infamous vs. McCown question…..please!! And I’ll go with Father Dungy over any other ex coach’s opinions.
April 27th, 2015 at 10:08 am
Winston is far less of a gamble than handing the football to a career loser QB like Josh McCown and asking him to be a winner.
Not only that but we’re not paying winston a 50mil contract. He gets 5mil? We spent 5mil on mccown last yr and got 2 wins, oh wait wait wait 1 of those wins was glennons. Lol
So we paid mclown 5 mil for 1 win, so unless winny comes in and wins 0 games we did better than last year.
April 27th, 2015 at 10:17 am
Here’s why you defeat yourself with this logic…. You endorsed Manziel. Now you endorse Winston.
April 27th, 2015 at 10:21 am
Draft #MARIOTA. Better option for a full career then the piece of crap that goes by the name of winston
April 27th, 2015 at 10:26 am
I think nervous is the right word. Why in the heck did we have to get the #1 pick in a draft that has legitimate question marks surrounding the 2 guys that play the position we need the most? Damn Colts hit the jackpot with Peyton Manning and then fall over and find themselves with Andrew Luck….and meantime the Bucs haven’t found their proverbial butt with both hands when it comes to even a decent QB. I’m leaning heavily towards Winston, but sure wish I felt better about it.
April 27th, 2015 at 10:35 am
I just can’t understand all the negitive about Mariota, And just wait till Winston is drafted by the Buc’s ,,(if so) I want to hear you all say (oh it wasn’t Winston falt we lost) but yet, you can blame it all on McCown and he was a sh$$ty quarter back, Lets see if you do the same to Winston when he looses a game, You Winston lovers are all pathtic !!!!!!!
April 27th, 2015 at 10:38 am
If Winston wins a few games and stays out of trouble, all of his issues will be forgotten. Right or wrong, that’s the way it works. Look no further than Ray Lewis and Big Ben.
April 27th, 2015 at 10:40 am
if the bucs take Winston I will have to support him because a am a bucs fan. but, I sure hope they don’t. I am hoping the bucs take a d-end, mariota or trade down.
April 27th, 2015 at 10:40 am
If Winston loses a few fames and stays out of trouble, all of the blame will be on the Offensive Coordinator and head coach, that’s the way it works. Look not further than Freeman!
April 27th, 2015 at 10:41 am
If Winston loses a few games and stays out of trouble, all of the blame will be on the Offensive Coordinator and head coach, that’s the way it works. Look not further than Freeman!
April 27th, 2015 at 10:42 am
YOU WINSTON LOVERS ARE PATHTIC LOOSERS. HOW ABOUT THAT JOE DID I DUPLICATE THAT OR DID I SAY THAT ALREADY,
April 27th, 2015 at 10:42 am
@you can’t fix it,
It’s hilarious that with all the hate directed at Winston, you could actually have the nerve to cry about “negativity about Mariota”. Give me a freaking break. No one dislikes Mariota, we just believe Winston will be the better pro. Stop being over dramatic and making things more complicated.
And no one is saying Winston is going to lead us to the Super Bowl in year 1. He’s going to struggle, just like every rookie. However, if he plays like McClown, I for one will not give him a pass. McCown was absolutely horrendous in every aspect, and I will never accept QB play like that from anyone.
April 27th, 2015 at 10:48 am
“you can’t fix it Says:
April 27th, 2015 at 10:42 am
YOU WINSTON LOVERS ARE PATHTIC LOOSERS.”
Can we save this for ironic posterity?
April 27th, 2015 at 10:49 am
Mariota also number 1 on Grudens big board. But what does he know.
“I don’t understand why he isn’t the No. 1 player in this draft on Mel Kiper’s Big Board. I don’t know anybody in this draft that can do for a football team what Mariota can do. He can read the field. That whole thing about Oregon being a no-huddle, dive-option team, that is just a narrative resulting from a lack of information. The Ducks run a lot of pro-style concepts. Mariota does a lot with the protections. I’ve seen him throw the ball with touch and timing in tight windows.”
Talk all the crap you want about Gruden I would still take his opinion over anyone that posts here.
April 27th, 2015 at 10:53 am
Totally unrelated…went on bucs nation and took the who would you vote for JW or MM…selected JW….checked the result numbers…did it again…and MM numbers went up…I swear they are backwards…did it a few more times same result…how funny is that ?
April 27th, 2015 at 10:54 am
Only 3 more days of QB bashing and then the debate is over and half the contributors to the comment section of this site will change their names.
I am pulling for Winston, but would welcome Mariota if that is our pick. No need to type in all caps or start the name calling to those that don’t agree with me.
The draft can’t get here fast enough!!! I am actually just as excited for Day 2, that is where a lot of our fortune for the next few years may be decided…
April 27th, 2015 at 10:54 am
I’ll make it simple for you. No ones trying to trade up for Winston. They want to trade up for Mariota. Pick Mariota !
April 27th, 2015 at 10:57 am
Joe you have been pushing Winston forever, please tell us point by point why you think he is so much better the Mariota and don’t do the drop back passer thing because Winston plays Baseball and has a windup.
Just the facts, Joe.
April 27th, 2015 at 10:59 am
Face it everyone. The Bucs as a whole are a train wreck. They need to pour a solid foundation and can’t afford any tremors or aftershocks while the cement cures.
Winston is already a tremor (a distraction), because of his past indiscretions and the civil lawsuit. Who knows how many aftershocks Winston will bring as the suit progresses.
The Bucs just don’t need any more tremors or aftershocks at this point in their development into a winning team. With most of the on-the-field questions satisfactorily answered in the run up to the draft, Mariota is the smart play for the long run.
Tampa Bay can’t afford to swing and miss on this one, so better to take the more conservative route and take the guy who’ll bring the fewest distractions in his luggage.
April 27th, 2015 at 10:59 am
You can’t fix stupid!
April 27th, 2015 at 11:09 am
you can’t fix it said:
“I just can’t understand all the negitive about Mariota…”
I am NOT in the Winston fan club (unless(IF) he is drafted by the Bucs), but I just couldn’t let this statement pass without comment. I re-read the article AND the comments (leading up to this post), and am totally baffled by the above statement. Just exactly where is “… all the negitive about Mariota…”?
There is FAR more negativity about Winston (undeserved as well as earned), but nothing negative has been posted in/under this article that I can see, pertaining to Mariota. I understand you are passionate about your bias, but try to be a little more rational about your statements. If you make outrageous statements, then no one will pay attention when you have something interesting to say.
But, honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me if Lovie/Licht/Glazers argue, Thursday night, until the bell rings.
April 27th, 2015 at 11:14 am
Welcome to Tampa Jameis, thanks for weeding out a portion of the pathetic loser fans that were too ignorant to comprehend you were railroaded by a cleat chasing sank who deserves zero respect for her attempted money grab.
April 27th, 2015 at 11:26 am
it is going to be funny Thursday press conference after Jameis is “officially a buc” when lovie and his lapdog proclaim that Winston was leading the pack all along and he did nothing to change their minds. All haters will choke on their beverage of choice when they are forced to accept mariota was never a real option. I suspect those are the same people who constantly cry Glennon was not treated unfairly versus accepting 8 couldn’t beat out McCown and his 5-13 record is unfair too. Mariota is probably going to be fine but lovie can’t afford to wait. QB this year head coach next year .
April 27th, 2015 at 11:27 am
Tmaxcon….”weeding out a portion of the pathetic loser fans”?…..If they choose Infamous, the Great Divider of our miniscule Buc nation, the population at Raymond James on a Sunday afternoon gameday would dwindle even further. The Glazers know this…..and they are businessmen first. And calling an alleged rape victim a “skank” (I’m sure you meant “skank” and not “sank”…talk about ignorant) is quite classy. Now you should use the JBF line, and call Infamous “too handsy” while you’re at it.
April 27th, 2015 at 11:36 am
He wasn’t even successful at special teams coaching who cares what he thinks cuz it really only matters the opinion coming out of one buc place. Opinions are irrelevant this week the draft board is set
April 27th, 2015 at 11:44 am
Let’s all remember, Lovie doesn’t place near as much importance on having a stud QB as he does a premier pass rush. Though Winston is the odds-on-favorite first pick, I would not be surprised at all to see the Bucs draft Williams or even Fowler with their first pick and then take the 3rd best QB on the board with a late second round pick via trade, whomever is third best.
And as tough as it has been to find a top-shelf DE over the last 5 years or so, that might be the right move too, especially if they can trade down a few slots, take Fowler, and get some more impact picks to boot. Bucs Nation doesn’t need the circus to come to town with Winston and M2 seems too much of a stretch in the Bucs system.
April 27th, 2015 at 11:48 am
who thinks mad scientist Chip Kelly makes a blockbuster morgage the future trade to get his boy MM.Will make this draft real interesting stay tuned dont be surprised.
April 27th, 2015 at 1:00 pm
Hey Joe. Has Bill Parcells said anything about Winston or Mariota?
Given his judgment concerning Qbs over the years, I would trust his.
April 27th, 2015 at 1:06 pm
Mariota joe
She is not an alleged rape victim she lost the benefit of the doubt after the 4 or 5th round of lies. She is a cleat chaser on a money grab mission.
April 27th, 2015 at 1:24 pm
Of course its not Jameis fault he got accused of rape shes just a gold digging cleat chaser. And of course its not his fault he got accused of shop lifting the clerk that outed him never got the memo. And of course its not his fault his mechanics are sloppy, hes a baseball player. And those 18 ints he threw? He didnt actually throw any his wrs ran the wrong route or deflected each one to the opposing team. When he struggles as a rookie (even though most supporters said he will adjust instantaneously to the NFL when the draft process started funny how that narrative has shifted btw) its not going to be his fault again because he is just a rookie.
Look I hope jameis as good as you guys claim he is since odds are we are drafting him, but not holding him accountable for any of his mistakes is only going to hinder his development as a player and as a man. I hope the jameis crowd can start to be critical of him some day because without criticism he wont grow up.
April 27th, 2015 at 1:35 pm
So, like in Winston makes people loose? That’s kind of odd…
April 27th, 2015 at 2:06 pm
There is some serious hatred for Winston on this site. I can’t see them turning it off after we draft him either. They have spent four months convincing themselves that he is the devil. I feel bad for these guys. They may be life long fans that now hate the most important player on the team.
April 27th, 2015 at 2:39 pm
I am in support of whichever player the Bucs choose. I think it is going to be Winston though. My question is, are the people on here who hate some of the top prospects, going to quit being Bucs fans if they do not pick who they want? I thought not!!! OK, now let the hurling of insults at the players not desired as well as bloggers with opposing views continue!
April 27th, 2015 at 3:11 pm
ed Says:
April 27th, 2015 at 1:24 pm
Look I hope jameis as good as you guys claim he is since odds are we are drafting him, but not holding him accountable for any of his mistakes is only going to hinder his development as a player and as a man. I hope the jameis crowd can start to be critical of him some day because without criticism he wont grow up.
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Why does winston supporters have to be critical? I am not sure you have noticed, but there are a number of Winston bashers that are critical enough don’t you think? Why is it a problem if some people choose to stand behind this young man? Doesn’t everyone make mistakes? I believe supporting someone when they are down and the whole world is against him/her actually helps them get through the struggle because they know they are not by themselves and they have someone in their corner. Its great to know this young man have people like Brooks and Dunn in his corner. I think having them as a support group is more beneficial than the likes of Robert9, Barry, supersam etc. critical analysis BS.
April 27th, 2015 at 4:10 pm
[Well “Joey,” seems that you post here under several usernames and often you go after Joe and how Joe isn’t fit to comment on the Bucs. Since Joe is so awful, guess there is no need for you to comment on this site either, right? You also claimed last week you were “not coming back” but you have commented quite a few time since. So Joe will help you in your quest to stay away. — Joe]
April 27th, 2015 at 4:40 pm
I think winston will turn around our franchise. Plus the bucs will actually get talked about and some national press. Good or bad for once..i like winstons competitive cocky attitude… it will help our dull team
id be ok drafting mariota i guess, i really dont like his personality playing qb, to shy and quiet. I just have a gut feeling mariota is a bust, he reminds me of blane gabbert but a bit better
April 27th, 2015 at 5:40 pm
Joey Says:
April 27th, 2015 at 4:10 pm
[Well “Joey,” seems that you post here under several usernames and often you go after Joe and how Joe isn’t fit to comment on the Bucs. Since Joe is so awful, guess there is no need for you to comment on this site either, right? You also claimed last week you were “not coming back” but you have commented quite a few time since. So Joe will help you in your quest to stay away. — Joe]
you can’t fix it Says:
April 27th, 2015 at 10:42 am
YOU WINSTON LOVERS ARE PATHTIC LOOSERS. HOW ABOUT THAT JOE DID I DUPLICATE THAT OR DID I SAY THAT ALREADY,
you can’t fix it Says:
April 27th, 2015 at 10:35 am
I just can’t understand all the negitive about Mariota, And just wait till Winston is drafted by the Buc’s ,,(if so) I want to hear you all say (oh it wasn’t Winston falt we lost) but yet, you can blame it all on McCown and he was a sh$$ty quarter back, Lets see if you do the same to Winston when he looses a game, You Winston lovers are all pathtic !!!!!!!
Joe, can you help the above poster understand the use of the English language as you helped “Joey”. One time it can be a typo but over and over again? Clearly, the basics of spelling, caps lock, and putting together sensible sentences eludes “Mr. Fix It”.
April 27th, 2015 at 6:24 pm
Hey TMAXI-PAD Since you know everything I hope someone says that about your daughter some day.
April 27th, 2015 at 6:24 pm
Talk about a pathetic loser fan!
April 27th, 2015 at 6:27 pm
Oh yeah that would require you to actually reproduce, No Thanks!
April 27th, 2015 at 6:50 pm
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April 27th, 2015 at 7:08 pm
David,
I love you pathetic little keyboard tough guys…. I hope someone falsely accuses your son. it’s a too way street loser
Since you obviously can’t read the police reports and testimonies that have been given please find someone to read them to you…
April 27th, 2015 at 8:43 pm
I know how to use and spell TWO in a sentence. Who is it that can’t read? Trying to remember when I learned that, gee what was it first grade. Next time have your mommy proof read it for you. Hey everybody it’s Perry Mason!
April 27th, 2015 at 8:49 pm
And like a douche Tmax is here to cover up the stench of Winston!
April 28th, 2015 at 1:06 am
Tiny Tim
Fair enough I understand hes still just a kid and prone to immaturity. Im not saying to throw him away because he has made mistakes. But if he is never held accountable then its just enabling him to keep making the same mistakes over and over (see ben rothlesberger too lazy too look up the correct spelling). If the Bucs do pick him number 1 I want him to not only lead us to wins but to represent us across the country. If hes going to be the face of the franchise he has to be held to a higher standard than you and I.