Dungy’s Montana-Mariota Silliness
April 30th, 2015
Father Dungy might be soon-to-be NFL quarterback Marcus Mariota’s biggest fan.
Heck, Joe talked 1-on-1 with Dungy about this topic during Super Bowl week.
Dungy sees elite greatness in Mariota, though Dungy acknowledges Mariota will require significant time to make that happen.
That’s awesome. Joe agrees that Mariota can be great, too. However, Joe thinks Dungy took his Mariota love over the top yesterday on PFT Live on NBC Sports Radio.
Dungy implied Mariota will command Joe Montana-like respect right away. Here’s a snippet (you can read more via the link):
“What players want the quarterback to do is make plays when the plays are out there to make,” Dungy said. “I remember Joe Montana coming in, I was with the 49ers Joe’s rookie year. He didn’t say two words to anybody. But when he got out on the field, you understood this guy was all business, he knew what he was doing, pressure didn’t bother him. And he was a leader.”
Dungy was a 1979 teammate of Montana with the 49ers, but for the record, Montana was a third-round draft pick who made just one start for that 2-14 San Francisco team. He wasn’t exactly under pressure and wasn’t expected to lead.
If the Bucs draft Mariota — or whatever team does atop the first round — he’ll be under immense pressure. The NFL is a different world than it was 36 years ago, or 10 years ago, or even seven years ago.
Jameis Winston seems much more equipped to handle what’s coming this year.
April 30th, 2015 at 2:05 pm
It seems as if the experts are only “silly” when their views dont support your views sometimes. Just sayin
April 30th, 2015 at 2:06 pm
Tony Dungy: QB guru?
April 30th, 2015 at 2:07 pm
In the right system and a few years to sit and learn, I also think there is a chance that Mariota could turn our to be a good QB. Unfortunately we can’t offer those things. Love Dungy, but I’m not turning to him for QB analysis, no offense to Mr. Dungy.
April 30th, 2015 at 2:08 pm
I love Dungy, but ….wow
April 30th, 2015 at 2:09 pm
just like Lovie, Dungy is a nice man and a great role model but he is not an authority on offense. He cost the bucs at least 2 super bowls and indy at least 1 super bowl with his dinosaur philosophies. Dungy was exactly what the bucs needed in mid 90s and all fans should be grateful for what he does in the community but the man does not get a lifetime free pass nor made it out to be an expert on topics that he clearly has no expertise in. Actually, he has been fired because he could not grasp the concept offense. I am glad he likes mariota, he can join dungy’s crusaders when he is out of the league because of injury in 3 years.
April 30th, 2015 at 2:10 pm
Not saying that this is the case here, because I have serious doubts that the debate is even this close, but would teams be able to talk to the potential draft picks’ agents prior to the draft and talk to them about potential contract terms that they would be looking for or would that be considered tampering? I know that the rookie wage scale makes things pretty clear cut but I know that there are some aspects of the contracts that have to be ironed out after being drafted.
April 30th, 2015 at 2:11 pm
Jamie or Mariota won’t be a winning QB this year.
No team drafting either QB willwin the Superbowl.
Are you willing make the statement that year two jamies will be better than mariota?
In the NFl you play long ball, not short game.
Rookies aren’t saviors, 2 year players are.
We are gonna look like idiots in the 2016 playoffs
April 30th, 2015 at 2:12 pm
it’s hard to say we he can see this so clearly when he didn’t play in a pro style offense. I don’t agree or disagree with dungy all I know is he gushed about all that mariota can do, he didn’t say Winston couldn’t do all those same things and it only makes sense to draft the guy you saw do it consistently.
if you played in a spread option type offense and all the previous qb’s before mariota had an adjustment period why wouldn’t mariota. if you think mariota is a day one starter why isn’t Winston? don’t understand why dungy is crying so much about this
April 30th, 2015 at 2:12 pm
Tmaxx, I agree on most about Dungy, but according to former players , Kiffin cost them in ’99.
April 30th, 2015 at 2:13 pm
The best thing that could happen for Mariota is to start falling. Ideally for him (not so much for the Bucs) would be if he fell to the Saints at 13. He could sit behind Drew for a year or two and then stand a chance for that Aaron Rodgers like entry into the league.
Not sure the Eagles would let him fall that far, but I don’t know that he would be as successful there. Too much pressure early, and the Eagles would probably have to sell the farm to jump up and get him (Which I am totally OK with).
April 30th, 2015 at 2:14 pm
Jameis may be more ready for the NFL. He may not be. He might get F’d right in his P by JJ Watt on September 27th.
April 30th, 2015 at 2:17 pm
gmail.com
Let’s see Dungy’s qb’s (That he started a season as a starter)
Dilfer–Won a Superbowl
King–Got to NFC Championship
Johnson–Won a Superbowl
at Indy:
Manning–Won a Superbowl
Joe’s qb’s:
Johnny Manziel–Won Beer pong championship.
Jameis Winston–Lost 1 college game and the receipt for the Crab Legs
I’ll go with Joe’s opinion!
April 30th, 2015 at 2:17 pm
Guys Guys!! in 2006 only 19% of NFL snaps were taken out of a Spread formation. In 2013 it was up to 50%,and last yr it climbed to 60% per ESPN Stats and Info. At what point is coming out of a spread offense a disadvantage the way the league is changing?? Serious question, not trying to start ish.
April 30th, 2015 at 2:17 pm
Bucs source says players were informed that Winston will be their selection. Source also said that he was still in town as of this afternoon
— Gil Arcia (@GilArciaTBC) April 30, 2015
April 30th, 2015 at 2:22 pm
Buc fans should have a mole in today’s discussions to finagle info to feed fans who are tired of waiting and need some inside scoops. Oh yeah Joe, you are the closest we will get to that.
April 30th, 2015 at 2:24 pm
@Joe…..
“If the Bucs draft Mariota — or whatever team does atop the first round — he’ll be under immense pressure. The NFL is a different world than it was 36 years ago, or 10 years ago, or even seven years ago.
Jameis Winston seems much more equipped to handle what’s coming this year.”
SERIOUSLY? These two paragraphs are among the silliest I’ve seen since your Johnny Rehab infatuation last year! What first round college QB ISN’T UNDER IMMENSE PRESSURE? In fact, I’ll take it a step further….Jameis Winston is under way more pressure than Mariota! Half the country thinks Jameis Winston is a sexual predator or an immature thug! HOWS THAT FOR PRESSURE? What ever the “reality” is, Jameis will be HATED by a large percentage of football fans until he can prove them otherwise…which will take time and good behavior and great performance to win them over! One slip up, and Winston will be the the butt of every “I told you so” joke for the next 20 years! People already like Mariota….all he has to do is learn and play well and he will be fine for many years to come!
I am not a “Winston Hater”…just a realist. I won’t mind JW as our QB as long as he keeps his nose clean and stops throwing INTs! But your efforts to demean and diminish a talented kid like Mariota, (or anyone who likes him over your guy) simply because you have a hard on for Winston is now bordering on the absurd Joe!
April 30th, 2015 at 2:24 pm
About the only thing Mariota and Montana have in common are fairly quick feet and their last name has seven letters that begin with M. That said I would be proud to have Mariota as QB for the Bucs. I would just prefer Winston. Anyone with the word ‘win’ in his name has to be fated for greatness. 6 hrs to go.
April 30th, 2015 at 2:24 pm
Gator, if you are referencing Mariota, I don’t think the spread offense is the big deal. He’s in the Spread with the Read Option as well. It depends on how much you like your QB running the football. Will he be smart like Wilson or reckless like RG3???
April 30th, 2015 at 2:28 pm
Montana like. Damn how disrespectful of a statement.
April 30th, 2015 at 2:28 pm
Jeagan1999, you’ve got it all wrong IMO. It doesn’t matter what Winston does on or off the field. He is the most hated player and we will be the most hated team in sports!!! Embrace it now cause it will never end until he’s out of the league!!!!! And I’m a Winston fan!’
April 30th, 2015 at 2:30 pm
Bucs fans are about to know what it’s like to be Yankees fans
April 30th, 2015 at 2:32 pm
Anyone who is not a Bucs fan or a Noles fan will be on our a$$!!’ TRUTH!!!!
April 30th, 2015 at 2:37 pm
@ BuccaneEric
For the first few years it will probably be like that. But if he stays completely clean off the field from here on out AND helps us become winners, I have little doubt that the perception about him will change to a more favorable one. Until then it is what it is.
April 30th, 2015 at 2:38 pm
What’s silly is everything positive said on Mariota is “silliness” yet everything positive said on Winston is straight from the bible truth and gospel. Your “silly” Joe.
April 30th, 2015 at 2:38 pm
“However, Joe thinks Dungy took his Mariota love over the top yesterday”
Hmmm… What crazy person would do something like that…
April 30th, 2015 at 2:41 pm
BuccaneEric….. Respectfully, I completely disagree with your premise. It matters TREMENDOUSLY what Winston does off the field! And that’s why the pressure is so high on him. If Mariota gets a speeding ticket, will anyone care? But if Winston does…it will be all over the sports section! Mariota won’t be in the news being sued by an aleged rape victim…but Jameis will be! Everything Winston does off the field will be scrutinized! Hopefully he is a young man who has learned his lesson and gotten all the immature behavior out of his system. But if he back slides, or does something else stupid….??????
April 30th, 2015 at 2:42 pm
when Tony was in Indy they told him stay away from the offense and Peyton
April 30th, 2015 at 2:48 pm
Jeagan, I agree with you if your talking about the perspective of us Bucs fans. But the national media and the fans from other teams will always hate him from what he is “alleged to do” in college. Every fan from other teams will want him to lose. I hope that’s not the case but I guess we’ll find out
April 30th, 2015 at 2:48 pm
Last day of these bait/troll posts thankfully.
April 30th, 2015 at 2:52 pm
Jeagen you are one to talk about silliness. U just said all Marcus has to do is “learn the game and play well to be successful” oh yaaaaa I thought had to take acting classes in Los Angeles to be a good qb. And ur gnna argue that Winston isn’t more capable of handling pressure than mariota. Are you seriously kidding me. The kid said he’s going to the super bowl and got away with it. I’ll take Winston under pressure more than any 23-24 year old kid I’ve ever seen. He REEKS charisma. GOD THIS IS WHY I WAITED TIL TODAY TO RETURN. LOVE YOU JOE BUT THIS IS BAD
April 30th, 2015 at 2:56 pm
I’m sure Dungy will appreciate the insights shared wih him by Joe who is brimming with imaginary Pro Football credentials. Dungy is such a tyro compared to the gridiron brilliance displayed by Joe. Lovie is too. All Hail Joe!!!
April 30th, 2015 at 2:58 pm
You speak the truth @Broy3434
April 30th, 2015 at 2:59 pm
This is to everyone on this site: I’m a Bucs fan that lives in PA. About 80% of people that I talk to thinks Winston is guilty. From what I understand it’s not as bad a ratio in Florida. All I’m saying is get ready for the hate on Winston, especially when we start winning! I hope so cause I’m going to shove it in everyone’s face up here!!!! IT DOES NOT MATTER what Winston does from here on out to the National Media! He is the BAD GUY!! Get used to it!’n
April 30th, 2015 at 3:02 pm
Winston gets rattled and you saw that with Gruden critiquing him about his interceptions and staring down Green all the time. Mariota wasn’t rattled and was cool as a cucumber.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:05 pm
Skyline, I agree with you on Jameis, but IMO, mariota didn’t look cool, he looked scared.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:06 pm
@Broy3434…the only thing that “reeks” around here is your spelling and grammar! Maybe you should have stayed away a bit longer!
I’m sure Jamarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, Blaine Gabbert, Matt Leinert, Tim Couch, Heath Shuler, etc. all “reeked” with confidence too! “Confidence” alone doesn’t win ball games….determination, hard work and execution do!
April 30th, 2015 at 3:08 pm
Ya know what they say about pa, eric. Pitt out west, philly out east, and alabama in the middle. Thats jealousy, because they all believe joe paterno is a saint.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:08 pm
dissing Father Dungy..shame, shame…taking notes…see down the road who pans out > throwin samoan or shameus jameis
April 30th, 2015 at 3:11 pm
Winston accepts that challenge from gruden, willingly, and you know it..did he stare down his freshman season with 3 1000 yd receivers..the dumb stuff should stop if its your team drafting him..now checking down, not throwing ball away..they all could be worked on.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:12 pm
See skyline thats what you dont get, Winston was not rattled he was pissed. That is what you are missing about him that very few players have. It is that drive to win and desire to be perfect that makes him great. This guy will want to be the best player in the league and Mariota just wants to fit in. I will take the guy that wants to be the best every time.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:13 pm
#5
April 30th, 2015 at 3:13 pm
Throwing ball away meaning just give up on a play sometimes especially early in downs not to set you behind the sticks.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:16 pm
Dungy’s point is you don’t need a blabbermouth QB in order to be successful and that he sees a lot of Montana like personality traits in Mariota. I agree with this wholeheartedly.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:16 pm
I disagree ndog. He was obviously affected by it and was rattled and probably pissed because Gruden kept bringing it up. I’m not sure where you get that Mariota just wants to fit in. I don’t see him following people around doing as they do just to fit in. I will take the guy that wants to be the best every time. That is why I would take Mariota.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:16 pm
Well said, ndog..i saw a drive to prove him wrong..he was listening and taking it to heart. The adjustments jameis needs to make to be elite are minor, while mariota needs worlds of development to touch the field. Thats what people like sky refuse to acknowledge
April 30th, 2015 at 3:17 pm
Oh, the waiting! Some of these “discussions” are just mind-numbing.
First, he’s (Dungy)not comparing Mariotta to Montana as QBs he’s comparing their demeanor. Seriously!
Secondly, how many 1st round QBs were “NFL ready” and fell on their face?!
The point is that there is no gaurantee(sp) that either will ever even be more than a clipboard-holder their entire career. And therein lies the rub.
Draft a QB #1 overall and you must start him, whether he’s ready or not.
I am still of the opinion that you draft Williams #1 and get your QB in the 2nd round like Petty or Hundley. This way there is no pressure to start ’em. Because, at the end of the day, who’s blocking, hmmm?
Williams can start game 1 with this playbook: Go get the QB!
It’s time to revert back to the ‘old school’ football philosophy; #1 groom your QB for a few years and #2 defense wins championships.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:17 pm
Ndog , Winston DID look pissed!!!tval, yea they defend Paterno the way we would defend Winston. Just perspective I guess
April 30th, 2015 at 3:19 pm
@ BuccaneEric
Oh how soon we forget. I remember the SAME thing could have been said about Big Ben. There was the rape accusers, the motorcycle accident, and it just seemed like the guy could do nothing right. The media loved catching him mess up and the public perception about him was that the guy was no good. But what happened? He stayed quiet off the field + he started winning on the field, and now all of a sudden the guy is a hero. If Winston follows that same formula, things should also get better for him too.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:20 pm
The Winston Wagons are circled…….we all need to be ready to keep defending him….unfortunately….hopefully he will help us by winning and acting like a civil adult. I don’t really think that’s too much to ask.
I believe even the very strongest Winston supporters expect him to grow up.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:21 pm
He was probably pissed because 2 of those were blatant interference mia post corner the lb held rashad with armbar for 30 yds, jameis expected, understandably, he had a favorable matchup. And bc slant to rsshad he was tackled it tipped and int..give me a d.amn break with those, sky..could he have made better decision, sure. Does the interception tell the whole story, specifically with those 2, of course not.. Doesnt mean marcus can get past 1 read at the next level before running around and getting destroyed
April 30th, 2015 at 3:22 pm
Tony Dungy is many things….but silly isn’t one of them….
Certainly, his opinion can be challenged…but Mariota has the talent and potential to be a great QB….nothing really silly about it.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:24 pm
None of jameis’s turnovers compare to mariota missing guys wide open in endzone over their head 10 yds, just because a defender was at the 5 yd line in between he and his receiver..that was pitiful
April 30th, 2015 at 3:26 pm
Andrew, two things to think about. First , Winston is Black. I hate to use the race card because I think what color a person is shouldn’t mean sh**, but unfortunately it does. Second, the Steelers might be the most popular team. The Bucs don’t have that cache. if Winston does win the Bowl, maybe some haters will change but it doesn’t seem likely. Andrew, I hope your right!!!’nn
April 30th, 2015 at 3:28 pm
tval Says:
April 30th, 2015 at 3:16 pm
Well said, ndog..i saw a drive to prove him wrong..he was listening and taking it to heart. The adjustments jameis needs to make to be elite are minor, while mariota needs worlds of development to touch the field. Thats what people like sky refuse to acknowledge
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Please enlighten us on what these WORLDS of development are. Also, I need the powerball numbers for next week. I’ve always seen Mariota and Winston on the same page. Winston is a little better at anticipation, but I don’t see anything else that really separates them that much.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:28 pm
Random thought: I like how ALL of us talk about these players like we know them.
How do you know that he was “pissed”? Are you boys or something? You don’t know Jameis or Marcus or anybody else. You can’t predict anything about their careers. All of us just ape what we hear and take it as gospel.
Paterno? Really? That’s your comparison?!
April 30th, 2015 at 3:28 pm
I don’t know why this has to be repeated for the UMPTEENTH time, but I’ll take the bait.
THE SPREAD FORMATION AND THE SHOTGUN FORMATION ARE NOT ONE IN THE SAME.
If (read: when) Winston brings us the winningness that the Yankees have, I’ll gladly accept that fate.
How many people hate the Patriots?
April 30th, 2015 at 3:30 pm
@tval you mean like Winston’s butt fumble or him consistently throwing behind his receivers?
April 30th, 2015 at 3:33 pm
It’s a spread if there are 4 receivers or even if there is an option play. Just saying.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:34 pm
Not that I love Jon G. but he too says that the better QB will be the honest guy, not the crabby guy. But, hey the Bucs will be exciting throwing an NFL leading number of picks!
April 30th, 2015 at 3:35 pm
Wait… guys
Did you miss this?
Source also said that he (Winston) was still in town as of this afternoon
Winston is still in Tampa?!?!
Could he be at the Ray Jay when they announce him being Number One?
WOW
April 30th, 2015 at 3:37 pm
Maybe i miss read that
looks like Winston is in Alabama right now
Sorry
April 30th, 2015 at 3:37 pm
Celly, I wasn’t saying its a bad thing. Just something Bucs fans will have to get used to. Being hated is something ill have to get used to also!! And BucsFanMan, I’m not comparing Winston to Paterno, only that their fans will have to defend them with the same vigor
April 30th, 2015 at 3:37 pm
BuccaneEric Says:
April 30th, 2015 at 2:59 pm
This is to everyone on this site: I’m a Bucs fan that lives in PA. About 80% of people that I talk to thinks Winston is guilty. From what I understand it’s not as bad a ratio in Florida. All I’m saying is get ready for the hate on Winston, especially when we start winning! I hope so cause I’m going to shove it in everyone’s face up here!!!! IT DOES NOT MATTER what Winston does from here on out to the National Media! He is the BAD GUY!! Get used to it!’n
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Did you ask these same people in PA how they feel about Big Ben who lives in their state? Oh wait, he is white and he won two super bowls so it does not matter. I don’t see all these franchises and cities hating Big Ben, but lets continue to trash a black man throughout eternity even if the evidence does not support the accusation. Let the people in PA overlook the fact that Big Ben paid off his two accusers while Winston has said I ain’t paying s&*t because I am innocent. Hey, I guess you got to hate someone and Jameis is that guy. He will be like batman……… He’s the hero Tampa deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we’ll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he’s not our hero. He’s a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A dark knight/franchise QB!!!!
April 30th, 2015 at 3:38 pm
@Buc Neckid,
TMZ reports that Winston will be wearing his custom suit at his Alabama draft party.
“Jameis Winston is going to look like a million bucks when he makes his first million bucks … ’cause TMZ Sports has a sneak peek of Winston’s draft day suit … and it’s pretty freakin’ fly.
Winston — the projected #1 pick — is going to strut around his Alabama draft party in a custom suit made by L.A. based clothing company elevee.
We spoke to Percy Knox, elevee honcho, who tells TMZ Sports … Jameis called the plays when it came to his suit … designing the color scheme around the yellow Nike kicks he plans to rock tonight.”
April 30th, 2015 at 3:40 pm
Well said Celly! I’d take that kind of winning any day and I am a Rays fan. Basically that makes me a card-carrying Yankee ‘hater’!!!
TBBF- If Winston’s the guy, you’re right, the expectations are to act right and I’m sure he’s capable. Time will tell.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:40 pm
I like Tony Dungy. He helped the Bucs turn the corner. I love his defensive brand of football. Gruden used that defense to win a Super Bowl. Tony went on to Indianapolis and won a Super Bowl. I respect his opinion regarding Mariota and somewhere in my gut I sence he is right. There’s no finer man in the game and Joe’s implication that he is silly and over the top is silly and arrogant.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:43 pm
Nice Suit
but it should have a Red Tie
April 30th, 2015 at 3:46 pm
Fair enough BEric! That’s a tough road to travel and if we draft him there are always going to be haters regardless of what he does in the future. For instance, Big Ben “Rape-lesberger”.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:47 pm
Martinii
No one is questioning Dungy the Man… However, he’s coaching philosophies and failed offensive policies absolutely make him fair game and and a legit topic. Don’t confuse Dungy the man with Dungy the coach. He may not have any questions as a man but their are legit arguments to his coaching and personnel decisions over the years same for lovie. he might be a good guy but that does not forgive the horrendous coaching job and personnel moves lovie made.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:50 pm
Buc Neckid…NFL Network just showed Winston at his “Draft Party” in Alabama. Don’t think he’s in Tampa….unless he has a clone!
April 30th, 2015 at 3:50 pm
Tiny Tim, I guess my “awaiting moderation” post didn’t go thru! I think the fact that Big Ben is white has a lot to do with his perception. I’m not hating on Winston or Paterno or Ben or anyone. And if we are the hated team I’m cool with that!!
April 30th, 2015 at 3:53 pm
Big Ben is a rapist. I don’t know anybody besides Steeler fans that like him. I think the same can be said for that Diva up in NE.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:54 pm
Jeagan, I got that on and I didn’t see that!! How long ago was it??
April 30th, 2015 at 3:58 pm
“I think the fact that Big Ben is white has a lot to do with his perception.”
Now we are getting somewhere. THAT would be the only reason why things wouldn’t be different for Winston. And if that’s the reason, then I don’t care how much people hate him, I’ll cheer for Winston and those racists can kiss me between the back pockets.
April 30th, 2015 at 3:59 pm
tmaxcon, what you just said!
April 30th, 2015 at 4:08 pm
Collin’s agent is trying to get him removed from the draft because his girlfriend was murdered.
April 30th, 2015 at 4:12 pm
“This is to everyone on this site: I’m a Bucs fan that lives in PA. About 80% of people that I talk to thinks Winston is guilty. From what I understand it’s not as bad a ratio in Florida.”
As a society we decided at some point that a woman would never ever lie about sexual assault, even when the evidence tells us otherwise. Pointing out Kinsman might of been full of crap (in all 5 versions of her story) gets you branded a “rape apologist”.
April 30th, 2015 at 4:15 pm
It was his ex….and she was pregnant. Sad.
April 30th, 2015 at 4:17 pm
Bannor
Not to mention if she and her attorney were really out for Justice they would have never appeared in that propaganda film piece that has been discredited by all sides of the argument.
Innocent until proven guilty has been replaced with being first with the story without the need for facts or verification.
April 30th, 2015 at 4:17 pm
Baby survived though. Will be interesting if he does get pulled from the draft.
April 30th, 2015 at 4:19 pm
Skyline Crew
is it his child???
April 30th, 2015 at 4:21 pm
I’d take dungy’s word over lovie anyday
April 30th, 2015 at 4:22 pm
Buc Neckid…I think it was around 2pm.
April 30th, 2015 at 4:30 pm
4 hours to go
April 30th, 2015 at 4:35 pm
If you’re in the “We want Winston” camp, here’s a scenario to consider….
Philly gives up 3-4 draft picks to move up to #2 (with Tennessee) to get Mariota…BUT….Tampa takes Mariota at #1 then offers to trade him to Philly for the #2 pick and players DE Fletcher Cox and LB Mychal Kendricks! The Eagles would get Mariota and the Bucs would get Winston and 2 great defensive players!
Something to think about…we get a QB and fleece Philly out of 2 solid defensive starters!
April 30th, 2015 at 4:41 pm
@Jaegan
That’s assuming that Philly makes the trade before tampa makes the selection.
I can’t see that happening. I highly doubt the trade gets finalized and/or approved until the Titans are on the clock.
April 30th, 2015 at 4:47 pm
Cells….with SO many teams trying to move up to #2, I would not be surprised if we see a trade happen before the Draft starts. The Browns, Bears, and San Diego have all expressed interest in getting Mariota, so if Chip Kelly really wants him, he will have to move fast.
I’m not saying it WILL happen, but if Philly does make it happen, the Bucs may have an opportunity to cash in on their enthusiasm!
April 30th, 2015 at 4:50 pm
yeah, but then we’d (the ones that want Winston) would have to worry about [insert whichever team trades up to #2 here] just saying, “Eff it, we’ll just take Winston and be done with it.” or just trading that pick to some other team that wants Winston.
I’m sure it’ll be surprising to see which teams want Winston if they see he’s actually available.
What I’m saying is, there’s no need or reason to get cute with the #1 pick. Just take the guy you want and keep it moving.
April 30th, 2015 at 4:52 pm
Well, it’s been less than fun dissecting these two QB’s as two different groups of supporters have done their best to discredit them both for weeks now. 3 more hours, then we can focus on the exciting positives either player will bring to Tampa.
I’ve got my bourbon ready, and I’m eager to see what kind of team we can expect next year. Go Bucs!
April 30th, 2015 at 4:58 pm
I don’t see Chip Kelly trading into #2 for anyone but Mariota. No other QB knows his system better. He would trade his Grandmother for him! It only works with Philly, but if Chip Kelly goes to #2, he’d pay any ransom the Bucs demand for him….otherwise, what’s the point. Winston doesn’t fit his system.
April 30th, 2015 at 5:04 pm
It’s his kid as far as I know. NFL denied his request.
April 30th, 2015 at 5:17 pm
sad that the majority thinks Winston was guilty from the start but thought the Duke Lacrosse team was innocent from the start… funny how justice works in this country 😉
April 30th, 2015 at 5:22 pm
Why is it so hard for some people to understand comparisons? Dungy did not compare Mariota’s skill to Montana. He compared the leadership style. If I say that Glennon had more wins in his rookie season than Manning or Aikman that is not a comparison of their abilities in any way, but someone on this site will claim that I think Glennon is as good or better than those two. Please, please, please learn how to correctly interpret comparisons!!!!
April 30th, 2015 at 6:07 pm
Bannor Says:
April 30th, 2015 at 4:12 pm
“This is to everyone on this site: I’m a Bucs fan that lives in PA. About 80% of people that I talk to thinks Winston is guilty. From what I understand it’s not as bad a ratio in Florida.”
As a society we decided at some point that a woman would never ever lie about sexual assault, even when the evidence tells us otherwise. Pointing out Kinsman might of been full of crap (in all 5 versions of her story) gets you branded a “rape apologist”. I’m not exactly sure what your saying to me. Nothing in any of my posts today has anyway said that EK is lying or telling the truth. I’m just telling the people here who most likely live in Florida what the perception of Winston is outside of the state. I’m sorry if I offended you.
April 30th, 2015 at 6:29 pm
I actually kind of agree with Dungy in preferring Mariota to Winston (if I had to pick between the two), but I trust that Lovie, Licht, and the entire Bucs organization did their due diligence and will pick the guy they think will be a better fit for them. That said I think Lovie and Licht are going to regret the Winston pick well before his rookie contract is up.