A Humble Winston Emerges
April 12th, 2015
Jameis Winston, likely the next Buccaneers’ quarterback, may be one of the most brash and cocky guys to enter the NFL Draft since Deion Sanders.
Winston’s talking about Super Bowls in his rookie season and, among other things, he graded his Pro Day as “A++” to a national TV audience.
Joe loves all of Winston’s confidence and swagger. Hopefully, he can handle the inevitable tough times.
But Winston does have a humble side. And it appeared during his time on Gruden’s QB Camp on BSPN.
Chucky was grilling Winston on his 2014 interceptions, drilling through game film and forcing Winston to completely acknowledge that he forced too many balls to Florida State wide receiver Rashad Green. A big part of Chucky’s lesson was that NFL safeties are going to identify his tendencies and exploit them.
Winston’s entire demeanor changed. His body took on a humble posture. His voice tone lowered. And his face looked like a that of a ninth-grade honors math wiz who just got a C on a test and realized he had much to learn before he could ace the final exam.
Joe was glad to see Winston had that in him. It bodes well for the rough lessons of the NFL.
April 12th, 2015 at 9:34 am
This segment was gold. I think Gruden demonstrated one of the key area he needs to improve and he got it.
April 12th, 2015 at 9:37 am
I thought Gruden was a lot more complimentary to Mariota than he was Winston.
April 12th, 2015 at 9:43 am
Is Winston trying to pick a booger in picture but getting “intercepted”
by the Septum? Damn.
April 12th, 2015 at 9:55 am
I agree that unless you have just blind rage for the kid(Winston) you can’t help but like the kid. He is having fun the whole time he competes.
And supersam you might want to go back and re-watch both episodes, or watch the combined Winston Mariota show. Because if anything he was equally complimentary. I’d say his Mariota comments were more forced then genuine. Typical coach speak. He like Mariota’s athleticism but doesn’t like his personality. Imo His comments about Winston were more like, “damn! he makes want to go back and coach again.”
But then again on camera Gruden loves everyone. He only talks negative about you behind your back…Mark Alstott..that still bothers me…get the name right new coach.
April 12th, 2015 at 10:00 am
I just watched it last night. I learned nothing new about the kid that I did not already know. As I too saw him target Greene all too often when I watched him live. As if he didn’t trust his other WR’s which were all freshmen. So his targets were O’Leary and Greene primarily. Defenses picked up on that and he paid the price with the INT’s. It drove me bonkers as a Nole.
I think that can be corrected though with NFL quality WR’s everywhere he looks. I know one thing it HAS to be corrected.
I think it was more of a trust factor with Greene and O’Leary vs a freshmen WR corp.
April 12th, 2015 at 10:05 am
“He got it”? Well, that session certainly didn’t FIX it…..Whether he’s a Buc or Titan or Jet…his INT numbers will be huge in the NFL, if he’s not suspended. Btw Joe….is JW subject to suspension by Roger Goodell? And before you attack dogs start humping me, please remember that there is no standard that arrest (much less conviction) is necessary for the commissioner to take actions. Make no mistake, if any NFL player had done what JW has done, suspension would be a certainty.
April 12th, 2015 at 10:11 am
No it wouldn’t you fool. There has to be some evidence of wrong doing. As much of a tool as Goodell is, there’s no reason to suspend him.
Everyone. Listen to me. Stop the hate. Educate yourselves, or, SHUT. UP.
I’m so sick of reading your bulls(p)it about Winston.
April 12th, 2015 at 10:13 am
I really enjoyed watching the Gruden camp with Winston episode.
Most noteworthy IMO was Gruden pinning down Jameis on the baseball question. Got him to say that he was done with baseball and had played his last baseball game ever.
Winston looked more pissed than humbled to me when Gruden was showing all his interceptions – but his verbal answers were appropriate.
April 12th, 2015 at 10:17 am
I think his INT numbers will be high his rookie season ANYWAYS.
So anyone predicting that, is not some football guru or something.
Most rookie QB’s DO throw a lot of picks their first season to begin with.
(Glennon doesn’t count, he doesn’t take chances)
So before you “I told you so” guys start rolling out that line during the season. You told me nothing, because I’m throwing it out there right now.
Peyton Manning threw 28 picks in his rookie season. So don’t even bother going there with me.
April 12th, 2015 at 10:20 am
So before you “I told you so” guys start rolling out that line during the season. You told me nothing, because I’m throwing it out there right now.
Peyton Manning threw 28 picks in his rookie season. So don’t even bother going there with me during the season…like I know you’re going to try to. Bonzai can’t wait to throw “I told you so” at us.
I’m repeating the post to hopefully DRIVE the point home.
Peyton Manning threw 28 picks in his rookie season. So don’t even bother going there with me during the season.
Peyton Manning threw 28 picks in his rookie season. So don’t even bother going there with me during the season.
Peyton Manning threw 28 picks in his rookie season. So don’t even bother going there with me during the season.
Peyton Manning threw 28 picks in his rookie season. So don’t even bother going there with me during the season.
April 12th, 2015 at 10:22 am
I agree Kalind, but good luck with that. You’ll have to just give up reading the comments here on joewinstonfan.com to escape the dredges of ignorance.
April 12th, 2015 at 10:30 am
@Kalind
No it wouldn’t you fool. There has to be some evidence of wrong doing. As much of a tool as Goodell is, there’s no reason to suspend him.
You really shouldn’t be calling other posters fools! Not only is it not nice what does it make you when the very argumente you make to point out somebody elses’ “foolishness” is absolutely wrong?
Ben Rothethliesberger was suspended six games later reduced to four for exactly the same thing that happened to Fameis! A girl in Georgia ACCUSED BR of rape there were never any CHARGES!
There have been TWO WOMEN who have accused Fameis of “unwanted’ sexual advances. If Fameis had been in the NFL Goodell would hve been forced to suspended Fameis because of precedent.
AGAIN…I suupoort drafting Fameis. But you apologists need to STFU and just admit he behaved horribly and that you believe he’s learned his lesson.
It is what it is and no amount of name calling at other posters can change that.
April 12th, 2015 at 10:31 am
Mariota will be better qb –
April 12th, 2015 at 10:32 am
Go Winston can’t wait to see ya in Tampa. !!!!!
April 12th, 2015 at 10:35 am
I am SO happy that this opportunity for the No. pick has brought us closer together as a fanbase. 🙂
April 12th, 2015 at 10:36 am
(Byron Leftwich)
April 12th, 2015 at 10:36 am
These great player- like Marcus and Jameis, motivate themselves in different ways.
Both.may work.
Or one.
Or neither.
If this stuff was easy Chucky wouldnt have a tv show and Schiano would be living behind whatever rock he crawled back to.
Go bucs whoever the shiny new qb is. I hope the fans get behind him and h as ‘ve a bit of patience.
April 12th, 2015 at 10:38 am
I will make the case for trading down, to wit:
1. The premise that an NFL team must have a stellar QB is belied by the Bucs Super Bowl win. We won with defense and with a QB, in Brad Johnson, who did not make mistakes. You can win with defense or with offense (i.e., a QB).
2. Build your team around your best player. In McCoy, our best player. we have a player with Selmon-like abilities.
3. So, we have McCoy on defense, and Evans/Jackson on offense but no stellar QB, and a (very) weak offensive line.
4. A Jameis, who has the potential to be a stellar QB, will spend time on his back or running for his life without a line to protect him.
5. So, trade the number 1 for a defensive end to complement McCoy plus a later first round pick, where another defensive player will be available.
6. Build that defense Dungy-style, and go for an 8-8 or maybe 9-7 season this coming year. In 2016, work on an O-line and a new QB to go with the defense.
April 12th, 2015 at 10:40 am
Strider… and Jameis can’t wait to see you too….
April 12th, 2015 at 10:42 am
Thanks Bill. Now get in that time machine and go back to 1997.
April 12th, 2015 at 10:47 am
I, personally, am SO happy that this opportunity for the No.1 overall pick has brought us all closer together as a fanbase. 🙂
April 12th, 2015 at 10:49 am
Accidental second post. My computer is acting crazy.
April 12th, 2015 at 10:52 am
Let’s be honest here. The rape thing only happened because she gave him a blowie and he never called her back. We’ve all been there with a crazy woman or two. Some of us just get lucky and them jealous women only say we got a small dong. EK just went a few steps further.
April 12th, 2015 at 10:54 am
The only reason a football player needs humility is to be able to learn from their mistakes, so they can improve.
It was OBVIOUS during the Gruden interview that Winston has enormous humility in this aspect and is constantly analyzing his past performance and extracting ways to create an even better future performance.
With an attitude like that, there is no reason to suspect that he will be anything less than a HOFer.
April 12th, 2015 at 10:56 am
SPBF laying it down and keeping it real as usual. Keep up the good work sir.
April 12th, 2015 at 10:57 am
No second accuser has ever surfaced. There is a mention of a girl who sought counseling after a consensual sexual encounter.
Since 2012 that person has never come forward to law enforcement the university or anyone else. She did not testify in the student conduct hearing.
Where has she been for three years?
Probably wasting my time clearing that up but people keep throwing this second accuser slur out there.
April 12th, 2015 at 10:57 am
Compared to Mariota who had the personality of a wet mop, Winston is the guy I want in my huddle.
April 12th, 2015 at 11:04 am
Pickgrin Says:
April 12th, 2015 at 10:13 am
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Winston looked more pissed than humbled to me when Gruden was showing all his interceptions – but his verbal answers were appropriate.
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I agree completely.
I believe the point Coach Gruden was trying to make was twofold:
1) Greene was always his FIRST read, and he likely didn’t make it to his 2nd or 3rd reads, even tough he usually had lots of time.
2) JW5 was always staring down his 1st read, and did not “look off” the safeties;
as evidenced by Gruden’s comments about the “The Roadrunner” and all his friends.
I still believe the Bucs are about to make a Big JabooBoo.
tickrdr
April 12th, 2015 at 11:05 am
I hope we take a WR first so that we can ALL be mad. and wrong.
April 12th, 2015 at 11:08 am
Can we stop with the “there have been two women that have accused Jameis” nonsense? There was one woman with several different versions of the same event and then a report coming from said girls camp of another woman. No other woman has come forward. If true, please name her or provide any facts to support your claim. Otherwise, just be quiet.
April 12th, 2015 at 11:16 am
Lol at all the people that just want to bash MG, and Im not an MGMer per say, and say he is garbage and not listen to the good things he did on a bad team and say “3 – 13! Thats all that matters! Anything else is just creative math and excuses”
By this Rationale Tim Tebow is 9 and 7 as a starting QB with a Playoff win and numerous NFL records. Everything else is just creative math and excuses. lol
April 12th, 2015 at 11:18 am
Buc1987 Says:
April 12th, 2015 at 10:17 am
I think his INT numbers will be high his rookie season ANYWAYS.
So anyone predicting that, is not some football guru or something.
Most rookie QB’s DO throw a lot of picks their first season to begin with.
(Glennon doesn’t count, he doesn’t take chances)
So before you “I told you so” guys start rolling out that line during the season. You told me nothing, because I’m throwing it out there right now.
Peyton Manning threw 28 picks in his rookie season. So don’t even bother going there with me.
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I have asked many times before, but only a few with the courage to answer.
How many TDs vs INTs for Winston if he plays 16 games? How many in his first 13 games? First 19 games?
In his first 19 games, Peyton Manning threw for 33 TDs and 33 INTs. His team’s record was 5-14 over that span.
In his first 18 and a quarter games, Mike Glennon threw for 29 TDs and only 15 INTs. His team’s record was 5-13 over that span.
Also, MG8 rarely got the time to look for even his first read, but somehow threw a TD pass to ASJ, two TDs to Louis Murphy, and even one to Robert Herron!
Given the fact that Mike Evans and Vincent Jackson were playing, I would bet that those three guys were almost NEVER the FIRST reads for MG8, yet only ASJ had another TD from McCown over the ENTIRE season.
tickrdr
April 12th, 2015 at 11:21 am
tickrdr Says, the right stuff. Nice job. Still pushed to the sidelines is the fact that as good as any QB may be, humble or not, he is no better than the quality of the Bucs’ overcooked, unoiled, angel hair spaghetti O line, all soft and tangled.
April 12th, 2015 at 11:27 am
Just read Rick Stroud’s reporting this morning. Apparently Fameis attended Mike Alstott’s charity golf tournament.
That is GREAT news! It gives us all hope that Fameis IS growing up and ready to become the face of ther franchise.
I’ve read several different self help gurus who claime your becomme the averge of the five people you spend the most time with.
I don’t know that I agree with the number 5 but I absolutely believe in this concept.
As Fameis gets surrounded by the old Buc’s culture…Alstott, DB55, WD, Ronde this will help him “get it”.
If Fameis can leave Tallahasssee behind embrace Tampa I feel far more optmistic about his future behavior.
April 12th, 2015 at 11:35 am
tickrdr…okay you got me. Mike Glennon is the 2nd coming of Manning! Ha ha ha.
StPeteBucsFan Says:
“I feel far more optmistic about his future behavior.”
I’m sorry if I simply don’t believe you ever will no matter how much you cite you’re optimism for Winston. It doesn’t show, because of the redundancy of your posts…same old same old.
April 12th, 2015 at 11:39 am
As mentioned in another comment, I too see JW’s greatest flaw to be the tendency to stare-down his receiver and not go through his reads. NFL safeties will eat that up!
April 12th, 2015 at 11:39 am
StPeteBucsFan…I bet you’re the type of guy that takes 20 minutes to decide what kind of peanut butter to buy. Hemming and hawing. Measuring up each brand…
April 12th, 2015 at 11:44 am
Wow 87! You are really acting out of character now. I have closely watched SPBFs posts when I am here because I respect his views. To question his stance that he was not sold on Winston at first but has since come around serves not only to alienate yourself but Every person that is trying to like and accept Winston. You really need some introspection brah.
April 12th, 2015 at 11:44 am
@JBuc
Can we stop with the “there have been two women that have accused Jameis” nonsense?
Why do you stick your head in the sand? Why does the truth bother you?
Joe doesn’t permit links so I’ll simply have to encourage you to google where you will find the 2nd woman. Notice I did NOT use the word rape as part of her allegations. This includes a report from the STATE’s Asst Attorney General.
But the encounter, not previously reported, “was of such a nature that she felt violated or felt that she needed to seek some type of counseling for her emotions about the experience,” according to Georgia Cappleman, the chief assistant state attorney, who said she had spoken with the advocate but not with the woman.
The victim advocate was concerned enough about the episode to have alerted Mr. Winston’s first accuser.
Why do you guys persist in burying your heads in the sand? I honestly do not get it. And again I have supported drafting Fameis but I cannot say that the people who just can’t get past the character issues are fools nor do I feel the need to misrepresent the facts.
FACTS in this case meaning the “allegations” that have been made not what actually happened according to those “allegations”.
April 12th, 2015 at 11:46 am
I watched the Mariota segment in the gruden camp where he was actually on the field running plays and throwing the ball. His huddling was awful. He was quiet and unsure of himself, studdering, could barely call the play. Gruden even had to yell a few times, “Let me hear that huddle” or something to that effect because they were so quiet and non energetic…
Please dont let Lovie screw up this pick.
Welcome to Tampa, Jameis!
April 12th, 2015 at 11:48 am
@Buc1987
Why would you claim that? Because I tell the truth. I feel sorry for your children if you treat them like you do Fameis. They’ll have no sense of values because you will simply dismiss an trivial anything they do.
You need to look in the mirror 87 and ask yourself why the TRUTH disturbs you so much?
April 12th, 2015 at 11:56 am
If attending a Mike Alstott charity golf tournament is a sign of maturity, Simeon Rice must be a wise old pillar of the community.
April 12th, 2015 at 12:10 pm
StPeteBucsFan
Stop taking out the microscope everyday. Putting Alstott’s Golf Tourney under it and then say you feel more comfortable with him now. Every day that microscope gets taken out by you to analyze something Winston said or did. All in the guise of, I’m all in on Winston. When you’re obviously not. Tomorrow Winston might help out a blind man with an ATM machine and you’ll trot your microscope again….
Stop dipping your feet in the pool and dive in already!
You can’t though, and I don’t mind that at all. What I do mind is that you keep bringing up his past daily, yet you say you’re all in with him. Just stop lying to us already.
And another thing, don’t talk about my kids….They don’t smoke dope, legal or otherwise…and are none of your gawd damn business!
April 12th, 2015 at 12:14 pm
Now hear this. Jameis Winston has a checkered past!!!!!!!!
Come back tomorrow and StPeteBucsfan will tell you all about it…. AGAIN!
In case you forgot or are new here and know nothing about the kid…
April 12th, 2015 at 12:15 pm
Calling someone a fool is off limits but attacking someones moral fiber and bringing their children into it is fair game? All this just because you believe Jameis sexually assaulted women and want him on your team and ’87 believes he’s innocent.
April 12th, 2015 at 12:15 pm
Pretentious!
April 12th, 2015 at 12:18 pm
StPeteBucsFan: so if it’s reported then it’s the truth? No one is running from the truth. The point is if it’s true then stand up and say so. That’s how our system works. Until someone stands up and makes a substantiated claim then it’s a bunch BS meant to smear a young man.
I have daughters and I assure you if there was evidence that suggested this kid is a serial rapist I would be first in line wanting him locked up. However, based on what’s been presented thus far, including the supposed 2nd girl”‘ everything appears to be the claims of a very confused girl.
April 12th, 2015 at 12:22 pm
It’s no wonder he’s read so many self help books…..yet he’s the authority on how people should live their lives now.
OMG I wanna move to Texas now. Florida is filling up with liberals. The ones that left their states up north to get away from liberal taxes, then move to Florida vote for more of the same.
April 12th, 2015 at 12:23 pm
@Mr. Buc1987
No claim by me that MG8 is any “second coming of Peyton Manning”, nor anything of the sort.
What I have repeatedly demonstrated and posted, is that MG8’s statistical performance is comparable or better (AT THIS STAGE OF HIS CAREER) than many of his colleagues, who are thought to be so much better than him by the average fan. Is it not even remotely possible that he, too, will IMPROVE with age and more experience? A better OC? A better OL? A better TEAM?
It is like noticing that your child is walking at 9 months or reading by age three.
That does not mean he or she will be the next Jesse Owens or Alfred Einstein, however, those are pretty impressive accomplishments for one so young.
Yet, most of the Jameis Winston fans are willing to ascribe greatness (HoF, anyone), when he has not taken his first step in the NFL, let alone thrown his first TD pass.
tickrdr
April 12th, 2015 at 12:32 pm
SPBF I actually think you need to go ahead and make a stand. Every post you make about JW is 75% condemnation and ends with but I’m on board with him. While 87 was a little harsh I am sure that was his point. I think I would respect your opinion more if you just said I just can’t get past his wrong doings and therefore I don’t want him representing Tampa.
I can tell you this much, if I was bothered by his actions as much as you are I would not be on his band wagon. I am not though because without one accusation there is a chance we would not have even heard about the other small stuff.
April 12th, 2015 at 12:37 pm
BucFan4life: ditto!
April 12th, 2015 at 12:42 pm
^^^^∆∆∆ Alfred Einstein. Who is alfred Einstein? ∆∆∆^^^^ Lmao, you just lost all credibility.
April 12th, 2015 at 12:53 pm
I don’t think Winston liked saying that was his last baseball game. You could see it in his eyes. Also, glad he admitted that he stares too often. Funny how when this was brought up several times the Homers came in crying foul. Guess your love for him blinded what is really going on.
April 12th, 2015 at 1:01 pm
Ty for the vid, first time I’ve had a chance to see it. Did you post MMs too? Can you?
April 12th, 2015 at 1:04 pm
@stpetebucs
I’m not sticking my head in the sand. A lot of people shout out “second accuser” without giving the full story, as if it were some sort of a recent development.
You give the balance. People can take it for what it is worth but the truth is this person has not come forward for three years and never said Winston raped her.
To me it makes it a non-issue. But look at however you want. It just should not be misrepresented as to what it was. It was not a rape allegation. And no allegation of any sort has been made by that person.
You can bet if it was she would have been called at the last hearing. Or used as the Title IX case stands at Motion to Dismiss……very good chance that one gets thrown out of court based on the pleadings.
An actual second accusers would do wonders for their case…..so where is she?
April 12th, 2015 at 1:27 pm
spbf the hypocrite is at it again. chastises for a poster calling someone a fool, and the in the same breath tells others to stfu. lmao then he questions 87 on his child rearing. smh
and bucgatr is his lapdog now?
April 12th, 2015 at 1:39 pm
@Mr. Salty:
Laughing out loud with you at MYSELF!
BTW, everyone knows that Alfred was Albert’s little brother, who changed his name and went on to become famous in his own right ——- Alfred E. Neuman!
tickrdr
April 12th, 2015 at 1:54 pm
Correct! Rookie QBs have to calm down and not try to win the game alone.
April 12th, 2015 at 1:54 pm
I’m still all in on Mariota, but Winston was impressive. I hope he can keep the weight off because he plays so much better without the extra lbs. Gruden and him had dynamite chemistry. If it doesn’t work with Lovie then maybe they go get Gruden out of the booth for one last rendezvous.
April 12th, 2015 at 1:59 pm
@ SPBF – here is one of you recent posts:
StPeteBucsFan Says:
April 10th, 2015 at 12:18 pm
@Pickgrin
Waaaaa cry me a freaking river you co dependent apologist!!!
The media’s character assassination of Winston is what has been unprecedented.
Do you guys EVER stop to use your brains before tying. WHY would the media have any need to assassinate Fameis character? There are plenty of famous black QB’s and a Samoan they could have picked on. Why didn’t they go after Hundley the same way.
You know why? Because at minimum Fameis has TWO suspensions and one of them could have cost his team a conference title. The freaking media did NOT MAKE THAT UP!!!
“I’m on board with signing Fameis. But some of you need to get up off your knees and stop fluffing him. He MESSED UP big time. Forget the rape allegations, Forget the story from the OTHER girls who claimed she needed counseling…but don’t forget the SUSPENSIONS! Those were not ordered by the media and nobody has tried to asssassinate his character.
The actual truth is that because of his awesome athletic skills Fameis has been given far more latitude and forgiveness than any NORMAL person.
He’s a great football players. Leave it at that and hope to hell that he doesn’t embarrass Buc nation with another off field screw up.
But hey if Fameis does screw up I’m sure we can come to JBF and have the usual apologists blame it on the media…the humid air in Florida….the victim…anything or anybody but Fameis.”
After all that I cannot for the life of me figure out how you supposedly are “on board with Winston!”
April 12th, 2015 at 2:25 pm
^^^^
And that rant was based on me saying that the media’s character assassination of Jameis Winston was unprecedented. Co-dependent apologist Eh? SMH
Couldn’t agree more about the ridiculousness of SPBF saying he’s “on board” with Winston – yet continues to make long posts about what’s “wrong” with him on an almost daily basis.
April 12th, 2015 at 2:33 pm
Bucfan4life…because he’s full of shyte. That’s why. It’s so much easier to just say I’m on the fence about this guy and leave it at that, because he does have some valid points to be on the fence. He’d rather just play 2 sides of the coin on a daily basis. Never really choosing which side to be on, always leaving that window open in case things go south. He’ll be the first one here to remind us all that he tried to warn us if The Chosen One TM. takes some little kids ice cream or lunch money away. Then again if nothing happens and the kid grows up, he can say he told you so too. Always leaving that window open….
Dr Phil ain’t got nothing on me…
April 12th, 2015 at 2:35 pm
Some of you who have been so vehemently against drafting Jameis are never going to hear the end of it once Winston starts showing why he was more than worthy of being the #1 overall pick. That is if you haven’t changed your names by then which is fully expected in a # of cases.
Of course SPBF will just claim he was “on board” with Winston the whole time and show selective quotes to “prove” it. Reminds me of Joe’s claims that he wanted Bridgewater last year when he was pimping Johnny Rehab like there was no tomorrow – LOL.
April 12th, 2015 at 2:35 pm
Just woke up from a nap. Good to know nothing has changed…..since January.
@87, To go with your jersey, you should seek out a side bet of some Zubaz pants for sharts and giggles.
April 12th, 2015 at 2:37 pm
Dr. Phil – LOL
“That dog don’t hunt”
April 12th, 2015 at 3:20 pm
87… the conservatives are the con jobs, just look at Florida’s present 100% corrupted government, led by Scott and his gang of criminals who are just like Jeb.
April 12th, 2015 at 3:47 pm
This is all BS TRUE Bucs Fans see right through Winstons NFL ready crap all these luxury ticket holders that want Winston are the same ones who will be outraged calling for Lovie and Jason to be fired in 2 years because Winston will not make it in the NFL and they will be the scapegoats for drafting him if that is what happens I seriously hope that’s not what happens. We will all see soon I have a hash tag for all you Winston lover’s #WINSTONSUCKS
April 12th, 2015 at 4:09 pm
Hiring Lovie before Licht wasn’t the best move, but, this team keeps changing coaches every 2-3 years and we’ll stay where we are.
April 12th, 2015 at 4:27 pm
RG3 threw 4 interceptions his last year of college, Matt Ryan threw 18 but you know football and talent evaluation right…. I’m so glad most of you are where you belong, these past are full of emotion and mindless evaluation. Atleast you’re silly opinions will never be broadcast locally so your only laughed at here. I’d take Ryan over RG3 any day like Winston over mariota. Atleast we know where Winston can improve, sounds like you nuts are saying mariota has no weaknesses of yes no one knows because he hasn’t run any kind of real pro style offense but no lol your not guessing what mariota will be at the next level you just know because talent evaluation is how you make your money right
April 12th, 2015 at 5:06 pm
Hallelujah. Finally some sanity emerges……
On Mariota, Jawaorski says:
“The latest I’m hearing now from my sources around the league, who are pretty wired in, is that he’s going to go number one now to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,” said Jaworski.
“Mariota’s stock, remember it was quiet for a while? And there’s a reason for that. There’s a lull every year until about 30 days before the draft. Now the coaches get involved. Prior to that, it’s the scouts, it’s the roadies that are filling out the paper work. Now the coaches get involved. Now team owners get involved. Now general managers get involved. So you’re starting to see, in my opinion, Winston’s stock starting to slide a little bit and Mariota’s stock starting to go up a little bit.”
April 12th, 2015 at 6:27 pm
Do you really think Jaworski would outscoop Mortensen or Shefter?
April 12th, 2015 at 7:05 pm
Oh Erik, you continue to crack me up. Your so locked in to the Mariora train, you recuse to see whats really going on. Get this thru your skull, it’s a DONE DEAL, good or bad its Winston
April 12th, 2015 at 7:07 pm
Well i cant type thats Mariota, and refuse lol
April 12th, 2015 at 9:47 pm
Here’s a hashtag for you T-Bay #trytousepunctuation #runonsentences
April 12th, 2015 at 10:56 pm
Bucfan4life At this point I could care less about punctuation I’m just sick of reading all of this GARBAGE about Winston being a pro ready quarterback. But since your so anal about punctuation I wrote this just for YOU. #F___YOU
April 13th, 2015 at 5:27 am
Why wouldnt he stare down greene with those options? Lol!! Specifically the miami flag route to rashad, from the slot, he was held the entire beginning of route by lb who couldnt dream of running with rashad like he was. and the b.c. slant rashad was tackled..the nd toss in the air, his ugliest by far, shldve been negated by hands to face the entire play by guy getting the unexpected early advantage/pressure on tre jackson..so thats down to 15. Floridas first 2 were miraculous, diving, one- handed dream plays, really, go watch again. Down to 12..:)..ive said you cant excuse 8-10, but considering what he had to shoulder, on and off the field, 15-20 shouldnt have been mind blowing. The greater observation is his unparalleled focus amidst the most turmoil. People actually diminish him now for winning..”well, how will he handle losing?”..not well!!! Lol!! You dont want any qb, or player for that matter, that handles losing well and is content with simply being wealthy. I see it in his eyes. Some bucs fans havent the slightest clue whats about to happen..:) im already on board 🙂
April 13th, 2015 at 7:02 am
@T Bay – you should have put a period after the first punctuation and a comma after the second punctuation. Also, no need to capitalize the word “At.” Other than that you did better on your last post.
April 13th, 2015 at 7:06 am
One thing to add to that Tval! He is pro ready!
April 13th, 2015 at 9:45 am
i had to force myself to finish watching the Mariota episode of GQBC. i can’t imagine having to slog through a tough season with that guy at the helm if 20 minutes of his “highlights” from a day working with the most energetic guy in the history of football puts me to sleep like that. You could tell that more than anything else gruden loved how winston interacted with and led his guys (“that right there, that gives me goosebumps, man”) and the energy he brought to the practice field. Jameis Winston is a born QB, not just in terms of physical traits. the guy just seems wired to lead a group into and through a challenge. i loved his recognition of his shortcomings on the INTs. completely owned it, like every other criticism that’s come he was, deserved or not.
April 13th, 2015 at 9:52 am
*i am not a mariota hater. i have been eyeing MM since josh freeman began circling the drain and he was getting all the praise at Oregon just before his knee injury. i began this evaluation like most did, having watched very little of JW’s actual games and having seen more ACCUSATIONS than any NCAA player of the last decade other than manziel – (rape, point shaving, autographs all proven to not just be false but laughably so). then i began doing my homework and seeing the kid do his thing and i can’t believe we got so lucky
April 13th, 2015 at 9:58 am
I met shawn king a month before he was drafted at a Bucs golf outing and he told me he was going to be our new QB. The reason I’m saying this is because like him I think Winston already knows what’s up if it’s true he was at Alstotts event 😉 Go Bucs!
April 16th, 2015 at 1:32 pm
Joe deleted the large chunk before this because Joe can’t just publish stuff without verification or attribution, and even then, Joe only allows small excerpts. Remainder of comment is published because it appeared to be your words. –Joe
So lets be clear when we throw around terms like “innocent” when discussing Jameis Winston’s culpability. There is a HUGE difference between the terms “NOT GUILTY (which has never been used), “lack of evidence”, and “not enough evidence to charge”…
In the opinion of several experts, the TPD did it’s part to ensure Jameis was NOT charged – because if he HAD been charged – according to FSU’s policy concerning an arrest of an athlete – the leading Heisman candidate would have been immediately suspended/dismissed from the team…in the middle of a National Championship run…
AND, as if this sordid ordeal didn’t have enough “GOTCHA’s” in it…once the state attorney determines tat there is NO LONGER enough evidence to charge Winston…the poor misunderstood choirboy stands on top of a table in the student union and YELLS SEXUALLY EXPLICIT OBSCENITIES at OTHER young women that he does not know…one can only assume in celebration of learning he would not be changed with SEXUAL ASSAULT!!??
Do dismiss the ACTIONS and FACTS. Do NOT attempt to minimize or sanitize Jameis OWN actions…he brought ALL of this on himself. In the minds of some, Jameis got away with it…which means just as in the case of Jeramy Stevens, he won’t be able to keep his freak-flag hidden. Trends have a tendency to continue…and THIS TPD (Tampa Police Department) won’t be as cozy as the one he had in Tallahassee.
This guy will be as welcome in Tampa Bay as Jerramy Stevens and Ben Rothelisberger…