Watch Randy Gregory Fall
March 26th, 2015
How far will stud Nebraska DE Randy Gregory fall now that he tested positive for pot?
Unlike some fans, Joe isn’t sweating the draft.
After Tampa Bay selects Jameis Winston — they better select a quarterback No. 1 — Joe, based on information obtained at the NFL Scouting Combine and talking to many insiders — is fairly convinced the Bucs will draft a defensive end at No. 34.
This class of defensive ends is top-heavy with early selections. The Bucs could trade back into the first round to grab one, or there may be one slipping, as a player or two always seems to do in each draft.
That first domino fell last night when, per Kim Jones of the NFL Network, Nebraska defensive end Randy Gregory confessed to blowing a drug test at the combine.
Gregory officially learned of his failed test about two weeks ago, during a phone call with his father. Believing he had received a letter from the NFL inviting him to attend the draft, Gregory asked his father to open the envelope. It wasn’t a draft invitation.
“It said I failed a drug test,” he said. After absorbing that punch-in-the-gut phone conversation, Gregory knew, perhaps immediately, that his draft stock could be affected.
“Am I worried? Yeah, I’m worried,” he said. “At the same time, I’m confident. I know I’m going to be all right in the end.”
Gregory claimed the last time he smoked a left-handed cigarette was in December, and he believes the strength of the pot was so intense, that it lasted in his system until late February, which Joe finds a bit difficult to believe.
Jones also claims two NFL-types at the combine expressed concern over Gregory’s off-field issues, and this was before the results of Gregory’s pot tests were completed.
Gregory, who failed two tests for pot at Nebraska last year, also hinted that, indirectly, being around madman Bo Pelini turned him into the stoner that he is today.
“I was worse at Nebraska than I’ve ever been at any other time of my life,” said Gregory, who claims he first started lighting up after he failed to academically qualify for Purdue. “But I know how I am now. I think if teams really look at how I am now more so than the past, they’ll see I’m making strides to get better, as a person and as a player.”
Could Gregory fall far enough that the Bucs could pounce?
March 26th, 2015 at 5:12 am
Hmmmm…..
March 26th, 2015 at 5:17 am
I doubt he falls out of the first round. He may fall but given the views on Pot these days…
shoot if drafted by the Broncos and Seahawks he’s good to go!
March 26th, 2015 at 5:27 am
Somewhere, Tanard Jackson just coughed on a bong hit
March 26th, 2015 at 6:07 am
What an outstanding pair of two top picks this draft could be for the Bucs!! :-/
March 26th, 2015 at 6:17 am
I have more concerns about him than Winston. Tanard is proof that weed is a hard thing to put down.
March 26th, 2015 at 6:33 am
Uhh the Seahawks don’t have a first draft pick guy.
March 26th, 2015 at 6:38 am
I really want them to get a good young tackle prospect but if he falls to near end of first round it could be worth trading up.
March 26th, 2015 at 6:39 am
A dude with as low body fat as this athletic specimin should be able to clear traces of pot out of his system in 4 weeks to pass a pee test. The timeline Gregory is giving is bogus, unless they give them hair tests at the combine.
To me it sounds like he does have a bigger issue when looking at Gregory’s entire college career, and based on how the sticky icky has trainwrecked Josh Gordon’s career among others, this is a pattern of red flags.
I’d be more weary of drafting him late in the 1st or 2nd than Jameis with #1 overall. The best ability is availability! Can’t play when you’re suspended for substance abuse policy….
March 26th, 2015 at 7:06 am
Guy looks like Gaines Adams (RIP)!
March 26th, 2015 at 7:10 am
Great player but w can’t afford suspensions from a known weed head. Pass.
March 26th, 2015 at 7:21 am
If he was going to the NBA, no problem, NFL? He would enter the NFL and would already be IN THE PROGRAM, not sure you want that guy, Tanard Jackson was the same deal…….
Gotta be better, less risky prospects.
March 26th, 2015 at 7:27 am
The NFL is simply going to have to join the 21st Century and take pot off the banned list, the NFL has teams in 25 states, more than half those states have some sort of legal marijuana be it fully legal as in Colorado and Washington and soon to be Cali, quasi-legal/decriminalized as in NY, NJ, Fl, Cali, and a couple of more, then you have states with legal medical marijuana. Problem is the NFL moves as slow as the government when it comes to it’s constituent’s (players) wants, unless of course it benefits the NFL directly, and this would, less bad PR, more players on the field. Fully 50% of American’s want some sort of legalization, the NFL needs to get on board, and please Joe you sound like my father before he passed, “Left handed cigarette” call it what it is and stop acting like an old fuddy duddy…
March 26th, 2015 at 7:32 am
No way in hell can you smoke in December and come out positive in a drug test in March!! lol cmon man! When you get busted just come out clean tell the truth you made a mistake and move forward better to face it like a man then lie and look like a fool.. If he does fall to the latter part of the 1st wouldn’t be surprised if Licht tried to trade up to snag him i mean he is a Nebraska guy
March 26th, 2015 at 7:43 am
I seem to recall us drafting a d-lineman with pot issues back in the day. What was that dude’s name? Oh yeah, Warren Sapp. That pick turned out alright.
March 26th, 2015 at 7:43 am
The NFL really needs to rethink its policy about drug that is legal in some form in half the country. It is actually shown to help concussions and is a far better and safer pain reliever than oxycodone.
March 26th, 2015 at 7:46 am
Three failed tests AND a liar. How stupid does he think people are?
March 26th, 2015 at 7:47 am
@Luther Tarnard proved what happens when your cousin is coach and your a complete moron.
March 26th, 2015 at 7:48 am
He’ll go in the 1st.
March 26th, 2015 at 7:50 am
Hundreds of other players hoping for a shot in the league managed to put the bong away.
Just saying.
All that really matters is that it’s use is still banned by the No Fun League.
March 26th, 2015 at 7:50 am
pete i Says:
March 26th, 2015 at 5:17 am
“I doubt he falls out of the first round. He may fall but given the views on Pot these days…”
“shoot if drafted by the Broncos and Seahawks he’s good to go!”
He’s NOT good to go. Despite the laws in Seattle and Denver, it’s still against NFL rules. Just like any other in employer in Colorado and Washington that can drug test and fire you for failing.
March 26th, 2015 at 7:54 am
Hearing this reminds me of when Vontaze Burifict was coming out of Arizona State, and he blamed his coaches for sucking ass at the combine.
Randy needs to take accountability. We can just say, “Well, if I went to Purdue…”
March 26th, 2015 at 7:54 am
If I lived in Colorado and became a pot head. Then moved onto to coke or heroin from there. I would sue the state for my addiction and win. These type of lawsuits are coming down the pike for those states.
I’m not anti-pot by any means. I’m anti-legalization. Because it is a gateway drug and if that gets proved in court someday, those states are going to rethink their laws.
March 26th, 2015 at 8:04 am
Caffeine is a gateway drug to alcohol. Ask any alcoholic and they will tell you that they drank Pepsi.
March 26th, 2015 at 8:05 am
That legal rationale would put a beer-based lawsuit in the queue, too ..
March 26th, 2015 at 8:07 am
This whole gateway drug label is the most bogus lie people have been told about pot. It’s equally as bad as the entire Reefer Madness movie. Might as well sue Pepsi for getting them addicted to sugar. Might as well sue Anheuser Busch because beer is so good they went on to whiskey. It’s not their fault they beat their wife. The government allowed an angry drunk the gateway on to the hard stuff.
March 26th, 2015 at 8:10 am
Buc1987 – You can’t be that ignorant about marijuana, can you? Alcohol is more of a gateway drug than pot. Come on, the 50’s are over. Put your “Reefer Madness” 8MM away and step into reality. But there was a somewhat decent defensive lineman back in 1995 that tested positive before the draft, and his stock slipped too. We took a chance on the guy, and history was made. If pot is the only issue the guy has, then I think we can take the chance.
March 26th, 2015 at 8:14 am
Any type of alcoholic beverage is definitely a “gateway” drug.
“Gateway” drug. I just love these people who try to make up terms and use them in order to suggest they have more intellect than they actually do.
Apparently “ChessMastee” is a Libiterian who is trying to inject politics into a sports blog.
March 26th, 2015 at 8:22 am
HIGHLY unlikely that it effects his stock much/at all but I would say there’s no chance he’s there in the 30s.
March 26th, 2015 at 8:30 am
he’s a stranger to you how can you compare him to tanard Jackson? he could compare to warren sapp to because that’s how he ended up falling in the draft. the fact that he popped hot means nothing and there is a reason why legalizing this drug is being tossed around in congress. alcohol kills more people than this drug so he’s probably harmless and still looks to be in great shape
March 26th, 2015 at 8:42 am
The fact that he tested positive before being drafted and twice while at Nebraska.. He won’t be just falling out the first he might be a 4th round pick now… Josh Gordon ring a bell anyone? Teams aren’t going to make that gamble after seeing how bad the Browns have been burned(no pun intended) by a pothead
Come on people use your common sense.. If it was his 1st offense then ya he would be fine.. But 3rd time? Nah 4th round the earliest I’m saying.
March 26th, 2015 at 8:47 am
“Buc1987 Says:
March 26th, 2015 at 7:54 am
Because it is a gateway drug”
C’mon man. Cali has had medicinal for how long? Have we seen spikes in coke, heroin, etc in every state that had legalized or went medicinal?
There was a mummified body found in China that was 2700 years old, with a stash of weed. He was believed to be a shaman. It’s not “evil”, it’s not a “gateway” drug. We have stop this vilification of a plant that was perpetuated by corporations that were threatened by it, like the Hursts and Big Alcohol, etc.
March 26th, 2015 at 8:49 am
one thing for certain that cant be disputed……you said yourself your the best player in the draft, if you pop hot for drugs your a moron with no self control if even for only a few months until you sign a contract. what an idiot he like tanard Jackson who passed up a kings ransom for whatever drug he was doing
March 26th, 2015 at 8:49 am
@drdneast Its called logic, not politics.
March 26th, 2015 at 8:51 am
He will be suspended for the first four games, probably not
March 26th, 2015 at 8:52 am
This just insures that he drops back into the later part of the first round. No way someone as talented as this guys slides out of the first round. One of the playoff teams will probably snag him. The bucs would probably have to trade up into the 20’s to have a chance to snag him though in a perfect world he would slip through day 1, though if that happens the ****ing Titans will probably grab him with pick 33 if the Bucs have him targeted or they trade down with someone who wants him…..
Warren Sapp failed a drug test before his draft back in the early ’90s and he slipped to #12 past where most people thought he would go (Philly) and right into Sam Wyche’s lap. I wish the Bucs would have the same luck this year but I am guessing that someone will snag him before the Bucs can grab him. As Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun said: Seattle does not have a first round pick, however it belongs to the Saints and that might be where this guy goes knowing the Bucs luck…..
March 26th, 2015 at 8:58 am
Buc1987
Your post today just shows that you know as little about drugs and pot as you do the QB position.
March 26th, 2015 at 8:59 am
Pro Tip: If you don’t like the teams at the top of the draft and you’re the most talented player in the draft, sit down with your friends and smoke a nice fat blunt with friends before heading off to the combine.
if he’s still around by the mid teens, teams will be falling over themselves to trade up
March 26th, 2015 at 9:00 am
Mariota>Winston Says:
March 26th, 2015 at 8:58 am
“Buc1987
Your post today just shows that you know as little about drugs and pot as you do the QB position.”
Smoked it for over 20 years…..
March 26th, 2015 at 9:07 am
If it were a gateway drug, wouldn’t all the true Rastafarians in Jamaica be crack and heroin addicts by now?
I hate to harsh you 87, but, it’s just an incredibly archaic viewpoint. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs, but, eeesh.
March 26th, 2015 at 9:10 am
i’d be more concerned about the lie (“i smoked really potent weed 2 months before the combine”) than the pot, if i were concerned about anything at all. Unless they took a hair sample, marijuana is stored in body fat, of which top NFL prospects have almost zero relative to their overall weight. Beyond being hard to believe, saying you did it in December just makes it sound like you’ll do stuff when you don’t think you’ll get caught for it.
The idiocy of marijuana’s demon status just makes me shake my head, but this isn’t about drugs, it’s about conditions of employment. the NFL restricts a number of legally available substances. if my employer has a clear position on any number of “legal” things that still cannot be in my body (there are NFL players who are not permitted to drink alcohol without penalty), part of my job interview is demonstrating that i can meet that condition.
March 26th, 2015 at 9:16 am
Here are the drugs that I did after smoking pot…
Acid
Cocaine
Tried heroin once…one time. Hated it. Threw up in the toilet and I was miserable until it went away.
Ecstasy
Had a friend start out on pot…a VERY good friend. The one that got me started way back when. He then proceeded onto every other drug known to man, until he died of a heroin overdose. Before all those other drugs he did, he just smoke pot for about 2 years, then progressed into everything else.
His story can be multiplied by 10’s of 1000’s.
Now back to Buc football. No need for this debate anyways, there’s not a damn thing that will change my mind about it. In fact I was high when I voted no to legalize here in Florida.
March 26th, 2015 at 9:21 am
Yet NFL players eat Vicodin like candy and it is completely fine.
March 26th, 2015 at 9:25 am
You are using anecdotal evidence.
For every example you give, someone could give one that completely refutes it. There’s nothing scientific that shows that to be the case. Science, my man, science.
Most people try beer before pot. Doesn’t mean it’s a gateway drug either.
We could not be more diametrically opposed on this. So, be it . Moving on.
March 26th, 2015 at 9:26 am
lol what was it testing hair follicles for drugs and he couldn’t go to the combine bald? hahaha I like pick6 theory because it’s too easy to pass a drug test, hair follicle testing can get you back as far as 90 days though
March 26th, 2015 at 9:46 am
Well, if this country got their crap together on the Federal level, weed wouldn’t even be illegal. As it stands though, it is, and Gregory seems to have more off field problems than just smoking the wacky tobacky. If so, then I’m a little hesitant here. Simply because of the rules in the NFL, even for weed, there is cause for concern. His potency story of last smoking in December is complete ridiculousness. I’m sure his agent instructed him to say this but it’s a complete lie. Weed doesn’t stay in your system beyond 30 days. I don’t give a crap if it’s laced with Meth. Even with all of this I don’t think Gregory will be there at #34 and if he was I would pass. I don’t trust him as far as I can kick him. If he had said, yeah I really enjoy smoking marijuana but I realize I have to man up now and knock it off, then I would be all for it. The simple fact that he told an obvious lie worries me far more than him lighting up.
March 26th, 2015 at 10:03 am
Love and Warrick Dunn Says:
March 26th, 2015 at 9:25 am
You are using anecdotal evidence.
For every example you give, someone could give one that completely refutes it. There’s nothing scientific that shows that to be the case. Science, my man, science.
Most people try beer before pot. Doesn’t mean it’s a gateway drug either.
We could not be more diametrically opposed on this. So, be it . Moving on.
I’m in agreement with you here L & W. There’s no such thing as a starter or gateway drug. The term is utter nonsense. The only reason they are labeled that is because weed and alcohol are the easiest drugs to obtain. Alcohol, which is far more dangerous than marijuana in every scientific way, is more of a “gateway” drug than anything else if you believe in gateway drugs. The fact of the matter is either people have a head on their shoulders or they are going to move to the heavy duty drugs but they would be doing that whether or not they ever did marijuana. I digress. Back to Bucs football.
March 26th, 2015 at 10:10 am
It matters more to teams that he failed a controllable test. This means he is either really dumb, or completely lacks self-control. If the NFL instituted mandatory “fruit-loops” testing, a player’s stock should necessarily tumble if he can’t abstain from eating a bowl of the delicious cereal on the morning of the test.
March 26th, 2015 at 10:17 am
I don’t give a sh*t about pot smoking. I live in CO and the only gripe I have is the posibility that a lot of the idiot drivers here are high on edibles all day.
That said, this guy scares me from what I’ve read. Doesn’t seem like he’s learned not to screw up; and to lie about it is even worse. Not sure I can trust him and with the leagues policy he would miss significant time with any positive MJ test. He may even be a good buy but just not worth the risk at this point unless he fell to like a mid round. 2nd round pick is valuable I’d rather get a starting OT / OG / C that we don’t have to worry about missing time
March 26th, 2015 at 10:20 am
@Flmike
The NFL is simply going to have to join the 21st Century and take pot off the banned list,
Amen bro! And pretty soon some clever rep in Seattle or Denver is going to point out to the NFL that weed is not considered a PED, nor a mask for PED’s and it’s freaking LEGAL in Seattle and Denver!
87…Gateway drug? Gawd are you still in the 1950’s. Oh yeah you live in Pasco where blowing some dope is evil but packing heat in a movie theater and blowing some poor father away is not surprising.
I’m 67…have smoked weed on and off since Vietnam. It has not lead me to any other drugs other than alcohol. And you self righteous (87 if the shoe fits wear it) uniformed people believe that weed is evil but alcohol should remain legal are simply wrong.
Some people have addictive personalities. They get addicted to alcohol..,.or weed…or FOOD. Our society is morbidly obese, dying in increasing numbers from diabetes but we don’t have any problem watching peope suck down bottle after bottle of coke or pepsi.
I would draft Gregory in a heartbeat! The latest research show that drug addiction has far more to do with the persons surroundings than the actual substance being abused.
If it was the substance that did the addicting then we would have had streets full of heroin addicts after Vietnam. That was a huge fear at the time that never materialized., Once guys returned from the killing zone and got back in their normal environment they gave up the heroin.
Fortunately I never saw anybody doing heroin in my time there, but trust me weed was as common as cigarettes.
I hit the gym 4-5X a week and at 67 Im well aware that I an no longer abuse anything…food…,alcohol or weed. It’s not that hard to clean up your act.
I basically wait until vacation and Gregory would simply need to develop the same discipline. Not really that hard if his PERSONAL life is not messed up and he has loving family and friends around.
March 26th, 2015 at 10:33 am
THC can be detected in the body for up to 90 days – so those saying its impossible that he hadn’t smoked since Dec are wrong.
The caveat there is that in order for the THC to be detectable more than 30-45 days out – it indicates regular if not chronic use. So if Gregory IS telling the truth that he hadn’t smoked since December – it means he was likely a daily user and/or was too stupid to not do a better job of flushing his system. Even a chronic user can flush their system by drinking extra water every day for a few weeks.
This is an issue of self control. Cannabis is NOT addictive and it certainly is not a “gateway drug”. ’87 – I lost a lot of respect for you with those comments – especially this one:
“I was high when I voted no to legalize here in Florida.”
What an incredibly hypocritical and narrow minded thing to do/say.
March 26th, 2015 at 10:34 am
Buc1987 Says:
March 26th, 2015 at 7:54 am
I’m anti-legalization. Because it is a gateway drug and if that gets proved in court someday, those states are going to rethink their laws.
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LMFAO, get out of here. Gateway drug? Never been proven and probably never will. I’m all about legalization due to the increased revenue it brings in taxes. I hate seeing my taxes go up, but if some pothead wants to pay the taxes then by all means lower my taxes and raise em’ on pot. Colorado made a killing in Pot taxes.
March 26th, 2015 at 10:36 am
Look for the last time…I smoked it for over 20 years and still do occasionally.
There really is no debating it with me on it. Every single one of my circle of pot smoking friends turned onto some other drug after smoking pot, me included. Every…Single…One.
Yet you guys act as if it doesn’t happen. When it does. Not for everybody, but it does happen. So if it does happen for the weak minded, I’m voting no the rest of my life.
The lawsuits will come out down the road for Colorado and Washington state. I’ll bet anyone on here, that it will happen.
Hell the top dog that fought for legalizing it in Colorado already came to Florida begging lawmakers to NOT make it legal in Florida. Saying it was a mistake in Colorado. That was the top dog fighting for it at one time.
I wasted 20 years of my life and 1000’s upon 1000’s of dollars on it. It made me lazy and irresponsible for 20 years. Everything I did, pot had to be included. If I went to the beach, had to smoke pot before I went. If I went to Disney, had to smoke pot before I went. If I went to the movies and on and on.
Nothing will change my mind. So please stop provoking me.
March 26th, 2015 at 10:36 am
87 you are seriously misinformed.
March 26th, 2015 at 10:45 am
I’m not sure if you’re being serious here or sarcastic, but that is wrong information.
The NFL stated that even though these teams play in states that have relaxed marijuana laws, they are still subject to “failed” tests in the event of.
Also, you should’ve added the Redskins into your statement, whether being sarcastic or not. lol.
Just wondering: Were you also against the drafting of Warren Sapp.
Hair wouldn’t be the problem, as most athletes that have ever smoked weed would probably fail that test. I believe weed stays in your hair folicles for 3-7 years.
Now if its blood tests they’re given, then that is up to 3 months, IIRC.
As i stated above, yes you can if they’re doing blood test and not urine tests for drugs.
I think, THINK, that only applies to federal jobs and maybe state jobs. I don’t think the private sector can fire you for something that isn’t illegal in the state. If they did, I’m sure there are lawyers everywhere that would be willing to take that case on for you.
I’m not sure its been proven that it is a gateway drug, at least not in the court of law. Granted, smoking weed may open the opportunity for other drugs, I can’t say (for me and any of my friends that smoke) that it has made me want to do harder drugs. Not sure that is one you would win.
I would think, hope and PRAY that if he starts to slip that far, Tampa would trade up in front of NO and snag him before they could.
Well, that’s just you and your friends stories. You can’t speak for everyone else. Also, who’s to say that you wouldn’t have tried those drugs if you never tried pot. I know people that have done hard drugs that have never smoked weed.
Here’s the list of drugs that i’ve done since i started smoking weed in 2002:
1.
March 26th, 2015 at 10:47 am
unbelievable Says:
March 26th, 2015 at 10:39 am
“I know plenty of ppl who have smoked and moved on to other drugs, and plenty of ppl who have smoked and nothing more, or who have quit when they got tired of it.”
“Everyone’s personality and self-control is different.”
Yet you say this, which is basically what I’m trying to say. If there ARE some people out there that move onto stronger drugs then pot after smoking pot, then I’m not going to be the one to approve of it. I won’t have that on my conscience, because i voted no in the first place.
March 26th, 2015 at 10:49 am
@FlMike
When did pot become quasi-legal/decriminalized in Florida??
@StPete
Your so right. We can give a 10 year old an AR-15 but NO POT!!! I go to school at UCF and now they’re trying to give college students on campus CWP??!! That scares the hell outta me. Think of 10,000 immature Jameis Winston types walking around making bad decisions, but this time with a 9MM on their hip.
March 26th, 2015 at 10:51 am
You really want to know how twisted my thinking is on this issue….
If they were to legalize it in Florida. I’d be the first one at the store buying it…
March 26th, 2015 at 10:52 am
@87 I hear what you’re saying, I just don’t think it’s that cut and dry.
I’ve known, and actually still do know, plenty of ppl who abuse oxycontin or do coke on a regular basis, and don’t smoke pot at all. Some of them never have smoked.
I just don’t think you can make the sweeping generalization that it leads to other substances, or that anyone who does other substances did so b/c they smoked pot first. This may be true in some cases, but not all.
And if you really want to go down that path, then wouldn’t alcohol be the ultimate gateway drug? How many ppl have drank alcohol before moving on to some other drugs? I would be that number is astronomically higher.
The truth is that alcohol kills, leads to destruction, poor health, etc. Smoking weed might make you a little lazy. Can’t OD from it. Can’t get physically addicted to it. It’s much less harmful that alcohol or any other substance to be honest.
March 26th, 2015 at 10:54 am
*I would bet that number is astronomically higher.
“You really want to know how twisted my thinking is on this issue….
If they were to legalize it in Florida. I’d be the first one at the store buying it”
LOL brotha. I think legalization takes away some of the taboo and interest young people who have too to be honest.
March 26th, 2015 at 10:55 am
I would argue that leagalizing it would DECREASE hard drug use. It’s a “gateway” because people try it and see nothing is wrong with it. Then they go get more and the dealer suggests u try something else. That person most likely only wanted to smoke weed. But hey, weed is fine maybe he powers that be are lying about coke and meth too. That won’t happen in a pot shop. They will only sell weed. So no gateway.
March 26th, 2015 at 11:01 am
That is the point that I think most of us are trying to make. Just because your circle of friends are, as you said “weak minded” doesn’t mean eveyone else is.
I’m telling you from personal experience that NONE of my friends started on weed then went to harder drugs. They may have tried harder drugs and then did some weed, but not the other way around.
I’ll give a more specific story of me:
I was in college with 2 girls and a guy in my room. I didn’t really know one girl and the guy she came with. As i’m getting ready to “close the cigar”, my friend says to me, “oh, ‘Suzie’ was going to sprinkle some coke on the bud”. I stopped, mid roll, and looked her in the eye and said, “what?!”. She repeated her statement, i chuckled and said, “nah, i’m good”. Right there, i had the opportunity to move on to a harder drug, and did not. Why, because I’m not, as you stated, “weak minded”.
Another story, with this same girl and her other group of friends: We were all sitting in the living room of her friends apartment and they were preparing to load the bong. I saw them breaking up something on the table that did not loook familiar to me at all. I asked, “Whats that?”. She responded, “Its red rock”. My next question was, “what is red rock”. She said, “oh its nothing, it’ll just get you a little higher”. I looked at her at said, “that doesn’t answer my question; what is it”. She eventually said, “well, it just has some opium in it”. At that point, i promptly told her and her friends that if i was going to smoke with them, i’d like to smoke the weed first before the add that SHIT to it.
Now, maybe a “weak minded” person would’ve just followed the crowd, but that, i am not.
That red rock looked like black crack. Needless to say, that was the last time that i ever smoked, or even chilled, with her and her friends.
As far as your statement that weed made you lazy, again, that is a personal experience. There have been numerous times that I’ve smoked weed and solved a problem that i couldn’t figure out. I’ve had so many new ideas and projects come to mind after smoking. There’ve been times where i’m stuck on a web development project, racking my brain trying to figure it out. Go take a 15 min smoke break, come back to that same problem and all of a sudden, it makes sense.
Now, if you want to argue that smoking weed is a waste of money (if you’re not growing it) then I’ll give you that all day.
some of this could be due to my Jamaican/Bahamian heritage, though, so i guess i’m biased.
March 26th, 2015 at 11:05 am
87 I agree with you on Winston but not weed. Sorry to hear about your experiences but that is not typical of the norm by any means and not really scientifically backed up.
I prefer a free country where we don’t waste $$ punishing people for non-violent crimes. There are tons of incredibly succesful people who have been known to smoke marijuana; and I know tons of people in CO who smoke it and work regular jobs and have families but are just responsible with their usage in the same way someone with alchohol would be.
I don’t want to ban marijuana just because it could possibly be a reason they try other drugs. Might as well ban everything unhealthy; including alchohol; cigarettes; high cholesterol foods; etc; because they can all lead to unhealthy lifestyles that damage a person’s body and mind.
In my opinion people need to have some accountability for their own actions. Make your own informed choices on what to put into your body. I prefer the government stays out of that personal choice & freedom.
End of political rant!
March 26th, 2015 at 11:08 am
If there was one person out there that had an addictive personality and only one person. I would look out for that one person and vote no. Yet there is much more than one person.
I’m an old former Dead Head. Yes tie dyed, long hair and patchouli. Only now I’m old and bald. So I don’t need lectures about drugs.
During the 20 years I smoke it on an everyday basis, I cried to make it legal too.
I’ve changed my mind and evolved. Especially since my friend that died from heroin had 2 young kids and a wife. He died at the age of 28 years old. I still miss him and it’s been 6 years since he died.
I won’t have it on my conscience, some of you don’t mind having it on your conscience and that’s fine.
March 26th, 2015 at 11:11 am
Im not debating socially or politically on legalizing weed and really don’t care if it happens here, however it has been a glaring fact that these guys do not put down the bong once they get more money…..I mean look at Josh Gordon who has to be the biggest Dumas around….maybe if the bucs got him in the 2nd round….but how stupid can you be to fail a drug test for a job you were looking to get and you KNEW the exact date of the test….this guy is a selfish dumb person who will continue to do dumb things only know he will have millions
March 26th, 2015 at 11:23 am
Maybe we’ll get lucky and he’ll right to us at #34. Doubt it.
March 26th, 2015 at 11:33 am
“If there was one person out there that had an addictive personality and only one person. I would look out for that one person and vote no. Yet there is much more than one person.”
Here’s the thing, whether you take weed out of the equation or not, those people are still going to be addicted to stuff. I have a friend who has opiate issues. But this guy was also addicted to sugar (you would not believe the candy I saw him ingest), or you know….anything. Addictive personalities know no bounds.
You can’t protect people from themselves at the cost of liberty for everyone else. Especially when it’s something that can actually do a great deal of good for people, such as athletes who could smoke vs. killing their livers with pain pills, etc.
If weed never even existed, those people you speak of protecting will still have the same exact issues. If you ban caffeine, same result. Ban alcohol, same result. Aerosol paint cans, same result. Some people just are wired to abuse things.
Leave my weed alone (in my best Mel Gibson) FREEEEDDDOMMM!!!!!
March 26th, 2015 at 11:43 am
Pot is a pain killer? Since when?
Oh nevermind. I’m done debating it. I won’t even click the comments button for this thread anymore…
March 26th, 2015 at 11:45 am
And so Couch Fan the question then becomes is he worth spending another low round pick with that high second to trade up and get him?
I’m not worried about his use of weed. But as I pointed out the most cutting edge research on drug addiction and experiments in Europe changing laws to legalization shows that it’s not the actual substance as the person’s surroundings and living experience.
And so when Gregory said his batsite crazy coach (nobody argues with the description of the coach) made him smoke more weed he was simply stating what research shows…the environment is a much stronger indicator of drug abuse than the substance itself.
Now if due diligence shows that Gregory comes from a good family with a solid support system I don’t worry. As much as I dislike Sapp if you’ve seen that doc on him returning home you can tell he was surrounded by a loving family. Miami was a time to be a college kid and experiment. The Bucs were a time to chill and knock off the weed and Sapp did it.
But if Gregory comes from an Aquib Talib environment with family members shooting at boyfriends and all kinds of endless mayhem then I’d be concerned.
Bottom line for me is that if the Buc’s due diligence shows that it’s just weed and not a horrible upbringing then I’m ok with the pick.
March 26th, 2015 at 11:45 am
Your friend died from those drugs when they were still illegal (and I’m sorry about that). So obviously; making them legal or illegal had nothing to do with his own issues and patterns of abuse. Maybe if pot were legal he wouldn’t have had to associate with illegal drug dealers and other people that are OK with breaking the law; which likely led to other hard drugs.
Statistically; countries with more lax drug laws have less crime and less death because of drugs. Instead of putting a focus on criminlizing the behavior; we should put a focus on rehab and helping people.
So statistically; by keeping it illegal; there are MORE people likely to die from drugs. If we’re going to talk about what is on ones conscious I think that’s important to realize. I understand your argument but you are simply misinformed on the effect legalization has. All the evidence goes against your arguments
March 26th, 2015 at 11:46 am
You are making no sense at ALL ’87. You vote no to deny many many people who could benefit from medical marijuana because your friend died from a heroin overdose? Where is the connection there? Talk about backwards thinking….
The case can easily be made that you are INCREASING the chances more people will die from opiates or synthetic opiates by voting no for MMJ.
Many people that take Vicadin or oxy or whatever for pain would vastly prefer to just have legal access to cannabis. But the current messed up laws say one is a criminal for using or possessing cannabis – even though it is the safest “drug” that exists.
Thousands die every year from opiate or synthetic opiate related substances. Tens of thousands die every year from use of alcohol. Hundreds of thousands die every year from tobacco use. Yet there is not one documented case of death from cannabis use. Not one.
Your thinking on this issue is SERIOUSLY messed up. Especially considering the amount of experience with this substance you are saying you have. SMH.
March 26th, 2015 at 11:52 am
Yo get off 87 back or you’ll have to deal with me. I got your back dude, nah I’m jk you’re on your own with this one. Lol
I say pick Gregory and let him chill with Spense and we have a hynamic duo on the front lines.
#gateway
March 26th, 2015 at 11:52 am
Pot is a pain killer to a degree and safer than a lot of prescription drugs NFL players take.
March 26th, 2015 at 11:53 am
My favorite topic. Legalize cannabis! Non addictive, body and mind healing, non violent passive relaxation. A threat to big business profits. I know many who toke who have never moved on to addictive drugs, including myself. Aside from NFL penalties, I don’t care if the whole team smokes weed. Don’t bogart that joint my friend, pass it over to me.
March 26th, 2015 at 11:54 am
Well if we get Winston #1 overall and Gregory with our second pick. WE BETTER throw a butt load of money at AP. Someone is gonna need to be around to spank these kids if they get out of line!
March 26th, 2015 at 11:55 am
It does a lot of things. When I use links here they often get deleted. Google Nate Jackson, former Bronco. It’s not like Oxys, but, an Oxford study showed it didn’t reduce the pain but made it more bearable.
I’m sure you are aware of the plenitude of others who have debilitating maladies who use it. Try googling Cathy Jordan who has Lou Gehreg’s disease.
Similar to your point about protecting just one person (while I think they are unprotectable, and will go on the next available thing to use), if marijuana can HELP these people, then why not help them? To save people who can’t be saved?
March 26th, 2015 at 12:00 pm
@Lord
That’s a whole other aspect. The crime and death that is caused by it being illegal. Cartels are already being affected the Westerns states going medicinal. Weed was a pretty big chunk of their revenue stream. Imagine lessening some the death going on in Juarez simply by legalization.
March 26th, 2015 at 12:21 pm
Lord C…
Agree with your points about the FACTS of what happens when drugs are decriminalized…Europe has been a perfect test case…as will CO and WA in our country.
But if any of you really care about the stupidity of our laws here’s a story from a stupid state…Louisiana and the unintended consequence of rigid sentencing laws. This story makes me want to puke.
While marijuana is being openly bought and sold in states like Colorado and Washington, Bernard Noble is serving 13 YEARS of hard labor for the possession of two joints in Louisiana. You read that correctly: 2 joints = 13 years of hard labor.
Mr. Noble has no history of violent crime. But because of two previous convictions for possession many years ago, he has a mandated 13-year sentence. The judge even tried to shorten the sentence, but was overturned because of state law.
Bernard Noble has seven children. His kids will be without a dad, because of two joints.
March 26th, 2015 at 12:22 pm
My brotha loves da kush <3 love this guy get this beast in pewter please.
March 26th, 2015 at 1:40 pm
Oh the pot debate!!! The anti marijuana views are fed by ignorance and over indoctrination. First, marijuana is NOT addictive. Habit forming yes due to the enjoyment of getting high but it is not addictive. No withdrawal syndromes occur when a user quits. Alcohol is a far more dangerous drug especially when mixed with prescribed drugs such as Xanax which can be fatal. The laws in place that call for jail time for someone caught with under an ounce of cannabis is out dated and a waste of tax dollars. Colorado is smart to get tax money from the marijuana rather than spending it on law enforcement, court costs and detention. Oh but I guess that is too intelligent for most of our government.
March 26th, 2015 at 2:40 pm
LMAO@ Buccfan37. You got that right. Like you, I can truly enjoy some of the green goodness but have no interest in anything else. I think the numbers would surprise you 87. Not as many as you think move on to hardcore drugs. Just in this thread alone we’ve had a few of us, including myself, say that we may enjoy trees but nothing further than that. Anyway, you’re not going to change your opinion, while wrong, I still respect it.
March 26th, 2015 at 2:45 pm
Celly,
Get me some of that Jamaican amazingness. Make it happen. Do I hear a call for a road trip to Jamaica? It may make how terrible the Bucs have been palatable.
March 26th, 2015 at 2:52 pm
Yeah but to end the war on weed, those in charge would have to end the war on American’s. Get this, you lying treasonous bastards, we’re going to smoke cannabis whether you like it or not.
March 26th, 2015 at 2:53 pm
@St. Pete, thank you for pointing out perfectly how ridiculous these laws are in certain places. And, they are undeniably racist. About the same amount of whites and non-whites smoke weed, but depending on the part of the country you’re in, people of color are anywhere from 6 – 10 times more likely to be arrested and incarcerated for it.
@WS99, ‘hynamic duo’ – haha love it.
It all comes down to the Bucs doing their due diligence and making a (hopefully) correct decision on whether they think this dude can handle NFL pro-life or not. Whether it should be legal or not, the NFL forbids it so you gotta be smarter than that.
March 26th, 2015 at 4:52 pm
If Gregory some how falls to pick #34 we should take him…of course with some rules and guidelines in place…it’s simple, learn from this, put the blunts down, and get paid or keep smokin and be out of a job…if he really loves the game he’ll make the right choice…Correct me if I’m wrong but, ah didn’t Warren Sapp fail his drug test??…Imho, sometimes times you gotta take a chance on a guy…Personally, I’d love to see it happen, he could be our Simeon Rice…
March 26th, 2015 at 8:45 pm
ChessMaster Says:
“Yet NFL players eat Vicodin like candy and it is completely fine.”
How true Chessmaster, just thought I’d bump this very short but to the point nugget of info past the pot debate in this thread. So many pharmaceuticals dating back to “Mother’s Little Helper” back in the ’60s (AKA Valium to those too young to remember the Stones song) are far more addictive and harmful than THC yet have society’s blessing as big business have successfully made them mainstream and acceptable with the help of doctors who enjoy the benefits of the incentives given out by pharmaceutical companies for peddling the junk as well as the chance to flirt with the pharmaceutical rep who probably looks like a Maxim model (strange how I never see any hotties like these reps majoring in chemistry or the life sciences at USF Tampa, could the pharmaceutical companies be hiring reps w/o a science background?????)…. Pharmaceuticals are a big dirty business with a lot of blood on its hands when you see how bad pain pill addiction has become and its not just the fault of so called “pill mills” which are infamous here in Florida, a lot of “respectable” doctors in all communities peddle pills to people of all walks of life….