“Vivid And Painful Memory”
March 3rd, 2015
It’s quite clear that bad guy superstar defensive end Greg Hardy will hit free agency.
The Panthers don’t want him after his public case of girlfriend terrorizing ended in a misdemeanor conviction, which was followed by North Carolina courts tossing his case.
After the NFL forced Hardy to sit with pay for 15 games last season, it’s likely the NFL will let Hardy return in 2015. When exactly, however, is unknown. But whatever the day, he’ll come back as a very well rested, healthy 26-year-old or 27-year-old manbeast.
Tampa Bay needs a dangerous rusher off the right edge. Yesterday, former Bucs defensive tackle Booger McFarland was Twittering that the Bucs don’t need a Ndamukong Suh on their defensive line, they need a “Greg Hardy type” pass rusher.
No argument from Joe.
Hardy shouldn’t be expensive. He’ll likely sign a one-year deal somewhere so he can prove he can behave, and then break the bank next offseason.
Joe enjoyed this NBC video breakdown (below) of the edge rusher market in free agency. Former Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride talked about how Hardy, when motivated, is one of the nastiest matchups in the NFL, a “vivid and painful memory.”
Perhaps the only other accomplished pass rusher the Bucs could target is Jerry Hughes of Buffalo, if he hits the market.
Joe’s a little leery of Hughes, however, despite consecutive 10-sack seasons. He played alongside three Pro Bowlers in Buffalo on the defensive line, which might have helped his numbers a little too much.
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:03 am
Greg Hardy, Jerry Hughes, Jabal Shareed, Brandon Graham
we need one of these guys
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:07 am
I would LOVE to have Hardy on the Bucs with McCoy. What a sweet addition he would be to our DL
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:10 am
I’d take hardy over any of our DE’s. The over paid ghost is just a damn shame. If we can’t get some pressure on the quarterback it’s just going to be the same ol’ sh!t. The Tampa 2 cannot work without a disruptive front 4. If that defensive front isn’t getting to the QB he will have all day to expose the Tampa 2 defense by throwing in the middle of the field or down the sidelines which is its weakness. That’s why last year we got lit up in the passing game.
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:10 am
Joe really? Is this the lonest yard? Do you have morals? There is no denying what he did. It’s on tape but you don’t care cause he payed her off.
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:14 am
sign him!!!
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:14 am
With the fact that we are going to draft Jameis, I don’t think we will pursue Hardy. Jerry Hughes would be perfect though.
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:14 am
Brandon Graham.
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:15 am
I like Graham personally. Clean, possibly affordable, was just in the wrong scheme in Philly.
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:17 am
I like his game. He is a beast but I have heard more than one person say that this guy is completely off his rocker.
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:27 am
Nybucsfan. I would rather have the guys from the longest yard if it meant we could win. Lol. We haven’t been able to scare the opposing offense. At least if we had the guys from the longest yard they would fear being gang raped and becoming our b!tch lol
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:28 am
Exactly, he’ll be cheap for next year, GMC and Hardy on our line would help lift the performances of others on the DL and hope light a fire under MJ. Hardy might jump at the chance to play carolina twice a year too…
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:31 am
If there is anybody who is against Winston because of his character issues, yet want Hardy should not talk anymore.
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:33 am
We might as well bring in AP and Ray Rice while we are at it. Then we can really have some PR. Oh, and don’t forget to sign Dez as well.
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:37 am
Skyline one can ont wish we could bring ap, hardy, rice, and Bryant. Lol.
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:39 am
hardy and winston are not comparable. hardy owned up, paid his dues…paid her off whatever.
meanwhile winston has eluded it entirely, then boasted etc, etc…..
it’s called being a man vs. an immature child.
hell yes bring in AP. ray rice…….well when there’s video, and in that case it looked pretty damn unprovoked…that might be a little harder to overcome. and we already have his twin in martin
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:44 am
Hardy?…nah, let’s just keep Johnson because there is too much guaranteed and the egos of Lovie and lapdog take precedence over good football players
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:46 am
The morality police squad is on the prowl…watch out!
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:46 am
I’m curious why you guys want to reward domestic abusers? Sure Ray and AP got in trouble. AP still thinks he did nothing wrong. Ray admitted and probably got the worst punishment. Hardy was able to weasel out of it. The only one I would want of those three is Ray because he owned up and was punished for it. The others got a vacation from the league for a year with nothing coming of it.
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:47 am
@Robert9
Have you ever listened to yourself?? There is no way you actually believe your own logic.
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:48 am
Bryant was franchised tagged so we can’t get him.
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:51 am
Absolutely sign the man, and draft Jameis.
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:53 am
hardy and winston are not comparable. hardy owned up, paid his dues…paid her off whatever.
meanwhile winston has eluded it entirely, then boasted etc, etc…..
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Your right they arent comparable. One had a trial and the other one was never even charged. One paid his dues and the other had nothing to pay for because there was no evidence. Accept in the fantasticly stupid court of public opinion. Woooooooooooooooo Keep spewing your stupidity.
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:57 am
Screw it lets just trade MJ for AP. Send his butt back to Zimmer
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:58 am
All of you whining about character issues, go form a church group. This is football. We get 16 games a year to prove we are worthy of play-offs and a Superbowl. Unless they are doing Aaron Hernandez/Darren Sharper stuff, STFU and let the team bring in winners.
If they turn out to be a Hernandez or Sharper-type, cut them.
Give tight contracts with exit clauses.
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:58 am
Yes, Hardy did knock around his girlfriend.
She was so traumatized by the event she had to go skiing in Vail, Co., and shopping in New York City to repair the emotional damage.
I’m getting a little tired of all this outrage generated in support of a pack of cleat chasers who only hook up with these athletes in order to exploit them in some manner.
Usually it’s by getting knocked up so they can make 60k a year in child support so they don’t have to work a meaningless bar tending or secretarial job.
The only problem with that idea is as soon as the guy gets out of football, the child support payments stop and the taxpayer is on the hook to raise their bastard and failed business scheme.
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:59 am
Hell with wins, Skyline wants to win the PR Bowl…
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:03 am
I would much rather have Hardy on a prove it deal than Suh on some type of discount.
I keep seeing LUVMY posting about Thomas and Randle and Sapp and Culpepper comparisons… That isn’t the point. Randle and Sapp were the studs and Thomas and Pep were the firestarters… Suh is a stud on his own right. IF we were to sign Suh we would likely see a lot of McCoy at LDE as Clinton McDonald is a pretty good firestarter in his own right.
What we need is an edge presence… like Hardy.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:03 am
Robert 9 has no logic.
But he states he boasted about the alleged rape.
Prove it Robert 9. I have read nowhere where Winston bragged about the event. Please post or cite a credible link which supports this statement.
I will continue to press you on this matter util you do so.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:03 am
I think you’re confusing 2 situations. I never remember any video coming out. Care to enlighten us please?
I truly agree with this post.
But, the argument that is made is that, “oh, well, we’re not spending a draft pick on him so it’s different.”
…and just like that, you lost me again… lol
I didn’t know being exhonerated synonymous with ellusiveness.
I have no problem keeping Johnson, even if we bring in Hardy. The cap savings aren’t great enough for just cutting him. No need to get rid of ALL our depth. I believe we can cut Johnson after next year with no reprocusions.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:03 am
big difference between showing the pimp hand and rape…*cough*…alleged
hide yo chidren, hide yo wives, the bucs be draftin james up in here tonight
yall jameis apologist are delusional. lol
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:04 am
@ddneast,
My guess is he’s speaking about the student union incident. Using that as a way to “win” his argument.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:04 am
@Robert,
Just like there is a big difference between a settlement and an exoneration.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:05 am
Am I the only person tired of having a “nice” team that lose all the time? How many of us have made mistakes and have been given a second chance? Sign Hardy and watch our secondary improve drastically!
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:06 am
lol DD. he jumped up on a table yelling he f’ed her in her P
delusional I say.
yall apologist are just as wacky as us who don’t buy his story. yall just throw stones like lil bi*ches.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:07 am
trying to win an argument? nah.
just dont give a rats a$$ what yall think.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:09 am
So, you’re implying that he said, “I f—ed her right in the p—y” or are you making part of that up when he actually said, “f–k her right in the p—y”.
This is one instance where one simple letter, I, makes a HUGE difference.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:13 am
JSmalls Says:
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:59 am
Hell with wins, Skyline wants to win the PR Bowl…
*******
Yes, forgive me that I won’t sell my soul for a win. I don’t want a child beater nor a woman beater on my team. It doesn’t surprise me that you would want them though. You probably beat children and women as well. Probably had a fund raiser for these dirt bags.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:19 am
Hardy flung her from a bed, threw her into a bathtub and tossed her onto a futon covered with rifles. Holder said Hardy ripped a necklace he had given her off her neck, threw it into a toilet and slammed the lid on her arm when she tried to retrieve it.
Hardy dragged Holder by the hair room to room, she said, before putting his hands around her throat.
“He looked me in my eyes and he told me he was going to kill me,” Holder said. “I was so scared I wanted to die. When he loosened his grip slightly, I said, ‘Just do it. Kill me.’ ”
Later, as Holder said she was held by her former boyfriend’s personal assistant, she said Hardy made a 911 call, showed her the phone, and said, “Run, little girl. You’re going to jail.”
Judge Tin found Hardy guilty.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:20 am
If it were up to some of yous, half of our team would be a no show on Sundays because they would be to busy attending Sunday Church Services. But aye, who cares about little things like winning when the alter boys assume the position on time.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:21 am
@Skyline,
While I will say that what AP did crossed the line, I have no problem with beating kids.
The only issue i have with AP was the fact that i feel his son was too young to be beat with a switch.
And this is coming from someone that grew up in a Jamaican household and was beat with a switch before.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:23 am
@Celly,
I have no problem with disciplining a child or spanking them. What AP did was way over the line and wrong. The fact that he saw no problem with it is what gets me.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:26 am
Jerry Hughes played on a dline with Mario Williams and Marcel Dareus. Id expect poor play put of him if he were to come here
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:26 am
@Couch Fan
You do know that there are great players out there that don’t beat women nor kids, right? Or do you only think players that do that are the good ones? Suh is a violent character as well as Clay Matthews, but they don’t beat women and children.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:30 am
You do know that there are great players out there that don’t beat women nor kids, right? Or do you only think players that do that are the good ones?
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Are any of them available that would be better than hardy or Winston or Suh? No. My point exactly. Get the best players to help us win. This isnt a morality contest. If they are not in jail or not going to jail anytime soon, let em play. Tired of seeing these guys go to teams and watching them win. Time for us to win.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:32 am
I think it’ll be a situation EXACTLY like when Atlanta thought they were getting a beast in Ray Edwards.
When you play next to the Williams wall and have Jared Allen on the other side, you should rack up some sacks.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:36 am
@robert 9
LOL your character is questionable or is it your mental state? nah it’s both and that’s being kind. if you don’t like Winston say you don’t like him and anyone here can respect that lol but to say sign hardy because he owned up to his baggage? FYI he was convicted of this crime so how could he do anything except own up to it. lol that’s like forgiving A-Rod for owning up to HGH, you have issues my friend……joe you attract too many guys like Robert, it’s really disturbing
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:38 am
you sign Jerry Hughes end of story……yes he played next too pro bowlers but that’s why NFL teams get paid big money, it’s why they do the work and we sit and watch, it’s why they make the moves we can only criticize. you still have to evaluate him as a player, if he got double digit sacks joe it means he actually took advantage of the freedom playing along side probowlers gave him which is the type of player we need on the defensive line
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:49 am
robert 9 Says:
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:06 am
lol DD. he jumped up on a table yelling he f’ed her in her P
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No, Winston was quoting an incredibly stupid YouTube bit where some old guy was getting interviewed and out of the blue yelled, “Effed her right in the P!” and then it was copied and parodied, etc. Winston, by no means, claimed he raped her when he yelled that. You keep digging that hole of stupidity deeper and deeper, aren’t you?
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:53 am
No thugs for me thanks
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:53 am
I’m personally not a big fan of signing Greg Hardy. The evidence was against him; and he sounds like a pure psycopath if you lead the Skyline narrative. And the damn Judge ruled against him. I don’t see much difference between what he’s done and what Ray Rice did when it comes to morality. If anything Hardy seems crazier based on the types of things he’s said; although I’m sure Rice has said some messed up things.
LMAO @ Robert 9. At this point the dude has lost it. I feel like we already addressed how INSANE it is to think Winston literally was bragging about rape when shouting an internet meme. That he was intentionally publicly bragging about rape. INSANE!!!!!!! When we all know that the phrase was a popular internet joke. But nope in crazy Robert 9 world it makes more sense to think a guy would yell and brag about rape.
Also according to Robert 9; “owning up” / “being a man” is about actually being guilty of something and paying off a victim to avoid a harsh sentence. If you are ever accused of a crime you didn’t commit; or a crime with no evidence to support you did anything wrong; you are being an “immature child”. LOL
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:54 am
@Brandon
BMAN
The Motto- “Meet at the quarterback”
• Purple People Eaters
• Fearsome Foursome
• Steel Curtain
• New York Sack Exchange
• Gang Green
You go find the most intense rag tag bunch individuals-And you give the one mission, and one mission only …SICK”EM BOYZ
Ndamukong Suh is was of those individuals that takes a defense to another level.
Could have a rotation of
(Ends)
• 56 Jacquies Smith DE 24 6-2 260
• 92 William Gholston DE 23 6-6 281
• 91 Derrick Morgan DE 26 6-3 261
• 94 Preston Smith DE 22 6-5 271
(Tackles)
• 93 Gerald McCoy LDT 27 6-4 300
• 98 Clinton McDonald LDT 28 6-2 297
• 90 Ndamukong Suh RDT 28 6-4 305
• 97 Akeem Spence RDT 23 6-1 307
(Backers)
• 54 Lavonte David LB 25 6-1 233
• 52 Denzel Perryman LB 22 5-11 235
• 51 Danny Lansanah LB 29 6-1 255
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:55 am
Skyline. A child beater. Really? Sh!t growing up I go my ass beat for some of the bad decisions I made in my younger years. Back then they didn’t call it abuse, they called it being corrective actions. But you know what? I never did that sh!t again. Yea it left a mark. The man weighs 220lbs of pure muscle. He doesn’t know his own strength. So if you have never hit you child because your a saint then that’s fine. But for those of us like AP who had the harsh beatings it is all we know. Even one of our greatest Buccaneers of all time mr. Derrick brpoks said that he thanks his father for coming into his classroom and beating his a$$. He said it was then that I changed the direction of his life. Does anyone know what his son did to deserve the beating. NO! Everyone that criticizes others without knowing the whole story are such Hippocrates. so if you were not there SHUT YOUR MOUTHS AND ENJOY WATCHING Football from the comfort of your couch and have a beer.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:57 am
@LUVMYBUCS
Don’t be teasing with the Perryman bit. haha.
Have read stories that we might trade up for Ereck Flowers though. I think that would eliminate us from getting Perryman.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:00 pm
@TbDEPRESSEDFAN
If you were beat to the point that you had lacerations all over you legs and testicles and you needed to go to the hospital then your parents were F’d up. Don’t try to make it sound like it was ok for what he did. You don’t send your child to the hospital for messing up. I spank my kids, but I don’t send them to the hospital.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:05 pm
And if you really wanna get funky
Replace Preston Smith w/ Lorenzo Mauldin.
Now you have 2 DE/OLB prospects that can LEO in Nickel & Dime sets
-Derrick Morgan
-Lorenzo Mauldin
Once again these are not foreign concepts
-Lovie did it w/ Leonard Little
-Frazier did it w/Everson Griffen
-Monte & His Protege Pete Carroll have done it with countless DE/OLB Hybrids
You might call it…..running a beastly 4-3 w/ 3-4 personnel
Pete Carroll just won a Super Bowl running the same defense-The same defense Suh, McCoy and Clinton have all thrived in. lol
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:05 pm
@Skyline Crew
Lol, you know me brotha
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:13 pm
Zam Says:
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:53 am
No thugs for me thanks
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you cant be soft and play this game…you obviously know nothing about competitive sports and how competition brings out the aggressive fight in people…..wonder why no one calls riley cooper a thug hmmm interesting don’t you think?
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:24 pm
Sounds like the kid might have done something sexual in nature. We do not know the whole story. He could have molested a girlwe don’t know.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:32 pm
If we can get Hardy for a one year “proove it” deal then that would be ideal. The only question is will Hardy be suspended and for how long.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:34 pm
I bet if that’s the case and his some sexually molested some girls you would change your tune?
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:40 pm
@BMAN
Henry Thomas played inn (199 out of 213) games over his 14yr career.
He amassed:
• Tackles: 868
• Sacks: 93.5
• Forced Fumbles: 19
• Ints: 4
Dude wasn’t a firestarter—He was a BEAST!!!!….lol
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:51 pm
yall keep telling yourself winston is clean cause he was not arrested or whatever
and hardy was a scumbag because he was.
many, many killers out there still on the loose who have not been arrested
and many innocent men in jail who did not do the crime.
my your mentality the killers are saints, and the ones in jail are demons.
think about it. get some common sense. your thought process is flawed.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:55 pm
yall need counseling
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:59 pm
I would love to get Perryman, but like I said some reports out there that we might trade up for Flowers and then Perryman would be off the table. Perryman is a beast though and would add some much needed play to our defense.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:27 pm
Skyline Crew Says:
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:31 am
If there is anybody who is against Winston because of his character issues, yet want Hardy should not talk anymore.
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Im usually agree with you alot Sky but not this time. What Winston is accused of and what Hardy was accused of are apples and pineapples. Not to mention the fact that Winston has had numerous boneheaded incidents in two yrs.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:32 pm
Hardy, wasn’t just accused though. He was arrested and found guilty. He found a way to weasel out of it. Hardy is more guilty than Winston at this point.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:54 pm
When a dozen people tell you you are drunk Robert 9, your first impulse is to get your keys and drive off so you don’t have to hear anymore.
Standing up in student cafeteria and reciting the lyrics to a rap song doesn’t make it a confession or bragging about the incident you simple minded twit.
That is why that is all you have to offer and can cite no credible link to your claim.
From now on we should just call you Robert 9, serial liar.
Jus remember Robert 9, bearing false witness against your neighbor is also a transgression.
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:02 pm
Yea skyline if you haven’t realized that is how rich celebrities do things in the good ole US of A. Break the law, pay off the victim, and life goes on. God Bless America ( some sarcasm here )At least Hardy has done his “time.”
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:47 pm
If the NFL says Hardy is eligible to play – then bring him in for a serious talk. If you come away from that feeling OK about him – then sign him to a 1 or 2 year deal if the price is reasonable. If Hardy then proves himself to be a big asset for the Buccaneers on the field and stays out of trouble – Bucs will already have the $ to sign him to a bigger contract when they let Johnson go next year.
March 3rd, 2015 at 6:46 pm
Bucs need anybody that can get to the opposing QB. The bottom line is Sapp NEEDED Rice to finally win it all. McCoy must get legit help from the end. I also say resign Clayborn… Great motor solid contributor a la Greg Spires.
March 3rd, 2015 at 7:01 pm
Just the thought makes me drool. Jameis, vet OT, Hardy, Mcourty. I NEED A BIB!
March 3rd, 2015 at 7:03 pm
and throw a lil erik kendricks on top of that
March 4th, 2015 at 2:33 am
@Skyline, wait… Did you say Ray owned up to his actions? Bwahahaha. Sure, he did. Dude, there was a video on about 1,000 websites of Ray knocking his girl out cold. There’s no possible way to deny that. He didn’t own up to crap. He got caught.