Stop Crying About Derrick Morgan
March 13th, 2015
It’s painfully clear how desperate Bucs fans are for an edge rusher.
Why? Because Joe hears Tampa Bay faithful crying about how Derrick Morgan didn’t sign with the Bucs and stayed in Tennessee.
Forget that Morgan signed for a ridiculous windfall of about $7 million a year. Morgan has never had more than 6.5 sacks in a season during his four years as a full-time starter. He was not Greg Hardy the savior of the Bucs’ edge rushing woes.
Morgan came to Tampa for a free agent visit, and kudos to Jason Licht and Lovie Smith for not signing that guy.
It was Derrick freakin’ Morgan. Relax.
March 13th, 2015 at 10:43 am
I think it woulda been Michael Johnson all over again.
March 13th, 2015 at 10:43 am
I wish we drafted Teddy.
March 13th, 2015 at 10:44 am
Time to turn to CFL for talent, hey atleast a CFL player might dig the new unis
March 13th, 2015 at 10:46 am
L.Williams with #1 pick…we will bullrush teams to death 🙂
March 13th, 2015 at 10:46 am
One thing that makes me feel better is that they clearly have learned from their mistakes from last year and are not going to duplicate them. Here’s to hoping they don’t find new mistakes.
March 13th, 2015 at 10:48 am
You’re right Joe.
The Sucs should be fine with Jaq Smith and Larry English this year.
This team has NO DEs and NO O-line.
Can’t fix all that in the draft.
What the hell is going on?
Go Sucs!
March 13th, 2015 at 10:54 am
Agree completely Joe. Over-paying this guy would have been a mistake. You could get the same production from Clayborn when healthy for a small fraction of the cost. Now, Greg Hardy please.
March 13th, 2015 at 10:59 am
Joe you are 100% wrong!!!! I will remind you of this stupid OPINION article come December when we STILL cant get any pressure on the QB and our record is well under sub-500…..
Single most important factor of this style DEF is pressure off the edge…. I guess you have forgotten since the last time we saw it was 2005-6.
What is your next article going to be ???? I am guessing another protection piece on JW or How we didnt really need to pick up an OL in FA. You are becoming the homer simpson of Bucs reporting.
March 13th, 2015 at 11:02 am
@JOE
I know this is not an all request info site for fans. But if you’ve heard ANY rumblings I’d love to know your opinion based on your sources.
This may be simply wishful thinking on my part but here is what it looks like from the outside.
The Glazers definitely were desperate to sign Lovie. They gave him the farm and too much control. In order to get his first GM job Licht probably had to eat some stuff he didn’t really agree with.
Then we go 2-14 and the Glazers make some changes giving more power to Licht. Then again perhaps I’m selling Lovie short. Maybe he realized he needed more input from Licht.
At any rate from the “outside” it looks like a bit of a power shift or at minimum reassignment of some responsibility.
Based on last years moves which seem to have Lovie stamped all over them, and this years moves…quickly cutting our losses..not overpaying for FA’s like Morgan seem to have Licht’s name all over them.
What’s your opinion about the balance of power on personnel decisions at One Buc Joe?
March 13th, 2015 at 11:07 am
JBF, please tell me that Bowers, Cousins, Gilkey, Allen, Goldson and Koenen are no longer on the team. Time to trade a couple of our running backs for a DE and Guard. I don’t trust L&L with draft picks or FAs but fact is Bucs are worse off at Oline and DE than last year. We should not be complementing L&L for not signing a player after taking into account their track record/mistakes with the Bucs.
March 13th, 2015 at 11:07 am
Good move by not signing him. Some of those sacks came as a 3-4 linebacker. The pass rusher market is drying up at the moment but the Bucs should stay patient. There should be more players getting released in the coming weeks. Another option is trading for a guy like Cameron Jordan from the Saints. Apparently they’re willing to trade almost everyone on their roster. I would rather see them save their draft picks and draft a DE though.
March 13th, 2015 at 11:11 am
My opinion is that most of last years debacle was due to Lovie. He was the first man in and Licht probable went along to get along.
March 13th, 2015 at 11:12 am
motor, size, wingspan, hands, speed, killer instinct.
those guys are out there, they just gotta dig deeper.
we need another simeon rice type, but we need to develop them.
March 13th, 2015 at 11:14 am
Who’s crying Joe. By Cutting Johnson and offering Clayborn a ride to the airport, this D-line just got better. Don’t forget that these were the same “starters” that fooled the media in training camp that our O-line and offense was good.
not only did we get better, but Atlanta got worse. By the end of the year, they will be calling AC BJ uptop all over again
March 13th, 2015 at 11:15 am
One thing that makes me feel better is that they clearly have learned from their mistakes from last year and are not going to duplicate them. Here’s to hoping they don’t find new mistakes.
Agreed on all points Hawaiin…please L&L, no more 2-14 seasons!
March 13th, 2015 at 11:16 am
……Trent Richardson anyone?
March 13th, 2015 at 11:21 am
$7 million? WTF!
March 13th, 2015 at 11:27 am
“$7 million? WTF!”
Yeah! Great time to be an NFL player eh? Unless you mind having scrambled eggs for a brain by the time you reach 40.
I gotta admit that I might take that chance for Michael Johnson money. He can hang it up now and didn’t hit enough people hard enough to do much damage to his noggin.
March 13th, 2015 at 11:55 am
Missing out on Trent Cole is the one that hurts.
March 13th, 2015 at 11:59 am
When you do that, make sure you add Morgan’s sack totals as well. If he’s over 6.5, then you have reason to complain; if not, you can kindly have another drink of STFU.
I could be in the minority here, but I’ve never been a fan of trading a draft pick or player within the division. There’s just something about that that feels wrong to me.
Unless we’re trading away one of our current backs…. no thank you.
The man complained about being fined for being 3 lbs overweight rather than just losing 3 lbs…
Besides, he never really looked like the guy that (at least) I thought he would be coming out of Alabama. If he couldn’t do it with the Colts (who have a pretty good QB), I’m not confident he can do it with us; given the fact that teams are going to be stacking the box against [insert rookie QB here] or Glennon.
You know what…
I’m not all that disappointed. Would I have liked him? Sure. But at the end of the day, I want guys on my team that WANT to be here. Melton seems like that kind of guy. Carter does as well.
Once we start winning some more games and are drafting between the low teens and high 20s, people will want to play for us again.
Until then, there’s nothing we can do about that. And moping won’t change the situation anytime soon.
March 13th, 2015 at 12:16 pm
“And moping won’t change the situation anytime soon.”
You should cut and paste that somewhere to save Celly. We need to read that everyday on this site. We have our share of Debbie Downers.
March 13th, 2015 at 12:28 pm
joeNUTS Says:
March 13th, 2015 at 10:59 am
Joe you are 100% wrong!!!! I will remind you of this stupid OPINION article come December when we STILL cant get any pressure on the QB and our record is well under sub-500…..
When you do that, make sure you add Morgan’s sack totals as well. If he’s over 6.5, then you have reason to complain; if not, you can kindly have another drink of STFU.
Let us know when you have some football facts to support your side of the argument. 6.5 sacks on a terrible TEN defense ranked 29th in NFL. Put him next to GM and the story would have been different. He is a MUCH better pickup than HARDY- who will most likely only being playing 10 games this year due to suspension. Like I said…let me KNOW CELLY when you have something of substance. Until then, YOU STFU. Dont mess with the NUTS…they know much more than u will ever know about NFL.
March 13th, 2015 at 12:42 pm
What’s the point. People will ignore it anyway. Joe could make it the topic of an article and i guarantee people would come in the comments section and find something to complain about.
@joeNUTS
Why keep putting hope in what you think will happen.
I had that same hope, too, for Michael Johnson.
Johnson’s best season came when he lined up next to a healthy Geno Atkins. I thought his 3.5 sacks the year Atkins was hurt was the abberation. I believed that he would blossom playing next to McCoy too. Guess what? I was wrong.
funny that you would say that and then your next sentence asks for substance…The numbers don’t back up your argument.
They’ve both been in the league since 2010.
Guess who has more Combined Tackles, Total Tackles, Sacks and Forced Fumbles with less games?
I’ll give you the honor of doing that research yourself. You might be surprised at what you see.
My bad. I didn’t know you were in on the meetings with Goodell…
That’s one thing you don’t have to worry about me messing with. I mess with things that are pink.. 😉
March 13th, 2015 at 1:05 pm
Celly–
You need to do some more research on the NFL before you say anything else. Fairly common knowledge that Hardy is looking at a 4-6 game suspension. 6 is the max… Sorry your not educated about the NFL rule framework. Mr. Ira Kaufman-a respected NFL source- has stated similar things on Hardy. Go look at his twitter feed. He just stated in last hour-RT-Re Greg Hardy/potential suspension, teams would want structure of high salaries, no signing bonus. Games missed deleted from pay. <<substance!!
No NFL GM looks much at the ancient stats (stats are for losers per Rah) you mentioned on Hardy besides all that stuff was 2 YEARS ago!!! He had 4 tackles last YEAR!!! GMs go on projection.
Nice try on the redirect about Mike Johnson (irrelevant) while still offering NOTHING of substance on the situation we were originally talking about– Derrick Morgan–your no top notch lawyer —keep on trying!!
Let US all KNOW when you have anything of your own that has any substance…..that was not copied and pasted. lmao StPeteBucsfan…
March 13th, 2015 at 1:40 pm
….So who else do the Bucs have as an edge rusher? It’s more bare than ever now that Clayborn left. He was awful but at least he was a body.
March 13th, 2015 at 2:39 pm
By Michael Johnson math, those 6.5 sacks are worth $26 million.
March 13th, 2015 at 4:56 pm
Trent Cole is 32 years old and I believe only had 6.5 sacks himself.
St.peteBucFan, your blind hatred of Lovie won’t allow you to realize he doesn’t make the same mistake twice.
Unlike yourself, some people can learn from their mistakes.
March 13th, 2015 at 9:12 pm
BUCS would be better off going after Detroit’s George Johnson.