Jameis Winston Starts Tampa Grilling
March 3rd, 2015
Game on!
Team Glazer is a premier focus of Jameis Winston being in Tampa today.
Adam Schefter of ESPN pumped out that take via a Twitter report this morning.
Jameis Winston in Tampa today as part of a 3-day visit w/ Buccaneers, per sources. Visit centers around owners, said to be “Glazer-centric.”
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 3, 2015
Jameis Winston visiting Buccaneers today might be unprecedented. Potential No. 1 picks don’t visit teams with No. 1 pick this early. Ever.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 3, 2015
[UPDATE: Joe has learned Winston will only be in Tampa for one day, but this “meeting” with Bucs brass could last an extended time at a neutral site away from Tampa. The Bucs have to follow NFL rules.]
Joe likes that the Bucs are getting the intensive, face-to-face process going early with Winston. Might as well not wait around. If Team Glazer blesses Winston after this long visit, then the Bucs’ regime can continue digging into Winston’s past and further evaluating him as a football player.
If Team Glazer passes, then there’s no more wasted time.
And no, Joe doesn’t expect South Tampa Publix and Burger King’s to be on high shoplifting alert.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:39 am
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Welcome to Tampa, jameis!!!
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:45 am
Total smokescreen. All teams waste 3 days the week before Free Agency with players they have no intention of picking. Nothing to see here.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:46 am
Is Jameis appearing in a line up in Tampa. Must be checking his weight.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:48 am
jameis is in tampa first lol what a surprise…..this is where we will find out if he goes first or drops like a rock because if he wins over the glazers they’ll bring mariotta in and he’ll only solidify Winston as the guy….I think he’s to soft spoken to win over the glazers
FYI Winston don’t talk so much stick to the script lol
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:49 am
Mariota has his pro day March 12 and then he will be here for his meeting with the team.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:50 am
Given how silly they went for Raheem and his “confidence”, Winston may end up coach, GM and QB before he leaves.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:51 am
THANK GOD!
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:58 am
Sitting here at work with a smile on m face because Famous Jameis is coming to town folks.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:58 am
Nick Says:
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:45 am
Total smokescreen. All teams waste 3 days the week before Free Agency with players they have no intention of picking. Nothing to see here.
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I can’t tell if you’re trying to use sarcasm here. Your middle sentence clearly implies sarcasm… but the first and last don’t support it so much.
For the sake of thinking you’re rationale and functional in the use of sarcasm, I agree, with one week before free agency, there is very little chance a team would waste all this time and resources on a player they don’t like.
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:58 am
Let’s start crafting that playbook
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:01 pm
Welcome to Tampa Mr. Winston.
Like everyone else who actually meets the kid I am sure the Glazer boys will be highly impressed.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:02 pm
And no, Joe doesn’t expect South Tampa Publix and Burger King’s to be on high shoplifting alert.
and why would they? You’re about to lay 23 million in this immature kids hands.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:06 pm
Help us Jameis. Help us.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:06 pm
@Brandon
Still trying to get the Patent Office to trademark my Sarcasm Font. Until then, we’ll all just have to wonder.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:07 pm
I’d much rather be last.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:07 pm
PFT is reporting that it’s a one day visit, not 3
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:07 pm
Jamis will be bust of the draft
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:08 pm
Hey Nick he is meeting with the Glazers. They really don’t have anything to do with free agency besides signing the checks just saying.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:10 pm
The Jameis haters need to fight their way out the brainwashing their weak minds succumbed too from the all the hit pieces the media puked out. Read the entire transcript from his hearing, the cleat chaser’s story is bogus from page 1. Everything else is the same college crap everyone did as underclassmen. You’ve got to come to terms that he will be our pick at #1.
BTW, it was well known that FSU players got free food at the publix near campus, the problem was a new employee who did not know the deal for players.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:10 pm
I read very deeply into this. I understand that they will have a lot of players visiting (including Mariota), but the fact that he is the first one, on a THREE day visit, extremely early, the week before free agency and solely based around spending time with the Glazers (also visiting the Childrens Hospital btw), is just too much to call a smokescreen, and anyone should be able see the intent here.
Schefter also said “Jameis Winston visiting Bucs today might be unprecedented. Potential No. 1 picks dont visit teams with No. 1 pick this early. Ever.”
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:11 pm
One day, three days, whatever.
Final stage to confirm what they already know………..they are drafting Jameis.
It is important they decide for free agency and whatnot.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:12 pm
@Just draft a QB already
That is not what is being reported. Everyone from the Glazers through the QB coach will meet.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:14 pm
Raymond Jameis Stadium.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:16 pm
Haha, amusing some actually think this is a positive sign.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:16 pm
If he’s here for 3 days I would think its more than just to meet and visit with the Glazers.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:17 pm
JW will have their eyes Glazered over and they’ll have visions and night sweats over trophies and banners. Uh, Glazer tong, Rule #1-expectations lead to disappointments. Rule#2, you already know #1 backwards and forward.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:20 pm
I just have so many questions/issues around this kids character. With the documentary coming out and the possible civil litigation from his accuser, I think drafting him would be a terrible from a PR position. I think he is more Leaf then Manning.
Honestly, trade down. Stock pile picks, fill the other holes and hope for a QB next year.
I think the idea that Lovie/Jason only have 2 seasons to turn this ship around is ludicrous.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:20 pm
Welcome to Tampa Jameis. Don’t mind the haters they are just miserable minimum wage 9 to 5’s with a chip on their shoulders. lead the bucs to the promise land, young man. hopefully they will find you a real head coach that will not hold you back sooner than later.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:24 pm
I think the idea that Lovie/Jason only have 2 seasons to turn this ship around is ludicrous.
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Right because thats absolutely not what happened to the last guy who had 4 and 7 win seasons in his first 2 years. Nope not possible. Lol, I think its more ludicrous to think thats not a possibility.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:24 pm
for all of you concerned about the PR etc
Have you ever considered that maybe the Glazers want the Bucs to be Darth Vader? Have you ever seen more FSU gear around Tampa than you have over the last yr? Have you ever seen more coverage of FSU than you have over the last yr?
I’m reminded of this quote from Private Parts:
Being the bad guy sells. People either love or hate the Dallas Cowboys. People either love or hate Notre Dame football. People either love or hate the New York Yankees. Bring Jameis Winston to Tampa and people will either love or hate the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but they will no longer not have an opinion one way or another. That is good for business.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:25 pm
Joe, are the Glazers going to meet with Mariota? Or have they already met with him? If not, will they meet with him? What are your sources saying?
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:28 pm
brad
the documentary is nothing more than a liberal propaganda stunt. Several credible people in the field have already discredited much of the content. As far as a civil suit, good luck with that… That girl has changed her story 4 separate times under oath. Oh and her choice to do a documentary because the legal system already rejected her well that just to proves it was a money grab. Her and her aunt (attorney) have no case against Winston. They will get paid on the FSU suit because it’s simply cheaper to get rid of her. Truth is meaningless its all about the dollars. Do you think for a minute she is going to want to disclose how much she was paid for the documentary. Also, do you think the producers and the propaganda machine want to get exposed for paying for content in a documentary. civil suit is the least of Jameis worries. Jameis’s main worry should be if Tampa selects him, how long before he gets a NFL head coach.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:28 pm
Great opportunity for the Bucs coaches and owners to spend some time with a player who MIGHT be on our team this season. I also expect Mariota will be in Tampa for a visit sometime soon. Not quite sure how to interpret the fact that he’s here for three days? I suppose some would say that it shows that the Bucs want to acclimate Winston to the facilities and area so he can hit the ground running after the Draft…(a sign of confidence in him). While I guess it could also be said that if the Glazers and Lovie/Licht feel they need that much time to grill him on his past, and observe his behavior, that could show that they are worried about what they might find…(a sign of uncertainty). It will be interesting to see what comes out of this trip over the next few days!
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:30 pm
News flash: Smoke season is not over.
This wouldn’t appear as a complete smokescreen, as it is definitely a good thing to get 1-on-1 time with a potential starting QB. This isn’t the Bucs throwing in their draft card, I’d only be surprised if they DIDN’T do the same with Mariota.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:31 pm
Bucs are now saying that it’s only an afternoon visit
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:31 pm
Idc that he’s here, he’ll be gone for good in 3 days. Thanks for visiting
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:31 pm
Barry Bryan Joel all agree
You only need to hope that Mariota survives his pro day injury free. You know those scripted drills are brutal… mariota is not going to tampa. Buy your jameis jersey early and rejoice barry.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:32 pm
Joe….PFT now saying it’s just a1 day visit…not 3.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:33 pm
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Being the bad guy sells. People either love or hate the Dallas Cowboys. People either love or hate Notre Dame football. People either love or hate the New York Yankees. Bring Jameis Winston to Tampa and people will either love or hate the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but they will no longer not have an opinion one way or another. That is good for business.
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No one has ever accused the Cowboys, Irish, or Yankees of being a sexual predator in a nationally released documentary. Also, I don’t think that will fly the way you think it will in a post Ray Rice NFL.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:33 pm
Probably just checking out the lunchtime Crab Legs buffett at the Mons Venus
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:33 pm
Lol @Tampon or Tmaxcon whatever it is. I’m in the 6 figure club and I dislike Winston too.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:33 pm
@Barry Bryan Joel all agree Says
Get those Non-Jameis Questions out of here
this is a Johnny Football… err
Jameis Lovers ONLY website.
Real media is found elsewhere
This place is starting to remind me of CNN when “W” was President
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:33 pm
they grill crablegs now?
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:34 pm
Lol @BP52
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:35 pm
This is just one step closer to the day fans finally come to the realization that Winston is the pick. That day will come way before the draft. It won’t be a mystery right up until draft day as some might think.
This is just one more step.
Sure Mariota will be brought in for shytes and giggles…but I think and have thought the pick has already been made before the last game of the season which they tanked.
Like Joe says..they won the chase for Jameis. That’s what they were trying to do.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:35 pm
It seems obvious that it is going to be Winston. I hope that the fans that hate him so much right now will learn to get over it. Because it that train is coming.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:35 pm
Jacko101 just proves that wealth does not equal brains.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:36 pm
Relax guys, there will be lots of players coming in for visits
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:37 pm
Joe can you confirm or deny this statement? Inside OBP majority favor Mariota, including Bryan and Joel?
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:38 pm
Yep, the same Adam Schefter that said last week that the Bucs are leaning towards Mariota
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:40 pm
kaput Says:
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:35 pm
“It seems obvious that it is going to be Winston”
Dude it’s been obvious to me for about a week now…that’s why I don’t post as much anymore. I think the pick is inevitable.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:42 pm
A Tweet just came in from the Combine – In the 40 yard dash, Jameis Winston is now approaching the finish line
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:43 pm
Marcus Mariota, seen as the No. 2 quarterback available in the draft, is expected to visit with the Bucs sometime in the next month, Schefter reports.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:43 pm
Great post @creamsicklebannannahammhock
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:44 pm
gotta be real about it. im a Winston fan but him coming here so early when these things usually happen right before the draft or after pro day means they probably think he sounds dumb and want to gauge his intelligence for themselves to determine if he needs to be taken off the board or if he could be the face of the franchise….it also probably means that licht and lovie are ready to sign him
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:48 pm
Don’t forget we also brought in Johhny Rehab for a visit last year as well as Teddy Bridgewater, its all part of the process. Im sure before its all over well have brought in over 20 guys for visits, Mariota is gonna be our pick.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:48 pm
TOTAL SMOKESCREEN NICK YOU SHOULD BE SHOT. I CAN NO LONGER HANDLE READING THIS. AN UNPRECEDENTED VISIT FROM THE ONLY TEAM THAT DOESNT NEED TO BLOW SMOKE. YOU PEOPLE THAT DONT THINK WINSTON IS A BUC ARE ABSOLUTE FOOLS
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:50 pm
bucs4lyfe Says:
“it also probably means that licht and lovie are ready to sign him”
Ha ha ha….that thought already crossed my mind. I don’t think they will sign him this early, but I do think he will be signed before the draft. Thus allowing everyone to get comfortable with taking him..before the draft. They are going to have to let everyone in the Bay area know in advance so that some of these fools can digest it first.
That’s my opinion as to how this is going to play out.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:51 pm
In all seriousness, if I were the Glazers I would want to meet with Winston, look him square in the eye and say ” Mr Winston, you are one of the players that we are seriously considering drafting at #1. However, if we do, it will be written in your contract that while a member of our organization, you will not be allowed to play organized baseball of any type. If you will agree with that condition we will keep you in high consideration. If you can’t or won’t we will remove you from consideration. So what will it be?”
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:54 pm
OMG…you people and the baseball crap HAVE to stop worrying about it. He’s not going to bolt to baseball.
This baseball stuff is hilarious Joe…way to get some of these people riled up.
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:55 pm
@Broy34
You’re good people. Let’s be friends. xoxo
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:00 pm
@Tmaxcon I have no brains because I don’t want Winston? Lol I’m not a TV fan I’m an active Club member fan who goes to every home game. I’m tired of us getting screwed with lazy free agents, missing on draft picks, and getting player troubled pasts. Mariota is safe and a good baller, he won’t get fat and lazy and he won’t cause trouble. I don’t get why people can’t understand that.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:02 pm
All I’m really saying is this: There is a list of successful NFL QB’s as long as my arm who came in with serious character concerns. I won’t questions anyone’s intelligence and list them. But I can only think of 2 who do.
Eli Manning came in as a self absorbed prick
Big Ben had that thing in a club
Maybe I’m missing something, but it seems to me players who have pre NFL, mostly only find more problems in the NFL.
There are some exceptions like Ray Lewis, but I think by and large that would hold true.
Think of that what you will, but I think I personally would trade the pick to the Browns for their 2 1’s this year and draft a couple of quality starters. This “we must win now” mantra that we have right now is a symptom of a poorly run franchise and has to change if we are going to become a long term success as a team.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:03 pm
I’m guessing the 3 day part comes from him arriving Monday and leaving Wednesday because he has an all day meeting today.
ESPN Schefter – “In what might be an unprecedented visit for how early it is occurring, quarterback Jameis Winston is in Tampa, Florida, on Tuesday for an all-day meeting with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the team confirmed.”
“Winston, the former Florida State star, arrived in Tampa on Monday, and will depart Wednesday, a source said.”
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:05 pm
I feel that my love for British comedy has failed me in this arena. Must re-calibrate to better communicate with the likes of Broy34.
**re-calibrating**
Da Bucs are da best teeamm that ever were!!!!111!!!!! NE buddy dat thanks Jamis is not numba 1 is the dooshiest doosch that ever dooched!!!!!
@Broy34.. better?
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:06 pm
Mariota is safe and a good baller, he won’t get fat and lazy and he won’t cause trouble
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And you know this how?… do you know him personally? Can you read the future? Or are you just talking out your @ss?…
And there is nothing safe about drafting a guy with major question marks about his arm and whether or not he can even transition his game to pros, not to mention coming out of a system thats produced 0 quality QBs in the league.
Now I know that some of you are going to come back with, “Oh how many QBs has Jimbo’s system produced?” That quite simply is not the point. The point is Mariota is no safer than Winston. In fact, Winston is the more safer of the two.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:07 pm
Mr. 87
I’m sorry that you can’t see that Baseball is a huge issue, mainly because it’s a QB that’s a power pitcher. If it was, say, a WR that played in the outfield then it wouldn’t be a big deal at all. But power pitchers suffer arm, elbow and shoulder injuries, some that require surgery, that sideline them for a long time. Just ask Matt Moore and Jake McGee
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:07 pm
@Jacko101
your like a woman scorned who cant see the good man staring her right in the face because she got hurt bad in a past relationship lol don’t focus on mark Dominick’s rule over the team or even last years free agent, that was 2014 this is a new league year coming meaning theres another chance to have get impact players and improve this team. for all you negative fans still crying about the last decade please find another team if your going to act like this team will never improve…..we were the first team in this division to win a superbowl and it can happen again, learn how to reset in life this team doesn’t need to start over just reset
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:11 pm
I was going to refrain from posting until i read this.
I’m so tired of the, “Wait till next year” crowd.
So, what happens when we win just enough games next year to not draft a top QB and both Winston and Mariota are leading their teams to wins?
What happens if there are no QB’s next year that are on par with Winston/Mariota?
At some point, you need to grab your balls and just take a chance. The crap-shoot that is the draft doesn’t get any better by waiting a year.
I want Winston (but would be “OK” if they took Mariota) but one way or the other, we NEED to draft a QB with our #1 pick. Point. Blank. Period.
My sentiments exactly.
And the fact that the people that DON’T want Winston only bash his character vs his actual playing ability.
It’ll be fun to log on to JBF and see all the comments at about 8:10pm on April, 30.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:11 pm
News flash folks – neither Evans nor ASJ visited the Bucs last year. At best it’s just due diligence. If they spend three days with him and still draft him I will be thrilled. I just don’t want the Bucs to blow the pick. Winston, Mariota, or trade down and get good value for the pick and I’m ok. Why do I feel like they will trade the pick for a bag of donuts?
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:13 pm
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Now I know that some of you are going to come back with, “Oh how many QBs has Jimbo’s system produced?” That quite simply is not the point. The point is Mariota is no safer than Winston. In fact, Winston is the more safer of the two.
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If you put a gun to my head and said draft a QB, I would draft Mariota. He showed up to the combine humble and eager, brought his own tape from his post season workouts and ask for criticism during his combine interviews, and took notes.
Character and hard work will almost always be more successful then talent.
That said, I stand by my trade down stance.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:14 pm
@brad
There are a lot more QBs than Eli/Big Ben with character concerns that had success still.
Brett Favre was known for being a bit immature and still was known for that when he retired
Michael Vick killed dogs and came back and had by far his beast season of his career with the Eagles
Peyton Manning had a sexual complaint filed against him for putting his nuts and bare butt on a trainers face in college
Cam Newton had a lot of character concerns coming out of Auburn (stealing a laptop/etc) and has handled himself fine and been a good community guy.
That’s just quickly off the top of my head. If we went digging we could find more i’m sure
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:14 pm
Couch
Did you honestly and accurately just say that Winston is a safer pick that Mariota? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Dude, I don’t know what you are smoking or drinking, but the rest of us want some
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:18 pm
If you put a gun to my head and said draft a QB, I would draft Mariota.
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Thats great and you are entitled to your opinion. I however would choose the guy who has already shown to be able to play and win in the style we are looking for. I’ll take minimal character issues over major on field question marks anyday.
Tebow had great character and great work ethic. Doesn’t mean you can play.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:18 pm
You know that when the Glazers meet and look at Winston, they will be having Josh Freeman flashbacks. Only Winston will be more of a disaster though
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:19 pm
Did you honestly and accurately just say that Winston is a safer pick that Mariota?
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Yes I did. Only thing Mariota is more safe at is Sunday church meetings. Nothing safer about Mariota on the field. Which is what we are actually talking about. As you said “LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL”
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:21 pm
Minimal Character Issues? LOL Oh Please
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:21 pm
@Lord Cornelius
7 MVP’s and 2 rings on that list. I grant you Farve and Manning. Vick was a bust and we are still waiting on Cam.
However, Farve only found success with his SECOND team (traded from Falcons to Packers). Not what I would want out of my #1 pick.
Payton was the #2 behind Ryan Leaf who was supposed to be a transcendent talent and natural QB… we see how that worked out.
I grant you your point, but I stand by mine. I still think that you would find a statistical advantage to drafting high character players. But I have a VM Ware cluster that has to be in production by COB so…. ain’t nobody got time fo that
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:25 pm
Hopefully they sign him to a contract and give a playbook today before he leaves the building.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:25 pm
You know that when the Glazers meet and look at Winston, they will be having Josh Freeman flashbacks. Only Winston will be more of a disaster though
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And this shows just how stupid you are. Thank you for proving it to everybody.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:31 pm
@Couch Fan
Don’t mention that guy…. THEY will hear you.
He never had NFL arm talent, but if he would have made a change to H back or TE, he would be playing right now. Probably for the Pats and waiting on his ring to come in.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:33 pm
Couch
You may be as blinded and misguided by your misplaced Hero Worship as Lurker, Luther, Eric, Lord Corny, Tmoron, Lion, Hand Cream and a few other poor, pathetic souls on here.
Please try to look at this objectively and think about what is overall best for the Bucs in the long and short term. Beleive me, it isn’t a Thief, Shoplifter, Vandal or Accused and Alleged Rapist. Having Hero Worship about somebody like that says a whole lot about you
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:33 pm
A formality for the final act of due process.
They want this squared away so they can get guys in free agency who fit the new OC’s offense with Jameis Winston at QB.
Makes perfect sense.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:37 pm
Jaboo? More like Taboo
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:39 pm
C’mon Man! Says:
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:11 pm
News flash folks – neither Evans nor ASJ visited the Bucs last year. At best it’s just due diligence
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neither one of these guys are quarterbacks or will ever be the face of a franchise so theres no need, you look at the tape, get a feel for the character then you draft…..the quarterback position REQUIRES much more detailed evaluation
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:44 pm
When one major Winston suck up and Hero Worshipper is repeatedly posting on here under 11 different screen names at the same time and having conversations with himself the debate and conversation gets a little stale and cloggy and dragged down to a middle school level. I guess he thinks it makes his Winston army look bigger, but it just makes him look stupid and ignorant
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:44 pm
My theory is that they brought him in early because multiple Bucs players will be in town for the charity event. Give a chance for them to meet.
I’m not a hater. But I refuse to say his pattern of behavior should not be considered.
And I really doubt that this means anything. Teams have player visits all the time without intending to draft them. They “eye” potential competition.
The Bucs may well draft him, but maybe not.
Maybe they figured to have him visit before he ends up in jail. Hehe
Actually, they may want to talk to him about his upcoming pro day. Maybe they have requests for him to work on.
Really though, it may not be a good thing. Mariota will now get the last impression.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:47 pm
@couchfan stick to your couch. @Bucs4lyfe you sound like you’re use to losing I’m not. I don’t agree with is drafting Winston oh well. There is lots of talent in this draft and I believe this is the most important one, not just because we have the 1st pick but because we won’t have to cap to plug and play in free agency like previous year.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:48 pm
And btw, they have no need to mislead anyone. No one can jump ahead of them.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:48 pm
@ brad
Point taken. Manning went above Leaf though.
There are all sorts of correlations and statistical examples we could go through but none are really conclusive; and in the end it comes down to the individual. I am more of the mindframe that Winston is a hard working / high IQ kind of guy who is socially immature but cognizant of that immaturity and working on it. I may be wrong but that’s the impression I’ve gotten based on everything I’ve read from anyone whose known him or been around him.
Heisman winners typically are not good in the NFL; but that doesn’t mean much to me. And just as there may be statistical correlations to character concerns and success; there are the same correlations with spread option QBs and success; etc.
I can live with Mariota as the pick and will fully support him if we take him. But i prefer we take the character risk over the football risk. Peyton Manning wasn’t a football risk in the sense of Mariota; so I don’t get when people have made this draft akin to a Leaf-Manning draft. If anything; as far as their scouting report with on the field style and approach; Leaf moreso would resemble Mariota due to his athleticism; while Manning would morseo resemble Winston due to football IQ and style of attacking defenses.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:48 pm
Draft Jaboo!!!
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:51 pm
Please try to look at this objectively
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This coming from the idiot who is comparing someone to Winston. Ok? LMAO.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:51 pm
“BP52 Says:
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:44 pm
When one major Winston suck up and Hero Worshipper is repeatedly posting on here under 11 different screen names at the same time and having conversations with himself the debate and conversation gets a little stale and cloggy and dragged down to a middle school level. I guess he thinks it makes his Winston army look bigger, but it just makes him look stupid and ignorant”
Conversely, I was thinking the same thing about some people who dislike Winston.
Interestingly, posts under your moniker only started on February 18th. Maybe it’s just a coincidence.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:52 pm
comparing Winston to Freeman*
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:53 pm
@couchfan stick to your couch.
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Bloody brillaint. Did you come up with that all by yourself? LMAO.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:53 pm
Just step back from this a bit……think…..could it be that they want to meet with both Winston & Mariota as early as possible so that when we are in the FA period, it might influence whether or not we bring in a backup FA vet…..or perhaps stay with Glennon?
Mariota will be in on 3/12….the start of FA.
Its possible that isn’t a factor…but to jump to conclusions about his visit either way is rediculous.
To hear some of you….I’m surprised they are wasting their time since he has already been chosen…
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:54 pm
” Mariota will now get the last impression.”
Are you sure?
Winston’s Pro day is March 31st. At this point, I don’t think we know enough to make such a determination.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:56 pm
“gotta be real about it. im a Winston fan but him coming here so early when these things usually happen right before the draft or after pro day means they probably think he sounds dumb and want to gauge his intelligence for themselves to determine if he needs to be taken off the board or if he could be the face of the franchise….it also probably means that licht and lovie are ready to sign him”
damn buc4lyfe.
1st thing I have agreed with you on. i might jump off the skyway bridge today!
it does seem to me to mean the glazers themselves want to meet this man and size him up for themselves. they are not sold and do not trust L& L to make the call.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:56 pm
@couch fan I did thanks. You know
Nothing about football I don’t know why you’re here. I’m sure you’re a loser in real life and this is your only place where people listen to your opinions or what you have to say. So I advised you to stick to your couch Mr Lonely.
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:57 pm
this is not the kind of meeting where he wants to just keep it real.
he better be on his best behavior and prepared for some damn hard questions
March 3rd, 2015 at 1:59 pm
Couch fan feels relevant and important here LOL, newsflash you’re not. No one in One Buc knows you. Your only attention comes here at this site. Congrats loser
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:03 pm
As we speak any concerns are melting away as they actually meet Mr. Winston.
Just like happened at the combine.
No worries. All good.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:04 pm
Winston will charm the Glazers. He will leave a good impression. I don’t have a doubt in my mind about that. But I do think the PR scrutiny is only going to ramp up as we get closer to the draft. That’s when the Glazers really have to evaluate if it’s worth gambling on Winston as the number 1 pick.
What if the Glazers meet and interview Mariota at the same time as the Winston scrutiny growing louder? All of a sudden, Mariota is going to look a lot more appealing, and it just might swing their decision. I would grab Mariota and never look back. Let Winston be some other team’s headcase.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:07 pm
Agreed Bucbucbuc
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:08 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo can’t imagine anyone meeting with the Glazers for 3 days……talk about sending someone straight to MLB?…….
Pablo would rather be waterboarded….by Dick Cheney….listen to 9 Inch Nails for three days or watch Nancy Pelosi pole dance for Pablo than spend that much time with the Glazers!!!”
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:12 pm
Agreed, Bucs4lyfe. QB does require more evaluation and the Bucs would be idiots not to bring in their top choices. However, you missed my point – you Winston fans already have him being drafted by the Bucs. My take with the early visit is that the Bucs want to get the answers they need before free agency starts so they arent forced to draft a QB that they aren’t comfortable with. That’s it guys. Glad they’re doing their due diligence because I can’t take another 2 win season.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:13 pm
Love for Jameis
And how many screen names have you already used today? Right now I count 7. Get a job dude
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:14 pm
Mock draft tally : Winston 11 Mariota 2
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:15 pm
I think Jacko was offended by my superior wit. It’s ok. I’d be offended to if i sounded like a moron in every post. And had uncreative and unintelligent insults to throw at people. Lol
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:15 pm
“BP52 Says:
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:13 pm
Love for Jameis
And how many screen names have you already used today? Right now I count 7. Get a job dude”
Interestingly, posts under your moniker only started on February 18th. Maybe it’s just a coincidence.
You sound like Mr. Patrick
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:18 pm
New screen names are everywhere….
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:18 pm
Mr. Patrick has disappeared….
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:20 pm
Lmao it’s getting pretty cold in here. We’re all Bucs fans, but you wouldn’t be able to tell by JBF. DAMN.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:21 pm
TBBF, I think you’ve got the Mariota meeting thing a little mixed up. My understanding is that his pro day at UO is on 3/12. I haven’t heard of him planning to come to Tampa yet and I’m sure we would have if it had been set.
He obviously will visit Tampa at some point, but I don’t think the date has been set yet.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:22 pm
87 I wonder what your screen name would be if Mariota is the pick lol. 🙂
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:24 pm
“Jameis Winston Starts Tampa Grilling”
Well then, Mr. Mankins just found a great barbecue 😉
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:26 pm
2 Examples of BOYS wearing garnett colored skirts and glasses while holding their gold POM-POMs. If you truly believe that the only choice is JW then you are a FSU homer and delusional. AND stop making excuses for this guy….like it was “understood” that Publix was letting the players steal food. Yeah right!!! only at FSU world can a thief be called a good guy. >> See D Sanders and free shoes U. Stop threatening people who dont agree with you. It makes you look like your 15 with pimples. How about something factual to support your argument like that amazing 40 yard dash he ran at the combine or him hitting all his passes.
Trevor Says:
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:10 pm
The Jameis haters need to fight their way out the brainwashing their weak minds succumbed too from the all the hit pieces the media puked out. Read the entire transcript from his hearing, the cleat chaser’s story is bogus from page 1. Everything else is the same college crap everyone did as underclassmen. You’ve got to come to terms that he will be our pick at #1.
BTW, it was well known that FSU players got free food at the publix near campus, the problem was a new employee who did not know the deal for players.
Broy34 Says:
March 3rd, 2015 at 12:48 pm
TOTAL SMOKESCREEN NICK YOU SHOULD BE SHOT. I CAN NO LONGER HANDLE READING THIS. AN UNPRECEDENTED VISIT FROM THE ONLY TEAM THAT DOESNT NEED TO BLOW SMOKE. YOU PEOPLE THAT DONT THINK WINSTON IS A BUC ARE ABSOLUTE FOOLS
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:27 pm
Superior wit? If that’s what you call it (Sure). Nothing about you is superior (trust me) nothing. From your car, house, degrees, income, or your couch lol.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:28 pm
@Jacko101
I would stop you and point to the signs that state “Do Not Feed The Trolls”
only…I think the Joes took them down.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:29 pm
Skyline Crew Says:
March 3rd, 2015 at 10:31 am
If there is anybody who is against Winston because of his character issues, yet want Hardy should not talk anymore.
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Im usually agree with you alot Sky but not this time. What Winston is accused of and what Hardy was accused of are apples and pineapples. Not to mention the fact that Winston has had numerous boneheaded incidents in two yrs.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:30 pm
I think I should jump off a bridge if you and I are on the same page it means my football IQ took a nose dive
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:31 pm
Yup, sure big guy. Are you trying to convince us or yourself? Dont worry we all believe you, trust me. LOl
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:31 pm
Winston’s pro day is the end of the month, Mariota’s is next week. They will bring him in after that. Winston being here does Not mean he’s the pick. Stop listening to the media and Couch fan.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:34 pm
I tell you what. I would love to play poker with some of you guys. You fall for every bluff thrown at you even if it is the same one.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:35 pm
Ahh is that what the issue is? More people are listening to me than you. So its jealousy and envy. I get it now. It’s hard being famous on JBF.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:37 pm
https://instagram.com/p/ztEeKEhMcM/?modal=true
Jaboo and his little bro.
Looks pretty relaxed.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:38 pm
@Knuck & Sky
The cases are totally different…… Hardy was actually convicted by a Judge….but in NC, he can request a jury….he did….then the case was settled/dismissed.
Winston was merely accused allbeit a more serious crime.
As far as bringing in the players…..that’s a mixed bag too…..if you signed Hardy, for example…that might make it more difficult to sign Winston….a bit too much of a stretch on character risks….
Some would say it would pave the way for Winston…but I think not.
I think we can get away with one….
As far as being hypocritical to call for one and not the other…there is a difference there also…..Hardy is a FA….maybe he is brought in on a non-guarantee contract.
Winston is #1 overall pick QB “Face of the Franchise”….I think a much higher bar for Winston.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:43 pm
The glazers probably won’t be taking him to publix or BK. Berns or other trendy places should on alert tho. Don’t let JW in that wine room!!!
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:43 pm
Sure Couch fan you’re famous. You also have no life, hence why you probably add your 2 cents to every post. The difference is I speak from knowledge and you speak out of your rectum. I can’t count how many times I seen comments regarding “where is couch fan now” or “couch fan was wrong”. We are both Bucs fans, but I’m a true fan who wants to see change.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:45 pm
I heard they bolted everything down so it didn’t disappear
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:45 pm
Couch Fan Says:
“I get it now. It’s hard being famous on JBF.”
Ha ha ha ha
I’m telling ya Couch it’s a tough life…
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:48 pm
MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:22 pm
“87 I wonder what your screen name would be if Mariota is the pick lol. :)”
The same one it will be the day after they take Jameis.
Buc1987.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:48 pm
-Sees fight between Couch and Jack
-Grabs popcorn.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:50 pm
Lol Knuckle dragger
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:51 pm
Back to work for me. Later rational football fans.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:52 pm
The difference is I speak from knowledge and you speak out of your rectum.
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You speak from knowledge but yet you know nothing about me. I do not think rectum means what you think it means. LMAO. Keep trying though. The little people of the world amuse me.
Dont mess with me I’m famous.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:54 pm
I’m telling ya Couch it’s a tough life…
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Some of us are just born for this 87.
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:56 pm
Glazers “trying to be cool”…..”Hey Jaboo, how ya hangin”…….
Winston “On her chin”
Glazers “Jameis, convince us you can be the face of our franchise”
Jameis “I’ll keep it real”
Glazers “Keep what real”
Jameis “It”….
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:58 pm
The “Evans and ASJ didn’t visit Tampa” agreement doesn’t work here. Biggest difference is the bucs hold the number one pick. They don’t have worry if they need to trade up, hope a player falls or someone trades in front of them. They control their own destiny with the first pick
March 3rd, 2015 at 2:58 pm
I love the people saying Winston will be a bust.
All this same stuff was said about Cam Newton prior to him going to Carolina; all of it.
Newton is a generational talent. Winston will also be a generational talent. So many people just don’t get it. Newton has shown almost zero character flaws in the nfl.
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:01 pm
@TBBF
Lol, Is it bad that I can see it happening like that?
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:01 pm
And once Mariota gets here I’m sure the same things that the Homers are saying will be said then, but to the Homers that will just be a smoke screen. And circle goes round and round.
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:02 pm
All U Can Eat Crab Legs….at my tailgate party opening day at Raymond Jameis.
You bring the butter.
Jameis never forgot the butter…
“My boy’s wicked smaaart” – Good Will Hunting
Mr. Patrick… Do you like apples?
Jameis Winston is going to be a Buc…How do you like them apples?
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:02 pm
Also, if Mariota is considered to have major on field issues then Winston does as well. His throwing mechanics and inability to read underneath coverages has been discussed several times. The fact that you all seem to overlook that is surprising.
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:09 pm
@Skyline,
almost the same way how Mariota supporters seem to ignore the high sack totals and the multiple fumbles???
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:11 pm
@Jacko101 & Couchfan
Y’all are so immature, it’s ridiculous. Having a pissing contest on a sports blog, how embarrassing.
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:12 pm
all you guys saying he is going to charm the glazers are out of your friggin mind and have obviously never had a one on one with a CEO.
these are very analytical types, and YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CHARM THEM.
again, he blew it at the combine with all that keepin it real crap and actin on top of the world. the polls show it when the team execs preferred mariota and thats one of the reasons jimbo aint getting any calls.
this is JW’s opportunity to DISPROVE the fact that he has come across as a cocky arrogant fool. and I don’t think he is gonna charm anyone, damn sure not some leprechan lookin big wig staring down at him while he’s keepin it ral.
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:12 pm
@CmonMan News Flash! Only reason bics didnt meet Evans is because they didn’t want other teams know who they are choosing incase they would move up to steal him away from the bucs. Being at #1 you can do whatever you want.
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:16 pm
Y’all are so immature, it’s ridiculous. Having a pissing contest on a sports blog, how embarrassing.
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Never said I was mature. And you commenting makes you more mature? Lol.
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:17 pm
Winston gets it at age 17.
“He’s got this infectious personality,” Dilfer said. “A lot of people use the term leadership, but I like guys who are comfortable in their own skin. That’s Jameis. He came in a little unprepared, and he admitted it. But he’s got a real presence to him. I’ve been real proud of him.”
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:17 pm
this is funny with all the JW supporters spouting off in here like they just won the lottery.
the exact opposite is playing out. the brought him in because the are interested in other options and want to know whats what before FA.
If they were sold on him, why the hell even bring him in….and why with the glazers. this is a bad day for the homers, but i find it hysterical they are so cluelessly blinded they don’t even know it
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:20 pm
robert 9…this aint the only site it’s being posted as a sign that he’s coming…
Google his name jerky.
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:21 pm
@Pawel
Bingo!
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:23 pm
@Couchfan
I thought by pointing out the stupidity of the argument, maybe you’d realize that it’s not worth the argument, but I see now you’re just going to try and start a new one with me. What a waste of time. Enjoy your day.
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:27 pm
Who’s arguing? Lol It’s ok to point out something were doing but your essentially doing the same but claiming your not but thats ok. Lol. Awfully sensitive. Good day!
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:28 pm
So what are we supposed to assume when they bring in Mariota for his interview?
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:47 pm
All U Can Eat Crab Legs….at my tailgate party opening day at Raymond Jameis.
And.
Mr. Patrick, robert 9, BarryGrandTheftAuto…and the rest of you squawkers can come to the party too…
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:53 pm
Robert is gonna fall apart because of this pick. You know it’s a real possibility the bucs draft him and signs point to it more than mariotta. Are we gonna to have to listen to you cry all offseason
March 3rd, 2015 at 3:57 pm
@87
I can’t wait for you to return to the old Buc1987…..you have absolutely no idea what it is like to be on the other end of your Winston posts…
Part of me admires your wild-eyed passion and part of me thinks you are flat-a$$ obsessive compulsive.
March 3rd, 2015 at 4:01 pm
celly,
it’s the fact that the brought him in early, and specifically to meet the glazers!
if there was not some serious concerns it would not be needed.
March 3rd, 2015 at 4:01 pm
I’m a passionate Bucs fan as I’m sure he is (couch fan) too, we just don’t agree on this topic. And yes back and forth is usually not me but hey It’s Tuesday lol.
Couch fan I do have a question if The Bucs draft Mariota would you support him?
March 3rd, 2015 at 4:05 pm
it’s not like they have to lure him. I could understand if it was a coveted FA.
but in this case, he is theirs for the taking, and if they were sold he is the pick this meeting would not be happening.
I don’t care how many sites, fans etc see it as a positive. not only is this my expertise, it’s common sense.
March 3rd, 2015 at 4:24 pm
[…] Report: Jameis Winston Starts 3-Day Tampa Grilling […]
March 3rd, 2015 at 4:28 pm
@Brad If anything Winston would be Manning and Mariota would be Leaf. Manning was talked to be more NFL ready (like Winston,) and Leaf more athletic. Also Manning was a little immature in college, just like college kids are immature in college. I wonder how the NFL would have been 10 + years ago now that everything any star player does goes viral.
Anyone who brings up a documentary of a money grubbing college girl who got the boot from all courts as a source to not draft Winston should just stick to shows like Meet the Kardashians, because facts don’t concern you as much as gossip.
Winston has been praised for his hard work, how he stays late after EVERY practice to watch game and practice film. Character? I am not an FSU fan but anyone who played with the guy seems like they would take a bullet for him, and all the NFL players already seem to like him so it really doesn’t matter what your opinion on character is it matters what the guys playing with him think; wins should be your concern. For the record I will take hard work, confidence, and talent any day.
@Creamsiclebananahammock: Very well said, though I think most people who watch Winston with an unbiased view love him. Either way people will have an opinion of the Bucs which is good for business.
I am also REALLY confused how Mariota is the safer pick? Because he seems like a swell guy, or because he didn’t “steal” crab legs? His mechanics are worst, and he hasn’t played in a pro style offense. Speed maybe? Take the top five QBs in the NFL and let me know there average 40 time.
March 3rd, 2015 at 4:32 pm
“robert 9 Says:
March 3rd, 2015 at 4:05 pm
it’s not like they have to lure him. I could understand if it was a coveted FA.
but in this case, he is theirs for the taking, and if they were sold he is the pick this meeting would not be happening.
I don’t care how many sites, fans etc see it as a positive. not only is this my expertise, it’s common sense.”
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Uhhh, so much for your “expertise”
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“Colts owner has 3-hour meeting with Andrew Luck
Posted Apr 10, 2012
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) – Jim Irsay says team officials are even more impressed with Andrew Luck after a three-hour meeting Tuesday in Indianapolis.
The Colts owner wrote on Twitter that it’s easy to see why Luck and the No. 1 pick have been synonymous for two years.
Irsay has said the Colts will take a quarterback with the No. 1 pick in this month’s NFL draft. And while there have strong indications the Colts will take Luck, neither Irsay nor general manager Ryan Grigson have said the Stanford quarterback will be the choice for Indy.
Luck is considered the most NFL-ready quarterback since 1998 when Peyton Manning was taken No. 1 overall by the Colts. Indy released Manning last month, a move that led many to believe Luck would be the No. 1 pick April 26.”
March 3rd, 2015 at 4:47 pm
love, you truly are special.
thats not a compliment.
luck met with indy well over a month after JW is meeting the glazers. that was standard procedure.
March 3rd, 2015 at 4:48 pm
I mean are you REALLY that damned stupid? they met mid April!
March 3rd, 2015 at 4:51 pm
Robert 9: “If they meet with a prospect between this and this date, they clearly do NOT want him. But, if it’s 3-4 weeks later? Then it’s TOTALLY DIFFERENT. Trust me! I know football!!!”
You keep on thinking you know something. Just make sure to not go hide and change your user name on April 30th.
I freaking cannot wait to rub it in.
March 3rd, 2015 at 4:58 pm
i’ve yet to be wrong love.
March 3rd, 2015 at 5:01 pm
Sign this young man to a contract and put a playbook in his hands TODAY! The sooner he gets started learning Koetters system and terminology – the better chance we have of winning games early in the season. Anyone who thinks Winston won’t be our starting QB from day 1 in 2015 is incorrect.
March 3rd, 2015 at 5:01 pm
Ever, with anything?
Shiz, we’ve got a perfect, omniscient, genius here hanging out on JBF, people!! What are the odds?
April 30 is going to be a sweet, sweet day.
March 3rd, 2015 at 5:14 pm
I can’t speak for Couch, but speaking for myself, i will say loudly YES. I’ve been wanting Winston since it became obvious that we’d be having the #1 pick (meaning since week 17).
But guess who I like more than Winston? The BUCS. Who ever is lining up under center is who i support. As much as I want Winston, i care more about the team than an individual player.
As a matter of fact, I wanted nothing more than for Glennon to win a few games last year. Just because i don’t believe in him doesn’t mean I wasn’t rooting for him.
Ahhh, the power of the internet. Where anyone can say anything they want and not be held accountable for it…especially when they can hide behind some username.
March 3rd, 2015 at 5:21 pm
Celly that’s True, kudos to you. I’ll be team Winston if I absolutely have to be lol
March 3rd, 2015 at 5:24 pm
@ Celly
I feel exactly the same way you do….but support Mariota….
I believe you can passionately support either QB, Glennon, Trade Down or pick Leonard Williams or even someone else….and still be a strong Buc fan.
Just because there is disagreement doesn’t mean we don’t desperately all want to win.
March 3rd, 2015 at 5:27 pm
I disagree with the Trade Down part.
If you’re going to support something, at least make it realistic. I have yet to find one example of the #1 pick being traded (excluding the Manning/Rivers and Elway scenarios).
The one thing i’m tired of hearing (read: seeing) is people say, “just get a QB next year.”
At some point, next year has to be THIS year.
also:
I have seen plenty of people on here who would rather lose just to get rid of the coach than to win and have success…
March 3rd, 2015 at 5:29 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo just read on a Telemundo site that the Bucs are interested in Mark Sanchez and are considering drafting Cody Fajardo from Nevada in a late round…..and bring in Jeff Garcia to mentor….going with 3 QBs next year….Pablo is very excited about this news”
March 3rd, 2015 at 5:32 pm
i’ve yet to change my user name except from robert 7 to 8 to 9 when joe klcked me for being right all the time.
check for yourself
March 3rd, 2015 at 5:39 pm
@Celly
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I was going to refrain from posting until i read this.
I’m so tired of the, “Wait till next year” crowd.
So, what happens when we win just enough games next year to not draft a top QB and both Winston and Mariota are leading their teams to wins?
What happens if there are no QB’s next year that are on par with Winston/Mariota?
At some point, you need to grab your balls and just take a chance. The crap-shoot that is the draft doesn’t get any better by waiting a year.
I want Winston (but would be “OK” if they took Mariota) but one way or the other, we NEED to draft a QB with our #1 pick. Point. Blank. Period.
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It’s not a coincidence that the teams that most often trade back to stock up on picks, such as the Patriots, Packers, and 49ers, are among the most consistently successful franchises in the league.
For sake of argument:
Suppose we trade with the browns and get their 2 1’s this year. The NFL draft is a lottery, and now we have 2 GOOD chances to get a couple of starters at value, with reduced risk. Next year will have Cardale Jones and Hackenberg available. Jones may not be any better the Winston, we have a shot at next years crop of QB’s. Winston and Mariota will both be stunted on our roster as it is. Did you see the turnstile we pretended was an O line last year? We need SEVERAL players before we can achieve long term relevance…
March 3rd, 2015 at 5:40 pm
@TBBF
You’ve got to tell me, cause i’ve been confused since i’ve started seeing you do this:
Is Pablo locked up and you’re writing his posts for him?
March 3rd, 2015 at 5:44 pm
@Brad,
I see your point, and i have no problem with trading down. My issue is this (and i’ll put it in caps since no one seems to get the point or will address that what i’m actually saying):
WHEN IS THE LAST TIME A TEAM HAS TRADED DOWN FROM THE #1 PICK?
If we had the #2 pick or any other pick in the draft, i could get behind this line of thinking because it has happened before (WAS/STL). I just find no point in wasting brain cells trying to hope and pray for something the happen that (I believe) has never happened before. If I’m wrong, please, i beg you PLEASE show me where.
(and, as i said before, the Manning/Rivers situation and Elway situation don’t count because they involved actual players after they were drafted).
March 3rd, 2015 at 5:50 pm
“robert 9 Says:
March 3rd, 2015 at 5:32 pm
i’ve yet to change my user name except from robert 7 to 8 to 9 when joe klcked me for being right all the time.
check for yourself”
Dashon Goldson
March 3rd, 2015 at 6:19 pm
Here’s what I found out about Winston’s past 40 yard dash times.
David M Hale – ESPN.com
“Improvement for Winston always came quickly. After a particularly dismal 40-yard dash in front of coaches at Alabama in ninth grade, he began working with Otis Leverette, a former NFL player who trains athletes in Birmingham. Leverette gave him a crash course in running fundamentals — some strength exercises and changes to his form.”
“Three weeks later, Winston returned to Tuscaloosa for a second try. He cut his time from 4.8 to 4.6, a margin that Alabama coach Nick Saban refused to believe. He made Winston run it twice more, and Winston hit the same mark again and again.”
“It literally takes me a year to get kids to understand the fundamentals of running,” Leverette said, “and he picked it up in three weeks.”
March 3rd, 2015 at 6:20 pm
Tom is right. They need to start crafting the playbook. We need to allow plenty of time for the rest of the team to decode the ebonics plays.
March 3rd, 2015 at 6:22 pm
@ Celly
Pablo vanished from JBF…..I really enjoyed his posts….I always thought he was trying to be serious…but ended up being hilarious.
I missed him, so I started posting for him…..
It gives me an opportunity to be humorus…and I believe the posts are entertaining. So….Pablo Lives!!!
March 3rd, 2015 at 6:22 pm
“wifebeatter5 Says:
March 3rd, 2015 at 6:20 pm
Tom is right. They need to start crafting the playbook. We need to allow plenty of time for the rest of the team to decode the ebonics plays.”
Nothing racial there……
March 3rd, 2015 at 6:23 pm
i was going to post something to retort this, but there’s no use in fighting ignorance with more ignorance.
smh. the power of the keyboard warriors.
March 3rd, 2015 at 6:31 pm
Hope he doesn’t try and steal the Glazers wallet. Although he would be able to pay for those crab legs.
March 3rd, 2015 at 6:32 pm
@Celly
I am not in favor of a trade down & yes…it hasn’t been done with a #1…..but I respect the opinions of those that do and don’t question their loyalty.
I suspect that they are Glennon supporters and truly believe that, given the chance with a good OC/Oline…he can be “the guy”
I don’t agree…but I can’t call them disloyal.
Now for those that want to lose to get rid of a coach they dislike…..those are not Buc fans…..no real fan would want to lose just because they have a hatred/dislike for any particular coach.
March 3rd, 2015 at 6:34 pm
Right, and with that being said, i’d rather them state, “I’d rather them take [insert favorite player here] with the #1 pick” because its something that could actually happen.
The trade down is more than unlikely, and people’s unwillingness to acknowledge that, to me, discredits (some of) their football knowledge and history.
March 3rd, 2015 at 6:39 pm
@Celly
The buc dot com website….did a survey (non scientific)….only 3 per cent wanted to trade down…..I really think its a non issue.
March 3rd, 2015 at 6:57 pm
jameis is going to Macditons with my people tomorow night
March 3rd, 2015 at 8:07 pm
robert 9 Says:
March 3rd, 2015 at 5:32 pm
i’ve yet to change my user name except from robert 7 to 8 to 9 when joe klcked me for being right all the time.
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Yes -we’re all sure that’s exactly how it went down….
March 3rd, 2015 at 11:36 pm
CreamsicleBananaHammock Says
“TBBF, I think you’ve got the Mariota meeting thing a little mixed up. My understanding is that his pro day at UO is on 3/12. I haven’t heard of him planning to come to Tampa yet and I’m sure we would have if it had been set.”
That would make sense…if we’d known Winston was coming before he got here.