Joel Glazer: “Fans Are Smart”
March 30th, 2015
In what felt like one of those ESPN Sunday Conversation segments without cameras, Joe sat down with Team Glazer at the fabulous Arizona Biltmore resort, during the NFL Owners Meetings last week.
It was a 1-on-1 session with Buccaneers co-chairman Joel Glazer.
Among other things, Joe sought a sense of how Team Glazer considers fans.
JoeBucsFan.com: When Jon Gruden was fired, your brother Bryan made the comment that your family took the pulse of Bucs fans, who are the team’s “stockholders,” and that revealed it was time for change. How important is the pulse of the fans to you in every thing you do?
Joel Glazer: Ultimately, we want our fans to be happy because that means we’re having success. That’s the barometer. You know, fans want a winning team. We want a winning team. They want a team they can be proud of. We want a team we can be proud of. Everyone’s interests are aligned. So I wouldn’t say you take the fan temperature on every single thing that’s going on.
I always say, ‘Fans are smart. Fans know right. Fans know wrong.’ Fans know when something is being done right. They know when something is wrong. It’s always important to be in touch with your fans and know how they feel and see how they feel about things going on in the stadium, how they’re going on with the team, and everything. So you can’t disconnect yourself from the fans. At the same token, you’ve got to take a measured approach.
What you can see in the quote is Glazer getting a little animated when referencing that “fans are smart.” It was a heartfelt moment.
And Joe agrees: Most hardcore fans have clear vision when it comes to what’s happening with their team. Of course, the ones who don’t — and the ones who think they do but really don’t — keep it all fun and entertaining around town.
Just this afternoon, Joe was cornered by a passionate Bucs fan who was a little down the Bucs could no longer trade with the Eagles for Nick Foles.
You can also check out Joe’s discussions with Glazer on his personal fan experience, growing impatience of fans, and comfort with Jameis Winston.
March 30th, 2015 at 4:02 pm
This should be one of the more interesting comment sections in a while….
March 30th, 2015 at 4:06 pm
I don’t know about yall, but I like the Glazers. They care about the team, and they’re willing to open the checkbook to try and improve. They aren’t as savvy as their dad was, but they’re trying, and I respect that.
March 30th, 2015 at 4:07 pm
The fans are indeed smart. And the popular choice for our #1 draft pick is Mariota. (In every poll except JBF)
March 30th, 2015 at 4:08 pm
If we were as smart as he claims, we never would step foot in RJS for any event ever again. This community is nothing but a $ sign for them…nothing more, nothing less. The Glazers would not piss on us if we were on fire. They would put out the fire and then send us an invoice.
March 30th, 2015 at 4:10 pm
Fans: “Bucs owners are not smart. Be thankful you’re Malcolm’s kids”
March 30th, 2015 at 4:11 pm
This felt like a sleazy attempt at trying prop up disgruntled fans so that they have something to feel good about. Nothing like dissipating anger by throwing out some compliments. Really unnecessary, Mr. Glazer. No hard feelings though.
March 30th, 2015 at 4:15 pm
If they listened to the fans “polls” then we would be stuck with Trent Richardson right now.
March 30th, 2015 at 4:19 pm
That gives me a thought. I think I’ll go over to Buc Nation and keep voting for Winston over and over again, until it says 50/50 instead of 48 Winston 52 Mariota.
I mean hell I already voted 6 times for Winston on that poll, why not more.
March 30th, 2015 at 4:21 pm
@eric Mariota is not close. Can’t remember his name but QB Oregon had before Mariota had outrageous stats. It’s system, screen plays that go for lot of yards. Mariota is too meek for NFL. He will have trouble controlling the huddle… Lol
March 30th, 2015 at 4:26 pm
Mariota is to meek for NFL!! He will have trouble with the huddle for gods sake. He calls plays to himself at home…want a dance instructor Mariota is you man..a LEADER Winston.
March 30th, 2015 at 4:29 pm
Gotta say that among the best PR moves the Glazers have made in a while is sitting down with Joe. Verry smart move. I almost want to hang out with Joel now.
March 30th, 2015 at 4:32 pm
Bucs fans are smart – smart enough to know the Glazer boys don’t give two farts about this team since they “bought” Manurechester united. All their money and what little brains they may have had went across the pond. I can only hope this franchise will one day be owned by someone with a clue who cares.
March 30th, 2015 at 4:37 pm
Glazers are giving buc fans too much credit.
March 30th, 2015 at 4:38 pm
There are buc fans who constantly believe that lining up in the shotgun is the same as the spread offense. The glazers are giving buc fans too much credit
March 30th, 2015 at 4:39 pm
The Question that needs to be asked is Winston SMART enough. Honestly I don’t know anything about the kid except what is in the media. The one quality an NFL QB must have is intelligence! Yes they need arm strength and all the intangibles, but what every good QB shares is a high IQ.
March 30th, 2015 at 4:39 pm
There are some buc fans who feel as though glennon is a franchise qb. The glazers are giving buc fans to much credit for being smart.
March 30th, 2015 at 4:40 pm
Since the “fans” on this site can’t seem to agree on anything much, how can you tell which ones are the smart ones?
March 30th, 2015 at 4:44 pm
Bucnjim Says:
March 30th, 2015 at 4:39 pm
The Question that needs to be asked is Winston SMART enough. Honestly I don’t know anything about the kid except what is in the media. The one quality an NFL QB must have is intelligence! Yes they need arm strength and all the intangibles, but what every good QB shares is a high IQ.
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Well seeing that he had a 4.0 coming out of high school and was accepted to stanford means he is smart. He maintained a 3.7 in college would lead me to believe he is smart. There were some scouts from the combine that stated that Winston’s x’s and o’s on the white board is equal to what Peyton manning was coming out of college. That would lead me to believe he has a high IQ. I don’t know how else you would judge that.
March 30th, 2015 at 4:45 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Glazer is right…fans are smart….Pablo is smart….Pablo is the smartest of 11 children….with an IQ of 104…..Pablo does stupid things but Pablo has learned that smart people can do stupid things (Winston)….”
March 30th, 2015 at 4:48 pm
Bucnjim…4.0 GPA in high school 3.6 GPA in college and got accepted to Stanford.
Wowed scouts at the combine with his football IQ with some comparing it to Peyton Manning’s football IQ.
When around adults…talks like an adult. When around his friends, talk ebonics.
So there you have it Winston in a nutshell.
March 30th, 2015 at 4:51 pm
Pablo has learned that smart people can do stupid things (Winston)….”
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Yep and don’t forget all the CEO’s that cheat on their taxes etc. It happens all over the place. Luckily Winston only had a bb gun fight and his stupidity did not take money away from children’s education like when you cheat on your taxes etc. That smart stupid winston.
March 30th, 2015 at 4:52 pm
Since the fans want Mariota then they will get Mariota, right? I doubt they care what the fans want. They just say what sounds good.
March 30th, 2015 at 4:55 pm
For those that don’t know what a spread offense is here it is in a nutshell:
Spread offenses typically place the quarterback in the shotgun formation, and “spread” the defense horizontally using three-, four-, and even five-receiver sets. Many spread offenses also employ a no-huddle approach. Some implementations of the spread also feature wide splits between the offensive linemen. Many spread offenses use the read option running play to put pressure on both sides of the defense. Spread offenses also leverage vertical (down field) passing routes to spread the defense vertically, to open up multiple vertical seams for both the running and passing game.
March 30th, 2015 at 4:59 pm
Looks like Jameis is smart enough to become a millionaire.
Following winning the National Championship and Heisman.
Not that he could compare to you masters of the cubicle.
March 30th, 2015 at 5:02 pm
The majority of the fans were smart enough NOT to go to the games last year, so Mr. Glazer is right, fans are smart.
March 30th, 2015 at 5:02 pm
He’s giving way too much credit to fans. When you see comparisons to Jamarcus Russell or Josh Freeman, you know people have no idea what they are talking about.
March 30th, 2015 at 5:15 pm
Yes, the fans are “smart”. The problem is I don’t know how smart the bucs’ org is… C’mon bro you didn’t sign Hardy??? HarlemBuc will admit(joe voice) that he thought about giving up his bucs fan crusade to a team that knows winning(New England wassup?!)… But he thought against it because all his friends like the assGiants of NY.
Bucs fan nation I just want a team I can rub my friends faces in… Lovie?! Licht?! Is that soooooooo hard???
March 30th, 2015 at 5:17 pm
Hardy didn’t want to be a Buc. Not hard to see why his wife beating ass wasn’t signed.
March 30th, 2015 at 5:23 pm
Cue the Kevin in 5, 4, 3, 2, ….
You fckn people are so fckn stupid – stop breathing my air. Lmao lol. That chit kills me every time. I love me so the Kevin.
March 30th, 2015 at 5:27 pm
WS99…when I first found JBF over 2 years ago…I was just like “The Kevin”.
Joe kept deleting my posts left and right. Constantly warning me, posters as well. lol
March 30th, 2015 at 5:28 pm
Dude. I get it he beats women. But signing him next to Bad Boy McCoy could have been epic. Dude?!
Hardy and McCoy. F/$(‘ng period dude.
And now we are talking a team with no “real” strengths… I can see this being a team in 3 years who is talking about not having an “identity”!!!
March 30th, 2015 at 5:30 pm
Spread offenses typically place the quarterback in the shotgun formation, and “spread” the defense horizontally using three-, four-, and even five-receiver sets.
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Please note, there were 3, 4, 5 receiver sets out of the shotgun in the NFL before the spread. The spread is the devise of the plays just like with any other offense ie west coast or run and shoot. Most offenses deploy a vertical attack but it does not mean the spread. Again the WR in the spread do not even run all the routes in the route tree which causes them to have trouble transitioning to the pro style offenses that implement 5 WR sets etc.
March 30th, 2015 at 5:33 pm
This “smart” fan sometimes sees the same look in Mariota’s eyes that he saw always in Josh Freeman’s. Smalls from The Sandlot sneaking on to the field for the first time saying to himself “don’t be a doofus, don’t be a doofus.” Most important trait in a QB…. Killer Instinct. Just saying’
March 30th, 2015 at 5:34 pm
I think fans would rather have $2 beers than anything else. Truth is most fans are morons. I gave up my season tickets because the people sitting around me had the combined IQ of a foot. The smart fan no longer visits Ray Jay
March 30th, 2015 at 5:43 pm
They’re listening to somebody wrong, for sure. Coach Gruden should have been given another year after just having been given a renewed contract in 2008 and Monte leaving in mid-season. Coach Schiano should have been given another year after going through the most adversity, i.e., false accusations, QB haywire, media hatchet job of any person in the history of sports.
March 30th, 2015 at 5:58 pm
Y’all are bunch of f’ing trolls. The Glazers have been great owners. They spend nothing, Raheem goes 10-6…they spend ass loads, we go 2-14. We have one of the worst football markets in the NFL and they haven’t once publicly mentioned moving. If they were such penny pinchers who didn’t give a sh*t, they’d be gone. If you do not see that, you’re completely lost.
March 30th, 2015 at 5:58 pm
hmmm…it occurs to me as i read these comments that perhaps the Glazer family has a bit of empathy for the victim of a media hatchet job. after all, josh freeman’s agent went all Erica Kingsman on them in 2012 and poured poison all over the franchise. I guess Winston and the Glazer family are looking to one another for their chance at redemption
March 30th, 2015 at 6:01 pm
Because of our “smart fans”, Jon Gruden got fired and we’ve been sucking since then!! Thanks “smart fans!”
March 30th, 2015 at 6:15 pm
I rank the Glazers as middle of the road owners. Not great not awful. They spent money when they needed to early on and got us a Super Bowl. Scoreboard for the Glazers.
Then they leveraged all their assets, including the Bucs to turn themselves into billionaires with Man U. I got no problem with that. Sucks for us as Buc fans made perfect sense for them.
Now they’re able to return their interest and $$$ back to the Bucs.
They’re not nearly as good as Jeff Vinik, they’re not nearly as sleazy as that Goldman Sachs bankers Stu Sternberg.
March 30th, 2015 at 6:15 pm
Erik, Skyline, Supersam I will make it simple for you to understand. Forget spread offense, forget Heisman trophies, forget National Championships as things that matter. The better quarterback is Jameis Winston plain and simple. I sit in that stadium year after year listening to people like you, who clearly don’t know football, say the dumbest things. So that being said who cares what a fan vote says since most of them, like you 3, prove every game that they have no idea what they are talking about. As an example there was one play last year where the ball was rolled back to McCown who was in the shotgun. The reaction of a fan in my section was “come on McClown what’s your problem make a play”. By your comments on this site I could swear it was one of you 3.
March 30th, 2015 at 6:23 pm
Eric
Looks like Jameis is smart enough to become a millionaire.
Following winning the National Championship and Heisman.
Not that he could compare to you masters of the cubicle
Wow are you confused. You equate the physical gifts God gave him with brains.
I’m insulted! I couldn’t even carry Fameis jock athletically but he’s not a pimple on my butt intellectually.
Dude is so “smart” with those two suspensions that he almost cost himself MILLIONS with this “smart” behavior.
WE all have our God given blessings. Fameis got athletic skill out the wazoo but he’s not the brightest bulb in the chandelier. And mind you I’m for taking him first because he’s a good football player and COULD turn out to be great.
But I’m not looking forward to seeing him interviewed after games.
March 30th, 2015 at 6:28 pm
I thought the major difference between spread and shotgun is that in the spread your qb is an option runner a second running back if you would.
March 30th, 2015 at 6:38 pm
Keepitreal Says:
March 30th, 2015 at 4:21 pm
@eric Mariota is not close. Can’t remember his name but QB Oregon had before Mariota had outrageous stats. It’s system, screen plays that go for lot of yards. Mariota is too meek for NFL. He will have trouble controlling the huddle… Lol
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Darron Thomas was his name, I’ve been saying the same thing for months. The guy didn’t even get drafted and struggling in the arena league.
March 30th, 2015 at 6:38 pm
Fans are smart?
March 30th, 2015 at 6:41 pm
The #1 choice is J. Winston. Just go to any mock draft in the last 3 months. Mariota fans trade in your chicken wings for crab legs. And yes hide your wife and daughters cuz we are about to get Winston. We are playoff bound again. Amen.
March 30th, 2015 at 6:53 pm
@ runtodaylight
Totally agree on BOTH points. Both examples of overly zealous but short sighted fans influencing knee jerk reactions from the Glazers.
March 30th, 2015 at 6:54 pm
Anybody comparing Darron Thomas to Mariota doesn’t know football. Like comparing Geno or Christian to Winston.
March 30th, 2015 at 7:04 pm
You mean like voting here 87. You can do the same here. Just change your browser. Wasn’t to hard.
March 30th, 2015 at 7:05 pm
@skyline
What’s the difference between thomas and mariota because neither can see the field
March 30th, 2015 at 7:10 pm
That’s your opinion not fact. Winston can’t read underneath coverage and stares at receivers.
March 30th, 2015 at 7:16 pm
Mariota is the most efficient qb in college history. Geno Smith is the second most efficient qb in college history. Geno was expected to go in the first but dropped to the second. Then he was asked to run a real NFL off, much like lovie’s smith offense, and he’s failed miserably. But that’s none of my business though.
March 30th, 2015 at 7:16 pm
@st pete
Jameis might not be the most articulate person I’ve ever heard but the kid was excepted to Stanford so that’s saying something. I’m pretty sure he has plenty of “book sense”. Everyone is not great at public speaking.
March 30th, 2015 at 7:16 pm
Skyline Crew Says:
March 30th, 2015 at 7:04 pm
“You mean like voting here 87. You can do the same here. Just change your browser. Wasn’t to hard.”
There’s only so many browsers dude. Most people aren’t that smart to begin with. The Buc Nation one you don’t have to change a thing.
March 30th, 2015 at 7:22 pm
@skyline
Its 15 minutes worth of highlights on youtube that says otherwise. I mean throw after throw after throw after friggin throw with anticipation into small nfl style windows. Its not your ‘normal/typical highlight tape”. Its 15 friggin minutes dude and not the same throws over and over from different camera view. You don’t see the litte bubble screens with the receivers running 60 yards neither.
March 30th, 2015 at 7:25 pm
All you see is defenders crashing into each other as he slips the pass right by them.
March 30th, 2015 at 7:25 pm
Browser? What’s a f@%+ing browser?
March 30th, 2015 at 7:28 pm
@ws99
Thanks for making my argument that’s called a tight window lmao
March 30th, 2015 at 7:30 pm
@joe
Naw for real man you got to get a “favorite button” lmaoo. You and the glazers give these fans waaaaayyyy too much credit for being “smart”
March 30th, 2015 at 7:34 pm
@iamkingsu
Did you see the story in Spots Illustrated about North Carolina.
UNC had one of the best reps in the land academically and claimed their athletes had to meet stringent standards.
Turned out it was all a sham. Courses designed especially for athletes.
GPA for jocks are a joke! Getting accepted to Stanford certainly means he’s not an Aquib Talib or Legarrette Blount level cement head. But like virtually all U”s Stanford does make allowances for football players.
From the Stanford Daily…
Based on university statistics, this puts the football median comfortably in the bottom quartile and likely somewhere in the bottom 10 percent in terms of test scores. Stanford football players are quite smart, but the data suggests they place near the bottom of Stanford’s admits.
March 30th, 2015 at 7:37 pm
Gangsta, Gangsta! That’s what they’re yellin
“It’s not about a salary, it’s all about reality”
Gangsta, Gangsta! That’s what they’re yellin – NWA
March 30th, 2015 at 7:38 pm
BTW Just so there’s no charge of racism….
Richard Sherman is not only incredibly articulate…Celly informed me it’s beccause Sherman was a communication major at Stanford….but Sherman clearly possesses critical thinking skillls. It’s not just HOW Sherman communicates it’s WHAT he says.
March 30th, 2015 at 7:39 pm
It’s the Gruden curse, the Bucs do not make the Playoffs until Chucky has another HC job. That’s what you get for cutting first-class guys like Derrick Brooks and Warrick Dunn, you end up getting schianoed.
March 30th, 2015 at 7:44 pm
How Do Folks in Jameis Winston’s Hometown See Star QB Now?
By Ray Glier , College Football National Columnist
May 16, 2014
Winston took Advanced Placement classes at Hueytown High School. He sailed through them, said Marrianne Hayward, the instructional assistant principal at Hueytown High School. It was English, math, science, the core courses. Hayward said Winston did a television interview in the 10th grade and said on air, “If I make below a B in a class, my mother will spank me.”
“He not only did well in school, he had colleges here all the time recruiting him, and he withstood the pressure,” Hayward said. “His grades were so good he talked about going to college to study to be a podiatrist.”
The quarterback received the Butch Wilson Award for the highest grade-point average for a football player.
Alan Boshell, a career tech teacher at Hueytown High School, said Winston took his computer class his senior year. It was a class of mostly freshmen and a required course, but Winston had let it slip by until his final year.
“We had these ninth-grade boys walking past him gawking, but he handled it well,” Boshell said. “He didn’t act like a lot of seniors when they are around freshmen. If they needed help, I saw him help them. He never treated those kids like peons.”
March 30th, 2015 at 7:48 pm
Winners little brother is a straight A student. He’s like 8, obviously he’s getting the hook up bc of his big bro or maybe they hoping he’ll be NATIONAL CHAMPION too.
March 30th, 2015 at 7:51 pm
^^^^sarcasm^^^^
March 30th, 2015 at 7:52 pm
WS99…his little brother gets free candy bars at Winn Dixie!
March 30th, 2015 at 7:55 pm
87
Funny my daughter gets free cookies at publix. OMFG I have a thug criminal for a daughter and she’s only 3. (Tears) where did I go wrong? I raised her better than that. She’s so immature!
March 30th, 2015 at 7:56 pm
Tim Brown had really nailed it. Tampa isn’t a football town. Go to RJ on Sunday and you see plenty of people who couldn’t care less about the team. Win or lose, they’re always there, they don’t care, because the game is a social event more than a SPORT EVENT… huge difference.
So no, most fans aren’t smart at all, at least when it comes to football. Most fans don’t know jack s*** about football, myself included. Example: Gruden. I was one of the very few who almost cried when he was fired and we’ve basically sucked ever since. But hey, the local media and a horde of fans wanted him gone…
Truly, I think the Glazer are the main factor for the Bucs’ current – poor – state. I think they should step aside and be owners. Hire a president and let him make decisions such as who the GM should be and who the coach should be. The Schiano hiring showed that the Glazer are as clueless as most fans.
March 30th, 2015 at 7:56 pm
It’s funny to picture the glazers in a room with Licht.
All of the giggles with none of the devil’s lettuce
March 30th, 2015 at 7:56 pm
Ha ha ha ha!
March 30th, 2015 at 7:59 pm
My son got the free hookup at Publix until he was about 15 because all the ladies in the bakery have known him since he was 5.
March 30th, 2015 at 8:00 pm
Elle Says:
March 30th, 2015 at 7:56 pm
“Tim Brown had really nailed it. Tampa isn’t a football town. Go to RJ on Sunday and you see plenty of people who couldn’t care less about the team. Win or lose, they’re always there, they don’t care, because the game is a social event more than a SPORT EVENT… huge difference.”
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO true. It aggravates the hell out of me. Texting one another, shopping for merchandise, chilling out smoking one cig after another etc etc. THIS IS WHILE THE GAME IS GOING ON!
March 30th, 2015 at 8:01 pm
I could never put my finger on it but it makes sense now. It’s more about status than passion. Makes sense why they would hate on Winner.
March 30th, 2015 at 8:03 pm
Luther
Your son should be in jail right next to my little princess. Where did we go wrong?
March 30th, 2015 at 8:04 pm
WS99….any day now she will be throwing out gang signs..
Then you’ve really got a problem on your hands.
March 30th, 2015 at 8:05 pm
@st pete
I’m very aware of what went on at UNC that’s my favorite college bball team. I’m not not naive to think that it just went on in the Football program as they claim. OTL did a great peice on Rashad Mccants former UNC guard playing over seas now where he basically implicated Roy Williams also. So I’m up to speed what went on in Chapel Hill.
I’m just getting the feeling that you think Jameis isn’t smart because he’s not the most articulate person you’ve ever heard. He made a few bonehead mistakes that he’s probably not proud of but most young people have also. Its just that he’s under a microscope that most kids aren’t. You can call him ‘immature’ for the mistakes but I wouldn’t say he’s “not smart” because you’re not looking forward to his interviews.
And I heard some clips from game changers that airs tomorrow. Please cut him some slack when he’s speaking into the cameras because its clearly not his thing
March 30th, 2015 at 8:10 pm
“Win or lose, they’re always there, they don’t care, because the game is a social event more than a SPORT EVENT… huge difference.”
^^^
This is why college football is a million times better.
And whatever you do, stay away from Rays games. Bunch of zombies. The Lightning are different though.
March 30th, 2015 at 8:11 pm
Idk why but my response is being moderated. Lol
March 30th, 2015 at 8:13 pm
87
She’s tattooing me as we speak.
March 30th, 2015 at 8:15 pm
@87
Still selling after the sale has been made…..that usually spells trouble….but in your case….just obsessive compulsive behavior…..You are ready for Nurse Rached….
March 30th, 2015 at 8:16 pm
The Glazers read not only this website but the comments. Hence the poor decisions they have made over the past 7 years. Outside of here who really “hated” Gruden. No one, this site has more power than it should with people like “realist” that have no NFL knowledge and post as if they were someone with it. Some people just come on to bash because they are cowards (see above name) but wish we had more patience. Now we are the laughing stock of the league.
March 30th, 2015 at 8:21 pm
I know why
Were you part of the josh mccown supporters or the Michael Johnson supports or even tedford? Some fans just blindly support the regime – no questions asked. Then you have fans, let’s call them realists that actually have a clue and ain’t skred to say what they think. But again who can critize a 2-14 team? It takes time!!!
March 30th, 2015 at 8:22 pm
Off topic but…assuming the top defensive ends are taken early, the Bucs should draft DE/OLB Eli Harold out of virginia. Basically he has surprising strength and great speed to be a 4-3 defensive end.
Harold may be the last decent option that could actually start. Hopefully We can still get Tra Jackson or Cedric Ogbuehi in the third.
March 30th, 2015 at 8:42 pm
@iamkingsu
Very reasonable request. I cut him slack on his “youthful” mistakes and like Lovie am ready to give him a 4th or 5th chance or whatever that number may be.
And I do not accuse him of being a cement head. But I’m not going to roll with the 87’s and praise his brains when he hasn’t really demonstrated that much.
And I certainly cannot roll with ERick and equate his sooon to be found millions to his intelligence.
A sword cuts both ways. I can accept the Winstonites pointing out that if it wasn’t for Fameis athletic achievements the rape allegations would not havaee been news. That’s a simple fact. Women are actually raped on college campuses all the time without any blowback. Not that Fameis did it!!! Just that if he wasn’t a famous jock the allegation would have never gotten so much publicity.
On the other side of the coin…if FAmeis wasn’t a great football player he would just be another face in the crowd academically.
It’s not that I’m against Fameis…..or consider him illiterate of dumb….just that it’s time for “some” posters to get up off their knees and stop fluffing Fameis.
But then again I do not admire athletes for anything other than their physical abilities. The Rays Chris Archer is bery bright well read and a true Renaissance man. I admire Archer for his pitching ability as well as his off field achievements and his constant pursuit of learning. I admire Fameis as a great football player and that’s about it. Not putting him down just that he’s not Chris s Archer or Richard Sherman.
March 30th, 2015 at 8:42 pm
HMMMM Interesting, were holding a private workout with yet another spread option quarterback Anthony Boone, I think that makes 3 spread option quarterbacks now… looking more and more like Mariota. http://www.sportstalkflorida.com/bucs-to-hold-private-workout-with-duke-qb-anthony-boone/
March 30th, 2015 at 8:43 pm
And incase you need to see, runs similar offense to Mariota. http://draftbreakdown.com/video/anthony-boone-vs-troy-2014/
March 30th, 2015 at 8:44 pm
Once again….the scripted answer……Of course the fans are smart…..same thing as “the customer is always right”……what else would they say…..”our fans are idiots, so we will just do what we feel like”
March 30th, 2015 at 8:49 pm
Its no coincidence that every single quarterback view brought in for a interview or a workout have all been spread option quarterbacks, you Winston lovers might wanna brace yourself for disappointment.
March 30th, 2015 at 8:55 pm
“Coach Lovie Smith confirmed what many have assumed for weeks: Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston is the ‘leader’ to become the Bucs’ No. 1 overall draft pick.”
That is a quote from the times. But you go ahead and believe whatever you want.
March 30th, 2015 at 8:57 pm
There is a bigger story here with the interviews of late round QB prospects….perhaps we are going to carry 3 QBs or considering two rookies if Glennon is traded….???
March 30th, 2015 at 9:02 pm
Superman
I’m prepared. Gas can n lighter ready! I kid, of course. Muhhhahahaha
March 30th, 2015 at 9:06 pm
I more confident than ever that the pick is Winston. Than ever.
March 30th, 2015 at 9:10 pm
More proof that St.Pete BF talks out of his a$$. Stanford doesn’t compromise it’s academic standards for athletics. Yes, some schools do but Stanford is one of the few who don’t. Jameis took AP classes in high school and had a 4.0. I don’t understand why it is so hard to believe he got into Stanford on his own merits. Umm… I wonder why?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/aliciajessop/2013/01/10/the-secrets-behind-stanfords-emergence-as-a-football-powerhouse/
March 30th, 2015 at 9:23 pm
SuperSam Says:
March 30th, 2015 at 8:49 pm
Its no coincidence that every single quarterback view brought in for a interview or a workout have all been spread option quarterbacks, you Winston lovers might wanna brace yourself for disappointment.
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Could it be that all the top talent all come from spread option offenses? I read where a few coaches are not very happy about it because they have to teach them how to call plays and huddle. There are no Daffy Duck, Mickey Mouse signs in the NFL because they actually have to think for themselves. You go on believing that these guys are the future but they really aren’t.
Winston is the pick even though you guys refuse to see it. Little Puppy even started a moratorium on discussing Jameis Winston because as he says…FSU Fan is unbearable. Truth is, he wants Mariota and can’t handle the crushing truth for him and his fans.
I have read things on the web from Winston haters that would make a seasoned sailor blush but you generally don’t hear that kind of vitriol directed at Mariota.
March 30th, 2015 at 9:24 pm
Per NFL.com
For the doubters :
“NFL Media analyst Lance Zierlein says Winston is his No. 5 quarterback in the past five years, saying Winston would’ve been the first quarterback selected in the 2013 and 2014 drafts; the third quarterback in 2012, behind Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III; the second quarterback in 2011, behind Newton; and the second in 2010 behind Bradford. Bradford, Luck, and Newton were No. 1 overall picks, and Griffin went second overall. ”
“Fellow analyst Gil Brandt calls Winston “an elite talent” and one of the top 10 quarterback talents of the past decade.”
March 30th, 2015 at 9:26 pm
@87 I think that guy is nuts. No way Winston should be rated that low.
March 30th, 2015 at 9:27 pm
Yes Joel most Bucs are smart and realize ownership is far more interested in Man U. Its damn sure tuff being a Bucs fan and watch them sh*t bed at every turn. Go get Mariota.
March 30th, 2015 at 9:28 pm
“You’ve got JaMarcus Russell on the bust end and then you’ve got Ben Roethlisberger as the ultimate of what he could be with his skill set,” Jeremiah said. “I’m not concerned with him being another JaMarcus Russell.
“He loves football, and he’s very, very bright.”
Brandt agrees with the “very bright” scouting report.
“The guy has above-average intelligence,” Brandt says. “With a quarterback, that’s where it starts.”
March 30th, 2015 at 9:31 pm
If Jameis hadn’t gone through all the off field BS, Im thinking the polls would be more like JW-80%, MM-20%. I use to be on the MM bandwagon because i didn’t like JW off field stuff, but now I’m all about JW because i think he’s the better QB and I realized the bucs have been in the dumps for a decade and I’m not looking for a boy scout face of the franchise, I’m looking for a leader to come in and win
March 30th, 2015 at 9:36 pm
Enjoyed reading your posts today StPeteBucsFan and your perspective.
Speaking as a fan since 1977 and a season ticket holder since 1980, I have to disagree with Glazer.
Although I am sure there are some cities with enlightend fans, I don’t consider the Bucs fans to be a part of that small group.
Time after time I will be in the stadium and watch fans try to start The Wave when our offense has the ball. When they aren’t doing that, they are yelling and screaming for the team to score when they are in the Red Zone.
I mean even the notorious Trent Dilfer commented on it once on NFL films.
And if this site is any indication of a smart fan, then the brain activity of a lot of these posts are close to flat lining.
You don’t have to be an eternal optimists to qualify as a true fan, but when you continue to post one negative post after another after another even when the main story is positive, then I really question not only your intelligence but also any claim that you are a true fan of this team.
March 30th, 2015 at 9:54 pm
The national Fan Mock Draft poll results were JW-93% MM-5% Williams-2%
I suppose that is more who do you think the Bucs should (national) draft oppose to who do you (local) like better.
March 30th, 2015 at 9:58 pm
BTW- This was conducted by the NFL Network. One would imagine a more sophisticated audience.
March 30th, 2015 at 10:08 pm
I don’t get all of the comparisons to Jamarcus Russell. Besides being coached by Jimbo Fisher, I see two different players. Winston is a hard worker and dedicated leader from what I read. Jamarcus is a diva who expected stardom handed to him. Kind of a shame he would rather use drugs and party rather than use his amazing talents to be an NFL quarterback.
I see Winston as a leader that will give our team the kick in the @ss it needs come training camp.
March 30th, 2015 at 11:45 pm
I know why-“the glazers not only read JoeBuc, but also the comments”
Obviously haven’t been reading my comments- or we’d have won several additional SuperBowls by now!!! Lol
March 31st, 2015 at 12:28 am
Wow. How the mighty Mariota has fallen? I have no hate for the guy. In fact, if we called his name at #1, I could think of worse moves, but it is amazing how far he falls in many “expert” mock drafts. Depending on whose draft it is, he goes anywhere from #2 to the Titans all the way to #17 to the Chargers yet JW is unanimous #1.
March 31st, 2015 at 1:20 am
For all the Mariota fans out there I have a question, was it the scheme that made Mariota great, or Mariota that made the scheme great? Many QBs have come and gone out of the Oregon offense, but they’ve still manged to keep winning because it has been the scheme, not the QB, that has made that program so successful. QBs like Jeremiah Masoli and Dennis Dixon had great numbers and success under Chip Kelly’s offense, but once they were taken out of it they were sub par QBs at best. I believe the same will happen to Mariota unless he runs a similar style offense in the NFL. I mean seriously, that way that Oregon offense simplified things for the QB, Mariota could have left his brain on the sidelines and still been successfully. They were literally one read plays, were all he had to do was get the ball out to the guy it was designed to go to and let the play itself do the rest. It wont be that easy in the NFL.
On the other hand, there was nothing spectacular about the offense that Winston was running, but he made it spectacular. It was the same offense E.J. Manuel ran the year before Winston took over, and he did not have nearly the amount of success that Winston did, and thats because he wasn’t nearly as talented as Winston. The same offense Manuel was running, Winston won a championship with it.
People are going to look at numbers and 40 times and things like that, and there going to come away thinking Mariota is better than Winston. But they are not taking looking at the whole picture, or what really matters. And that is Winston is a better QB (not athlete) than Mariota.
March 31st, 2015 at 1:39 am
if you guys think we are going to draft winston and go to the playoffs next year you are crazy! we need a qb, lt, lg, c, rg, lde, rde, mlb and a new running back as well. that’s like 9 starters this team needs to even sniff the playoffs. what makes you think we are going to pick anybody good in round 2 ? only good player in round 2 in like the past 10 years has been l.daVID. Are scouts are terrible plan and simple.
March 31st, 2015 at 2:03 am
What about the pulse of the fans after we cut Derrick Brooks, Fired Tony Dungy in the pouring rain while trying to cut a backdoor deal with Parcells, etc. etc.
March 31st, 2015 at 6:59 am
Glazers are just doing their best to win and it hasn’t worked out lately. It’ll come back around. Some of you need to calm down. They hired sound football guys now and gave them a checkbook. What more do you want?
March 31st, 2015 at 8:27 am
If the Glazers are smart they will trade out. We have too many holes for a marginal QB to save us. We still need a boatload of O linemen, a Mike linebacker, and for the love of god some one to rush a QB. Watching McCoy try to push 3 guys backwards is getting old….
March 31st, 2015 at 10:22 am
Smith said the Bucs are likely to select a quarterback and have spent extensive time with Winston and Mariota.
“Odds are, we’re going to go a certain direction. But we don’t have to make this decision and you wait until you have to,” Smith said. “We would feel very comfortable, though, picking one of the (quarterbacks).”
Smith reiterated his praise for both Winston and Mariota, who have both been to One Buc Place for in-person visits and meetings with top team officials, including the Glazer family.
“We realize how important that position is and very seldom do you get a chance to have your pick of the litter like that,” Smith said of the Bucs holding the No. 1 pick in the draft for the first time since 1987.
Smith said his research of Winston has reinforced the things he likes about him as an NFL prospect and a potential team leader.
“Everything checks out on him, too … the guy can complete every throw,” Smith said. “A lot has been said about his football intelligence. He’s just a leader.”
Mariota has been criticized for a quieter disposition, but Smith said he was vocal and confident in his meetings with the team.
“People say he’s quiet. He hasn’t been quiet around us. Bright, confident,” Smith said. “Of course we know about his athletic ability. We’ve done a lot of research on him and he’s going to be a good player in the league.”
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If you guys read that and think that means we are drafting Winston you guys are special.
March 31st, 2015 at 11:28 am
“My son got the free hookup at Publix until he was about 15 because all the ladies in the bakery have known him since he was 5.”
uh-oh, if it happened more than once, charactermatters will judge your son as a bad person!
March 31st, 2015 at 12:17 pm
@Keepitreal says:
Mariota is to meek for NFL!! He will have trouble with the huddle for gods sake. He calls plays to himself at home…want a dance instructor Mariota is you man..a LEADER Winston.
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Hahahaha, fans are smart. The statement above clearly shows that most fans a far from smart when it comes to what they think about other players and how they’ll do in the NFL.
I’m sorry @keepitreal not trying to single you out, they were plenty of other really stupid statements like: we should have signed Hardy, or Winston smart because he had a high IQ in high school and college.
In the signing of Hardy… We don’t need a loser like this guy. A man who beats women is bitch made and in my opinion should not be aloud to play football ever. Stupid fan.
In Winston being smart because of GPA… This is the most common way to judge an athlete on intelligence. First of all I’m not saying he’s not smart, because I don’t really know. I don’t know the guy and I’m sure no one on this blog does either. My point is, to say he’s smart because of GPA in high school and college is ridiculous. If he wasn’t a star athlete then GPA is a good measurement of intelligence, but when you’re a star athlete in America schools they make it so you keep a really good GPA because you make them money on the field and that’s the most important thing to them. Not getting a good education but playing the sport you’re good at and making them money. Trust me I know this system well from experience with myself and family members. In America we have our priorities mixed up when it comes to sports and education. In the big schools (eg. Florida ST.) sports always comes first!
Finally, as for your case @Keepitreal it always puzzles me when I read fans on here talking about how they know how good or bad Winston or Mariota are going to be in the NFL. Really? You all know? Have you seen them play in the NFL yet and be successful or unsuccessful? Let me answer that for ya, No! So instead of grading these players now because of what they did in college, which by the way has nothing to do with how well they’ll perform at the NFL level. Let’s just shut up and wait. I can understand if you like one better than the other, but seriously you don’t have to make false judgements on a player to make you feel better about the one you like.
Fans are not smart.