Winston Earns Kurt Warner’s Football Blessing
March 24th, 2015
The football men, not the analyst types, keep lining up to anoint Jameis Winston as the No. 1 quarterback in the NFL Draft.
It just so happens, the Bucs have the No. 1 overall pick and desperately need a quarterback.
Speaking this afternoon at an event during the NFL Owners meetings, Super Bowl-winning QB Kurt Warner, who works for NFL Network, didn’t mince words when talking about Winston the football player.
Tampa Tribune scribe eye-RAH! Kaufman Twittered out the strong take. “I believe Jameis, from a football standpoint, is by far the most advanced quarterback in this class,” Warner said.
Warner is not new to the Winston bandwagon, but this was the strongest Xs and Os support he’s given to date.
Joe suspects that trend will continue — as more film is scrutinized of Winston and the rest of the 2015 QBs.
March 24th, 2015 at 6:08 pm
If this were a fight they would have stopped it long ago.
Its not even remotely close.
Go Jaboo.
March 24th, 2015 at 6:11 pm
Bucs may be offered quite a lot for the right to pick Winston!
March 24th, 2015 at 6:16 pm
Not really saying much, we already knew Winston came from a pro style offense, tell me something we don’t know. That’s not the issue, the issue is the dude is a loose cannon that could set this team back for a very long time if he makes one bad mistake again. I don’t think the football skill level is all that much different between him and Mariota as far as on the field. Now off the field is awhole nother story, Licht just said on ESPN the pick will be based upon “comfort” level. I think Lovie is very comfortable with Mariota.
March 24th, 2015 at 6:18 pm
I can’t wait to see what the mariota supporters say about Warner. You know like…….what does he know or the old his take is not valid because he is not a first ballot hall of famer. I like how he says Winston is by far the most advance.
March 24th, 2015 at 6:20 pm
What? A devout Christian supporting Winston?
Say it ain’t so Joe?
What about all the Christians that regularly post here that are
giving up their tickets if the Bucs select this heathen?
Please save us Baby Jesus from this Anti-Christ!
🙂
Welcome to Tampa Bay Jameis.
Oh, and all you fake Christians can go straight to Hell!
March 24th, 2015 at 6:26 pm
@Dave Peach He gave him some credit about his on the field play, I didn’t hear a word come out of his mouth about off the field. Maybe you should think before you type.
March 24th, 2015 at 6:27 pm
Supersam says
I don’t think the football skill level is all that much different between him and Mariota as far as on the field.
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Yet you have someone else with film study knowledge stating that on the field Winston is by far the best yet you want to continuously say that you think its close. If you want to continue being in denial go right ahead. I just don’t know what you get out of it.
March 24th, 2015 at 6:28 pm
Kurt Warner. What does he know, he’s too old and not even a first ballot hall of famer. He should stick to bagging groceries. 🙂
March 24th, 2015 at 6:28 pm
” Football Standpoint” means I wouldn’t touch him as a off the field guy, but he does have some skills at quarterback. Jamarcus Russell was also “advanced” form a ” football standpoint”.
March 24th, 2015 at 6:29 pm
How about we just ignore all the anti-Winston’s from here on out?
37 days to go and I see no need to even read their posts anymore.
Just skip right over them. You all know who they are…the usual crowd.
I might even stop firing back at them if they come at me with the same old nonsense.
I’m here to talk to people that are excited about our first franchise QB in Bucs history….that and the 2nd round of the draft.
Winston’s pretty much signed sealed and delivered. 🙂
March 24th, 2015 at 6:29 pm
SammyBoy,
Why would I do that?
You never do!
You just spew hatred!
Thoust are going to HELL sayeth The Lord!
March 24th, 2015 at 6:33 pm
Just because mock drafts and a ex qb with a few to many concussion’s says were taking Winston, doesn’t make it true. I go by history and simple facts, history suggesting Lovie will play it safe and take Mariota and facts by looking at our offensive staff hires.
March 24th, 2015 at 6:35 pm
Cause ya know…most of them are as thick as molasses.
I don’t how long it’s going to take for it to dawn on them.
I could be asking that same question to myself 3 weeks from now….
March 24th, 2015 at 6:36 pm
SammyBoy,
You are delusional.
Can you say “Coo-Coo for Cocoa Puffs?”
March 24th, 2015 at 6:36 pm
Hahaha that was actually pretty funny.
March 24th, 2015 at 6:38 pm
Everyone at the owners meeting thinks the Bucs are taking Jameis…
Everyone at the combine thinks the Bucs are taking Jameis…
Every mock draft in the nation has the Bucs taking Jameis….
So why bother with these clowns anymore?
March 24th, 2015 at 6:39 pm
SuperSam Says:
March 24th, 2015 at 6:28 pm
” Football Standpoint” means I wouldn’t touch him as a off the field guy, but he does have some skills at quarterback. Jamarcus Russell was also “advanced” form a ” football standpoint”.
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Last I checked, Russell was not a classroom, film and football junkie. He had the skill set (like mariota) and that is it. Therefore, the Winston and Russell connection is invalid because we already know Winston is a hard worker. And no one ever called Russell advanced from a football standpont. He had talent. What Warner said was winston was by far the most advanced over the other draft eligible qbs. That says an awful lot.
March 24th, 2015 at 6:40 pm
I figure if we ignore them they might go away….
March 24th, 2015 at 6:42 pm
Ah….ah….ah……not EVERYONE 87. 😉
March 24th, 2015 at 6:48 pm
Uh sorry guys but the big time Christian did NOT give Fameis his unqualified support.
He said…” “I believe Jameis, from a football standpoint, is by far the most advanced quarterback in this class,”
Why the need for that qualifier? How many times have your heard that kind of endorsement. Isn’t normally…yeah he’s the best in the class.
I didn’t hear the other endorsements with that qualifier.
This is not to say we shouldn’t draft Fameis first. It is to say that you need to stop being co-dependent and excusing the pattern of self centered immature behavior.
We ALL hope that Fameis has grown up. That his behavior wasn’t indicative of a jerk but rather simply a kid who took a long time to grow up.
I’m on board with drafting Fameis. I certainly would not co-sign for him on any investment that depended on his continued classy behavior. But then it’s the Glazers money not mine. Bring on Saint Jameis!!! He’s just a poor misunderstand young child who got caught in some innocent pranks…numerous innocent pranks.
March 24th, 2015 at 6:49 pm
@87,
I know that is the right thing to do, but there are a few posters that spew such outrageous lies that I can’t contain myself.
March 24th, 2015 at 6:53 pm
Tiny Tim Says:
March 24th, 2015 at 6:27 pm
Supersam says
I don’t think the football skill level is all that much different between him and Mariota as far as on the field.
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Yet you have someone else with film study knowledge stating that on the field Winston is by far the best yet you want to continuously say that you think its close. If you want to continue being in denial go right ahead. I just don’t know what you get out of it.
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Thank you Tiny Tim I was about to reply to that comment but you beat me to it. Mariota is a projection pick simple as that there’s no game film that to allow nfl scouts to easily assess his skills and how they’d translate at the next level. What has he shown on film that would lead anyone to think that he would be better that Geno Smith, RG3, Kaepernik, Alex Smith or other players that had great success in the spread offense and put up huge stats in college but struggled in the nfl. Oregon’s offense is a gimmick and they keep college defenses confused and off balance because of the fast pace that they run plays at. Half the time the defense isn’t even setup and they’re already hiking the ball and running plays. That’s a gimmick and gimmicks are easily figured out and stuffed at the next level. Mariota may end up being the real deal but again based on the current film that we have to go on it’s hard to gauge. You would have to be willing to draft him on pure faith and you don’t draft a player #1 based on a hunch or feeling that you have.
March 24th, 2015 at 6:55 pm
Ah well it was fun while it lasted. No point in keeping the name. I’m pretty sure a QB will be taken, unless a massive trade happens. And I wouldn’t mind that as long as it is a really good deal, but we need a QB. Period.
March 24th, 2015 at 6:55 pm
^^^^
Yep!
What he said.
March 24th, 2015 at 6:56 pm
There are two issues at play here.
Fameis on field ability…even the most ardent MM supporter has to concede that the consensus on Fameis football ability is that he is the best prospect in the draft. I can easily accept that.
The other issue is Fameis moronic behavior off the field. There is a school of thought that goes..Fameis made lots of youthful mistakes but he has finally learned his lesson, just turned 21 and has turned over a new leaf. I’m certainly on board with giving him the benefit of the doubt.
But some people keep trying to minimize what he did. That’s just wrong. Fameis was wrong and he’s brought ALL of this on himself.
Do you Winstonworshipers really believe the “haters” just materialized out of thin air. Perhasp you think the world hates FSU. Some of you wish to believe that the rape alllegations were over something he didn’t do. OK. But the rest…and there are multiple acts are all clearly documented.
Fameis behaved like a cement head. And yes many if not most of us have done things as bad as the charges against Fameis…but not repeatedly. There’s just been an air to him that suggests he’s above the law or any behavorial expectations of society. And you know why? Because he IS!!!!
Again one reason I try not to judge Fameis too harshly is because our society is as guilty as Fameis. We give athletes far too many passes…not just Fameis. He had every reason to believe he was free to do these things. And what has happened. Excuse after excuse.
March 24th, 2015 at 6:57 pm
I meant what Waterboy said.
March 24th, 2015 at 6:58 pm
Kurt Warner gave his blessing? Good enough for me. Do any of you guys have a street named after you in Cedar Rapids, Iowa? Well he does, so that means he is smarter than all of yous!!!
March 24th, 2015 at 7:03 pm
@Waterboy
I don’t see how using an RG3 comparison is a negative thing, unless the comparison is to throwing your teammates under the bus, playing and acting recklessly and selfishly, and being a prima donna.
He was excellent his rookie year (hence ROY), and I would LOVE some of that on the Bucs. Imagine if his injuries and his, ahem, ego didn’t get in the way of his career.
March 24th, 2015 at 7:05 pm
@ 87
No Buc1987, we sincerely need to do more for them. They are like the Japanese who ran into the mountains and thinking after 1945 that the war was still on. The battle is all but won now. We need to help them adjust to the truth. They may not believe it now but they too will one day cheer Winston on.
They fought the good fight. Let us embrace them into the fold. One day we will all reunite.
March 24th, 2015 at 7:10 pm
Generally football people talk about football. Like Kurt Warner.
But he did not follow it up with “but I wouldnt draft him cause he shot a bb gun and cussed”
Perhaps the man thought it was unimportant.
March 24th, 2015 at 7:16 pm
@WalkdaPlank
Well if you like RG3 he could probably be easily acquired for a cheap bag of potato chips because they’re ready to drop him in Washington. The only reason they haven’t moved on from him yet is because of all the picks they gave up to get him. BTW he’s a great example of what happens to QB’s that try to use their 4.4 40 speed in the nfl.
March 24th, 2015 at 7:21 pm
Eric
Thanks for making my point. I was thinking more about 87 when I posted about the enablers and apologists.
cause he shot a bb gun and cussed”
Really? That’s all he did. I thought he got suspended from the baseball team for something. How many FSU baseball players have been suspended in the past ten years for something other than academics?
Cussed? What did he say. Damn? Sh!t? FU? Or scream out F her in the P?
When he “cussed” what was going on at FSU and in Fameis life? Oh that’s right he was being investigated for rape. Innocent or not would YOU be smart enough to not yell F her in the P after a woman accused you of rape. While you and by extension as the “face of the FSU franchise” were under investigation. And so what? Jimbo overreacted by suspending Fameis in one of the most critical regular season games…Conference title on the line?
Stop with minimizing the moronic behavior. It doesn’t reflect well on you.
Much better off to say NOTHING…or at least like 87 try and sell us on the fact that Fameis has grown up and turned over a new leaf. What he DID was amazingly stupid, thoughtless, and disrespectful of his U, coach and teammates!
Whether it was Fameis or any athlete…whether is was for cussing or farting in mixed company…ANY violation that gets the team leader suspended for a game that decides their conference chamnpionship in ANY sport at ANY U. is not indicative of good leadership.
March 24th, 2015 at 7:28 pm
@StPete,
I agree with a lot of what you say about JW; society is partially to blame, he’s brought this on himself, there is a pattern of poor decisions, he sees himself as above the rules.
On another level I disagree. In every instance he has been penalized just as a normal person would. Paid his fine and served community service for stealing the crab legs, just like you or I would have had to do. He paid his share of the damages for the BB gun incident. Might have caught a bit of a break here, or maybe not. I don’t think the landlord could prove anything…eviction without the return of a deposit was the likely outcome for a normal tenant. Suspended for saying something everybody else says? Ok, if his celebrity helped him in other instances it certainly hurt him in this one.
I’ll point out, none of his headlines are of similar nature. He’s not a repeat abuser, or thief, or vandal. I’d be more concerned if he had multiple shoplifting incidents, or repeated accusations of violence, or multiple drug related incidents. He doesn’t. His pattern is that of making headlines, but he has not displayed a pattern of a particular problem. To me, that suggests he is (or has been) learning.
March 24th, 2015 at 7:29 pm
@Waterboy
Nope I don’t like RG3. Again, big ego, reckless play and attitude. But damn could he play football. Do you remember what he did to the Bucs, in the 4th quarter, with messed up communication? That was something special, and I hated him for it. If only he wasn’t a prima donna, knew how to slide, and when he was hurt he would still be neck and neck with Luck IMO. But he has all those problems so like you said, he’s worth about a bag of chips.
Mariota doesn’t have those problems. And I fail to see how being fast is a bad thing. It’s how you use your speed. Just like being slow doesn’t make you Brady or Manning, as long as yiu know how to throw, like Winston does.
March 24th, 2015 at 7:34 pm
Its not even a close race people. Jameis on the field is twice as good as Mariota, and im not talking stats. Winstons has instincts and foresight during a play that cant be coached into Mariota. Mariota runs fast and had a great college career throwing short passes and letting his skill guys do most of the work.
It’s not his fault but history has not been kind to his type of skill set in the NFL. If the pick isnt Winston I probably won’t be watching much on Sundays until a new GM and Head Coach are hired. This is coming from a guy living in Iowa, so there’s no FSU homerism behind my opinion.
March 24th, 2015 at 7:34 pm
Did SuperSam really say “awhole nother.” All your points are now invalid.
March 24th, 2015 at 7:54 pm
The debate over Winston’s character is getting very redundant and tired. It will not be sufficiently answered for quite some time because it will depend entirely on Winston’s behavior going forward.
The same can be said for the debate over the two QBs on field skills….we will see both of them in action for two different teams and even that could take some time.
If the Bucs are satisfied on both areas enough to draft Winston, I will be fully supportive going forward.
I am resigned to the strong likelihood that Winston will be the pick.
If that is the case, we will all need to give him the opportunity to prove himself as we do every high draft choice or FA.
Winston supporters, and I will be one, need to understand that he will be under attack from some Buc fans…but in particular fans of Buc opponents. I can only hope that will galvanize Buc fans and players to support him vigorously.
March 24th, 2015 at 7:54 pm
@StPeteBucsfan,
I agree 100% with your first post. Obviously I support Winston, but I’d be lying if I said there wasn’t some concern about his off the field behavior. That doesn’t mean I think he’ll do something stupid, but it’s at least in my thoughts. That’s not ideal, but it is what it is. I feel comfortable enough that he will straighten himself out, but am I going to be shocked if he does do something stupid – of course not. If he does something stupid that hurts this franchise will I regret supporting him – you bet your arse I will!
However, I’m extremely worried about Mariota on the field. I think he can be good, but I don’t know if I really BELIEVE he will be good. I want to believe it, but I really don’t. I can honestly say I’ve probably seen more of him (or at least as much of him) and anyone on this site, and while I think he was a fantastic college player, I have always seen major holes in his game as it relates to the NFL. Number one, he is not a good QB when the defense knows he’s going to throw the ball. I’ve seen minimal improvement in that over the years. A lot of people don’t understand that the Oregon offense is built upon deception and mis-matches. The defense has to honor the run because it is actually a run first offense. This creates one on ones throughout the secondary, which any QB can pick apart (although Mariota has exceptional decision making, so he really excels at it). When he has to become a pure passer (usually on third and longs), he’s actually pretty dreadful. He panics a little in the pocket, and looks highly uncomfortable. To me, that’s going to be a bigger adjustment to him than calling a play or huddling up. If anyone who claims to have seen Oregon play can argue that with me, I’d love to hear someone say otherwise. They won’t, because they know it’s true. Instead, they’ll just say Mariota is great and bash Winston. Seems to be the play.
If I have to make a choice with the #1 pick between a guy that (on the field) can step in with a minimal learning curve or a guy that is more of a project, then I’m going with option #1. That is, as long as I feel comfortable with him off the field. That’s up to Lovie and Licht. I’m not in the interview room, and neither are any of you. However, it sounds like he’s going exceptional, since supposedly no team has taken him off their board. Is he a risk – absolutely, but who isn’t?
March 24th, 2015 at 7:56 pm
Well Mr. Stpetebucs fan we will have to disagree. I view those things you mentioned to be very minimal indeed. Typical college pranks. Lots of Spring Breakers doing the same or worse as we speak.
If im minimizing you are surely sensationalizing. You seem obsessed.
March 24th, 2015 at 7:56 pm
*Sounds like he’s DOING exceptional
March 24th, 2015 at 7:57 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo agrees totally with TBBF”
March 24th, 2015 at 7:59 pm
I have excepted the fact that Winston will probably be the pick although it wouldn’t be mine. Just curious why you hear of 6+teams willing to possibly make these trades to possibly get MM but you hear of no one mentioning they would trade up for JW. Don’t say because they know he’s going to Tampa because we dont. Perfect scenario trade 1st pick to Tennessee for their 1st and second pick. Then trade our 1st pick(#2 from Tennessee) to Cleveland for their 2 1st round picks. Know we have 3 1st round picks and 2 very high 2nd round picks. Now we get our Oline, DE, and can still get a QB (Grayson would be a good fit)
Really think that’s worth more than a gamble on JW. My opinion would like to hear honest intelligent feedback. Preferably without negative thoughtless slander
March 24th, 2015 at 8:02 pm
@Hawaiian
A big concern for me would be if Mariota can stop taking off on 3rd down, he can throw the ball fine, but he likes to run. I don’t necessarily think that is him as much as it was the Oregon offense.
Mariota is a smart kid, I think Jameis will definitely have a better rookie year if both start and both are healthy, but I believe Mariota can learn how to attack an NFL defense and play a more pro style offense quickly, and could very well have a career just as good if not better than a prospect like Winston. But that is just my opinion.
March 24th, 2015 at 8:06 pm
@Eric
Yeah, and you and Joe and countless others thought the same of ol’ Johnny boy. That he was just a college kid doing things kids do in college. Looked what happened, went from Johnny Football to Johnny Clipboard to Johnny Rehab.
I don’t think Winston is the same, as his off field problems haven’t been about overpartying. But his mistakes are just boneheaded. Hopefully that has changed with age.
March 24th, 2015 at 8:09 pm
It’s hard not to like a guy such as Kurt Warner. He represents the epitome of a hard worker who never gave up and never stopped believing in himself. He reached the pinnacle of NFL hopes and dreams after working as a grocery bagger for minimum wage.
The remembrance of that ’99 NFC Championship game STILL hurts. Bucs would have likely easily beaten Tennessee in the Super Bowl if not for Warner’s perfect 30 yard pass to Proehl late in the 4th quarter of the Championship game.
That ’99 Bucs Defense was likely as good as and perhaps better than the celebrated 2002 Defense that rolled to Tampa Bay’s 1st and only Super Bowl win. And Warner beat that incredible defense fair and square (well – Emanual non-catch ruling aside)
So yea – Kurt knows a thing or 2 about perseverance and he knows what exceptional QB play looks like.
March 24th, 2015 at 8:10 pm
@NoQBin 1st
Your trade scenario is reasonable however it requires willing trade partners. If I am Tenn…I sit at #2 and take Mariota (likely pick)……if I am Tenn & Tampa picks Mariota, I try to trade with a team that wants Winston, pick him, or another player.
The only other strategy for Tenn would be to trade for the #1 pick, then trade that pick to someone like the Jets who want Mariota….but that would be tricky and would cost the Jets more to trade up than to trade up to #2 pick.
March 24th, 2015 at 8:10 pm
Not a question, Winston is the most pro-ready QB in this draft! However, it’s not what everyone is questioning about this kid.
Although McShay is an over glorified anchor imo, he nails what he wrote today about Winston:
“But part of the reason there isn’t more separation between the two (Winston and Mariota) has to do with Winston’s well-documented behavioral issues. The team that drafts him is going to need to be comfortable with his past off-field issues, his maturity level and whether he’s generally ready to handle being the face of an NFL franchise.”
March 24th, 2015 at 8:23 pm
@NoQBin 1st,
I’ll give you a few counter points. First of all, why does everyone seem to forget New Orleans was (allegedly) trying to trade Brees to us for our #1 pick? I can’t wrap my head around why people continue to ignore that, yet believe every rumor imaginable about Mariota? I’ve asked this question 5 different occasions, and I’ve yet to get even one response. It just gets ignored, and then someone else brings up all the people (allegedly) trying to get Mariota.
Second, It’s early. We aren’t making any trades with anyone now, and neither is Tennessee. If a trade does happen, it’s probably going to be on draft day. It’s way too early in the game, this is the time of smokescreens. Let’s talk in late April and see what’s happening.
Third, how do you know nobody is calling about the #1 pick to get Jameis? Believe it or not, what gets exposed to the media isn’t on purpose, and is usually leaked. It could be leaked by anyone, including Mariota’s agent. Let’s see what really happens, because realistically it wouldn’t shock me if Mariota fell to the middle of the first round. Even if we pass on Winston, I don’t see him making it out of the top 2.
Finally, it is widely conceived that we are picking Winston. You can say it’s not true all you want, but it really is. Aside from Andrew Luck’s year, I can’t remember a time where the mock drafts were this unanimous, especially this far away from draft day. I guarantee you every team is at least of the belief that Jameis is going #1 to us, and it would take a king’s ransom to have that pick from us. I don’t think too many teams want and are able to make that happen. Hell, even Chip Kelly said he won’t mortgage the future on Mariota, and I’m pretty sure he has a picture of him next to his night stand.
This organization and it’s fans are sick and damn tired of project QB’s. We are sick of “good fit” QB’s. We are sick of over the hill QB’s. We are sick of “system QB’s”. We are sick of game manager QB’s. We are sick of mediocre QB’s, because that’s pretty much all we’ve ever had. Now more so than ever, you can’t win like that. The days of Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson are over. Rear view mirror baby. There’s no exceptions. You MUST have a franchise QB to win in this league, period. All the BS in the world that anyone can write won’t change that fact.
March 24th, 2015 at 8:24 pm
Eric
A couple of simple questions. If a young student athlete is suspended from two different sports team in two years that’s “very minimal indeed”?.
If a team leader is so thoughtless he gets suspended from a game that determined the conference championship…”that’s very minor indeed”?
Are you suggesting that pointing out a leader getting suspended twice is sensationlizing it. I didn’t suspend Fameis. Jimbo did. Did Jimbo “sensationalize” Fameis behavior.
@TBBF Of course you are correct! Fameis behavior has been debated to death as have the differing skill sets of Fameis and MM. And you also correct that only time will truly settle these debates.
I’m not so much interested in the actual debate as some posters reactions to the debates and their perceptions of Fameis transgressions as “pranks” or a college kid acting out.
But apologies to you and Pablo. Yeah we’ve whipped this dead horse for awhile. Sadly another month to go!!!!
March 24th, 2015 at 8:41 pm
@StPete,
Just playing devil’s advocate a little, but it’s entirely feasible that if he wasn’t Jameis Winston, he wouldn’t have been suspended at all. Jimbo got ridiculous amounts of pressure from the outside to suspend him. He even tried to initially suspend him for only a half, but everyone freaked out. So while I agree with your overall point, the fact of the matter is Jimbo didn’t really agree with the suspension of a game.
March 24th, 2015 at 8:41 pm
Yeah Stpetebucsfan in the overall scheme of things. Very minimal.
i did worse in college and know many others who did.
But I’m sure you never did a thing.
Your correct in your nickname. He is Fameis. About to become rich.
Heismen. National Champ. Number one pick in the draft. 29-1.
Not too bad. Have fun with that hate.
March 24th, 2015 at 8:45 pm
*sigh*
Some people fail to realize the difference between a “hater” and a doubter. Smh
March 24th, 2015 at 8:49 pm
Eric
I do not “hate” Fameis and in fact I’ve been won over. I support his selection as the number one pick.
I was never the face of a program under investigation for rape. So NO neither me nor my friends did nor could we have done what Fameis did because we were never as athletically successful. Again to those who are given a lot, a lot is expected. I did once have a job that included some notoriety and I would have been fired if I did what he did. Not that I’m a choir boy just aware of how society works and what is expected.
@Hawaiian. You don’t even have to play devil’s advocate. It wasn’t just that it was Fameis…it was because Fameis was still under investigation. Again my position has always been…none of the charges were serious by themselves.
The pattern and the context are what bothers me. If there had not been a rape accusation underway…if there hadn’t been the crab leg suspension…if there hadn’t been the bb gun incident….but see how many IFS begin piling up.
I think all this has actually been good for Fameis. Maybe wishful thinking. But I’m hopeful the fact that he damn near killed his chance to be #1 has made him wake up. I’m also hopeful that everybody will stop giving him a pass so he understands his responsibilities.
March 24th, 2015 at 9:47 pm
Stpete
With all due love and respect you may be disconnected from college kids and what they do now adays. i just seen a video on a popular video site where the interviewer was asking spring breakers “what’s the most ratchet thing they’ve done during spring break? (Ratchet means crazy or wild) you would be appalled especially if you feel that FHRIP is offensive. Regrettably that is so far down the list of worrisome behavior it not even funny. I must admit that my generation has done an absolutely awful job raising our kids. If I see one more 4 year old girl tweaking I think I’ll lose it.
In no way shape or form do we measure up to your generations values. We have the Internet, gay marriage, legal marijuana, molly, twerking, 16 and pregnant, honey boo boo, my mama and me both pregnant, Maury. And the list goes on and on. Rather than investing your energy in worrying about “stuff” pray for us. We need all the prayers we can get.
Sincerely,
The me generation aka the iGeneration
March 24th, 2015 at 9:52 pm
Now as for Kurt Warner. If you watched the combine you saw/heard warner drilling over Winston. He even had to hold back from correcting (mc shay?) when talking about mariotas mechanics specifically planting the back foot.
Either way I’m more than positive that chip kelly has advised Mariota that he doesn’t want to play in TB probably for the same reason kelly didn’t want to coach in TB.
March 24th, 2015 at 9:53 pm
Drilling=drooling
March 24th, 2015 at 9:59 pm
Here’s one thing that impresses me about Winston. He gets blasted on social media, specifically on Instagram, yet he takes it all in stride. He doesn’t respond to fans in a negative manner, delete his account or stop posting. He just thanks god for his blessings and keeps doing his thing. In this respect I think he can teach some of our leaders (cough cough gmc) how to handle themselves. Wow imagine that, did I just suggest Winston can teach gmc how to behave, lol. It’s true though, reality is stranger than fiction.
March 24th, 2015 at 10:14 pm
This Vinston as you call him: He shall be quite proficient as quarterback
for your amusing American team. His instincts are like ze panther when in
the dark he prepares to strike….but he haas a little uncontrolability
about him, no?
March 24th, 2015 at 10:17 pm
A devout Christian knows God is all about forgiveness and he welcomes all to have a relationship with him, think you’ll be forgiven for your sins. Your the reason why people won’t go to church. Christians like you disown their son when they find our he’s gay. The words Christian does but mean free from mistakes or sin. Damn don’t know anything about football or religion, lol useless
Sincerely yours,
A Sinner
March 24th, 2015 at 10:36 pm
@No qb
To answer your question no one is trying to trade up for Winston for the same reason no one was even attempting to try to trade up for Luck but there were several teams trying to trade up for RG3.
March 24th, 2015 at 10:39 pm
I’m so old I remember when Joe Namath was suspended from playing in the Sugar Bowl his Junior season at Alabama. That was huge at the time.
He got so drunk he wondered into the street to direct traffic.
I only bring that up cause nobody remembers that about Joe. And he overcame it to be a Hall of Famer. Or maybe he kept doing it and became a Hall of Famer. and he was surely the face of the franchise for the jets.
Hopefully people will forget what happened with Jameis if he has a good career.
Geez I hope so I’m tired of hearing about it.
March 24th, 2015 at 11:17 pm
Sorry, since Joe is responsible for every word on these pages, Joe can’t let your comment through with all those accusations stated as facts. –Joe
March 25th, 2015 at 6:02 am
SuperSam Says:
March 24th, 2015 at 6:28 pm
” Football Standpoint” means I wouldn’t touch him as a off the field guy, but he does have some skills at quarterback. Jamarcus Russell was also “advanced” form a ” football standpoint”.
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Sorry, but not at all. Russell came out of college considered very raw but physically superior in just about every way, to every QB to come down the pipe in a long time 6’6, 250 lbs plus, huge arm, decent mechanics, good mobility… it was the mental side that Russell was clearly lacking…not just the mental side of life, but football as well. He was a caretaker in college that had a huge bowl game in his final game that saw his stock skyrocket despite arriving to the Combine looking like a an OG at 265 lbs.
March 28th, 2015 at 9:01 am
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