Jameis Watch: Staunch Defense
March 5th, 2015
Crab-legs-stealing, BB-gun-shooting, obscenity-hollering, Heisman-Trophy-winning, former national champion Jameis Winston, the pride of Florida State University, continues to look like a much better quarterback prospect than Mike Glennon and Josh McCown.
It’s Joe’s daily nugget on the Jameis Watch, celebrating the best quarterback ever to wear No. 5 in the state of Florida.
Jeff Cameron has had it. The long-time voice of Tallahassee sports radio threw down the gauntlet. Hater of Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston? You are going to have to go through Cameron.
The St. Petersburg native and Lakewood High School graduate (Cameron will occasionally remind listeners he played high school football with William Floyd), Cameron went off earlier this week on what he perceives as a campaign of hate and smear by misguided folks who actually believe Marcus Mariota is a better fit for the Bucs than Winston.
Heard on WTSM-FM 97.9 in Tallahassee, the diatribe came when Cameron discussed Winston’s visit to One Buc Palace.
Cameron, a hard-core Bucs fan, believes Winston is the elixir for what ails the Bucs. He also is of the mind that those who don’t want Winston quarterbacking the Bucs have hidden agendas that have nothing to do with the Bucs winning football games.
“You have a franchise quarterback in Tampa Bay” if the Bucs draft Winston, Cameron said. “That’s never happened. In this history of the Tampa Bay Bucs, [they] have never had a franchise quarterback.
“Jameis Winston is that guy. Florida State fans and diehard Buccaneers fans who desperately want to see a franchise quarterback, an upper-tier top-five player at that position, the most important position in the game. In Tampa, they are excited. The Gators [and others] think that is a colossal mistake.”
Cameron then suggested that the anti-Winston crowd can’t possibly be watching football if they believe Mariota is a more seasoned NFL prospect. Cameron more than once hinted Mariota is the second-coming of Alex Smith and noted teams that draft college spread-option quarterbacks high in the draft often rue what they sow.
“Speculation is that the Bucs are selling Jameis Winston to the Tampa Bay area,” Cameron said. “It is a wise idea for the Bucs to do that.”
March 5th, 2015 at 12:07 pm
“a campaign of hate and smear by misguided folks ”
We see it day in and day out here on JBF comments threads.
These idiots are digging themselves quite a hole by continually hating on our future star quarterback. There’s gonna be a lot of “new” names popping up around here come draft day – LOL
March 5th, 2015 at 12:12 pm
I used to be part of the crowd that wanted Mariota, but now I feel it’d be smarter to go with Winston, especially considering we’d have to completely re-tool the offense if we took Mariota. The pieces we have now at the skill positions fit Winston perfectly.
March 5th, 2015 at 12:13 pm
3 Winston articles this early is way to much, way to much. Your trying to hard to sell this guy Joe. He hasn’t taken one snap for the bucs and yet im already sick of this guy.
March 5th, 2015 at 12:13 pm
Pickgrin ….take notice how I pay the “idiots” no mind anymore.
They’re so redundant and childish.
I think Barry is 12 years old.
Robert 7,8,9 thinks the NFL is like Madden and will be a Fins fan at a moments notice.
and on and on….
March 5th, 2015 at 12:13 pm
Must be true coming from a raido guy in Tally who last played football in HS.. No bias there at all and he must be an expert..
March 5th, 2015 at 12:15 pm
@87
Hello kettle meet pot… SMH
March 5th, 2015 at 12:17 pm
Walter…exactly…unless they plan on re-tooling their offense Winston will be the pick. This is something that’s being over-looked by many fans.
There’s so many arrows pointing towards Winston for me that they far outweigh anything anyone can say about Winston the rest of the weigh. I get more confident by the day that they are taking Jameis.
March 5th, 2015 at 12:20 pm
As annoying as the hate mongers are, I have faith that the brass at OBP will base their decision on facts, not on a Reefer Madness level of inaccurate and spiteful hysteria, by a small and desperate fraction of people.
March 5th, 2015 at 12:20 pm
Well stated Mr. Cameron, whoever you are.
Spot on with the Gator fan hatred. Nothing unusual about that though, they are a nasty and delusional bunch.
Lots of them think Tebow should still be in the league.
March 5th, 2015 at 12:21 pm
Jameis Swipe: Stolen Crab legs
Now that would make a great title 😉
If we take Winston, I want him to succeed. But keep in mind…the only thing we’ve seen is verbal assurances. I’m not convinced.
And, stop whining about how people “hate” on him. It’s the consequences of his own actions. The guy has a pattern of behavior and as a result, people mistrust him.
Truthfully, even though I make a few comments here and there, I am 50-50 on his off field stuff. My concerns are the on field issues, and there are plenty that are being ignored around here.
Make a list of faults of him and Mariota, put the lists side by side. You may be surprised…if you are knowledgeable and honest.
And Walter…we would not have to “retool the offense”. That’s a crock. We already need an offensive line. The WRs, TEs and RBs are fine for both styles of offense.
March 5th, 2015 at 12:22 pm
some gator i worked with told me “you can see that Winston has no soul by just looking in his eyes”….
this gator always complains about how half the QBs in the league suck and Tebow deserves their job
March 5th, 2015 at 12:24 pm
@Eric
Not a fan, but Tebow got a bum deal. The massive media frenzy wherever he went prevented teams from even considering him as a potential backup or a developmental project. It was instant controversy.
I’m not saying he would have done well, but he never really got a chance. At worse, he might have been as bad as a Trent Dilfer.
March 5th, 2015 at 12:24 pm
Bonzai…you think Vjax and Evans will do well in the spread???
March 5th, 2015 at 12:31 pm
I like Mariota slightly more than Winston. I’m not sure there is anything wrong with that. I think a QB with a fast release and mobility (also commited to the slide) is something that is more and more valuable. Nobody can deny Alex Smith wasn’t fantastic but he was on a horrific team. Bucs aren’t great either but Ohio State was a great defense and Mariota didn’t perform poorly against them. Oregon lost for 2 reasons: drops, and the defense couldnt stop #15. Florida is a great defense and Winston looked awful. In the NFL you’re not going to get away with 4 picks.
Not saying Winston isn’t going to be great though I’m sure that’s how it will be spun to those with blinders.
March 5th, 2015 at 12:32 pm
As I have told my knucklehead son 1k times…
Life is the consequence of your actions…if you do knuckle-headed things, people will automatically think you’re a knucklehead. This isn’t hating, it’s truth. Until Winston proves me wrong, he’s a knucklehead, I’ll say it again, I’m going to give him a chance to win me over, but if he fails on the field, and literally odds are he will, the bust rate for first round qbs is astronomical, I can accept that, as that’s what happens in the NFL, but if he can’t get on the field because he has failed off the field, for what ever reason, lack of drive/work-ethic, laziness, weight problems, legal issues, whatever…I will not be shocked, only disappointed that all the signs were there but were ignored for expediency.
March 5th, 2015 at 12:35 pm
Of course Jeff Cameron is biased toward Winston, but he speaks the truth. He’s one of the few employees of ESPN who doesn’t sensationalize every little detail in a story – he’s a trusted voice in circles outside of Tallahassee
March 5th, 2015 at 12:40 pm
@Bonzai
I’m not saying that Mariota couldn’t succeed with Evans and Jackson, I’m just saying that they suit Winston’s strengths better than Mariota’s. If we were to take Mariota, we would certainly have to make some adjustments as far as scheme and the type of talent we surround him with. With Winston, as long as you fortify the lines, the options we have in the passing game now work well.
March 5th, 2015 at 12:42 pm
I’ve said before that I admire Winston JBF posters for their staunch defenses of Winston….especially the rape allegations. It is unfortunate that many are anti-Winston instead of pro Mariota as I am….and that is not by a large margin.
Some advice, however to defenders…..ignore the idiots and idiodic comments completely…..they won’t necessarily go away….but you are keeping the subject alive and relevant by answering him.
He doesn’t need defending because if he is our choice…he will have passed the ultimate test of those who matter.
I maintain the the differences in the two in so far as transferrable talent to the NFl isn’t that great…..certainly not great enough to warrant taking unecessary risks on Winston…..but if the Bucs think he is not a risk & is more talented….I’ll be a supporter.
There certainly is some overselling going on!!!
March 5th, 2015 at 12:44 pm
Neither of these guys are Franchise QBs.
Aristotle: “Winston is what he repeatedly does”.
Dating tip #1 from #TheCreepyCrab, Keep feeding her drinks until she passes out. And remember It’s not rape, It’s surprise sex. #Moan=yes
March 5th, 2015 at 12:51 pm
We will be running some spread type plays this year – but with Winston as QB. Winston ran spread throughout high school and was the unanimous best HS blue chip 5 star QB headed to College as a result. And when he starts displaying his effective running skills – many people are gonna be like – “Where the hell did that come from – I thought he was just a slow footed pocket passer”. Wrong! Winston is the total package. He might not win too many foot races running in a straight line – but the dude is a VERY effective situational runner on the football field.
March 5th, 2015 at 12:52 pm
Personally, I find Robert and Barry EXTREMELY entertaining. Like Barry’s post above. Agree with him or not, it’s still funny.
March 5th, 2015 at 12:54 pm
Barry – like you have room to talk you frickin car thief!!!
March 5th, 2015 at 1:02 pm
I still haven’t gotten my car back
March 5th, 2015 at 1:12 pm
Cameron suggested that the anti-Winston crowd can’t possibly be watching football if they believe that Mariota is a more seasoned NFL prospect….
Dear Mr. Cameron, I watch a lot of football and I believe Mariota is the better choice for the Bucs. I think Winston has many skills, but I also think he has a lot of flaws too! So you’re welcome to your opinion…but don’t forget what they say about opinions!
P.s. Screw you.
March 5th, 2015 at 1:22 pm
Can we please just finally put this debate to rest. I still can’t believe there are actually Bucs fans out there that still think we should pick Mariota. Winston is a sure fire franchise quarterback, and Mariota is a projection.
March 5th, 2015 at 1:35 pm
Watching the game of football and watching the subtleties and nuances of football are 2 totally different things. I was a Mariota fan but when I looked at multiple games, Winston just stood out as the superior QB and it wasn’t close. All these people saying they are close, I have no idea what film they are watching. Youtube is not the best source of video either.
March 5th, 2015 at 1:42 pm
No need to sell me on Winston, I can see the talent with my eyes at the collegiate level. yes everyone has to develop into a pro but it’s easier to sell me on Winston than it is to sell me on a spread option quarterback…..even if you want to compare useless stats like Winston’s 18 int’s to mariotta’s 3-4 or whatever it is hey when I look back and see that even RG3 only had 6 int’s in college it doesn’t tell me anything, theres just too many spread option college qb’s in the nfl doing nothing or doing very average things
March 5th, 2015 at 2:08 pm
@Walter says:
. . . especially considering we’d have to completely re-tool the offense if we took Mariota.
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Um, news flash: We ARE completely re-tooling the offense, no matter who we draft. Hence the new offensive coordinator and new QB coach.
Duh.
March 5th, 2015 at 2:18 pm
A new system doesnt mean your retooling the offense. Retooling means getting new pieces for it. As far as I know the only new pieces were getting are on offensive line and QB. Were not getting rid of WRs, TEs, RBs.
Duh.
March 5th, 2015 at 2:21 pm
Barry for Christ sake you steal cars! You have no room to talk. Also, I will say this again, stop saying creepy crab!!! That is the dumbest and most juvenile nickname ever used. You continue to use and every time I see it I picture a helmet wearing 12 yo typing while riding a short bus to his special school! Either that or a pudgy 43yo guy in his PJs down in the basement of his mom’s house where he lives rent free! I am guessing that one of these two are accurate! #BarryTheCreepyCarThief
March 5th, 2015 at 2:29 pm
@Couch Fan says:
As far as I know the only new pieces were getting are on offensive line and QB. Were not getting rid of WRs, TEs, RBs.
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Oh, I see.
So, I guess only Jameis is qualified to throw to Mike Evans or Vincent Jackson or ASJ, or hand the ball off to Charles Sims or Doug Martin?
I guess if we drafted Mariota we would have to get a whole new set of skill position players?
Ridiculous. Typical Winstonista logic, but still ridiculous.
March 5th, 2015 at 2:50 pm
I must have missed this whole Winston Day play out. We’ll see a whole slew of guys coming in…it’s the norm…when is Williams visit set for? If you were interviewing, I would like to make a better lasting impression by going later than earlier. What do you think?
March 5th, 2015 at 2:52 pm
I must’ve missed something… why is everybody calling Barry a car thief?
March 5th, 2015 at 2:52 pm
Yes it would be crazy to think that someone would have to retool for a QB that most likely wouldn’t be able to run a pro style offense for some time. Thats ludicrous.
And who said anything about QBs? Lol. Awfully defensive. All I did was correct your “retooling” statement.
March 5th, 2015 at 3:10 pm
Can’t get that direct quote out of my head. I’m a great person Jameis said! Wtf… I’m a great person has been said by no great people in the history of world.. Read the signs people! Read the signs! It’s all laid out in front of us.
March 5th, 2015 at 3:54 pm
Someone accused Barry the #creepycarthief of stealing cars. Because someone accused him of this we all know that it must be true!
March 5th, 2015 at 3:56 pm
The Jameis Winston Rapsheet
For some athletes, anything they touch turns to gold. For others like Florida State QB Jameis Winston, anything he is associated with off the field turns to scandal. From stealing crab legs from a supermarket, to shouting expletives in the student union, to more serious allegations of sexual assault, Winston can’t seem to keep himself out of trouble. Even when he’s suspended, Winston does something strange that makes headlines.. like, you know, dressing for the game anyway.
March 5th, 2015 at 3:56 pm
I agree that’s why I read the signs see spread option quarterback that couldn’t start in high school and I say no thanks…. Nick foles was no world beater before chip Kelly got there so his success came from the system
March 5th, 2015 at 4:48 pm
I am so Barry to ask, but given your over the top, irrational hatred of Jameis, were you sexually molested as a little girl?
March 5th, 2015 at 4:50 pm
Barry= sorry. Hmmm kinda fits.
March 5th, 2015 at 4:52 pm
I’m still a great person!
March 5th, 2015 at 7:55 pm
Ironically, the best thing for Winston would be to let him fall and take some of the #1 pick pressure and TMZ spotlight off of him. Whoever gets him will have a prototypical QB of the past. The other guy looks like the prototypical QB of the future. Take your pick. The Glazers wanted Chip Kelly and his offense. Why wouldn’t they want his prototypical QB???
March 5th, 2015 at 8:21 pm
Senor Mofo Says:
March 5th, 2015 at 2:08 pm
@Walter says:
. . . especially considering we’d have to completely re-tool the offense if we took Mariota.
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Um, news flash: We ARE completely re-tooling the offense, no matter who we draft. Hence the new offensive coordinator and new QB coach.
Duh.
I think he means that large and slower WRs like Evans and Jackson wouldnt be the best option in a spread. Look at most spread option Os in the WR ranks are filled with very quick guys. I dont think the Bucs want to trade our two stud WRs to bring in the type of guys it would take to make the spread effective here.
March 5th, 2015 at 8:30 pm
crazy Says:
March 5th, 2015 at 7:55 pm
Ironically, the best thing for Winston would be to let him fall and take some of the #1 pick pressure and TMZ spotlight off of him. Whoever gets him will have a prototypical QB of the past. The other guy looks like the prototypical QB of the future. Take your pick. The Glazers wanted Chip Kelly and his offense. Why wouldn’t they want his prototypical QB???
Because Kelly is in Philly, not Tampa. Thats like buying special bullets for a gun you dont have.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:04 pm
Evans played in a spread offense with Johnny who?
March 5th, 2015 at 9:07 pm
That’s rite, Johnny Jump Ball.
March 5th, 2015 at 9:22 pm
Senor Nofo…None of this arguing is going to matter in 56 days. I hope you stick around for the draft party in here.
Me? I’ll be at the Bucs draft party wearing my FS Winston jersey.