Jameis Watch: “It’s Cut And Dry”
March 21st, 2015
Crab-legs-stealing, BB-gun-shooting, obscenity-hollering, Heisman-Trophy-winning, former national champion Jameis Winston, the pride of Florida State University, continues to look like a much better quarterback prospect than Mike Glennon.
It’s Joe’s daily nugget on the Jameis Watch, celebrating the best quarterback ever to wear No. 5 in the state of Florida.
More so next week, Joe will break down to a greater detail a fantastic podcast NFL Network draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah did on Jameis Winston. Jeremiah interviewed college coaches who recruited Winston and failed, like Stanford coach David Shaw, Winston’s former teammates at Florida State, and more, to try to find out what kind of a person Winston is.
In a video on NFL.com pimping the podcast, Jeremiah sat in on a round table with Brian Baldinger, Curtis Conway and Andrew Siciliano and said he knows of no team that is against drafting Winston.
“Teams have spent a lot of money to dig into [Winston’s background],” Jeremiah said. “They’ve done their homework, and it’s cut and dry — either he’s on the board or off it. I’ve yet to have anybody tell me that he’s off their board.”
So much for the narrative that Winston is some modern day Lucifer walking the face of the earth, a ma who will turn whatever city he plays for into a third world country where women and children cannot walk the streets with any degree of safety.
March 21st, 2015 at 10:07 am
That’s because these teams have actually dug into the details on the rape allegation and know that it’s a load of crap….something the Winston haters refuse to do…and when you can throw the ball like that, who gives a damn if you “stole” some crab legs, shouted an obscenity, had an airsoft fight with teammates, and filled your water cup with soda at a fast food joint….I was more put off that he would eat at crappy Burger King!
March 21st, 2015 at 10:09 am
Lovie better not screw this up, I keep saying it…..best chance we had in years to get a true Qb……Jameis or keep sucking for another decade!
March 21st, 2015 at 10:12 am
I love it. I can’t wait to run my mouth to the anti Winston idiots when he’s leading us through the playoffs in 2 years. I have a long hand written list of the Pewter Report and JoeBucsFan anti Winston church choir assemblers and I’m going to brutally remind them throughout Winstons entire career that they didn’t want him.
March 21st, 2015 at 10:14 am
There it is, whatever Jeremiah says must be true. Why would any GM tell a big mouth like him the truth. This guy is just a pawn to help leak smokescreens.
March 21st, 2015 at 10:15 am
Just keep in mind, Jameis without elite talent around him will NOT look like the Jameis everyone saw at FSU the past two seasons……
He had elite college talent around him, both offensively and DEFENSIVELY as well, their defense made a lot of “saves” if you will….
So I would suggest everyone not get too excited when the Bucs draft him, he won’t be decent until he has time to throw and a really good running game and a defense that can save some games…
Tall order to fill, isn’t it?
March 21st, 2015 at 10:16 am
So much for the narrative that Winston is some modern day Lucifer walking the face of the earth, a ma who will turn whatever city he plays for into a third world country where women and children cannot walk the streets with any degree of safety.
LMAO Well played blast of hyperbole Joe!
AGAIN….I think the biggest concerns for “real” people and not the haters which clearly include a tiny % of racists…was a lack of maturity and horrible judgement and the total lack of concern for his U, his coach and his teammates. It was the obscenities while under investigation resulting in the suspension that frightened me the most. A total lack of respect OR immaturity.
OK the posters here have brought me around and I’m on board. But those who are not are not guilty of “demonizing” Fameis. HIS actions are what brought on all the doubt. This didn’t just materialize out of thin air.
March 21st, 2015 at 10:17 am
The real reason a lot of people do not want to look past the false rape claim is because Jameis is black. It’s the word nobody wants to use but it is racist in nature.
Its why few have an issue with Peyton Manning or Ben Rothlisburger despite the same allegations
March 21st, 2015 at 10:21 am
Mariota is a better prospect than Winston.
March 21st, 2015 at 10:27 am
I don’t see many people calling him a rapist anymore. I used to call him an alleged rapist, but not anymore after reviewing the facts of that incident. I disagree with the comparisons to Big Ben who has massive hands and incredible core strength…Winston is far from that.
March 21st, 2015 at 10:33 am
Winston baby!!!!!
March 21st, 2015 at 10:37 am
The most intriguing thing to me is what polar opposites these QB’s are…it’s such a tough call to make – I just can’t stop thinking maybe Glennon is so much like Ryan the new OC is telling Lovie he doesn’t need either of them??
March 21st, 2015 at 10:38 am
Everyone seems to likes Winston but the big dog. Why is that?
March 21st, 2015 at 10:44 am
I listened to the podcast yesterday, fantastic listen! If you have any doubts or even questions about Winston you should really listen to it. DJ does a great job of breaking everything down. Makes you really excited about this kid.
March 21st, 2015 at 10:54 am
I have completely dismissed the rape allegations from the beginning….it’s the cumulative immature acts that concerned me. I am less concerned now because I believe the Bucs have done their best to vet Winston….this will be the most scrutinized decison in Buc history & very high on the NFL history scale.
I am prepared for Winston to be the choice. I still support Mariota as the best choice for less off field risk and more long-term upside because of his atleticism.
March 21st, 2015 at 11:00 am
Joe, Tell me of a team that’s wanting move to get Winston. The P.Manning/J.Montana Hybrid. You would think team would be dying to get to him, right? Also did you read where 80% Owners/GM’s say they pass on Winston? Why are so m any teams moving for Mariota?
#DP #HGH #PEDs #BrainDeadRetard
March 21st, 2015 at 11:05 am
Winston is NOT the best qb in the draft. I don’t believe bucs would want him as face of our team. With money and women …watch out!!!
March 21st, 2015 at 11:07 am
Let’s all support Barry.
Hash tagging his problems publicly is the first step.
Only thing left out is the admission of being a car thief.
#barryisacarthief
March 21st, 2015 at 11:18 am
My favorite parts are when Barry and Curtis (if they aren’t the same person) just make things up. #80%ofGM’s #Barryisacarthief
March 21st, 2015 at 11:22 am
SSlot him in at #1, its a done deal. i believe going forward its #34 and #65 that really warrants debate,
March 21st, 2015 at 11:24 am
@Barry
Barry, answer me this. Why were so many teams attempting to move up for RG3 but none were trying to move up for Luck?
The answer: because everyone knew that Luck was not an option as he was already going to the team with the #1 pick. Therefore, the only other good QB in that draft to go after was RG3, creating a massive trade-up market for him.
Just in case you didn’t understand, plug Jameis’ name everywhere it says Luck, and Mariota’s name in everywhere is says RG3, then re-read it.
March 21st, 2015 at 11:28 am
@Barry
I’ve seen the other posters attack you relentlessly. Perhaps you might wish to reconsider either your position or at least the way you post them.
As for me WTF does this even mean?
“#DP #HGH #PEDs #BrainDeadRetard”
Let’s start from the back and work forward. Are you really accusing ANYBODY of literally being a braindeadretard? A description by the way that totally oozes compassion for people with learning disabilities eh. Hyperbole is one thing but hate is something else.
PEDS? Are you really suggesting that Fameis or anybody is using Performance enhancing drugs? Seriously. I don’t see it but if I did it would be MM…he’s ripped not Fameis.
HGH? Fameis taking HGH. Wow! He’s had a 97MPH fastball for quite awhile now. So your suggesting some black high school kid from bumfck Alabama had access to the kind of illegal physicians/trainers who would hook him up?
And DP. I don’t even know what that stands for except as an abbreviation for a sexual activity. Is that what your suggesting?
March 21st, 2015 at 11:29 am
I will cry if we don’t draft jameis
March 21st, 2015 at 11:39 am
my car is missing
#barryisacarthief
haha this gets me every time
March 21st, 2015 at 11:41 am
What are the indications that Winston is the Bucs top pick? I must of missed them because nothing out of OBP suggests any potential pick has been given the edge.
March 21st, 2015 at 11:44 am
Like I said in another post, those still thinking it’s not Winston are either casual fans or simply uninformed.
March 21st, 2015 at 11:47 am
@barry the car thief,
The Saints were allegedly trying to trade us Brees to get Winston. I’d say he must be pretty well respected to be willing to give up a first ballot hall of famer for him.
March 21st, 2015 at 11:51 am
WTF is Barry talking about. I can’t stand idiots like him. Barry you better switch teams April 30th and please never make another ignorant comment on this site you hash tagging creepy car thieving fool! #barrydoesntunderstandhashtags #barryisuninformed #barrystealsyugos
March 21st, 2015 at 11:51 am
@bucfan37,
Have you been under a rock the last few weeks? Aside from the Bucs coming out and saying it, everything points to Winston being the guy.
March 21st, 2015 at 11:55 am
@Buccfan37
Because he is widely considered by analysts and experts as the best QB in this draft, and some even go on to say that he is the 2nd best QB prospect in the last 10 years. You never hear anyone say that about Mariota. Every mock draft has Jameis going #1 (literally every one). The Bucs brought in Jameis a week before free agency even started, which is unprecedented. They defended Winston very aggressively at the combine, almost like the start of a PR campaign. They already came out and said that they have a favorite, and every sign points to Jameis. Almost none point to Mariota. Even Roy Cummings said that if the pick isn’t Jameis, then the Bucs did the most elaborate smoke screen ever. And the thing is, the Bucs have the #1 pick, so they dont need a smoke screen.
Everyone with any knowledge on the Bucs, and even the people without knowledge of the Bucs, see that Jameis is the pick… But apparently you do not.
March 21st, 2015 at 11:59 am
I don’t think that, I just think he will suck. You can villainize all those who oppose Winston all you want, but in the end, Mariota will be the better of the two.
March 21st, 2015 at 12:17 pm
Yeah, NFL teams really want reporters to know what they are thinking…. especially at this time of year.
Let’s call someone so they can broadcast worldwide that player X is off our board.
Another reach.
March 21st, 2015 at 12:23 pm
I don’t know for certain who the first pick is and neither do any of you.
March 21st, 2015 at 12:27 pm
@biff barker
You are probably one of the same people who believed it when Chris Landry came out with that report that all of those GM’s preferred Winston over Mariota though.
The thing is, a team would have more of a reason to say “yes, we have taken this guy off of our board” for the purposes of avoiding bad PR; however, there would be zero reason to believe that ALL of those teams would come out and say that they prefer X player over Y player.
If anyone is reaching, it’s you… for reasons to discredit everything pro Jameis.
March 21st, 2015 at 12:31 pm
@Buccfan37
Of course nobody knows for certain, I’m sure L&L don’t even know or certain. Jameis could die tomorrow and that would probably change things a little bit.
March 21st, 2015 at 12:31 pm
@Buccfan37
Of course nobody knows for certain, I’m sure L&L don’t even know for certain. Jameis could die tomorrow and that would probably change things a little bit.
March 21st, 2015 at 12:33 pm
Please describe the daily nugget. Is it brown, hot and steamy? Does it have a foul odor?
Just wondering.
March 21st, 2015 at 12:43 pm
Daniel Jeremiah did a very good and thorough job in putting this in-depth look at Jameis Winston together. I don’t agree 100% with all his conclusions (like comparing Winston to Bridgewater although better than Teddy and also not acknowledging that Winston is pretty close to the prospect Luck was in many ways. I also disagree when he says that Winston is the 5th best payer in this draft – he is either #1 or #2 talent wise IMO). But Jeremiah ultimately concluded that Winston is not going to turn into Jamarcus Russell – that he’s more likely to be a Roethlisberger type NFL QB and that the Bucs should absolutely draft him at #1
I especially liked what the FSU equipment manager who spent so many years in the NFL said:
“Jameis is the real deal. I’ve been around him since his High School days and he is a special young man. He smiles and has fun. And his best attribute is his Love and understanding of his teammates. I finished season #25 this year in this business – 17 in the NFL and the last 8 at the division 1 level. I’ve been around Montana, Ray Lewis, Derrick Thomas, Marcus Allen and Derrick Brooks. Without question – he is as good a leader as any of those guys. He will be an exceptional player – and when he says he plans on playing in the Super Bowl next year – he honestly does. I would not put anything past him.”
It will be interesting to hear what Daniel Jeremiah says when he does the same type of upcoming in-depth breakdown on Mariota.
March 21st, 2015 at 12:44 pm
ADown88 Says:
March 21st, 2015 at 12:27 pm
@biff barker
You are probably one of the same people who believed it when Chris Landry came out with that report that all of those GM’s preferred Winston over Mariota though.
The thing is, a team would have more of a reason to say “yes, we have taken this guy off of our board” for the purposes of avoiding bad PR; however, there would be zero reason to believe that ALL of those teams would come out and say that they prefer X player over Y player.
If anyone is reaching, it’s you… for reasons to discredit everything pro Jameis.
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Hey Chief, where did I say anything about Winston? Whwre did I say anything ab
March 21st, 2015 at 12:47 pm
@biff barker
Oh, you are the kind of person that runs around calling people chief… say no more.
March 21st, 2015 at 12:47 pm
Damn… clumsy.
Back to ADown88’s comments.
Dude, all I was implying was that teams don’t really want anyone to know what they are thinking.
March 21st, 2015 at 12:51 pm
@biff barker
And I said you are PROBABLY one of the people etc, so yes, I was making some what of an assumption. If you are on JBF a lot, you see people discrediting every positive Jameis article with comments just like yours stating, “this couldn’t possibly be true for X reason” when in fact it could be true.
March 21st, 2015 at 12:54 pm
ADown88 Says:
@biff barker
Oh, you are the kind of person that runs around calling people chief… say no more.
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You sure do like reading into things that simply aren’t there don’t you?
Maybe Mommy can go get your Jamesis blankey out of the dryer now to calm you down.
March 21st, 2015 at 12:55 pm
Reading into things that aren’t there? Lol.
“Hey Chief, where did I say anything about Winston? Whwre did I say anything ab”
How much pot did you smoke before you got on this website?
March 21st, 2015 at 1:08 pm
Hey Joes if you are trying to endear us to JW couldn’t you find a better picture? He looks really creepy in that one
March 21st, 2015 at 1:09 pm
If the Bucs aren’t going to draft Winston they should just pack up and move the team to LA, honestly they will never get this fully turned around.
You draft a star like Winston on these new rookie contracts and you can build the entire team before you have to pay the QB. It isn’t like if they miss on this it will set the franchise back forever or it’s a $80 million dollar mistake like the old days. If they’re right though – which is more likely – they can be a proud franchise once again and go to new heights the organization has never seen.
March 21st, 2015 at 1:17 pm
Joe. Dude. Fix your website. I can barely read the article without it going to another add/site etc.
March 21st, 2015 at 1:24 pm
Ya know……I was a founding member of the Trade Down crowd. I have come around to the fact that we are most likely going QB so I am forced to get on board with that and support whatever QB is taken because that is what real fans do. I have never been a ‘hater’ of either Winston or Mariota. I simply not sold on either. I am trying to see the good sides of both QBs now as one of them will likely be wearing Pewter. However I must say that I get Extremely annoyed when people pull out the race card and then say with a straight face that Mettenberger and Manning were guilty of the same thing Winston was never charged with. JEEESH are you people really that stupid. Grabbing a girls butt or sticking your butt in a girls face is not the same thing as drugging and gang raping a girl. ]
Now settle down Winstonites, Im not saying he is guilty. I don’t even care if he is because i know that i will never know what happened that night cause I wasn’t there. I’m one of those people that sees things that way.
I guess what I am trying to like Winston along with Mariota but it isn’t easy when people use a platform like that to justify their point.
March 21st, 2015 at 1:25 pm
I don’t really care about jw haters take anymore they are still in denial about who’s the better quarterback I want to show proof right now once and for all how wrong you are
For those of you who think MM is better consider think lol so does mark Dominick
March 21st, 2015 at 1:27 pm
“I guess what I am trying *to say is that Im trying*
March 21st, 2015 at 1:38 pm
“JEEESH are you people really that stupid. Grabbing a girls butt or sticking your butt in a girls face is not the same thing as drugging and gang raping a girl.”
Okay now I’m back for just this one post then I’m back on hiatus. I won’t reply back either way.
The girl was NOT drugged.(drug tests say so) The girl was NOT gang raped. Peyton Manning did NOT stick his butt in the trainers face, he rested his testicles on on her forehead.
Gator…go read up more on the case, and stop making stuff up. If you are going to put your opinion out there at least know the facts of the cases that you present before you present them.
That is all for now.
@Celly you were right, I might pop in from time to time if I see something completely false and slanderous. This was one of those times.
March 21st, 2015 at 1:48 pm
@87
If you didn’t do it, I was going to.
March 21st, 2015 at 1:50 pm
@ bucgator
Forget all the off the field stuff and just try and concentrate on what Winston is on the field. And what he is on the field is the best QB in this draft. You dont have to believe it, but what I come away with after watching him play is that “this kid is special”. Now, does that guarantee that he will be a future hall of famer or anything? No. He could very well blow out his arm and never be the same again. But what he’s shown on the field and the amount of talent this kid has, he would be fully justified in being the number 1 overall pick. And if the bucs take him number 1 overall, I think it would be safe to say that they agree. And again, for people who think I dislike Mariota because I’m choosing Winston, it isnt so much what Mariota has, its more about what Winston has. And what he has the ability to be one of the greatest QBs in the NFL.
March 21st, 2015 at 1:58 pm
This site is unreadable on iPhone due to incessant ads taking me to the App Store. Enough!!! I download every app and give it a 1 star review.
That being said, I think the Bucs need Winston.
March 21st, 2015 at 2:00 pm
Tom Edrington says:
Well, thank you for putting it out in the open that you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about
Kelvin Benjamin pre-Jameis: 30 catches, 495 yards, 4 TDs
Kelvin Benjamin with Jameis: 54 catches, 1011 yards, 15 TDs
Rashard Greene pre-Jameis: 57 catches, 741 yards, 6 TDs
Rashad Green with Jameis: 76 catches, 1128, 9 TDs in year 1 with JW
Rasshad Green with Jameis: 99 catches, 1635, 7 TDs in year 2 with JW
So Tom, there is no doubt that Jameis was surrounded with talent, but Jameis played a big role in exposing that talent as “elite.” Great players make those around them better. Anyone who has watched FSU football consistently over the years knows that Jameis Winston made those around him, not just better, but elite.
I won’t even get into your comment about the defense bailing out Jameis. His RS Freshman year the offense was so dominant that there was absolutely no bailing out….last years defense was so porous that your assertion is downright laughable.
Think before you type, please. And put a smile on your face my brother…Jameis is coming to Tampa and he’s bringing swag back
March 21st, 2015 at 2:00 pm
It figures someone would want to lash out at my statement. Smh. She said she was drugged therein lies the Accusation. She may be lying her pretty little ass of I Don’t CARE. Don’t you guys get it. I Don’t Hate Winston. I will never meet the guy so he takes up ZERO space in my head. I have never been a person for Hero Worship or Hatred. I was merely pointing out the the ACCUSATIONS of the three Manning, Mettenberger, and Winston to be COMPLETELY Different.
Go Ahead read something into this post if I didnt make it clear enough .
March 21st, 2015 at 2:10 pm
The only real question I have is do we pick up his TE Nick O’leary? lol. Funny but true. We just spent a high draft pick on a TE last draft, and yet picking up someone he’s been comfortable throwing to would be a good safety net.
March 21st, 2015 at 2:13 pm
@bucgatr
Go Ahead read something into this post if I didnt make it clear enough .
I’ve certainly been placed in your position! I think many of us are just typing past each other without reading very carefully.
Certainly nuance is hard to communicate on a sports blog.
If it’s any consolation I get exactly what your saying. Alas you have gatr in your name which I suspect causes many…not all…FSU posters here to believe the worst about you. Hey you’re a gatr you must suck. Of course conversely there are plenty of gators who view the Noles the same way.
The blog has Barry. He’s clearly racist and a jerk. Let’s focus our animosity on a poster who clearly deserves it. LOL
March 21st, 2015 at 2:13 pm
Listened to it yesterday….awesome stuff! I was convinced after watching his combine. We’re lucky to be picking first because if not, many would be coming up with trade up scenarios.
Now about that 2nd pick…..
March 21st, 2015 at 2:14 pm
Could it be that she “thought” she was drugged and tests came back negative for drugs. What bothers me about it is that people bring up the drugging with statements like “we weren’t there”, “it’s possible” and of course “I don’t care”.
Bottom line: drug test came back negative for every claim she made and I might add that the rape kit was inconclusive with a second DNA present.
I’m not going to try and vilify her but I certainly don’t think Winston should be vilified either when all the evidence gives him the benefit of the doubt that our court system demands that he receive like everyone else.
March 21st, 2015 at 2:16 pm
@bucgator
Well then where does the gang rape come in? She never ACCUSED anyone of that. In fact, she stated that the other guy in the house (Chris Casher) was telling Jameis to stop. Casher was the one that stated he was attempting to go in the room to see if she would have sex with him as well, that is when she shut the door on him and they moved to the bathroom. accusations
You are just throwing out words like drugged and gang raped in attempt to make it as dramatic as possible. Then belittling the ACCUSATIONS against Manning for even more effect. You failed.
March 21st, 2015 at 2:23 pm
Wow. I completely and openly admit that I didn’t want either QB and then admit the need for a QB and admit that both of the kids look Really good and Im on board with either one. I openly say that Jameis looked a little better. I Constantly say that I will support Jameis % if he becomes a Buc. I say I don’t know How many times that I don’t hate Jameis yet if I make a TRUE statement that the Accusations are completely different Winston supporters try to read in between the lines of my posts for something that isnt there. I sure hope Winston is nothing like some of you guys cause that would make it Impossible for me to like him. The more I like the kid the more his fanatics start to turn me off
March 21st, 2015 at 2:28 pm
We skrong den…
Jameis Winston come on down…
March 21st, 2015 at 2:40 pm
Can Nick O’Leary be converted to FB??
Imo, he doesn’t have the size or speed to be a dominant TE in the NFL but his toughness, hands, a blocking abilty make him an ideal fullback…his combine wasn’t very good so if he slids into later rounds I think he would be a nice addition to our offense…
March 21st, 2015 at 2:41 pm
Chris Says:
March 21st, 2015 at 10:12 am
I love it. I can’t wait to run my mouth to the anti Winston idiots when he’s leading us through the playoffs in 2 years. I have a long hand written list of the Pewter Report and JoeBucsFan anti Winston church choir assemblers and I’m going to brutally remind them throughout Winstons entire career that they didn’t want him.
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Please share what you have so far!
Of course, most of the d-bags that just love criticizing everything under the sun will have changed their username at least 3X before that time…but still, I’ve love to see the list.
March 21st, 2015 at 2:48 pm
@Erik with CleanAthletics.com
Apparently…
March 21st, 2015 at 2:48 pm
Hell yes to O’Leary if we draft Winston. Familiarity helps Any rookie
March 21st, 2015 at 2:48 pm
Joe’s throat is probably cut & dry from deep throating Winston everyday….
March 21st, 2015 at 2:50 pm
@ Cody
That’s an interesting thought. If not a FB, maybe even an H-back? He Doesn’t really have the size or athletics you look for in a dominant TE, but If he’s there in the 5th round I think you got to at least consider it given his familiarity with Winston alone. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
March 21st, 2015 at 2:50 pm
Im going to watch the KU/ Cin game
Peace
March 21st, 2015 at 3:12 pm
Children are safe; women are not.
March 21st, 2015 at 3:17 pm
“Tom Edrington Says:
March 21st, 2015 at 10:15 am
Just keep in mind, Jameis without elite talent around him will NOT look like the Jameis everyone saw at FSU the past two seasons……
He had elite college talent around him, both offensively and DEFENSIVELY as well, their defense made a lot of “saves” if you will….
So I would suggest everyone not get too excited when the Bucs draft him, he won’t be decent until he has time to throw and a really good running game and a defense that can save some games…
Tall order to fill, isn’t it?”
Umm Mr. Tom, did u not see how many interceptions he threw this year? That was due to lack of experience. Three out of for receiving options true freshman or soph! C’mon man! Look at facts before throwing stuff out there dude. Plus, I liked Rashad Greene but now way would I take him over VJAX or M. Evans bro. I would take D. Cook over any RB on our roster but that’s about it.
March 21st, 2015 at 3:18 pm
@buddha
Whats that, the title of your autobiography?
March 21st, 2015 at 3:39 pm
Its so cut and dry that rumors that several offensive minded teams are now looking to trade up for Mariota. The Saints, Chargers, Eagles and Chief’s are wanting to move up to take this “project”. If Mariota is somehow picked up by the Saints. Buc fans are going to regret it when the Saints rack up 50 pts against Tampa regularly.
March 21st, 2015 at 3:47 pm
Anyone who knows anything about football, knows Winston should be the Bucs pick at #1. We also know that using a smokescreen when you have the #1 pick is pointless and idiotic. So it’s clear Winston is just a smokescreen and will not be the Bucs pick.
March 21st, 2015 at 4:06 pm
@MTM
I don’t know why it is so hard for people to understand. There are 2 good QB’s in this draft, and then a huge drop off after that. So since teams know that the Bucs will be selecting Jameis (the better of the two in most sensible peoples opinion), that leaves Mariota as the only other elite prospect left. Teams will of course be trying to get their hands on Mariota, since Jameis will already be gone.
After the Bucs, there are about 6 teams that still need (or want) a better/younger QB, and with Mariota as their only chance, they will be jostling to get him.
March 21st, 2015 at 4:24 pm
Erik with Clean Athletics.com, you’re an idiot! Go tell the Duke lacrosse team all that gagging in the mouth crap that you keep spewing. I am a VERY successful doctor who does NOT have to promote my business on this website, unlike the WHORE that you are, protecting another WHORE while you promote your business!! Why don’t you move to New York (the next team projected to draft “system boy”) or whichever team in the 12-18 range that wants to RAPE Chip Kelly and make his mouth sore!! Ask Steve Spurrier how using your system QB worked with Heisman winner Danny “Awful”! Marcus is clearly the next in a long line of QBs that excel in college then suck in the NFL. I would MUCH rather take Leonard Williams at #1 than Marcus, if we don’t take the baddass Winston. When we draft the best player in the draft, you need to stop posting on this site…..unless your business (that I have NEVER heard of) needs it. You are actually hurting it more than helping it!
March 21st, 2015 at 4:32 pm
@MTM, I hope that plays out for the Saints. That would be AWESOME to watch these two go at it against each other twice a year. The 50 points wont be a big deal since we’ll be scoring 60+ 😉
March 21st, 2015 at 5:30 pm
@chris- that cuts both ways. I plan to “brutalily remind his supporters that we spent the number overall pick on a guy who is questionable both on and off the field. Bet you $1000 bucks in 5 years he’s a backup or not in the league!,any takers? I thought so.
March 21st, 2015 at 6:10 pm
I’ve seen the light and will embrace Jameis as the savior of the Bucs. I think it was a combination of things but I have finally come to my senses. I blame my mother the most. She stopped breast feeding me at the young age of 12. That was a very traumatic time of my life. And even though I am a serial car thief, I’m trying to change my ways.
March 21st, 2015 at 6:46 pm
TOM EDRINGTON HE HAD NOTHING AROUND HIM COMPARED TO LAST YEAR AND YOU SAYING HE HAD ELITE TALENT AROUND HIM BOTH YEARS SHOWS YOU KNOW NOTHING
March 21st, 2015 at 6:52 pm
Broy34,
Huh?
What did you say?
I can’t hear you.
March 21st, 2015 at 6:54 pm
First of all Wausa, you’re an idiot. My family from Pitt and everyone else there admittedly pretends to like him bc a security tape-free raping franchise QB is better than no QB. Peyton faced allegations light years ago in a different society/NFL.
People don’t like Winston because athletic ability and firey attitude aside, he’s given us every reason to believe he’s a pea brain. Not to say I don’t want him here, just saying I would take someone a bit more mature that plays 4 quarters, who I don’t believe will take for granted playing in the NFL.
And for the record, put whatever twist on it u want… Him not showing up to the draft is BS
March 21st, 2015 at 7:02 pm
@Mike10
You pretty much summed up everything an uninformed, grade A Winston hater could say. Congrats.
March 21st, 2015 at 7:12 pm
@Mike10,
I love when people call other people idiots then say things that are totally idiotic.
March 21st, 2015 at 7:12 pm
I’m the first to hope I’m wrong
March 21st, 2015 at 7:14 pm
@Mike10
Shouldn’t have to do much hoping. You are already wrong on almost everything you say.
March 21st, 2015 at 7:32 pm
Anyone who is surprised by this is a lemming who buys into the spin that ESPN, cnn, fox news, and the media in general pump out for ratings and clicks. Of course, the joes have also profited off of this media spin too. I just want jameis to lead the Bucs to promised land so all the haters will have no choice but to shut up
March 21st, 2015 at 7:35 pm
Mike10, you’ve just proved to everyone youre the pea brain.
March 21st, 2015 at 7:39 pm
Dilfer and mariucci must be borderline re-re if they think jameis is smart, right Mike10?
http://youtu.be/OQlHUXwnT1k
March 21st, 2015 at 7:42 pm
Dr. Feelgood,
I thought those 2 posts of mine were pretty funny actually… And no need to be gay about me using my web address for my screen name. I’m not pumping ads out or anything. It’s just a handle…. And for the record, I absolutely believe that Mariota wil have a better NFL career than Winston.
March 21st, 2015 at 7:45 pm
Lol re re… There’s a difference between smart and mature
March 21st, 2015 at 7:51 pm
Adown, easy does it. Just bc I’m not drunk off the kool aid doesn’t mean I’m a hater. Let’s say I’m one of those shades of grey
March 21st, 2015 at 8:07 pm
@Mike10
When you are saying stuff like “security tape-free raping franchise QB” then you are either a hater or severely uninformed… In your case I’m going with both.
March 21st, 2015 at 8:20 pm
Oh, it’s also extremely immature. I know how much you like that word.
March 21st, 2015 at 8:50 pm
Was Jameis surrounded by elite talent? Without question. Did they play like elite talent? Not anywhere close. And the same goes for Jameis as well last year. He was a part of the problem, but far from the only problem.
Obviously I lean Winston because of how Mariota seems to be a great front runner, but leaves a lot to be desired when behind. See Arizona games last year and this year (1-2 against them) as well as the Ohio State game. Ohio State punched them in the mouth early and they didn’t respond in an impressive manner.
Barry responds better getting smacked, but he should be used to it by now.
#barryisacarthief
March 21st, 2015 at 9:44 pm
I guess you did listen, heh Joe? You censored my link to this. It’s ok, I forgive you.
March 21st, 2015 at 9:47 pm
The problem is that nowadays, with so much information flying around, it is almost impossible to remember anything you saw just a week ago, never mind three years ago! – Peter Leko
March 21st, 2015 at 10:00 pm
Heh? Takin about Rothlisberger, keep up
March 21st, 2015 at 10:08 pm
I think Lovie is going to F it up. Why all the smoke screens? I saw another article that had him saying”why does it have to be a QB?” We need other positions too”. Man if he F’s this up,..send him back to the basement. Im already starting to stop liking my home team. Thats a sad thing when I’ve been a true fan for a long time. Last year I didn’t watch a whole game. Now when I think we can start winning again. This guy I don’t know what the F he is thinking, but I’m certain it probably aint good. Damn!!
March 21st, 2015 at 10:52 pm
If we pick Mariota, I will be extremely mad but if we don’t pick a QB at all…I think I will just burn all of my Bucs gear.
March 22nd, 2015 at 11:01 am
i was going to point out how full of crap Tom Edrington is but CreamsicleBananaHammock already nailed it.
the other thing that bothers me is when people suggest that mariota is somehow a better long term prospect because he has athleticism. in the long term if he doesn’t get hurt running he will lose his speed with age just like mike vick did and he will be left with just his inconsistent/inaccurate arm. the most important thing a qb can have is football iq and accuracy. if you have those two things and don’t have a noodle arm like danny wuerffel did you have a good chance. jameis has those things. mariota has athleticism.