Jameis Watch: Cornering Goodell
March 11th, 2015
Crab-legs-stealing, BB-gun-shooting, obscenity-hollering, Heisman-Trophy-winning, former national champion Jameis Winston, the pride of Florida State University, continues to look like a much better quarterback prospect than Mike Glennon.
It’s Joe’s daily nugget on the Jameis Watch, celebrating the best quarterback ever to wear No. 5 in the state of Florida.
Jameis Winston says his game is all about aggression, and he took that approach with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell.
Pickpocket-thwarting, Bucs-uniform-frowning, Allie-LaForce-smitten, Big-Ten-Network-hating, pedestrian-bumping, olive oil-lapping, popcorn-munching, coffee-slurping, fried-chicken-eating, oatmeal-loving, circle-jerking, beer-chugging, cricket-watching, scone-loathing, college football-naïve, baseball-box-score-reading, NPR-listening, filthy-hotel-staying, fight-instigating, barista-training Peter King, of Sports Illustrated and NBC Sports fame, learned that Winston spent about five hours at the league headquarters last week after Goodell granted him a meeting.
King spelled it out in his column today.
The backstory: One of Winston’s agents, Greg Genske, told me Tuesday that once Winston declared for the draft he wanted to meet with Goodell, both to tell his own story and to get the lay of the land about his future in the league. Sometime in February, Goodell agreed to meet Winston. That meeting occurred last week. As Genske said, it was more of an informational/educational meeting than anything else—though Winston did get his chance to tell his story to Goodell.
“He went out of his way to make a good impression, and to show that he understood what was going to be expected of him in the NFL,” one league executive who participated in one of the series of meetings said Tuesday night.
Winston, of course, had several off-field issues at Florida State, including being accused but not charged with sexual assault; shoplifting; and yelling out an obscenity in the student union, which cost him a one-game suspension. But the league people I spoke with Tuesday made it clear that Winston made a smart decision in pushing to meet Goodell and establishing a relationship with him.
Another sign on maturity by Winston, and wise move. The more Winston can put himself in good positions to learn productively about the NFL, the faster he’ll mature.
March 11th, 2015 at 10:59 am
I have to say…the kid is doing the right things.
I still think Mariota will be the overall better QB…but if Winston is still pretty good, I won’t be too sad if we take him.
But I want MARIOTA!
March 11th, 2015 at 10:59 am
Winston’s agent is doing a good job
March 11th, 2015 at 11:00 am
I would like to point out though…that most guys in the top 5 meet with the commissioner before the draft.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:02 am
Whether its Winston or his agent, its money and time well spent. I’m ready to purchase my jersey. It will be nice to have a franchise QB for a change.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:04 am
Yes, let’s praise the kid for being a screw up for 3 years and then turning into a choir boy 2 months before the draft.
Being that it’s the Bucs we’re talking about, they’ll fall for it and draft Winston only to watch him bomb out of the league by year 4.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:05 am
“Another sign on maturity by Winston, and wise move.”
Absolutely a wise move! I agree with Mike however. It seems at last Fameis “people” have finally gotten control of their guy. Don’t know that he’s matured as much as finally running into somebody who was not just another enabler like Jimbo and the FSU crowd and the posters on here who constantly wish to ignore Fameis poor behavior.
Alls well that ends well. And if Fameis has found his Cus D’Amato(remember the guy who straightened out Mike Tyson and what happened to Tyson after D’Amato’s death).
If Fameis has found somebody to finally force him to grow up more power to everybody involved. Fameis for getting his life back on track, the adviser for stopping all the enabling of Fameis boorish behavior, and the Bucs if they want to draft Fameis.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:05 am
Yea good sign lol. How many players had to do this? Oh just Shameis. Yea draft the only guy that has done so many bad things he has to try to explain what he’s done and ask for forgiveness. He will be the biggest dirtbag ever drafted first overall. That’s a great sign really turning the corner
March 11th, 2015 at 11:06 am
A con artist works all the angles before he strikes!
March 11th, 2015 at 11:06 am
The Winston haters will undoubtedly give 100% credit to Winston’s agent or advisor for this meeting…you may be correct… but you have to give 100% to Winston for being mature enough and reliable enough to follow through with the meeting. Tons of shady characters in the past have talked the talk but NEVER showed the ability to walk the walk (Manziel, JaMarcus Russell, etc).
March 11th, 2015 at 11:07 am
This clearly shows one of two things:
Either Winston is really buying into “doing the right thing” or his advisers are top notch PR men. Either way, and hopefully a little of both, this young man is making all the right moves to place a positive image.
I’ve got to believe that he realized the immense skepticism and scrutiny that he will be under and that it is better to lead the situation with positive actions and words.
Joe wrote a short time ago about how the press will descend on Jameis in every negative way imaginable and try to tear him down from his lofty perch.
The best way to combat that is drive the stories with positive pieces and the meeting with the commissioner is just one very good way to do that.
It was also mentioned in another piece, that he was checking “about the resources he could use on and off the field once he’s drafted.” That’s a VERY positive sign.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:07 am
Excellent combine.
Good meeting with bucs
weight under control
no twittering
working hard with Qb Guru
Meet the commish
Staying out of trouble
And FSU just filed a crushing Motion to Dismiss the Title IX case.
All good. One masterful performance at the pro day later this month to wrap it up.
Its already wrapped up, but just to keep it interesting.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:09 am
You don’t have to worry about Mariota’s maturity.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:11 am
This is a non story. PR moved inspired by agent. Following through with the advice doesn’t take a huge step of maturity either. Even a kid would be willing to go extra lengths for millions.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:13 am
Sure…it’s a good move….and likely recommended by his agent….I hesitate to give Winston another credit for maturity….but at least he is following instructions…..can’t hurt.
Surely the Bucs notice all of his actions and will view the sudden changes in his behavior in context.
The real question is. How will he behave after he recieves a multi-million dollar contract?…..that is his “projection” vs Mariota’s “projection” to a NFL offensive scheme.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:14 am
There is an old saying.
You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink.
Winston is being led and to his credit he is participating. It appears to me that he sees all the financial potential in front of him and he wants to participate fully.
good for him.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:14 am
don’t like the dude, but smart move.
wonder if he led with hi mr goddell, i’m famous jameis, but you can call me jaboo.
also curious as to how many times he clarified he wanted to keep it real
March 11th, 2015 at 11:15 am
Smart move. There is no way to spin this negatively by the hate crowd.
StPete
Jameis is hardly having to “Put his life back together” he merely is moving on from previous mistakes and behavior patterns. His life was hardly in ruins. It’s not like it was a drug addiction or even a criminal trial. Let’s not make more of his mistakes than needed. I get your distaste for him. I have the same hatred for Lovie and his BS ways of doing things. I am definitely a hypocrite on this but everyone needs to smile and embrace Jameis as the new bucs QB. Let’s see how fast people jump on the bandwagon after a couple of wins or a comeback drive…
Lovie needs Jameis and the Bucs need a HC
March 11th, 2015 at 11:15 am
Is it true that someone saw the ghost of Freeman lurking about one buc place.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:16 am
Red Flag, Charles Manson’s handlers can tell you he’s a good guy and has matured. Means nothing. When we got to hear from everyone how great Winston is then it makes you wonder.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:17 am
Not saying he isn’t trying his best either. The truth is no one will know if he’s truly grown up until a few years from now when some of the dust has settled.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:18 am
Maturity?!?
This called “Good Handling” by his Agents.
If Jameis had “Maturity” he would not have to be at the Commissioners Office.
By the way,
When is Mariota’s Preventative Meeting with the Commissioner?
HE DOES NOT NEED ONE!!!
March 11th, 2015 at 11:18 am
lets hope bucs pick the best qb in the draft..M.M. …with all the money and women Winston will have ,you can’t trust him
March 11th, 2015 at 11:19 am
heh.
So many people here are going to freak out when that first pick is called.
“With the first overall pick of the 2015 NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select…”
…dramatic pause…
“…Marcus Mariota, quarterback….”
Followed by news reports of fans jumping from the skyway.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:21 am
“It seems at last Fameis “people” have finally gotten control of their guy.”
Yeah, he was SO out of control.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:21 am
I love reading all the hypocrite douchebags on this web site who continue to beat up Winston. It would be hard to believe that the majority of you have never had any issues in the past and live a clean life. If you say you do or have always done the next right thing, you are full of shiz.
Im am so lucky that my early life wasn’t under a microscope and as I mature I try to correct my mistakes and follow the golden rule as best as I can.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:22 am
Barry Says
“Red Flag, Charles Manson’s handlers can tell you he’s a good guy and has matured.”
Bad example, because that will never happen. No one would ever give a good report for that guy.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:28 am
Tmax, you are correct. People act like the kid held up a convenience store, while smoking crack and dragging along the kid he kidnapped. I mean a college kid said a bad word and walked out of Publix with something he didn’t pay for but more than likely was waved out by an employee. Of course bad things can happen going out to a bar and taking a girl home but 19 year old boys don’t see much else when it comes to getting some. Everything points to he understands those were stupid decisions and he has comitted to making good decisions.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:28 am
Man I just hope this doesn’t already count as a 1st strike by Winston if he confessed to anything from college. The league office has carried strikes from college into the NFL before. Hopefully if Winston is the Bucs choice they have the 411 from the league office just in case.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:29 am
NYBucsFan, I think you missed the point. He didnt HAVE to do this. He did it on his own. You might want to read the article. The commisoners office had nothing to do with the meeting besides granting it. Give the kid a break man.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:30 am
Hear that? That’s me laughing at a few of you.
Feel free to go get a SUH jersey for your Phins Phandom. The Jameis train is heating up.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:31 am
There is a link in the Peter King column to an article by Greg Bedard titled “Is Jameis Winston worth the trouble”. This article interviews Don Brown from Boston College after he just finished breaking down game film of a loss to FSU.
I highly recommend the article for those skeptical on Jameis. It’s a fantastic read on how BC threw everything at Winston and he adjusted on the fly, avoided trap plays, threw to where receivers were going to be, and battled every single play. There is also a positive link about Mariota. Take a read and see the difference.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:31 am
BuccaneerBonzai Says:
March 11th, 2015 at 11:00 am
I would like to point out though…that most guys in the top 5 meet with the commissioner before the draft.
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You may be right, but they don’t initiate the meeting like Winston did. Thats a huge difference.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:36 am
Winston apparently checked on programs that the NFL had to offer. If Winston completes some programs that promote maturity, then I will be convinced that he is making progress and probably will most fans.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:36 am
Don’t know that he’s matured as much as finally running into somebody who was not just another enabler like Jimbo and the FSU crowd and the posters on here who constantly wish to ignore Fameis poor behavior.
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Or we just choose not to sit on our high horse and judge people on things we know absolutely nothing about. But do your thang man.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:37 am
MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:
March 11th, 2015 at 11:09 am
You don’t have to worry about Mariota’s maturity.
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That is what was said about Josh Freeman and RG3. Good to know it is so easy reading/seeing the future. We will let that be your little secret.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:41 am
I need glasses…still.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:42 am
Excellent move on Jameis’ part. No matter which way you slice it he did the right thing. He needs to continue to make right decisions like this one in the present and from this point on. If you are a Winston hater, you’ll try to turn any positive action to something negative. Keep up the good work Mr. Winston-the Buccaneers need your talent on the field.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:44 am
@87
You remind me of “One Flew Over The Cockoo’s Nest”
March 11th, 2015 at 11:44 am
No matter what good Winston try’s to do the haters will still hate and look for any reason to down play it. there minds are made up. I just don’t know how they’ll keep hating when we draft Winston and he wins games and stay’s out of trouble? Oh well. not my problem. Im just glad were drafting the “Real QB” in the draft and not the latest QB who (is a nice guy) is great at the spread in college and can run fast.
GO BUCS!
GO WINSTON! Keep up the Great work and proving the doubters wrong like he has done his whole career.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:46 am
Alma:
Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little, talk a little,
Cheep cheep cheep, talk a lot, pick a little more
Alma and Ethel:
Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little,
Talk a little, cheep cheep cheep, talk a lot, pick a little more
All the ladies:
Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little,
Talk a little, cheep cheep cheep, talk a lot, pick a little more
Ha ha ha ha that’s actually all of you lumped together!
March 11th, 2015 at 11:50 am
He did what? Why? I can’t believe he did that… how could he do that.
He tied his shoes wrong? Really, well see there’s another red flag….
He said he wants to win the Super Bowl next year…what an a-hole.
There’s another red flag Mildred.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:50 am
“Tons of shady characters in the past have talked the talk but NEVER showed the ability to walk the walk (Manziel, JaMarcus Russell, etc).”
Brandon.
I take your overall point which is why I gave credit to Fameis in my post. There is enough credit to go around. It certainly doesn’t speak much to FSU or Jimbo however that it took this to get Fameis under control.
The problem with that last line however is the one that TBBF brings up. ALL of those guys self destructed AFTER the big money. I feel pretty sure they all “said” the right things leading up to the draft.
I’m not a Fameis hater. I truly hope he gets his life together whether it’s as a Buc or a Titan. But again I read posts here that suggest Fameis behavior wasn’t all that bad and he was just a college kid goofing on everybody.
WRONG. It was ALL a big deal in combination. Again it’s the pattern that’s disturbing not the individual events. And to dismiss Fameis cursing at the Student Union is just WRONG. He wasn’t simply a college kid saying a few dirty words. He was the FACE OF THE FSU FRANCHISE. With his lack of self discipline or concern for his teammates and school he selected the worst words you could given that he was under freaking investigation in a rape charge. Do we believe that NOBODY in Fameis posse told him to keep a low profile until the charges blew over.
All of this is not to heap more blame on Fameis…the blame goes to the people who want to look the other way. This is how Fameis ended up like this to begin with…people ALWAYS looking the other way…offering excuses or light discipline.
Whomever has finally gotten Fameis ear…good on them..and yes by all means good on Fameis for finally listening.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:52 am
BTW For our legal purists. A rape “allegation” Fameis was never charged.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:53 am
Dreambig: Thanks! ill check that article out.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:55 am
yeah, all this nicey nice stuff impressions happening before he becomes a millionaire…it’s the aftermath of the money and fame that’s killed careers before.
still hasn’t ruled out baseball too. we want another bo jacksonish scenario? I would prefer a 100% committed “FOOTBALL” player and someone grounded in his lifestyle as well. The temptations will be endless for this con man. I for one didn’t get any great impression from the NFLN sequence with he and Mariota. Continually referenced being the “face of a franchise”. Saying everything that people want to hear. Con artist, indeed.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:56 am
13-1 lead in mock drafts over Mariota. So says the Tampa Bay Times.
March 11th, 2015 at 11:56 am
DON’T SHAME US WITH JAMEIS
March 11th, 2015 at 11:57 am
bucco brice Says:
March 11th, 2015 at 11:55 am
“yeah, all this nicey nice stuff impressions happening before he becomes a millionaire…it’s the aftermath of the money and fame that’s killed careers before.”
Pick a little, talk a little, pick a little,
Talk a little, cheep cheep cheep, talk a lot, pick a little more
March 11th, 2015 at 11:59 am
Good move by his agents, but like someone else pointed out, all presumed top 5 picks meet the Warden pre draft. To those who are giving him credit just for showing up, here’s the skinny, his agents have already “Loaned” him a chunk of cash, for all intents and purposes he’s their employee right now, that won’t change until he’s able to repay that “Loan”, he will do as he’s told until he has signed on the dotted line of his first contract and TLA can extract their loan, oh, and there is accruing compounding interest upon that loan.
March 11th, 2015 at 12:00 pm
A sewing circle of ladies gossiping about what Winston did now….and how bad it is.
Have fun ladies.
March 11th, 2015 at 12:02 pm
All this talk about “talking the talk” and “walking the walk”…. sounds right to me. So then should we not give this young man (still only 2 months into his 21st birthday) the opportunity to do so as an adult?…Really now.
March 11th, 2015 at 12:02 pm
I’m done trying to convince ppl to just have an open mind. I really hope u guys don’t get a microscope put on your life or the life of your kids. Kinda ridiculous but I bet if some the negative ppl’s dark came to light you guys would have “some ‘splaining to do”. (In my Ricky Ricardo voice). Lol. Is it enabling when you know the full story? Is it enabling when you spend time with the kid everyday and see the good as well as the bad? I don’t care, Jimbo’s wife allowed her white kids around this guy and no white woman I know would do that if this black kid was as bad as u guys say.
March 11th, 2015 at 12:09 pm
I love to see the usual group of racists coming out. Winston is damned if he does…damned if he doesn’t.
March 11th, 2015 at 12:13 pm
Good move by Winston.
March 11th, 2015 at 12:15 pm
refresh my memory…has any highly touted quarterback coming into the NFL had as many red flags as this dude?
March 11th, 2015 at 12:17 pm
What has Winston done?
1) Not been convicted of rape? That’s over. None of you were there so you cant say he’s guilty. Maybe he was? Maybe he weren’t? we will never know it’s over.
2) Shot a BB gun? give me a break. Frick’n BB gun.
3) Shouted obscenities? ooooh! ban him for life from the NFL.
4) Stole crab legs? Not good. But you all know that FSU players were getting hooked up at that Publix. Still not good though.
Derrick Brooks was getting free shoes. Payton Manning got out of a sexual assault charge. So didn’t Ben Roethlisberger in college and the NFL. Two of the Best QBs ever. Two HOF’s. Not only did they make bad choices but they smartened up and became two of the NFL’s greatest players. And there’s many more story’s like that in the NFL. It’s known facts that Ben and Payton did what they did but not with Winston (when it comes to sexual assault) So you people keep hating even though the only real bad thing that Winston was accused of was dropped by the police and Prosecutors. Hater’s Hate!
March 11th, 2015 at 12:23 pm
@noisewater
I’m firmly in the draft Winston camp and a lot of the comments and hatred are over the top but I am not seeing much racisism here. Just a reaction to winstons past and one sided media coverage. How about not throwing out the race card every time someone has an opinion different than yours.
March 11th, 2015 at 12:28 pm
a person that has made “bad” decisions…strike to the character card…all that needs to be said…bad decisions in life could also be applied to bad decisions on the field…gambling on change in the person with this selection
March 11th, 2015 at 12:39 pm
Won’t be his last communication with the league office….
March 11th, 2015 at 12:41 pm
BuccaneerBonzai Says:
March 11th, 2015 at 10:59 am
I have to say…the kid is doing the right things.
I still think Mariota will be the overall better QB…but if Winston is still pretty good, I won’t be too sad if we take him.
But I want MARIOTA!
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Well said bro. Im starting to feel the same way. I think I can give up the Trade Down dreams
March 11th, 2015 at 12:43 pm
3 month clean up job, of course his baseball agent is going to clean him up. No brainer, doesn’t change history and likely to repeat. Manziel cleaned up too amazing how he fooled many. Your life long attitude that has always been covered up for you doesn’t go away in 2 months. Agent doing his job hopefully Bucs take history in account and pass on this problem.
March 11th, 2015 at 12:52 pm
@Dreambig there has definitely been racist comments. Some have been subtle and some not but don’t kid yourself, they may not be very vocal but they are certainly here. Contrary to what the 3 pm host says, the Anti-Jameis crowd is much nastier toward Winston than the pro-Winston crowd against Mariota.
I am pro-Winston all the way but I have nothing harsh to say about Mariota, I just don’t want him as my QB.
March 11th, 2015 at 12:59 pm
@Luther
because there are no grounds to say anything bad about Mariota…clean as a whistle…and talented too 🙂
March 11th, 2015 at 1:05 pm
The other interpretation of this is that perhaps Winston has such an inflated sense of his own importance that Roger Goodell should want to speak to him. This could be the same kind of self importance that led to some of his entitled behavior at FSU.
March 11th, 2015 at 1:06 pm
3) Shouted obscenities? ooooh! ban him for life from the NFL.
Way to dismiss something serious by taking it out of context. He and by association the entire FSU program was trying to survive the scandal of a rape allegation and a clearly botched investigation. Which BTW hurt Fameis as much as the girl who made the accusation.
He and his program were under investigation of a very,very serious rape allegation. He and his buds admitted to the sex and what was at best a sleazy evening. But I get young guys and the little head thinking for the big head.
What I DON’T get is anybody so freaking damn dumb they are being investigated on rape allegations, it’s front freaking page news, it’s a major distraction for the program and what does Jameis do? Pours gasoline on that fire by choosing some of the worst language you could use while under investigation on a rape allegation.
I’m not against drafting Fameis. I am against all the apologists here trying to dismiss what was moronic behavior…or immature to be charitable..or the behavior of an incredibly physically gifted jock who has always believed he can say or do whatever he wants without ever considering how he made Jimbo and FSU look.
Forgive? OK Forget? Not right away. If we draft Fameis I’ll cheer with everybody else. But I will definitely keep my fingers crossed until we’re five years down the road and Fameis sudden conversion to respectability is proven to be genuine and not just a ruse to score millions of bucsk.
I am opened minded but anybody who is unconcerned is not. You have to at least concede the cause for all this concern and stop trying to bury it with lameass apologies and the lamest of all…charges of racism.
March 11th, 2015 at 1:11 pm
@salish_seamonster, @StPeteBucsFan
yes and yes…truth
March 11th, 2015 at 1:30 pm
I have no problem with people disliking him on character concerns. I’m just stating that I have seen comments that go way beyond that and are most certainly racially tinged.
March 11th, 2015 at 1:33 pm
“What has Winston done?
1) Not been convicted of rape? That’s over. None of you were there so you cant say he’s guilty. Maybe he was? Maybe he weren’t? we will never know it’s over.
2) Shot a BB gun? give me a break. Frick’n BB gun.
3) Shouted obscenities? ooooh! ban him for life from the NFL.
4) Stole crab legs? Not good. But you all know that FSU players were getting hooked up at that Publix. Still not good though.”
1) The rape incident: The people that were there destroyed video evidence…weird or what? Evidence that could prove guilty or not.
2) BB gun incident: Was the second one that same day. Told not to first time but….did it again anyways…..stupid and does not listen to authorities.
3) Obscenities incident: Problem was “what” he shouted while still be investigated for #1….just plain stupid!!
4) Crab legs incident: Like you said…. not good. BTW They do go good with lemon and butter!
March 11th, 2015 at 1:58 pm
Luther
I do not disagree that “some” posters have been racially motivated. IMHO they have been the small minority. But I’m not pollyanna and anybody who believes we are in a post racial America is obviously in denial.
Having said that though, and not you Luthur, but some others who have really come down hard on the racism charge are almost guilty of racism themselves.
Calling out Fameis for his bad behavior is not connected to his race. If it is then that would be the same as equating bad behavior with race. Clearly we have plenty examples of white players who have behaved more boorishly than Fameis. Poor behavior knows no color.
But I hear you Luther. I read the buzzwords. I haven’t read a “thug” comment in a couple of weeks now, and so IMHO the racism part has dissipated dramatically.
March 11th, 2015 at 2:04 pm
Winston’s agent told him to do this. Mariota likely will be the better quarterback. The best touchdown-to-interception ratio in the history of college football is impressive. JW looks to be doing his part but I prefer Mariota after watching more tape
March 11th, 2015 at 2:29 pm
@Lurker
“The best touchdown-to-interception ratio in the history of college football is impressive.”
And Timmy Tebow is right behind him..
So there’s that….
March 11th, 2015 at 2:38 pm
“People act like the kid held up a convenience store, while smoking crack”
I’d take that guy over JW.
at least that that guy was influenced by drugs which can be corrected.
JW is a mental case when sober, hell if he get’s on some drugs he’ll be clubbing b***hes and ranting on youtube about it.
March 11th, 2015 at 2:41 pm
Red flags, red flags, red flags…….
Honestly would we have ever even heard about the bb guns or the crab legs, or would we have ever heard about him saying actual cuss words in public if there hadnt been the rape alligations? That shiz put him in the spotlight and opened the door to all this other petty crap. Not to mention… Did he ever repeat the same mistake twice?
This entire situation has been grossly thrown out of proportion.
Some of you guys are right and all of his latest behavior has been because he finally has the right people around him, showing him how to walk the walk.
But, he is learning and this dude is bending over backwards trying to earn the respect from not only the common fan, but fellow players and NFL execs.
If you cant give him a smidgen of credit for that than I dont know what to tell ya. You are just terrible people that are disconnected from reality and apparently have never made a single bad move, especially as a teenager.
March 11th, 2015 at 2:55 pm
Josh P
Tebow is available….. How many teams are beating his door down to sign him?
This isnt just for you but give up already. Been there, they tried that and it didnt work. Im just tired of all the impractical solutions some of you guys throw out there. We should have signed Suh too I guess (sarcasm).
Tebow = Fail
March 11th, 2015 at 3:28 pm
I would argue that most races are racist against others of a different race. Much of it is learned from childhood through their parents and the older one is the more likely they are to be racist to some degree. Can’t deny it, people prefer their own race. The racist’s opinion’s are waning in this day and time, so that’s good.
March 11th, 2015 at 4:17 pm
Criminal! Rapist! Thief!
March 11th, 2015 at 4:37 pm
Sickofthedebate
Read your own post for answers.
“Honestly would we have ever even heard about the bb guns or the crab legs, or would we have ever heard about him saying actual cuss words in public if there hadnt been the rape alligations? That shiz put him in the spotlight and opened the door to all this other petty crap. Not to mention… Did he ever repeat the same mistake twice?”
There is no way to answer the first part of your question but I take your point.
Now you can accept mine. Fameis DID all of these things. I didn’t do them. The posters didn’t do them. He brought this all on himself. Now many wish to make the girl/victim? the scapegoat. She didn’t make Jameis scream f her in pssy while the investigation was still occuring!!!
Yes he did make the same mistake twice and has yet to prove he gets it. He did the same ignorant mistakes (put the rape accusation aside) over an over again. Because he’s been a talented athlete all of his life with people fawning over him when they weren’t trying to take advantage of him. Fameis has been taught that he’s above all of this.
Because I understand how fame and success can mess with people’s heads I’m very hopeful that Jameis has learned some valuable life lessons.
He messed up royally as face of the FSU franchise, let’s hope he can redeem himself as face of the Bucs franchise.
Jameis did not do all of this bad behavior on his own. He was lead into it by years of enabling and special treatment. I’d simply like to see the adults in the room stand up and finally say enough is enough. Perhaps that is exactly what is taking place. Better late than never.
March 11th, 2015 at 6:27 pm
Someone actually wrote “Don’t shame us with Jameis”…
Dude we’re the Yucs…
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Franchise Record…
Regular Season Record (all-time) : 235-376-1
Playoff Record (all-time) : 6-9 (Last appearance after 2007 season)
How could Jameis possibly shame us more than this mess??
To put it into perspective, we need to average 10 wins the next 15 years just to get the franchise record back to .500…
Super Bowls Won: (1) One Lucky one might I add…Don’t get me wrong, I’m thankful for being able to witness us winning the Super Bowl but…How one of the best defenses in NFL history gonna have the other teams offensive playbook?? Come on Man!…lol
I’m with Luther, I can wait to buy a Winston jersey…
March 11th, 2015 at 6:32 pm
can’t wait…lol..
March 11th, 2015 at 7:24 pm
Sickofthedebate
In no way do I want Tebow. Lol
My was towards people throwing out Mariota TD/iNT ratio as if that’s suppose to give us insight to his NFL future.
March 12th, 2015 at 12:51 am
Its gonna be precious to see all these bandwagon jumpers sniffing jameis’s jock after you make the playoffs this season..people wanna say “why are jameis handlers always saying hes a good person?” When thats literally ALL you hear of mariota..turn off the tape, please, lets talk about him being a choirboy..newsflash morons..dan marino = no choirboy, j kelly = no choirboy, t aikman = no choirboy, t brady = no choirboy, peyton = no choirboy (no, really, look it up)..so ignorant and righteous at same time? Mutually exclusive?? Lmao!! No wonder people laugh at florida..bucs will be most hated/envied team in nfl for next 12 years with jameis..book it!! Next years free agency will be the real game changer too..a lebronesque migration to tampa will take place. Mark my words, take a screenshot, i dont give a f.ug..lol!! I called lebron watching his state finals sophomore year in high school(im from columbus) pleaseeeee doubt this kid from the inside…it only drives him to make you even more miserable 🙂