Flushing Learning Curve Excuse Down Toilet
March 12th, 2015
Another new signing reveals the bigger picture
Yes, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers signed likely backup cornerback Sterling Moore in free agency late this afternoon.
But Moore represents a bigger picture.
That picture is Lovie Smith being sick and tired of the growing pains suffered by his defense.
That excuse has to die a speedy death — as in before the first week of August. Joe heard that excuse wayyyy to many times last year. Joe didn’t hear that coming out of Minnesota, where Mike Zimmer jumped into the fire, or in Cleveland.
Moore comes from the Cowboys, where Rod Marinelli coaches a defense nearly identical to Lovie’s
New signings Henry Melton (defensive tackle) and Bruce Carter (linebacker) also came from the Cowboys.
Safety Chris Conte? He spent years with Lovie in Chicago. So did Melton.
Keep in mind the Bucs re-signed potential free agents Danny Lansanah and Leonard Johnson. They know the system.
Joe is sure Lovie doesn’t want any defensive players thinking too much this season, just playing instinctively in his defense.
Now all Lovie needs is an edge rusher who can get off and play like a beast. Free agent defensive end Greg Hardy played in a defense just like the Bucs’, under Lovie’s former defensive coordinator, Carolina head coach Ron Rivera.
March 12th, 2015 at 4:30 pm
I was going to say something yesterday about signing him. He played well when Claiborne went down. This the off-season I’ve been waiting for. Love all the decisions to release players and add players with the exception of Conte
March 12th, 2015 at 4:31 pm
Bears South/Cowboys East.
March 12th, 2015 at 4:37 pm
Tampa Bay CowBears….or Tampa Bay BearCows????
March 12th, 2015 at 4:38 pm
Yeah, I wasn’t happy last year when the off season played out. Didn’t like McCown, Johnson or EDS signings. Didn’t like hirings of Tedford or Frazier.
Of those 5, only 1 is still here, so I guess my instincts were good.
FYI, Mariota Pro Day on NFLN right now. Mayock hinted that he might put Mariota at top of his list after both pro days.
“If they are even remotely close, you go with Mariota.”
March 12th, 2015 at 4:38 pm
Or Tampa Bay BearBoys….
March 12th, 2015 at 4:43 pm
We’d better have one heck of a draft. Aside from adding Carter, we have not gotten better. Conte sucked out loud last year. Melton is going to be a bit player at best.
Yeah, I know. They are going to excel in Lovie’s system……
March 12th, 2015 at 4:44 pm
Joe, not sure if you are watching Mariota’s pro day on NFL Network, but very interesting comment by Mike Mayock….I’m paraphrasing here….”If you’re tampa bay, and you think Winston and Mariota are in the same ballpark, you gotta take Mariota.” (Because he’s “cleaner” off the field).
I wonder if impressions of these Winston is starting to change? Mayock did have Winston as his #1 guy in his latest mock, but maybe that is changing now? Will be interesting to see how Mariota throws today and how he looks under center.
March 12th, 2015 at 4:44 pm
So we officially signed Moore then? I’ve only heard about him visiting.
March 12th, 2015 at 4:46 pm
@TheKevin THE TAMPA BAY MANBEARPIGS
March 12th, 2015 at 4:48 pm
Kraken, Kraken, Kraken!!!
March 12th, 2015 at 4:49 pm
i’ll wait to get excited, he brought in his bot mccown last year, that did not work out so well.
i bet these signings were all lured with the floppy hat club and flip flop mantra
March 12th, 2015 at 4:50 pm
I discredit anything mayock says anymore because when jamal charles went down in the playoffs he didn’t even know who the hell knile davis was. If you’re a college football analyst and you don’t know who the best back in the SEC was before he got injured at Arkansas then I don’t want to here nothing you have to say. And this was after he said Mark Barron’s floor (potential) was pro bowl lmao he didn’t even mention his ceiling.
March 12th, 2015 at 4:51 pm
if they sign JW, they damn well better sign AP and Hardy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 12th, 2015 at 4:51 pm
Dammit China,
That’s what I was going to say. I’m super cereal!!
March 12th, 2015 at 4:52 pm
This is what happens when you do not have an experienced, qualified executive running the organization. The Bucs are rudderless. Last year’s plan did not work, so throw it out and try something else. So tired of this.
March 12th, 2015 at 4:53 pm
Uh, EDS and Frazier still here. Tedford’s only gone bc of health. McCown would probably still be here if we weren’t drafting Winston with the first pick. He was the best FA QB on the market, Just saying.
I do like what there doing this year so far. Keep going!
March 12th, 2015 at 4:54 pm
Why does the all seem to be shaping into an utterly disappointing draft. Like a trade down and an edge rusher. Lovie thinks we can win with great defense correct. If he doesn’t get us a QB with the first overall pick I’ll be pissed.
March 12th, 2015 at 4:55 pm
Just get Marinelli then….because obviously Lovie can’t coach new guys to play the D. Seeing how some of us are saying Marinelli is what made Lovie in Chicago.
March 12th, 2015 at 4:56 pm
And if you’re basing who is the best qb off of a pro day then you should not have a job doing what you do.
March 12th, 2015 at 4:56 pm
Defense will have no excuses barring a rash of injuries.
The Offense (trenches in particular) has me very concerned… Very concerned.
Go Sucs!
March 12th, 2015 at 4:57 pm
@Jeagan1999
It showed Dirk chatting with him for a good 20 minutes too. I’m not certain Lovie is even there. Looks like Licht and Dirk…which leads me to believe they are trusting Dirk to decide.
And I’m pretty certain which way he’s leaning.
March 12th, 2015 at 4:58 pm
imagine the double dates Hardy and Winston can have!
March 12th, 2015 at 4:59 pm
@iamkingsu
Newsflash…the workout has not started, so it’s not based on the pro day.
March 12th, 2015 at 5:01 pm
Bonzai….Bucs director of player personnel supposedly there to.
March 12th, 2015 at 5:03 pm
Guys I know I can be a pain in the arse but I’m a writer and words matter.
@John
Not to nitpick your sentence…OK call me a nitpicker. 🙂
You said…”Melton is going to be a bit player at best.”
That’s simply untrue. I might be that Melton is a bit player or worse but that’s nowhere near his best. If he can reach half his best he’ll be a solid addition.
Remember Melton played for a brand new team last year, admittedly in a familiar defense, but coming off a knee injury. He now has another year of healing on that knee and with GMC and perhaps a Hardy to upgrade our rush it will make players like Melton and McDonald just that much better. Hate to be repetitive but football is still a team sport. Good players elevate the play of those around them.
BTW John here is what happens “at best”. Not saying it will happen but if it’s happened before it can happen again and so far in his career by definition this is the “best” that Melton can offer!
In 2012, during organized team activities (OTAs), Melton appeared in the backfield as a running back, resembling former Bears defensive lineman and fullback William Perry; Melton had not played running back since his days at Texas.[15] In the season opener against the Indianapolis Colts, Melton sacked Andrew Luck twice, as the Bears went on to win 41-21.[16] On December 26, Melton was named to his first Pro Bowl.[17] In the 2012 season, Melton recorded 32 tackles and six sacks, tied for third in the league among defensive tackles.[18] On March 1, 2013, Melton was given the franchise tag by the Bears,[19] worth $8.45 million.[20]
March 12th, 2015 at 5:03 pm
@bonzai
No s(h)it my tv been on nfl network since 2:00pm
March 12th, 2015 at 5:07 pm
Dirk was probably telling him about all the great weather we have here vs. Oregon: Hey kid you’re gonna love the sunshine.
March 12th, 2015 at 5:11 pm
YES!!!! TAMPABAY MANBEARPIGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now we just need to sign AL GORE as our new head of PR department!!!
March 12th, 2015 at 5:12 pm
Screen name officially corrected
March 12th, 2015 at 5:12 pm
Huddling up with his coach in the huddle??
March 12th, 2015 at 5:14 pm
double teams you mean
March 12th, 2015 at 5:15 pm
87ForJameisNOMariota Says:
March 12th, 2015 at 4:55 pm
Just get Marinelli then….because obviously Lovie can’t coach new guys to play the D. Seeing how some of us are saying Marinelli is what made Lovie in Chicago.
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You took the words right out of my mouth. Last year when people where saying lovie can’t coach and only won under rod n Rivera the “real fans” didn’t buy it. Now he showing all of us that he can’t develop or coach so he’ll just sign cast-off from rod n Rivera. That’s one way to do it. It sad really, if rod would have been able to come to TB I’d be excited. You could give lovie a team full of probowlers and he’d still disappoint. Oh my bad I’m supposed to be positive. Yey for lovie he’s the best? go bucs!
March 12th, 2015 at 5:21 pm
Mr. T Says:
March 12th, 2015 at 5:07 pm
Dirk was probably telling him about all the great weather we have here vs. Oregon: Hey kid you’re gonna love the sunshine.
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Until you have to play in it or just walk outside. Good luck playing in sept at 1pm. I know all your home games really prepared you to play in 98 degree weather.
March 12th, 2015 at 5:26 pm
I agree 1000% with Mayock…. Problem is Mariotta isn’t close to Winston. Everyone loves Mariota so they want to rank him higher…. But they can’t once they do the comparison. Embrace your future…. Jameis Winston QB Tampa Bay Buccaneers!
March 12th, 2015 at 5:40 pm
This is why you don’t judge stuff off pro days lmaoooo!! Because its a friggin pro day. Mayock should be embarrassed!
March 12th, 2015 at 5:45 pm
@joe
I saw that article with the gorillas before you took it down. But I didn’t want to comment because I was waiting for Mariota pro day to end. But that was poor taste for using that picture
It only came down because it wasn’t supposed to publish. It wasn’t even a story. There was no content to it, if you noticed. It was supposed to go in Joe’s draft folder. –Joe
March 12th, 2015 at 5:45 pm
Except Lovie took the Bears to the Super Bowl before Rod Marinelli even joined his staff.
That didn’t happen until 2009.
After Rod went 0-16 with the Lions.
Nice try though.
March 12th, 2015 at 5:47 pm
Nothing was impressive with his pro day, deep passed were off, poor velocity and placement and alot of check down throws
March 12th, 2015 at 5:49 pm
Mariota says “um” more than Obama.
March 12th, 2015 at 5:49 pm
Sitting here watching Matiota’s pro day, and NFLN’s Jerimeah is just ripping the kid, it’s kinda sad to hear this guy justifying his pick of Winston based on Mariota’s pro day….
March 12th, 2015 at 5:50 pm
Mariota done throwing….my thoughts:
Throws nice short and intermediate balls.
Needs work on some of the long balls.
No problems with the center exchange.
Put a little too much air under some of the throws.
Foot works still needs a bit of work, but not too bad overall.
Didn’t really throw a lot of different kinds of passes.
Did throw a few nice play action passes.
All in all, he looked a bit rusty and maybe a bit nervous, but as many have said before, you don’t make a decision off of a pro-day performance. The good news was no issues with the center or play action.
March 12th, 2015 at 5:53 pm
“Everyone loves Mariota so they want to rank him higher…. ”
That’s certainly not true on this board. And according to the Winstonites Fameis is now the pick in virtually every mock draft taken since March 1st.
And so two questions.
1.) What do you base your statement on? Everybody? loves Mariota?
2.) If this is true WHY? Remember MM is not a white player so please spare me any race cards.
March 12th, 2015 at 5:54 pm
Don’t thing MM did much to hurt or help himself today. As a Mariota guy I was a bit disappointed with the deep balls, and I would have liked to see him put a little more heat on some of his throws, but without a defense to throw against, he probably could have been a bit sharper!
March 12th, 2015 at 5:54 pm
HFXBUC Says
“I agree 1000% with Mayock…. Problem is Mariotta isn’t close to Winston.”
That’s not what Mayock said.
March 12th, 2015 at 5:55 pm
Everyone was less than impressed with Mariota’s pro day besides Mayock lmao. He’s f’n clueless. He has great mayockisms but that’s about it
March 12th, 2015 at 5:56 pm
Mariota says “um” more than Obama.
How about Sarah Palin? Does he sound as idiotic and uneducated as her?
IF you answer yes then we’ll know how bad Mariota really speaks. Does he mangle syntax like Sarah?
Now why can’t you just leave politics out of it. Your posting from an incredibly thin glass house. I’d just leave it alone!
March 12th, 2015 at 6:00 pm
A couple of Mariota Pro Day observations…
Every snap was under center. No shotgun throws…
Commentators said he made many throws he didn’t throw in the Oregon offense to show he could make them.
Did miss some deep routes….
Short & Medium routes, very crisp
Don’t think it revealed much we didn’t already know…except he took 60 plus snaps from center (looks fine there)
March 12th, 2015 at 6:00 pm
I’ve been saying he’s not even a 1st round talent but people look at his stats added to his athletic ability and try and put 2 and 2 together. I saw him play live he’s even faster in person but he has know natural qb feel. Helluva athlete though!!
March 12th, 2015 at 6:03 pm
getaclue Says
“Nothing was impressive with his pro day…”
Not true.
His footwork was good. He did 3 step, 5 step and seven step drops. He made pro plays. Yes, some of the deep balls need work, but he did get the balls out there, and not all of them were bad passes.
No quarterback completes 100 percent of his passes, and deep balls are the lowest percentage ones.
He threw off the proper foot on every play (something Winston cannot do), he handled the exchange from under center without any mistakes (something Winstonites claimed he couldn’t do) and he didn’t let the misses get to him. He took no passes from shotgun. Why? To prove he didn’t have to. They huddled plenty, something the Winstonites claim he can do.
Areas that need work?
His deep passes. When he stretched the players, they dropped the passes. So he started placing the ball a little short.
The hosts said his speed of release needed work…sorry, but they are totally wrong on that. Leading up to the combine, the complaint on him was that he played too fast. Ironically, he played at Winston speed today.
He was nervous at first, but got better as it progressed. Solid workout.
March 12th, 2015 at 6:03 pm
If he thought he was catching Jameis with that performance……..
Nope.
March 12th, 2015 at 6:06 pm
Damn mayock can back pedal (he was a former db) because he just told Mariota “I thought you ripped it” to his face. He mustve caught word what word of how everyone else felt about it
March 12th, 2015 at 6:07 pm
Sorry, Stpete
I’ll go back to sitting in my corner
March 12th, 2015 at 6:09 pm
@bonzai
Just let it go mane lol. Its over the footwork was even worse. He wasn’t getting even getting proper depth on his dropbacks smh. Winston was thee only pick
March 12th, 2015 at 6:10 pm
But Eric, has Winston even got close to Manziel as a prospect? We should still trade #1 overall to Cleveland since Manziel is so much better right?
March 12th, 2015 at 6:13 pm
If you’re nervous for a scripted pro day in a controlled environment that’s not the guy I want leading my team in a tight playoff game. I like Mariota I think he will do well in a few years. Wish him luck. Lovie needs Winston not a project.
March 12th, 2015 at 6:14 pm
The commentators and analysts were cutting up some of Mariota’s throws especially Casserly.
You wouldn’t know that from the MM crowd. They must have had the volume turned down.
March 12th, 2015 at 6:14 pm
In the redzone he was just throwing “catchable” balls. You gotta drive it down there everyone’s watching! They know what they see he was just trying to compete passes! That ish was horrible they can’t say it but I can
March 12th, 2015 at 6:15 pm
Mayock looked bad today. Real bad.
March 12th, 2015 at 6:16 pm
Robert 9, repeat after me.
Mark Arroyo’s gone.
Mark Arroyo’s gone.
Repeat often and when needed before you disparage last year’s Bucs offense and try to equate it to what might happen this year..
Good luck in your chanting.
March 12th, 2015 at 6:20 pm
@eric
Rivera was his DC in 06.
March 12th, 2015 at 6:21 pm
Mariota would be a good wildcat qb.
Number one pick?
Ain’t happening.
March 12th, 2015 at 6:24 pm
@bucrightoff
Good one……
March 12th, 2015 at 6:25 pm
C’mon bonzai! It was not a good pro day. Raised more concerns about his accuracy, something that I have seen as a problem for a while now. One of the analysts went so far as to say the a Eagles may not have to trade up for him. Sad day for the Mariota Mob. No way he can ever go 1st overall.
March 12th, 2015 at 6:26 pm
I saw Winston throw a pass in a FSU game 60 yards for a TD. I haven’t see Marcus throw a pass 60 yards when he steps into the throw. I don’t think Marcus has the arm strength to play in the NFL
March 12th, 2015 at 6:26 pm
^^ MM Mob member
March 12th, 2015 at 6:32 pm
Bucfan4life Says
“C’mon bonzai! It was not a good pro day. Raised more concerns about his accuracy…”
5 missed passes out of 65 attempts. I’d take that anytime.
March 12th, 2015 at 6:35 pm
Lovie will drafts Leonard Williams to stop this senseless feud. We are now divided into three factions (MGM, Winstonites, MM) There will be unification between Bucs fans.Our beloved leader shall lead us to the promised land of relevance. Peace will be restored.
March 12th, 2015 at 6:35 pm
87ForJameisNOMariota Says:
March 12th, 2015 at 12:45 pm
Oh yes let’s keep debating about Winston when it should be clear to all that he’s going to be the pick by now. Well not all…so keep it up the rest of you.
It gives you something to do all day.
I’m staying out of the fray as much as possible. There’s no need to banter on anymore about a guy that’s GOING to be the pick.
I’ll just sit by as much as possible and wait until draft day
Should I post this every time you post between now & the draft to remind you?
March 12th, 2015 at 6:36 pm
How did Winston do on his pro day?
March 12th, 2015 at 6:36 pm
Sarcasm
March 12th, 2015 at 6:37 pm
@tmaxcon
Mayock actually has been bad for years now. I was a mayock guy 08-09 becauseI needed someone other than kiper/mcshay. But after that Mark Barron comment before that draft rubbed me the wrong way. Today just confirms everything I’ve been saying about him for the last 3 years
March 12th, 2015 at 6:37 pm
Apparently buccaneer’s two hired psychiatrists have reported red flags on Winston scaring off Glaziers. Mariota will be the pick.
March 12th, 2015 at 6:39 pm
“No quarterback completes 100 percent of his passes”
Jameis did at the combine…
“He threw off the proper foot on every play”
At a pro day with no rush… who cares.
“he handled the exchange from under center without any mistakes ”
Wow… Sign him right now.
March 12th, 2015 at 6:42 pm
Buddha
If Winston scares the glaziers what’s greg hardy going to do? 84% want Hardy but only 48% want Winston due to off field issues please explain.
March 12th, 2015 at 6:43 pm
Clearly, I want Mariota…but…
…if we get Winston, I will probably support him longer than anyone as far as on field development. That’s what I do.
But off field? He get’s no room whatsoever. One shot. That’s it.
And, when Dawg hosts the quarterback show, I really suggest they don’t take calls.
March 12th, 2015 at 6:45 pm
Where is the ”the 1st rule of debate is to know that the other side’s argument holds merit” crowd at??. I’ve been telling you’ll the whole time that its not even close its not even a debate between the two. It never was!
March 12th, 2015 at 6:48 pm
@buddha
Lol. I love when people say stupid stuff.
March 12th, 2015 at 6:48 pm
“I did Ok”
“Unusual having entire focus on you, had butterflies”
Next……
March 12th, 2015 at 6:49 pm
WS99 Says:
March 12th, 2015 at 5:15 pm
87ForJameisNOMariota Says:
March 12th, 2015 at 4:55 pm
Just get Marinelli then….because obviously Lovie can’t coach new guys to play the D. Seeing how some of us are saying Marinelli is what made Lovie in Chicago.
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You took the words right out of my mouth. Last year when people where saying lovie can’t coach and only won under rod n Rivera the “real fans” didn’t buy it. Now he showing all of us that he can’t develop or coach so he’ll just sign cast-off from rod n Rivera. That’s one way to do it. It sad really, if rod would have been able to come to TB I’d be excited. You could give lovie a team full of probowlers and he’d still disappoint. Oh my bad I’m supposed to be positive. Yey for lovie he’s the best? go bucs!
Eric Says:
March 12th, 2015 at 5:45 pm
Except Lovie took the Bears to the Super Bowl before Rod Marinelli even joined his staff.
That didn’t happen until 2009.
After Rod went 0-16 with the Lions.
Nice try though.
March 12th, 2015 at 6:49 pm
OK we released Clayborn and he was pretty good
and we haven’t signed Hardy yet.
I’ll be shocked if they trade Glennon.
MGM!
March 12th, 2015 at 6:52 pm
I will be the first to admit Mariota was not as sharp as I thought he could be. That being said, he also answered a lot of questions. His center exchanges were crisp….all 65 passes were from the direct snap. His drop backs and footwork were also more than adequate to show that he can operate in more than just the shotgun. His short and intermediate passes were very crisp. He even turned his back to the plays and threw some nice play action passes.
Clearly he still has some work to do on timing…especially on the deep balls. Was it a great pro day? Clearly not, but I think he tried to do a lot and maybe a few things suffered because of it. He threw at the Combine much better. How many times have we heard “you can’t judge a guy by his pro day”? My guess is that if Mariota had been perfect all afternoon the Winston guys would have said pro days mean nothing, and they would have disappeared faster than Hillary Clinton’s email!
March 12th, 2015 at 6:52 pm
@Howard Cosell
Are you really in the MGM?? Those are few and far between. Hard to find nowa days.
March 12th, 2015 at 6:53 pm
Leonard Williams.We shall learn to Lovie the name. We shall Lovie the decision. In Lovie we trust.
March 12th, 2015 at 6:56 pm
Not the Kev
What’s your point?
March 12th, 2015 at 6:57 pm
ADown88 Says:
March 12th, 2015 at 6:48 pm
@buddha
Lol. I love when people say stupid stuff.
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What stupid stuff?
March 12th, 2015 at 6:59 pm
The private team workouts will be scrutinized by the teams much more…..because they choose passes that will be thrown often in the prospective team’s offense.
For example….all those sideline and deep routes that Jackson & Evans run.
Unfortunately with Arroyo….we threw those on 3rd and short….
Everyone…just keep their panties dry (not a shot at Winston’s accuser)
March 12th, 2015 at 7:04 pm
@WS99
This stupid stuff.
“Apparently buccaneer’s two hired psychiatrists have reported red flags on Winston scaring off Glaziers. Mariota will be the pick.”
March 12th, 2015 at 7:13 pm
Gotcha. Don’t make no sense to me either especially w all the Hardy and AP talk.
March 12th, 2015 at 7:15 pm
If it were even remotely true, or even a real rumor, it would be posted on every website and twitter feed in creation. Obviously this guy is making stuff up. Just dumb.
March 12th, 2015 at 7:17 pm
Geez…I guess the miserable season the cowboys has under kiffin didn’t count in the learning curve category. The what if talk that we engage in before the draft is just stupid
March 12th, 2015 at 7:41 pm
Hardy to Oakland. So mad I could scream. So we go into the offseason with our 2 biggest needs being d end and o line. Nothing rumbling on either except Hardy to oakland probably for pennies and Derrick morgan left w/o a deal. I’m fine not overpaying him but if nobody is reporting antrhing else it scares me they plan on drafting like 6 starters. Idk about thag
March 12th, 2015 at 7:42 pm
@Tbbf. The answer is YES. So should everyone.
March 12th, 2015 at 8:08 pm
WS99
Until you have to play in it or just walk outside. Good luck playing in sept at 1pm. I know all your home games really prepared you to play in 98 degree weather.
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Yeah, like no one has ever had to adjust to the heat here before. If Mankins can do it at his age do you really think a well conditioned young athlete like Mariota would have a problem adjusting, get real. Besides I think he would like the winter weather here much better than what they have up there.
March 12th, 2015 at 8:48 pm
bucs4lyfe Says
“Geez…I guess the miserable season the cowboys has under kiffin didn’t count in the learning curve category.”
DINGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!
Props to you. You just nailed it.
March 12th, 2015 at 8:50 pm
I have nothing to say here. I just wanted to pick on the “Kevins”.
March 12th, 2015 at 9:17 pm
“If Winston scares the glaziers what’s greg hardy going to do? 84% want Hardy but only 48% want Winston due to off field issues please explain.”
Directed at Budda but I’d like to take a stab. I’ve asked for the past three nights if Hardy has any other history besides the one domestic abuse charge? IE is he a serial offender.
Again I’m not against taking a chance on Fameis. But you guys are simply delusional if you do not believe his behavior has merited all this attention.
Fameis is a serial screw up. His defenders keep trying to take shoplifting and mischief with guns or cursing as kids cutting up in college.
NO. He was the face of the FSU franchise the face of their NC! Give him the benefit of the doubt on the rape but why didn’t he at least have the smarts to lay low instead of getting suspended for half of one of the biggest games of the year? Embarrassing the beejesus out of Jimbo and FSU nation.
This is not about comparing the degree of offenses it’s about establishing patterns and trying to determine from those patterns if there is any indication they may occur in the future. That’s just smart not hating.
I feel certain under this huge cloud of PR that the Glazers have done all the due diligence possible. IF after all that they decide to draft him then I’m on board.
Bring Fameis to town.
But could we please get him to change numbers? When I see the #5 on a Bucs QB I immediately think head case.
March 12th, 2015 at 9:29 pm
Another bad FA season for the Bucs
* signs a LB and will ask him to play out of his normal position
* Signs DT and will also ask him to play out of his normal position
* Signs a safety that got beat last year more often than Rod “Toast” Jones
* signs a reserve corner.
Are any of these signings a huge improvement from last year. Not really.
Lovie’s got 10 months left as coach
March 12th, 2015 at 10:15 pm
If the Bucs can stomach Greg Hardy, it would indicate they could stomach Jameis.
March 12th, 2015 at 11:42 pm
I’m not supporting Hardy and am puzzled by the support. However, it does speak to the fickleness of male football fans. He’s another guy who will likely end up in jail. I don’t get the winning is more important than character and how you play the game mentality.