NFL Players Like Winston Arrogance
February 25th, 2015
FOX Sports senior NFL writer and Joe’s friend Pete Schrager admits he left Jameis Winston’s news conference last week “rolling my eyes.”
Schrager was annoyed by Winston’s cocky attitude, as if Winston already had been crowned King Jameis. So Schrager reached out to NFL players to see if they were equally disgusted.
They were not. Per Schrager; the Winston way was adored.
“This guy thinks he’s going to play in Super Bowls against Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Is he delusional? Maybe,” Schrager said in a FOX podcast. “He believes it. He believes it. So, you know, as a person, if you worked with a guy like this and he was in the next cubicle over, you’d be like, ‘I can’t stand this guy.’ He’s an arrogant, unbelievable thing.
“But he’s not working in a cubicle. He’s a football player. And football players need to have confidence. They need to believe they can overcome adversity. And when you ask guys around the league, which I was doing, thinking that some of them would be like, ‘Yeah, right. I agree [Winston’s overly cocky].’ No, all of them [said], ‘Loved it. That was charismatic. He’s got swag. That’s what I want in a leader. I don’t want the softspoken type. I want a guy who’s going to grab a 10-year veteran who plays left guard, scream in his face and say, Let’s go.’ And that is a character-personality trait of Jameis Winston.”
So there you have it. NFL players want a boisterious, emotional leader.
Joe’s not surprised.
February 25th, 2015 at 3:05 pm
Michael Irvin was saying that during the combine but then again, that’s the type he was. Also Aikman was known to get on players/pump them up etc.
February 25th, 2015 at 3:08 pm
No doesn’t mean no to the Creeep #AccusedOfRape
February 25th, 2015 at 3:14 pm
We will see how much defensive linemen like his arrogance on Sundays! We know Keyshawn likes players that yell at their coach…
February 25th, 2015 at 3:14 pm
Barry, I’m accusing you of stealing my car. Doesn’t matter that you didn’t, the investigation will prove you didn’t and any judge/arbitrator will rule the same. For the rest of my days I will tell anyone I meet that I have accused you of stealing my car. Fair?
February 25th, 2015 at 3:15 pm
And I would bet some would like to knock that cockeyness on his a$$
February 25th, 2015 at 3:15 pm
And the Bucs need this Winning Arrogant Attitude more than any other team in the NFL!
February 25th, 2015 at 3:17 pm
Nick FTW!
February 25th, 2015 at 3:19 pm
Real recognize real.
Now you know what I means.
This is SPARTA!!!
February 25th, 2015 at 3:19 pm
barry, accused of being a foolish, malicious, jealous defamer.
win, it’s in his name
#winninwithwinston #justwinstonbaby
February 25th, 2015 at 3:20 pm
Just because he says he wants to be mentioned with the tom Brady and Payton he has a cocky attitude. If he said he is better than them yeah that comes off as cocky but wanting to be next to the bests in the game this guy sounds foolish
February 25th, 2015 at 3:22 pm
win, it’s in his name
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Do you think we should get Kellen Winslow too? Or, is that too many wins!
February 25th, 2015 at 3:24 pm
Mike Evans is cocky too and everyone loves him.
February 25th, 2015 at 3:24 pm
#barryisacarthief
February 25th, 2015 at 3:27 pm
can’t wait for all the haters to go root for the dolphins or jags after we draft jameis. i guarantee they’ll be back once he starts winning games for us. joe should be taking down names and charge those people a subscription fee to post after that happens. #lessaccomplishedhaters
February 25th, 2015 at 3:27 pm
Huge difference between cockiness and confidence
Confidence is when you know youre good.
Cockiness is when you need others to know it.
February 25th, 2015 at 3:29 pm
The #1 goal of each team each year is to win the Super Bowl. How dare Jameis Winston verbalize his confidence in his ability to contribute to a team’s success in achieving that goal. So immature.
February 25th, 2015 at 3:31 pm
I think too many people try to compare their career with the NFL. It’s not the same thing.
And there’s something to be said for that positive attitude, believing that you will succeed. There was nothing disrespectful. He wants to be great.
Again, this is about people who already don’t like him, who will look for any way to further not like him.
February 25th, 2015 at 3:36 pm
It sure sounds better than, “I’m going to get us to 6-10 and maybe save Lovie’s job”.
February 25th, 2015 at 3:37 pm
Deacon Jones, Joe Namath, Terry Bradshaw, Lawrence Taylor, Deion Sanders (FSU- Football, baseball), Warren Sapp, Terrell Owens, Ray Lewis, Shannon Sharpe, Richard Sherman.. Just to name 10 HoFers or soon to be.
February 25th, 2015 at 3:38 pm
Fisher said that Winston’s study habits are particularly impressive.
“Every night, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, we get off the practice field, he eats his dinner at 6:45, and then he’s up here in the offices until 9:30, 10, 10:30 at night,” Fisher said. “He would sit and watch every practice tape and then prepare for red zone, third down, whatever it might be. A lot of guys are very talented but he likes to understand the game.”
Looks like it is no accident that he is the smartest QB since Manning….
February 25th, 2015 at 3:39 pm
See? This is just another plus to Winston. I don’t know about you guys, but I friggin hate Cam Newton, and a lot of that has to do with his attitude. So if we draft him, we’ll have a Qb that the rest of our division will hate!!! If a panther fan hates our qb as much as we hate theirs, life will be good.
February 25th, 2015 at 3:43 pm
You guys remember when Barry stole that guy’s car?
February 25th, 2015 at 3:44 pm
Hey we already have a leader that Robert 9 and Barry can be proud of in Gerald McCoy who goes on national TV/Radio and say Suh is better than him. Regardless if that is the case or not just gives a little insight into that locker room’s attitude. We need Winston that tells his team before the game that “we ain’t leaving here without a W”. Then they go out and trounce Clemson by giving them one of the worst home losses in school history. Why was Jameis so confident? His answer “Because at Florida state, if we gonna do it, we gonna do it big then.” I’ll take that attitude over Suh is better and that is not to knock GMC as a player. I am talking about mentality.
February 25th, 2015 at 3:45 pm
#barryisacarthief
February 25th, 2015 at 3:47 pm
mike evans said he would love to play with Winston what else is there to say? mike evans is just as arrogant as Winston both are arrogant for good reason. you mad bro? that line came from Sherman because of all the trash tom brady was talking on the field. how can you be considered an alpha male but you have the personality of snoops or Charlie brown and your name is mariotta? we need attitude and toughness….that’s what more than half of our fan base was crying and complaining about, we don’t have the guy who takes the credit, blame for the failures and gets our players hyper and motivates them to play at another level. no want snoppy in the huddle calling plays like wah wah wah wha wha wha wha whaaa
February 25th, 2015 at 3:48 pm
If I remember right Chucky was a little self assured.
The man just stated his goals. Wants to win the Super Bowl, and compete against the best like Manning.
I say bravo young man.
February 25th, 2015 at 3:49 pm
barry stole my car as well
February 25th, 2015 at 3:52 pm
A lot of people talk about all the talent on the FSU team, and I agree.
The thing, it was already filled with 4 and 5* players before Jameis took over. The difference was at QB. If you look at how that team performed with EJ Manuel, and then the way they responded to Jameis, it shows, not just what a great passer can do, but what a great leader can do to transform a group of talented players to a team of winners.
February 25th, 2015 at 3:54 pm
“Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth”
Tyson
jababaoo aint gonna have his prized o line to help him out here. he gone get KTFO
February 25th, 2015 at 3:57 pm
Doesn’t matter. L & L are drafting Mariota. The ‘Winston to the Bucs’ hype is smoke. #MariotascomingtoTampa
February 25th, 2015 at 3:59 pm
^^^^Although the power of positive thinking doesn’t ALWAYS work.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:02 pm
Eric Says:
February 25th, 2015 at 3:38 pm
Fisher said that Winston’s study habits are particularly impressive.
“Every night, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, we get off the practice field, he eats his dinner at 6:45, and then he’s up here in the offices until 9:30, 10, 10:30 at night,” Fisher said. “He would sit and watch every practice tape and then prepare for red zone, third down, whatever it might be. A lot of guys are very talented but he likes to understand the game.”
Looks like it is no accident that he is the smartest QB since Manning….
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But lest we forget, Winston is nowhere near as good as the best QB prospect of the last 20 years (Manziel) is he?
February 25th, 2015 at 4:05 pm
Barry the car thief. Can’t trust that guy.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:05 pm
#winstonforpresident
February 25th, 2015 at 4:05 pm
Logic dictates my prognostications. Everything Winston can do physically, Mariota can do as well. And then Mariota adds the elite athleticism and character to the equation. Done deal. #Mariotasthesmartchoice
February 25th, 2015 at 4:07 pm
Erik, if Lovie and Licht take Mariota, I promise I will actually click on CleanAthletics.com.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:07 pm
Wait just a minute!!!
Doesn’t anyone remember that Johnny Football was simply a cocky, arrogant little SOB and the rest of the NFL couldn’t wait to bury him into the turf?
So why do they suddenly like Winston?
Is this a racial deal?
February 25th, 2015 at 4:10 pm
yall know their gonna be playin Public Enemy – Can’t Truss It in the creepy crab section @ ray jay right.
sellin “not guilty” T shirts, roofies and free soda.
can’t wait!
February 25th, 2015 at 4:11 pm
like Love and Warrick Dunn said…..If you look at how that team performed with EJ Manuel, and then the way they responded to Jameis, it shows, not just what a great passer can do, but what a great leader can do to transform a group of talented players to a team of winners.
show me a guy that thinks glennon or mccown inspired hope of pulling out a victory and i’ll show you a guy who thinks the bucs should trade down and keep average talent at the most important position and a guy who thinks we should trade down to get more talent that could end up being just as average. you gonna give your first second and third round pick this year and next year i’d think about it and still i’d pick a quarterback
February 25th, 2015 at 4:13 pm
Evans said he wanted to play with Mariota. A coach that he knows said so.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:13 pm
I’d rather have a guy that says he wants to be compared to Brady and Manning that a guy flashing money signs on one play. Winston’s work ethic matches his words. Can’t knock a man that works to back up his talk instead of partying like he’s already made it.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:15 pm
McCown was a great cheerleader too…
February 25th, 2015 at 4:17 pm
Why would the team with the first pick do a smoke screen?
February 25th, 2015 at 4:17 pm
jaboo is to the NFL what Tony Stewart is to nascar
February 25th, 2015 at 4:19 pm
I am more convinced now than ever that he is the right guy. And I’m at Gator.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:19 pm
“Skyline Crew Says:
February 25th, 2015 at 4:13 pm
Evans said he wanted to play with Mariota. A coach that he knows said so”
This coach?
https://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=129693
February 25th, 2015 at 4:20 pm
#barryrapedmycar
February 25th, 2015 at 4:21 pm
Nick don’t respond to Barry. I think he may be a little challenged. He came up with creepy crab moniker and thought it was somehow clever and used it over and over. Your statement to him is what I said to him a long time ago. He doesn’t but it may not be his fault. I suspect he is a little slow and can’t think critically!
February 25th, 2015 at 4:22 pm
Negative people don’t like confident or slightly arrogant men or women. That’s facts! Especially when they’re black.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:23 pm
Why are the Bucs blowing smoke with the 1st pick?
I am seriously asking because other than trading down why would L&L being blowing smoke?
1. It’s highly doubtful the Bucs want to trade down with a clear need for a QB
2. Lovie unprovoked starts off the combine and declares that so far nothing they have found takes Winston takes him off their draft board and can see him as the face of the franchise. And then goes on to praise his leadership and throwing abilities as a QB
3. Licht sits down with Peter King and while discussing Mariota, changes the subject to Winston and pulls out a play from his phone, again praising Winston. And in another interview also mentions face of the franchise.
4. All the talk we have seen from L&L on Mariota says he is a great kid and athlete but always stops short of saying he could be the face of the franchise.
5. An overwhelming amount of chatter from behind closed doors at the combine all point to the Bucs drafting Winston.
I could go on but the point is everything heavily points to Winston, yet the Mariota supporters say it’s just Lovie and Licht blowing smoke and point to the Greg Bedard article on MMQB, Charles Davis (who admitted on Path to the Draft he could switch), Bill Polian on ESPN, Pat Kirwan on Sirus (who just changed to Winston) and Chris Landry who buries his info behind a pay wall.
My question is why are they right and everyone else is wrong?
February 25th, 2015 at 4:23 pm
@LWD,
No it think it was a different one. Either way he said it so that means Evans said it.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:23 pm
Love and Warrick Dunn Says:
February 25th, 2015 at 4:19 pm
“Skyline Crew Says:
February 25th, 2015 at 4:13 pm
Evans said he wanted to play with Mariota. A coach that he knows said so”
This coach?
https://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=129693
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Skyline Crew
bad words bad words, stick your toothbrush in the toilet rub it in soap then wash it out….we want Winston in this town lol
February 25th, 2015 at 4:25 pm
Winston could not have performed behind that line last season. Nor would another NFL QB. The defense gave away games people will claim Winston would have made a comeback and won BS. Even when Glennon or McCown put the team back in striking distance with the 1st down some idiot like Dotson, Mankins or EDS would draw the flag and put them back in long yardage again. Time after time. Winston will not solve the problems this team has now.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:26 pm
intresting he picked AFC quarterbacks.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:28 pm
Tom Edrington Says:
February 25th, 2015 at 4:07 pm
Wait just a minute!!!
Doesn’t anyone remember that Johnny Football was simply a cocky, arrogant little SOB and the rest of the NFL couldn’t wait to bury him into the turf?
So why do they suddenly like Winston?
Is this a racial deal?
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I didn’t know that the article stated that Schraeger only asked current black football players if they had a problem with Winston’s confidence. I thought he said “And when you ask guys around the league, which I was doing,…….” That sounds like he asked players of all races. Not sure how someone can see a racial bias there unless you yourself was a racist first. If that is the case, then it makes sense why Winston is viewed as the anti-christ to some.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:29 pm
@Bucfan4life
Well now I feel bad. What about Robert 9?
February 25th, 2015 at 4:32 pm
@bucs4lyfe
Skyline Crew
bad words bad words, stick your toothbrush in the toilet rub it in soap then wash it out….we want Winston in this town lol
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LOL
February 25th, 2015 at 4:32 pm
Barry is a car theif and Winton is a winner
February 25th, 2015 at 4:33 pm
Can we dispel the notion that all Winston supporters liked Manziel?
I have always thought Manziel’s size and style of play will get him killed. Additionally, he freelanced far more than any NFL OC wants. Who wants to spend the week sleeping on the office couch creating a game plan for Manziel to go through one read then start running around playing sandlot? He’s a great improviser, but to a detriment.
Plus, it sounds like Manziel didn’t study. Winston’s football IQ is high because he puts the time in. Completely different players.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:33 pm
@Robert9
Jameis is too smart to get hurt.
Don’t you know the scouts say he is the smartest QB since Manning?
Highest QB grade since Luck.
Go Jaboo. Keep proving them all wrong, like at the combine…….
February 25th, 2015 at 4:34 pm
It’s very likely that Manziel turns out to be a bigger bust than Leaf.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:36 pm
thanks for the laugh fishfry.
it’s called class. some of us don’t like people with no class, no matter what the color. and I am a highly positive person, but also have strong opinions. a lot different than being negative. I did not bust on johnny football last year, cause he was a joke and had zero chance of getting picked by the bucs IMO. Winston has a very good chance, so I actually have an opinion on the matter
February 25th, 2015 at 4:36 pm
#barrysodomizedmycar #tailpipeisdrippingastroglide
February 25th, 2015 at 4:37 pm
Thanks for point that out BucFan20. All Bucs fan are completely unaware that the o-line sucked last year. However I do have a question, with 6 draft picks after the first one and a boatload of money to spend in free agency do you think there is a chance that L&L might address that issue!
February 25th, 2015 at 4:40 pm
Tis what I said last night.
Swagger is coming back to Tampa and it’s sooooooo badly needed.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:41 pm
did they address it last year bucfan? cause we sure needed it then too.
there’s a chance, but they’ll probably wait for late round scrubs and overpriced FA. until they prove me wrong, thats what i expect.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:42 pm
@Bucfan4life
look what they did last year. You really trust them to and get it right?
February 25th, 2015 at 4:43 pm
You also said this 87…
87ForWinstonNOMariota Says:
February 24th, 2015 at 11:28 am
Brady ran a 5.28. Manning ran a 4.8. Luck ran a 4.67
Winston has been clocked at 4.60 in the past…
I’m still laughing at it..
February 25th, 2015 at 4:44 pm
Bucfan4life Says:
February 25th, 2015 at 4:37 pm
“Thanks for point that out BucFan20. All Bucs fan are completely unaware that the o-line sucked last year.”
All? All Bucs fans are unaware that the o-line sucked last year?
All of us? Stevie Wonder could see that.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:46 pm
Id say they got it extremely right with their first round selection last year.
Who is also a very, very confident player.
Which, I have never heard one buc fan complain about.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:50 pm
I really do think confidence is more accurate description than arrogance. As Jimbo Fisher alluded to in the NFL interview, the thing that makes his teammates and anyone else who interacts with him like him so much, is the fact that he doesn’t put himself on a pedestal….he’s “just one of the guys”
February 25th, 2015 at 4:51 pm
Also true not many got all riled up when Mike Evans, after being drafted by the bucs, got in a fight in that Miami nightclub, and threw a punch at the bouncer – jumped over a car, etc.
Seemed kind of immature.
Went on to have a great rookie season.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:51 pm
Depends. That may work at first with some of the younger guys, but he will lose the locker room quickly if the wins don’t come FAST! That only works if your winning, if your losing, then it just becomes an annoyance. I also believe players will follow a quiet leader, ive never seen Russell Wilson yell at anyone.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:51 pm
Confident is one thing. Making stupid predictions puts a target on your back.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:55 pm
@ Eric.
Nobody is talking about Evans
The topic is the line and other holes.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:56 pm
He did not make a prediction. He says he wants to win the super bowl and compete with Manning.
He did not predict he would do so.
Its a goal.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:58 pm
There’s no doubt a vocal leader is better than a quiet “leads by example” one. As another poster said, this type of leadership will work when winning, but the kid will have to learn when to dial it back too, something he hasn’t really shown but is probably capable of.
It’s mind boggling to me how someone who is apparently incredibly smart could do all the stupid things he’s done. He was a top recruit out of high school and with that arrogance, I’m sure he thought he’d be a top draft pick set to make millions. So how do you risk all that time after time?
Hopefully he’s done with that sh*t, but I wouldn’t bet money on it.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:58 pm
I also still believe that the leaders on this team will have a say so on who gets drafted, Gerald McCoy will have to agree to have this guy on “HIS” team, I remember an interview when they asked him about Richie Incognito joining the team, and he said ” This is my team, and he wont be doing those things here”.
February 25th, 2015 at 4:59 pm
@ Robert Says:
it’s called class. some of us don’t like people with no class, no matter what the color.
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Thats the problem. Your definition of class is not the end all be all of what class mean. I am sure there are people out there that would feel your definition of class rivals Rosanne Barr. Instead of embracing the individuality of a person, you shun them because they do not conform to your tunnel visioned sheltered thought process of how someone should act in order to appease your ego or deficiencies. This society would be a better place and less judgemental if we could simply understand there is more than one way to skin a cat.
February 25th, 2015 at 5:00 pm
#Barrystolemycartoo
February 25th, 2015 at 5:01 pm
Oh it will be addressed this year. Who knows if they will get it all right but they will will try to fix that swinging gate that we called an offensive line last year. It was definitely offensive,
February 25th, 2015 at 5:01 pm
The car wanted it.
February 25th, 2015 at 5:04 pm
@ Supersam,
Mccoy does not have a say who joins the bucs. He was asked would he have a problem with Incognito. He said he does not make those decisions, but if he is signed, I will let him know this is my team and I won’t tolerate some of that stuff. Mccoy has no say so in who the bucs pick. Next you will say the cook will have a say because he does not like cooking crab legs. lol
February 25th, 2015 at 5:06 pm
Why do all you Winston haters keep talking about the rape charges. three different times he was not found guilty. Could it be that the BIMBO who agreed to go to his apartment is looking to make some money. Why didn’t she file charges until she found out he was on the football team? She claimed she was drugged but the toxology report found no drugs in her system. After the alledged rape she gets on his motorcycle and they drive away together. Who gets rapped and does that. There must have been reasons why he was not charged. The other stupid and mature things he did..yes, immature..But if you look at some of the frat brother’s at FSU, I bet Winston would look like a saint. I think she has lied about the rape charge and is only waiting for him to sign his contract before she takes him to court for her big pay day. Give the guy a break..He’s learned his lesson the hard way, and will probably will lead the Bucs to a Super bowl in a year or two.
February 25th, 2015 at 5:09 pm
I’m sure it’s the same way convicts feel about the leader of their respective prison gangs. Yuck.
February 25th, 2015 at 5:09 pm
“Nybucsfan Says:
February 25th, 2015 at 4:51 pm
Confident is one thing. Making stupid predictions puts a target on your back.”
Because paid professionals only play hard when their opponents publicly aspire to be great.
“If only Winston had said he wanted to go 6-10, then I would have taken it easy on him.”
-said no player ever
February 25th, 2015 at 5:12 pm
Oh ok so now your comparing Gerald McCoy the guy we just signed to a 100 million dollar contract to the cook? Yea right bro, and id be willing to bet they’ve already asked McCoy on his thoughts of who he prefers quarterbacking his team.
February 25th, 2015 at 5:14 pm
it’s been solved by barry jo yall. the bimbo planned this out month’s and month’s ahead. she wanted it because she went to his apartment. well, damn, I could have raped about 30 women and missed my chance. guess I should have been a football player.
February 25th, 2015 at 5:15 pm
#barryrapedmytailpipe
February 25th, 2015 at 5:20 pm
Phillip…I did read that prior to draft.
I also saw this though earlier.
Jameis Winston, QB, rSo, Florida State, 6-4, 232, 4.86 40 yard
He did run a 4.67 as a senior in high school….I’m pretty sure of that.
February 25th, 2015 at 5:22 pm
so, by the time he is 30 he should be running about a 7.7 40?
February 25th, 2015 at 5:24 pm
@Supersam
Here’s the McCoy quote:
“I don’t make the decisions. I leave that to the guys upstairs,” defensive tackle Gerald McCoy said. “But as far as I’m concerned, as long as he can help the team, I’m all for it. I played against him a couple times, he’s a good player, a Pro Bowl guy, a vet. And I think he can help.”
Besides perhaps a franchise QB like Brady, please post documentation of ANY player ever getting asked about their opinion by a front office, especially, a defensive player on a QB.
Otherwise, you have no proof whatsoever. If you want to believe that in your mind, fine, but, don’t expect anyone else to go along with it.
February 25th, 2015 at 5:33 pm
Talent is God given. Be humble. Fame is man-given. Be grateful. Conceit is self-given. Be careful.
John Wooden
February 25th, 2015 at 5:38 pm
He said I plan on winning a Super Bowl next year. Sounds like a prediction
February 25th, 2015 at 5:43 pm
@ Supersam
Your continuous off base post never cease to amaze me. I wonder if the bucs asked double nickle if it was okay not to resign one of his best friends and roommate Warren Sapp. My guess is they did not because if they had, Sapp would have never played for Oakland. Players are paid to play and not make personnel decisions. You are just too funny bro.
@ love and Warrick
Thanks for the direct quote. I was paraphrasing McCoy and obviously Sam was lost. Thanks for the clarification.
February 25th, 2015 at 5:45 pm
Please stop comparing Winston to Manziel, Johnny was a douche and broke so many NCAA rules; didn’t even respect his parents. What NCAA rules did Winston break, he was never even charged with rape so chill, and he was a young kid having fun with that other bs.
Also Manziel had terrible mechanics, was undersized, and doesn’t have half the football IQ Winston has. Manziel was the 3rd or 4th prospect last year in a weak QB draft class. Winston is apparently the pack leader in an impressive draft class.
Smoke screen? Impressive that L & L confide their game plan with you.
February 25th, 2015 at 5:45 pm
@ NYBucs fan
I plan on winning (optimistic/confident) and I will win (guarantee) the superbowl are two different things. I will use it in a sentence for you………….I plan on living until I am 90 years old (optimistic). I will live until I am 90 years old(guarantee). See the difference?
February 25th, 2015 at 5:48 pm
Maybe we should go draft a guy that is planning on going 2-14.
February 25th, 2015 at 5:55 pm
@Barry
Another Gator loving yokel who doesn’t know what the crap he’s talking
February 25th, 2015 at 5:55 pm
Lol McCoy ain’t leading any team anywhere except into a ditch with how often he jumps offsides on critical down and distances. He ain’t a dog, he ain’t alpha, hes tje best player on a bad team. I can’t wait to see Winston get in his face after he jumps offsides.
Jameis may sound arrogant and ignorant to walking- stiff-first-class-flying executives but he’s a pack leader of a group of mean dogs. I too am looking forward to gettin our swag back.
February 25th, 2015 at 5:58 pm
I’m dang sure planning on going to watch Mr. Jameis Winston, smartest QB since Manning, play for the bucs next year.
February 25th, 2015 at 6:04 pm
Well ….that does it for me…..”NFL Players like his arrogance”….I had to look up the word to be certain.
“having or showing the insulting attitude of people who believe that they are better, smarter, or more important than other people”
I’m sold……Winston is definately my man now!!! (sarcasm in case anyone might question my turnaround)
You wouldn’t want family members or spouse to be arrogant….a boss to be arrogant….a neighbor to be arrogant….freinds to be arrogant…..but it’s a characteristic you admire in a QB….
February 25th, 2015 at 6:05 pm
Tokyo Rose-Tokyo Joes
February 25th, 2015 at 6:05 pm
I know a couple of black guys that also don’t want Winston….guess they are either racists or Uncle Toms
February 25th, 2015 at 6:10 pm
“Tiny Tim Says:
February 25th, 2015 at 5:45 pm
@ NYBucs fan
I plan on winning (optimistic/confident) and I will win (guarantee) the superbowl are two different things. I will use it in a sentence for you………….I plan on living until I am 90 years old (optimistic). I will live until I am 90 years old(guarantee). See the difference? ”
He may see the difference, but, he won’t admit to it.
February 25th, 2015 at 6:12 pm
Jameis will not lose the locker room. He has some faults, but it has never been stated he wasn’t prepared and he was a locker room cancer. If true, you would have heard a lot more by now.
Shouldn’t have to make stuff up to build your preferred pick.
#barryisacarthief
February 25th, 2015 at 6:15 pm
So you believe everything you read that is positive on Winston? But refuse to believe any of the negative.. Makes sense
February 25th, 2015 at 6:18 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo had to look this word up…..Pablo knows some arrogant hombres….a couple of them run drug cartels….some others are federales who like to kick Pablo’s a$$. Pablo had an ex Senorita that was arrogant….Pablo would have dumped her sooner but she paid Pablo’s rent. Pablo doesn’t want his QB to be arrogant….but he likes his nose guards to be that way”
February 25th, 2015 at 6:21 pm
Matt Says:
February 25th, 2015 at 5:55 pm
Lol McCoy ain’t leading any team anywhere except into a ditch with how often he jumps offsides on critical down and distances. He ain’t a dog, he ain’t alpha, hes tje best player on a bad team. I can’t wait to see Winston get in his face after he jumps offsides.
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Brother, brother is that you? (Tear) I think I just found my new best friend. #bff
February 25th, 2015 at 6:23 pm
Bob Kraft on meeting Tom Brady for the first time ever, post draft:
“And he looked me in the eye and said ‘I’m the best decision this organization has ever made”
I will take arrogant all day. Not to hang out with, or work with, but, to command a roster filled with alpha males that play against other alphas? Heck yeah.
February 25th, 2015 at 6:24 pm
“It was an immature thing to do, not an intentional thing to do with malice. He sees himself with everybody. He doesn’t put himself above everybody; that’s why, I think, people flock to him, and his leadership is such a big deal. Because he is a genuine, honest people person, and he gets caught up. I think he understood that. It was a moment of him being 19 years old and making a critical mistake. But I think those mistakes are very easily corrected. Character issues are different, and I don’t think he has those.” – Jimbo Fisher
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February 25th, 2015 at 6:25 pm
#Winstonpullsmorethanbarry
February 25th, 2015 at 6:32 pm
People who watched that interview had OPINIONS, some thought it was arrogance, and most thought it was admirable confidence. So look up whatever definition you want but I didn’t think it was arrogance.
Sorry Winston compared himself to proven winners in this league, it’s really terrible that a young prospect is setting the bar high for himself. He should really lower his expectations so he won’t have to worry about failing, said no champion ever!
I’m willing to wager anyone who called Winston’s interview arrogant has never been a champion, known what it takes to physically and mentally push themselves at that level. Keep playing it safe and “humble” boys, let me know how it works out. As a fan I want someone who truly believes they are the best, that is the first step in becoming the best.
February 25th, 2015 at 6:33 pm
WS99 Says:
February 25th, 2015 at 6:21 pm
Matt Says:
February 25th, 2015 at 5:55 pm
Lol McCoy ain’t leading any team anywhere except into a ditch with how often he jumps offsides on critical down and distances. He ain’t a dog, he ain’t alpha, hes tje best player on a bad team. I can’t wait to see Winston get in his face after he jumps offsides.
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Brother, brother is that you? (Tear) I think I just found my new best friend. #bff
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#ws99takesonalover
An ice cream man hating brotha from anotha motha.
February 25th, 2015 at 6:34 pm
I am making a documentary called Car Hunting Ground. It will focus on
why people like Barry steal cars. This will give @Nick an opportunity to win over the court of public opinion in hopes he can prevent Barry from posting in the future. We will only let @Nick tell his story exactly how he wants. We are going to ignore Barry’s claim that @Nick give him the keys!
February 25th, 2015 at 6:36 pm
LOL Dreambig – good one.
February 25th, 2015 at 6:38 pm
LOL@Dream
February 25th, 2015 at 6:40 pm
@daniel
I’m going to put this here. Apparently you and I are the only people who notice Marriota’s footwork needs a lot of work. In addition to not getting the depth he needs he also throws off his toes, he doesn’t plant the ankle. Like I’ve said before Dan Marino (nfln 7th most mobile qb lol) says its all about the footwork.
http://soshcentral.com/nfl/nfl-draft/2015/02/23/the-footwork-of-marcus-mariota-vs-jameis-winston/
February 25th, 2015 at 6:42 pm
@ Daniel
Joe called it “arrogance”….not confidence…..he chose that word deliberately and is a Winston supporter….certainly confidence is an admirable trait…..arrogance is confidence gone wrong!!!
February 25th, 2015 at 6:47 pm
Some people have reading comprehension issues on these threads.
Maybe read something a couple times before responding to see if you fully understand what is being written
February 25th, 2015 at 6:59 pm
WS99 – that article/link gives a really well presented and easily visible illustration of the differences in footwork between QBs 1a and 1b.
I see some people on here trying to say that Winston has “fundamentals” issues – but all you have to do is watch the kid do his thing and see that its just effortless for him. Like throwing a 50 yard bomb with perfect touch that drops right into the receivers hands in stride. Effortless.
Winston to Evans long is going to be a thing of beauty for many, many years.
February 25th, 2015 at 7:00 pm
Yungry Says:
February 25th, 2015 at 3:14 pm
We will see how much defensive linemen like his arrogance on Sundays! We know Keyshawn likes players that yell at their coach…
What does your point of view has to do with the article?
February 25th, 2015 at 7:02 pm
If I hear “face of the franchise” one more time it will be too soon.
February 25th, 2015 at 7:05 pm
loggedontosay Says:
February 25th, 2015 at 7:00 pm
Yungry Says:
February 25th, 2015 at 3:14 pm
We will see how much defensive linemen like his arrogance on Sundays! We know Keyshawn likes players that yell at their coach…
What does your point of view has to do with the article?
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Read the title of the article…
February 25th, 2015 at 7:07 pm
This would be one thing I like about Winston over Mariota.
February 25th, 2015 at 7:09 pm
Dude! Where’s my car?
I bet that SOB Barry stole it!
February 25th, 2015 at 7:16 pm
Winstons 40 time is Not nearly as important as other factors like when you sign him are you prepared to deal with the civil trial media circus? Is he going to play baseball? Can he keep out of trouble? Are we going to have to trade him so he can be a star on another team Like the Bucs have done over and over?
February 25th, 2015 at 7:23 pm
Not one team has a how any eagerness to trade up to get jw. Gee I wonder why not.
February 25th, 2015 at 7:25 pm
buddha Says:
February 25th, 2015 at 7:23 pm
Not one team has a how any eagerness to trade up to get jw. Gee I wonder why not.
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Because, nobody wants to draft a thief first overall…
February 25th, 2015 at 7:30 pm
@Nick:
Barry, I’m accusing you of stealing my car. Doesn’t matter that you didn’t, the investigation will prove you didn’t and any judge/arbitrator will rule the same. For the rest of my days I will tell anyone I meet that I have accused you of stealing my car. Fair?
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This is great. Well done.
February 25th, 2015 at 7:33 pm
Barry is a world renowned car thief.
Everybody knows this.
If your car is missing, Barry took it.
February 25th, 2015 at 7:36 pm
@buddha:
What would the point be? The combine reinforced the fact that Jameis is coming to Tampa. Teams are transitioning now to the rest of their draft board. Teams also didn’t bother trying to trade up for Luck either, so surely nobody wanted him right?
February 25th, 2015 at 7:37 pm
@Nick…Barry cut me with a switch blade.
February 25th, 2015 at 7:39 pm
DraftJameis…there’s still some stragglers that are in disbelief. Give it a couple of more weeks.
February 25th, 2015 at 7:43 pm
I’m so fired up over Winston. For me, it has always been draft Winston or trade down but Winston’s knowledge (see Mariucci video) and his leadership and confidence (see any of his interviews) makes me forget about trading down. Draft this dude. He will not let us suck.
February 25th, 2015 at 7:54 pm
I like that last line cmurda.
New catchphrase.
“Draft Winston – not the duck. Jameis will NOT let us suck.”
February 25th, 2015 at 8:17 pm
EJ Manuel had both Rashad Greene and Kelvin Benjamin to throw to.
Greene:
57 rec , 741 yards , 6 TD’s
KB:
30 rec , 495 yards , 4 TD’s
What happened when the freshman replaced the senior?
Greene:
76 rec , 1128 yards , 9 TD’s
KB:
54 rec , 1011 yards , “15 TD’s”
Winston (as a freshman) boosted production by %50 over his senior counterpart. Was it talent? leadership? a better overall team? It was probably a combination of all of that.
Nole fans will tell you, this guy brings an attitude that his teammates respond to. I want that in Tampa, and according to this article, most players agree.
February 25th, 2015 at 8:35 pm
@WS99
Mike Evans is cocky? What the hell are talking about? He’s been very humble and quiet and mature every time I’ve heard him off field. If Winston has a rookie season comparable to Evans, the new super bowl trophy should be him on top of a table shouting a offensive slur
February 25th, 2015 at 9:13 pm
87, no matter how people say we will be drafting Jameis, don’t count it until the actual draft. I’d literally bet my house that Mariota wins over our front office by draft day.
February 25th, 2015 at 9:13 pm
*how many people
February 25th, 2015 at 9:17 pm
BARRY! you can steal my truck and run over some of these clowns. just kidding people.
February 25th, 2015 at 9:19 pm
Eric, you should get the red jersey! Tell 87 not to buy you the WalMart one either…
February 25th, 2015 at 9:38 pm
I’ve been Lol at the fact that Barry car-thief vandal degenerate,
but it’s really a false analogy.
I would bet a lot of money that if one were to check Barry’s
criminal history one would find zero instances of automotive
sexual assault, as well as zero instances of car theft or even
suspicion thereof. Furthermore if one were to interview every
acquaintance of Barrys again you would find zero stories of
car theft or the like.
I yield the balance of my time.
February 25th, 2015 at 9:38 pm
Strong with the offense, both are. Skilled warriors they are. But humility you must have. Place yourself at the top of the mountain, do you? Before the journey has even begun? Pride like that, to the dark side always turns. Teammates, friends and family, to the top of the mountain they help, step by step. By yourself, only the depths will you see.
February 25th, 2015 at 9:41 pm
Winston all day over silent Mariota and backup Glennon. It’s become so obvious
February 25th, 2015 at 9:44 pm
Great looking QB prospect. Buyer beware.
February 25th, 2015 at 9:45 pm
I absolutely love Yoda’s wise comments. Nice job
February 25th, 2015 at 9:52 pm
Damn. Yoda is wise.
February 25th, 2015 at 10:07 pm
Who the hell wants to play for Mr. soft spoken, lead by example in a CONTACT sport – NO ONE! nobody cares about your “character” when it’s 3rd and 6 in the 4th qtr down by six – they care about whether you have the balls to stand up in the huddle, take control and will them to the end zone, no matter what! to expect anyone from the NFL to say different is a joke…
If you don’t have the swag, stay home- JW has plenty of that, no worries…
He was never charged with a crime after so much public scrutiny – if there was something there how has nothing come of it after what two years? and the other incidents are of an immature 19 year old – um I worked at u save in south tampa in high school, my friend used to hook me up with free steak and cheese subs- what a surprise a college kid got some free grub from his “friend” – I yelled stupid stuff before in a crowd trying to be funny and ended up looking like an idiot….sound familiar? Promise, I have no criminal record and have never been to jail for anything!
He is a kid still at 19, mine are 21 and 17, I speak from experience
I gotta admit a few months ago I was unsure, but he is growing on me…
February 25th, 2015 at 10:39 pm
If Winston is the obvious choice they won’t waste anymore of Mariota’s time and not invite him to work out here. If he does come in for a workout then there’s nothing obvious except lazy so called experts not doing all their homework. Has anyone even given thought to maybe the Bucs are putting stories out to the media just to see what the public’s reaction is gonna be. I’ll be happy with either, but the reception the fanbase is currently given about Winston being the choice is not all roses. Do people really believe the Glazers are not considering the fans with this pick? If you believe that then you’re simply fooling yourself.
February 25th, 2015 at 10:42 pm
So THIS is where you guys are hanging out. I was on the wrong article.
February 25th, 2015 at 10:50 pm
@chris k Winston is my choice but they have to invite them both just for due diligence. I would find it hard to pass up Winston though. If the Bucs omehow blow it and draft Mariota, some team is going to be very happy with Winston and I would expect him to have a chip on his shoulder from being passed up. If he’s going to be great, and I think he will, we are due for our own great QB.
It’s our turn, take Winston and start winning.
February 25th, 2015 at 10:52 pm
“Erik with CleanAthletics.com Says:
February 25th, 2015 at 9:13 pm
I’d literally bet my house that Mariota wins over our front office by draft day.”
I’m not sure you understand what literally means.
If you do, I’m positive there’s a sportsbook taking drafts bets. So, by all means, show us, don’t tell us.
February 25th, 2015 at 11:18 pm
@Luther. There is no guarantee either will be great. There are plenty of people who do believe Mariota’s skillset is actually superior to Winston’s. Factor in the possible matuarity issues Winston will have when ge gets paid and the level headedness of Mariota, this makes this far from a lock. Why do due diligence if it’s a lock. When i find the car I want i buy it. I do go driving across the country trying to save a buck.
February 25th, 2015 at 11:19 pm
Don’t go driving across country. Stupid phone
February 25th, 2015 at 11:34 pm
@chris k. When you find that car you want to buy, don’t you test drive it? And…. Just to make ship sure don’t you test drive one or two others to confirm your selection?
February 25th, 2015 at 11:41 pm
Cmurda. That is 100 percent correct. They are taking Winston for a test drive! They will take Mariota on a test drive as well. You made my point for me. It’s not a lock yet. Once i decide I buy. No decision has been made yet.
February 25th, 2015 at 11:48 pm
@Luther, agreed! Its time we have a great QB for a change. I’ll admit, I thought he wouldnt impress much at the combine but he was on the mark with all of his passes. Plus I didnt realize how high his football IQ was. He’s very sharp.
Most of all, he’s not scared to come play for Tampa. He wants it! That changed the little doubt I had in him. I want players who WANT to be here.
February 25th, 2015 at 11:54 pm
Of course no decision has been made yet. Mariota will be in for his test drive but he will have to surprise and impress whereas Jameis is already the car that is wanted. That’s basic due diligence. RG3 declined meeting before 2012 draft to do a private workout with Indy. It was pretty much obvious that Luck was going #1 and RG3’s agents said no thanks. If everything continues to go as it has leading up to the draft, this could look like a replay this year with Indy now being Tampa.
February 26th, 2015 at 12:04 am
In this case, you do your due diligence on Mariota in case Winston f’s up again badly between now and the draft. Neither of them are going to go behind One Buc Place on a sunny Tuesday in March and show the Bucs anything (of much substance) they haven’t seen on tape already. If Jameis is somehow stupid enough to get popped by the cops within the next 9 weeks, the Bucs can easily wash their hands and say Mariota was the guy all along.
February 26th, 2015 at 12:19 am
@chris k disagree on Mariota. I was going to write something else but really there is no need for us to say other than we disagree. We are almost 60 days out and us fighting amongst ourselves is silly. I am going for a truce and will only say that I think Winston is the right pick and nothing more.
February 26th, 2015 at 12:24 am
I’m sure this has been posted and I hope this doesn’t tick Joe off, but here’s the sweet video of the Winston – Mariucci interview? Jameis absolutely nails it. I’ve watched this for 4 days and still can’t believe Winston’s knowledge.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine-total-access/0ap3000000473191/Mooch-puts-Winston-to-the-test
February 26th, 2015 at 12:37 am
You think because Mariota doesn’t play to the camera that he’s less football smart? That’s not what every coach who knows him says.
February 26th, 2015 at 12:37 am
The fact that I am always at the deep bottom of these posts shows how polorizing Jameis is. But to say that no team has offered to trade up is ignorant. They may have, but are the Bucs stupid enough to trade away a franchise QB for other picks. I would bet anything that they HAVE had offers that they are not gonna field because you cannot trade for a franchise QB to a team that needs one!! He is the real deal, and he was falsely accused, one year after the “rape”, by a gold digger!! I can tell you now, if someone rapes me, I am gonna scream on the steps of City Hall the moment I am set out of the police station!!!! My Winston #5 jersey is just waiting for the moment NFL.com lets me order it. Enjoy your hypocritical lives, haters, when this badass erases the RACIAL karma that ASSHOLE Culverhouse put on this team when he f%cked Doug Williams and Bo Jackson with HIS racial bias, and f%cked the Bucs for years as a result.
February 26th, 2015 at 12:49 am
Great, I think Barry just stole my car… He was last seen standing on a patio table yelling “I am gonna drive that car right in the bushes”!!!
February 26th, 2015 at 1:01 am
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo wants to know about this car stuff….Pablo doesn’t test drive cars….he just takes what he wants and if he don’t like them, he just finds something else. Pablo usually likes to take the cars nobody else wants….that way they don’t come looking for it””Pablo thinks this “test drive” might be a gay thing with Winston”
February 26th, 2015 at 1:03 am
LOL TBBF
It is only 10 here but it is late there. Damn the off season sux
Keep up the good fight bro. Im going to bed
February 26th, 2015 at 1:12 am
All of these arguments make a great deal of sense….passion…nfl ready….makes all the thows….simply immature, not a problem….leader…..NFL ready…..young….smart….great football mind……
And then….you get inside the head of the Glazers…..all bets are off!!!
February 26th, 2015 at 1:29 am
racial karma? and what color is josh freeman.
February 26th, 2015 at 1:43 am
Did I mention that Josh Freeman was sleeping in the back seat when Barry stole my car?
February 26th, 2015 at 1:46 am
I love traffic on the sight but my god if you guys havent figured out that people like Barry are attention seeking trolls without a clue in the world that you wasted life on-you need to think about it. Whether it’s Winston or Mariota(Licht having a saved play of Winston on his phone says a lot) there will be thousands angry at the decision. I mean think about it, there are actually people that want a tackle
February 26th, 2015 at 3:47 am
I remember when we drafted #99, man what a cocky SOB, man he hurt this franchise when we needed someone like that. Stupid draft pick Dungy and Mckay, cocky guys ruin weak minded franchises!
February 26th, 2015 at 7:01 am
No Barry i dont want to buy a car cheap
February 26th, 2015 at 7:20 am
“DraftJameisSays” says….”If Jameis is somehow stupid enough to get popped by the cops within the next 9 weeks, the Bucs can easily wash their hands and say Mariota was the guy all along.” Therein lies the problem with this guy. You said it all in your defense of him. You’re concerned with NINE WEEKS…..NINE WEEKS. Based on his well documented history, he’s due for another episode…..ohhh….any day now. But it’s ok…he might keep out of trouble until after the draft…….sheesh people….wake up.
February 26th, 2015 at 8:00 am
Has anyone seen Tom Brady on the sidelines?
February 26th, 2015 at 10:23 am
Phil Says:
February 26th, 2015 at 8:00 am
“Has anyone seen Tom Brady on the sidelines?”
Exactly Phil exactly. He gets in WR’s and the OL’s faces and chews them out if needed. Fires them up when need too.
Not saying Winston is the next Tom Brady, but I will say that he’s got just as much fire and energy to him than Tom.
It will be like giving the Bucs a much needed adrenaline shot.
February 26th, 2015 at 10:50 am
I may have stolen cars, really don’t remember. But I can tell you one thing, I’ve never raped a man’s young daughter like a known FSU QB has been accused of. #RapeIsSeriousCrime #NotAlaughingMatter Any man with a daughter should be outraged and not condoning the act of rape. #shameful.
February 26th, 2015 at 10:55 am
Isn’t it curious that some are saying #TheCreepyCrab is the smartest most clutch player they’ve ever been around? I mean Payton Manning, Montana comparison…but he does the dumbest things and acts stupidly…What are people trying to sell here? Trying to push him to 1st pick? Mariota to Philly? You people really that gullible? So he should ace Wonderlic. Right? #LipstickOnApig
February 26th, 2015 at 11:31 am
Isn’t it curious how Barry the car thief also likes to have intimate relations with animals and prefers either goats or llamas. That’s the accusation anyway. #barryisagoatflocker
February 26th, 2015 at 11:47 am
Hey Barry, I have a daughter, and I am also an American so I’m pretty thankful that we do not have a proven guilty upon accusation law. Read the report, pretty much an average college night. Nothing nefarious to it…
But as Broy34 deduced, odds are you’re just a troll as opposed to someone that is actually that misguided, so hope you are living the dream. #NotGuilty #TrollsarePeopleTooNOT #SorryNotSorry