Licht Dances On Veteran QB Questions
February 18th, 2015Will Tampa Bay repeat the Josh Freeman mistake?
Joe has trouble imagining a scenario in which the Bucs don’t land a seasoned veteran to help guide their new rookie QB and compete for a backup job.
At the very least, Joe would expect the Bucs to sign a veteran QB body to compete through training camp, a guy who could serve as a sounding board to the rookie. Sorry, but Joe doesn’t consider Mike Glennon to be that experienced voice for a youngster to lean on, and the Bucs’ new QB coach has never coached the position in the NFL.
General manager Jason Licht jumped on SiriusXM NFL Radio this morning with Rich Gannon and Bruce Murray to talk all things Bucs, live at the NFL Scouting Combine.
Licht was very candid, but not when it came to a question about the quarterback position.
Licht was asked about adding a veteran quarterback in free agency, and whether he considered Glennon a veteran. Licht did not answer either question directly, or claim that Glennon could serve that lead dog role.
“We really like Mike a lot. Our new coaches like him,” Licht said. “He’s a guy we want to continue to work with. We have a lot of different options that we talk about. Do we want a third quarterback? Are we, you know, we’re going to leave all our options open in the draft, too. Right now, we like Mike Glennon and we’re going to move forward with him.”
Again, this fuzzy answer was not typical in Licht’s candid interview.
If the Bucs don’t bring in a decent veteran QB to challenge for the job, then they’ll have zero leverage in trading Glennon. So that’s another reason it should be done.
February 18th, 2015 at 4:10 pm
Matt Moore if they bring in a vet
February 18th, 2015 at 4:15 pm
I’m drawing a blank right now. Who is the second qb on the roster now??
February 18th, 2015 at 4:18 pm
We have a Veteran QB….MG
February 18th, 2015 at 4:18 pm
Kafka
February 18th, 2015 at 4:18 pm
Glendon has been in the league for two years and is said to have great film study work.
How many years does a player have to be in the NFL to be considered a veteran. it’s only one year isn’t it Joe.
At least we don’t have a coach who will take the new QB out to any after hour bottle clubs when the days work is done.
February 18th, 2015 at 4:19 pm
How much candor can you expect about the QB position at this point? Public statements need to be deliberately fuzzy to obfuscate their draft, trade, and free agency intentions.
February 18th, 2015 at 4:36 pm
I still don’t understand why everyone is so hopped up on trading Glennon. He’s a solid number two and a guy that you can throw in there to start a couple of games if, heaven forbid, Jameis gets a little nicked up.
February 18th, 2015 at 4:38 pm
Lovie and Licht are not going to give anything away at this point. Just lots of smoke
February 18th, 2015 at 4:42 pm
What do you want him to say…..”Sure we are going to bring in a veteran QB in FA or trade a draft pick for one…..and, by the way…we plan to trade MG”
February 18th, 2015 at 4:42 pm
they won’t get a vet before the draft because they will want everyone thinking they are going QB. then they will trade down, start glennon and get hoyer or matt moore to back him up.
simple as that.
February 18th, 2015 at 4:43 pm
This is almost getting stupid already, you have the first pick in the draft!!! Why beat around the freaking bush so much? CMON MAN
February 18th, 2015 at 4:49 pm
‘Are the Bucs going to repeat the Josh Freeman mistake and bring in the QB who has almost the identical skillset and body type as JFree?’
Answer: Nope.
February 18th, 2015 at 4:51 pm
I don’t think Glennon’s going anywhere Joe. I think it’s going to be Glennon and Winston.
February 18th, 2015 at 4:51 pm
@Robert 9….I like your style 🙂
February 18th, 2015 at 4:54 pm
@ Mad Max
Kafka was released 10/27
our QB’s now are Glennon and Lobato I think we got is on the practice squad.
February 18th, 2015 at 4:57 pm
Freeman was a career 59% passer in college. Winston is a 66% passer. Far, far more accurate.
Only the same skill set in your eyes.
As far as body type, sure, NFL front offices are going to shy away from 6’4′ and over players with size to not get pulled down because one guy failed.
I doubt Licht and Lovie would follow that logic.
February 18th, 2015 at 5:00 pm
L&W..you can’t compare college stats with pro stats…..
February 18th, 2015 at 5:05 pm
At Robert9……Agreed, been thinking the same thing. Hate to see them pass up on Winston but maybe they know something about Winston, or Glennon that such a move makes sense.
February 18th, 2015 at 5:08 pm
Freeman was a project coming out of K State with a lot of draft analysts giving him a 3rd round grade.
Raheem campaigned for him and going into that draft it was the worst kept secret in the NFL that we would take him, Denver threw smoke and Dom panicked to trade up to 17.
I bring up this history lesson because we brought in Leftwich to be the starter as Freeman was a project and probably would have sat the entire season if we had gotten off to a decent start. The knock on Free then and even now is his accuracy.
This has never been an issue with Winston so to compare the two is laughable
February 18th, 2015 at 5:19 pm
Tebow and Manziel were nearly 70% passers in college, showing just how meaningless college performance is in projected pro success.
February 18th, 2015 at 5:24 pm
Matt Moore looked REALLY good the year before they drafted Tannehill. I was surprised as good as he was playing they didn’t give him another shot. I believe he took over for Chad Hennee toward the late middle of that season and came just in reach of the playoffs. Not sure but thats what I remember…Moore, Hoyer, Foles, Glennon. All very similar QBS, Moore a little more mobile than the rest. I still think Glennon deserves 2015 whether we draft a QB or not….he will be oiur best chance to win with Koetter hands down. I’d be happy to put some greenbacks down on that…
February 18th, 2015 at 5:30 pm
Thats bc manziel and tebow ran a gimmick offense. U idiots kerp on believing mariota is not a bigger project. I guarantee he is no where near the grade of winston. Thats why jason said its not 50 50 bc the evaluation is not a close race. So shove that up ur self righteous asses
February 18th, 2015 at 5:33 pm
Ian – are you the real former Buc Ian?
February 18th, 2015 at 5:36 pm
Everyone KNEW Carolina was taking Newton. Everyone KNEW Indy was taking LUCK. NOBODY knows what the Bucs are going to do.
I think the only reason the media and analysts say the Bucs are going to draft a QB is because they know they are too stupid to see the potential in Glennon.
I wish the draft were here already…
February 18th, 2015 at 5:40 pm
“the Bucs’ new QB coach has never coached the position in the NFL”.
Joe – I’m curious why you keep saying this in a way that suggests Bajakian is not qualified to teach the young QBs without a “veteran” QB to “help”. The statement is a fact but the inference and the context in which its said suggests that you don’t think he’s qualified. Are you happy with the Bajakian hire based on what you know about him? I mainly ask because I’ve read and heard a # of good things about the guy and am excited he was hired. You seem not to be. Your thoughts?
February 18th, 2015 at 5:55 pm
Ufcguy do you not understand NE and Denver run the spread? GB and SF run the pistol? This isn’t the 70’s when only Dallas ran shotgun! Most snaps are shotgun, spread, pistol and read option. The NFL copied the college offenses!
February 18th, 2015 at 6:12 pm
If information and reports are true, there is no way we take Winston 1st overall. If he has character issues, and there is a good chance he does, you avoid this guy. Remember, a leopard can’t change its spots. We can’t afford to miss on this guy. Mariota seems like everything you want from a character standpoint…and if you don’t think his skill set/decision making abilities equate him developing into a franchise QB, you trade down for additional picks, and fill other areas of need.
February 18th, 2015 at 6:17 pm
Seth Labato or something like that is the 2nd QB. He was signed to a futures contract when the season ended.
February 18th, 2015 at 6:28 pm
“JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:
February 18th, 2015 at 5:00 pm
L&W..you can’t compare college stats with pro stats…..”
I was using Freeman’s college stats with Winston’s college stats.
February 18th, 2015 at 6:33 pm
Wait a damn minute is “black” a skill set?? Because those are the only two things josh Freeman and Winston have in common!
February 18th, 2015 at 6:36 pm
Wearing number 5 must be the other skill set you’ll refer to also because that’s the only other similar attribute that they have in common!
February 18th, 2015 at 6:45 pm
Great recall Ian. No doubt we could have had Free at No. 2 at the highest. Guess we had that pick reserved to waste on someone like Regis Benn. I swear,
I thought the last couple of drafts McKay did were questionable but they were downright horrible under the Dummynick.
No wonder the team finished at 2-14 last year.
February 18th, 2015 at 6:49 pm
The best back up QB option the Bucs have is Glennon, hands down. If they trade him, they’ll be looking at guys like Sanchez, McCoy, Vick, etc. No thanks. Keep Glennon.
February 18th, 2015 at 6:51 pm
Wow TDBucs2002, did you think that Leopard quote up all by yourself.
I’m blinded by the light.
I don’t see any leopards, tigers or bears in this draft. All I SE are human beings and every human being has the capability to change. Despite what you think, many do.
I love dogmatic, simple morons like yourself.
February 18th, 2015 at 7:27 pm
WINston!!!!
February 18th, 2015 at 7:36 pm
“Right now, we like Mike Glennon and we’re going to move forward with him.” If you start with the bottom line the answer becomes less fuzzy.
February 18th, 2015 at 9:23 pm
Hey dd
It is rare that people do a complete 180 as you would seem to believe…you are so smart or so you think. Leopard spots is figurative, you idiot. No need to get personal, but since you have. How about this you retard…once a thug always a thug. Maybe you can figure that one out!
February 18th, 2015 at 10:23 pm
carlstoe Says:
February 18th, 2015 at 5:55 pm
Ufcguy do you not understand NE and Denver run the spread?
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I must’ve missed the part where Brady and Manning run a lot.
BTW, it’s “A cow can’t change his stripes”.
February 19th, 2015 at 8:08 am
You call seattles offense a spread? Wow…