“I Think Glennon, He Should Be The Future Of Tampa.”
February 9th, 2015
Awaken the Mike Glennon Mob!
A man inside the Bucs’ locker room last season weighs in on the ousting of Tampa Bay’s young quarterback.
Joe had a very long chat with former Bucs starting linebacker Jonathan Casillas during Super Bowl week in Phoenix. Casillas, of course, was traded to the Patriots in late October, when the Bucs were 1-6.
Among other things, Joe wanted Casillas’ take on the real feelings in the Bucs locker room when Mike Glennon took over for Josh McCown, and what the six-year veteran thought about the stunning switch back to McCown.
“I don’t know why they switched back,” Casillas said. “To be honest with you, I was a huge supporter of Glennon and McCown. As much as McCown did in Chicago for part of the [2013] season, Glennon taking the reins and a terrible team in the first half of last year and winning four games in the second half [last season] was just as good.
“That’s all attributed to Glennon. Defense was playing well, but we had to have a quarterback in there making the plays. And he made a lot of big plays. He’s got an incredible arm, you know. I think his future is very bright. Hopefully, Tampa can figure that situation out. That kid is very talented.”
Were you surprised when you saw Glennon was pulled from the starting lineup in November? Joe asked.
“A little bit surprised. Yeah, a little bit,” Casillas said. “I feel like Glennon played well when he came in for McCown. When Josh started the season off, he didn’t play as well as he wanted to, as well as he expected to, and well enough to win games for us. And Glennon’s so young and played pretty well when he did.
“We felt good in the locker room about both quarterbacks when I was there. But Glennon was like a fresh breath of air. It’s tough when you’re losing. You know, you feel like anything will work. The locker room was happy to make a change to Glennon. You see a coach make a change when you’re doing bad, you feel like it’s going to be good for you no matter what. The Glennon change, even though it was due to injury, I feel like it gave a little confidence and we won the next game, which was great for a team that played poorly without Glennon in there.
“I think Glennon, he should be the future of Tampa. The respect for him is there.”
February 9th, 2015 at 10:11 am
No thank you give me winton
February 9th, 2015 at 10:11 am
helllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll no!
February 9th, 2015 at 10:17 am
coming from a guy with two SB rings who has played with the best QB’s in the game.
MG will be your starter next year.
February 9th, 2015 at 10:20 am
Lol it’s funny to hear professionals and analysts come out in support of glennon.
Then all you idiot experts come on here and act like you all know something or are smarter than the people that actually live the life.
I’ll take a pros opinion over any of you moron commenters that think you know something. When in reality not one of you know jack sh*t about anything.
And I’m not in the glennon mob.
And there is not any guarantee that winston or mariota would be any better. Just pure speculation.
You’re all stupid.
February 9th, 2015 at 10:21 am
All this proves is we know for certain that Casillas will never be a front office guy in the league and that he can’t judge talent.
Cement shoes with NO heart is not the answer. The quickest way for lovie and his clown posse to get fired is by NOT drafting Winston.
So I guess you could look at this way starting Glennon could be good for the franchise, it will get Lovie out of here faster.
Glennon will be very successful on some small town radio station with his punk brother. Since radio is dead he wont be harming anyone there. just like newspapers and magazines, Radio is dead just like his nfl career with the bucs.
Draft Winston and Fire Lovie… Save the bucs.
Barry I want to by you a lap dance. Your hatred and blind logic about Winston is astonishing. You need to loosen up. Pick a place. Bring Mr. Patrick too and that clown nybucsfan.
And for the life of me how can you people keep worrying about Winston being up all hours partying when there is ZERO evidence the guy is a club rat. Comparing him to freeman and manziel just weakens the argument against. Focus on the facts don’t make them up to suit your agenda
February 9th, 2015 at 10:23 am
Because “jughead” and “jerseybucfan” are experts lol.
Idiots that don’t know sh*t.
February 9th, 2015 at 10:24 am
God no.
Yea he should be the future if you like a lot of losing. And boring/predictable/uninspiring qb play sure. O and 30th ranked offenses too.
February 9th, 2015 at 10:25 am
MGM4LIFE!
February 9th, 2015 at 10:25 am
@tmaxcon
Go be a pats fan you stupid hater. You are not a bucs fan at all. Just a loser troll.
Thank god you’re not in the front office. Moron!!!
February 9th, 2015 at 10:28 am
“The Kevin” calling someone a troll is absolutely hilarious!
February 9th, 2015 at 10:28 am
knucknbuc —- What you described is Lovie ball to the TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE….. Remember, you do not need points and football does not start until November.
Send Lovie back to his basement or a museum for has been / never was relics.
February 9th, 2015 at 10:30 am
Switch OLs with GB and we win at least 10 games with Glennon
February 9th, 2015 at 10:33 am
Sounds like the Kevin missed his school bus again.
February 9th, 2015 at 10:33 am
TheKevin
Good morning Superfan!!!!! I promise that I will try and be more like the all wise and knowing TheKevin… I appreciate your enlightenment. Your extensive vocabulary and attention to details, has forever changed my hating ways. However, your willingness to blindly support a mediocre coach and a losing team is commendable. Winning is the goal just in case you forgot that.
Lovie for President and Glennon for VP is that better Kevin.
February 9th, 2015 at 10:34 am
not saying he’s right, but when you win 2 rings behind drew brees and tom brady, MAAAAAYBE you know what it looks like to have a QB who is up to the task…..
February 9th, 2015 at 10:39 am
In all honesty why would any owner bet the future on a QB with NO HEART and double digit loses. Raise the standards people. Regardless of all the excuses the Lovie and Glennon nut huggers want to make the facts are the facts Lovie made a bad team worse and Glennon loses football games. I don’t want to hear one word about the Pittsburgh game. Glennon did not win that game, Pittsburgh LOST it. The only way glennon is a successful QB is if you give him 10 ALL PROS on offense. That is not practical in today’s league. Glennon had 19 chances to prove he can lead men and make people around him better and he FAILED.
Make all the excuses you want but the Win Loss record is all that matters.
February 9th, 2015 at 10:43 am
Glennon just doesn’t make sense….why would he have been benched? Valuable experience was missed.
Koetter is the key….if you look at his comments on what he admires in a QB….Glennon fits the mold…..Toughness, Big Arm, Football smarts….
But, I just don’t think so….
February 9th, 2015 at 10:46 am
You guys hating on Glennon so much will change once you see him with a better O line and some WR’s who dont have stone hands like Vjax….whether its with us or another team, he will do very well. But I hope we keep him.
February 9th, 2015 at 10:50 am
Tampabaybucfan
Toughness! Come on TBBF you are better than that. Toughness really…. come on man… I disagree with your stance on Winston but I respect your opinion but calling Glennon tough is not accurate. He jumped out of bounds every chance he got and that first down he missed was unforgivable. McCown showed toughness each and every week he got killed. Glennon not so much.
February 9th, 2015 at 11:01 am
Rolling my eyes.
February 9th, 2015 at 11:01 am
If he’s not here next year I just don’t want to see him in Arizona. I think there’s a pretty good chance he ends up better than any of the QBs in this draft if someone like Arians gets to develop him. QBs don’t become superstars overnight, go look at Tom Brady’s numbers early on, good but not superstar stuff. It’s only when the 2007 16-0 season comes along that he takes the next step to a truly elite QB.
I mean his only trip to Seattle Glennon has outperformed Aaron Rodgers in his last 3 attempts there. I’m not saying he’s Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady, but he’s nowhere near as bad as people make him out to be. Especially when you apply context and circumstance.
February 9th, 2015 at 11:02 am
If we don’t pick a QB first, I’ll be done with L&L.
February 9th, 2015 at 11:05 am
Mgm4life or until we get someone better.
February 9th, 2015 at 11:09 am
Hell if Glennon’s the starter next season sign me up for season tickets.
If McCown’s the starter I want sideline seats.
SMH & Rolling my eyes.
Just STOP it!
February 9th, 2015 at 11:10 am
Glennon could be a good QB for this team. The problem is that ship has probably sailed. It would be hard for Lovie and Licht to sell the ownership and fan base on the idea of passing on a QB with the first overall pick. The past several years have been a jumbled mess with a revolving door of coaches, MRSA, bad draft picks, even worse free agent signings and a 2-14 season. The Glazers need to create excitement and give the fan base a reason to believe things will turn around. Drafting a QB can be part of that, weather or not Glennon figures to be a quality starter or not.
Unfortunately, Glennon was stuck with two years of bad offenses and really bad offensive lines. He would be in his third offensive system in as many years. He hasn’t had stability, which makes it tough for a young player, especially a QB. He was dealt a bad hand, plain and simple. The new regime didn’t draft him, which makes it easier for them to move on. If things worked out differently, he could very well be the starter and might do really well. It’s likely that we’ll never find out. At least not while he’s wearing a Bucs uni.
February 9th, 2015 at 11:11 am
I dont believe Casillas really believes what he is saying.
February 9th, 2015 at 11:15 am
@ tmaxcon
Glennon to unmerciful pounding as a Buc QB and didn’t take an injury….shook every hit off and stood back up.
People make fun of his stature….but he takes a beating….he is tough.
February 9th, 2015 at 11:16 am
I’m all for playing Glennon every day and twice on Sunday. I have not wavered on this opinion and would like to see it happen. I don’t know what the team will do, play MG, trade MG, draft Winston or Mariota, I prefer Winston if thats the case, or go elsewhere with the first pick. I think MG shows potential despite those voices who ridicule the suggestion.
February 9th, 2015 at 11:17 am
@ tmaxcon
Also….mental toughness…..a real soldier when times were rough…..you have got to assign the toughness label to any Buc QB that plays behind that line…..
February 9th, 2015 at 11:25 am
Glennon was never given a fair shot. He has been played from the start. Also, asking a QB to learn a new offense every year is ridiculous. No QB is going to succeed in a system like that. Let him learn the offense and get used to it.
February 9th, 2015 at 11:26 am
Chile please!
February 9th, 2015 at 11:27 am
VJax and Evans like Glennon. Koetter likes him. Belichick likes him. Payton likes him. More importantly, the Glazers-Licht-Smith like him. #Intelligent #MakesEveryNFLThrow #Top10NFLArm #ROY #SetNFLandTeamRecords #TheCreepyCrab Be saying What What.
February 9th, 2015 at 11:27 am
The Bucs would never let talent out the door!!
Cough cough hack heck
February 9th, 2015 at 11:28 am
“shook every hit off and stood back up.”
Winston did this too…only he won the games in the end.
February 9th, 2015 at 11:31 am
This is the same guy that said McCown reminded him of Drew Bress. What you expect, most players won’t give a honest opinion anyways. If he says anything bad about Gleenon or the Bucs it could close a door to join another team one day.
February 9th, 2015 at 11:32 am
I think Glennon got screwed over last year. He should have been the starter from game 1. That being said, I don’t see him leading the Bucs this year. I think the relationship between Mg8 and Smith/Licht is damaged and the best thing is to trade him. I expect to see Glenon leading another team to the playoffs in a few years as we sit back and shake our heads yet again at another QB that left Tampa, only to find success elsewhere.
February 9th, 2015 at 11:34 am
There are many things to like about Mike Glennon. The best is that you know exactly what you have and it’s a best guess with Mariota or Winston and relying on a rookie quarterback means three more years before the BUCS are competitive again!!! Good teams can win without a franchise quarterback but not with an awful offensive line. Coach Smith designated Glennon the quarterback of the future….if he trades him, it says more about Lovie Smith than Mike Glennon!!!
Let’s lighten up on all the name calling….2014 is finally over!!!
February 9th, 2015 at 11:35 am
@Barry
Are you Sean Glennon?
Seriously though, Answer this one question: If Glennon had any support in the franchise, why didn’t he take 1 snap in December?
February 9th, 2015 at 11:40 am
Robert 9 Says:
February 9th, 2015 at 10:17 am
coming from a guy with two SB rings who has played with the best QB’s in the game.
MG will be your starter next year
REALLY?
February 9th, 2015 at 11:45 am
I like mike glennon a lot and think he’s very smart and has a lot of potential. I also understand that most fans and ownership would be excited about taking a QB #1. Ive been going back and forth between MM and JW since this began. Im now starting to lean back towards MM after Koetter’s and casillas comments, and yes i also try to take the professionals involved in the game opinions more seriously. If we draft MM, we should keep Glennon to teach and possibly start the season if need be. Then we would have two smart QBs battling it out on the field and film room for the starting role. If we draft JW, trade Glennon for pick(s) and I wish him all the luck in the world. GO BUCS 2015!!!
February 9th, 2015 at 11:48 am
And whoever is the QB in 2015, get them some lineman who can F-ing block!!!
February 9th, 2015 at 11:50 am
@SOEbuc
Mike Evans, a professional football player in Hillsborough County, said he would prefer Winston.
With all that said, these are the same players/talent evaluators that pass on Lavonte David every year for the Pro Bowl. Would not put any stock into what a current player says.
February 9th, 2015 at 11:54 am
Let’s go get Greg Hardy from Carolina! His charges have been dismissed and we need all the help we can get.
February 9th, 2015 at 11:56 am
People relax, just cause Casillas has a high opinion of Glennon doesn’t mean you have to go nuts bashing the guy, nor does it mean he’s the QOTF, nor does it mean he’s as awful as some claim (good lord there’s a disproportionate amount of hate toward the guy), nor is he as great as some think. Seems like a bad indictment on Mccown but then again that shouldn’t surprise anyone. CHILL folks!
February 9th, 2015 at 11:57 am
@SOEbuc
Mike Evans, a professional football player in Hillsborough County, said he would prefer Winston.
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When did he say that?
“Evans wasn’t making a case for either player to be the Bucs’ pick and said he trusts that the team’s front office “will do the right thing,” come draft time.”-NFL.com
I remember an article posted by Joe that had a former coach saying Evans would want Winston, but I don’t recall Evans ever saying he preferred Winston.
February 9th, 2015 at 11:59 am
Isn’t this the same guy that said McCown reminded him of Brees in training camp? Or am I thinking of someone else? Pretty sure it was him. But anyways, I like Glennon but it doesnt really matter, Lovie doesn’t seem like he believes in Glennon and in the end thats all that really matters. I wish nothing but the best for Glennon. Dude has given it his all and never complained through out the shit storm he was thrown into by team. Hope we dont trade him.
February 9th, 2015 at 11:59 am
I would love to see Glennon come in behind a decent line and win 13 games to shut all you MG haters up that don’t think he’s a good, smart QB because he doesn’t look like some dreamboat. If that happened and we drafted MM (or JW) we would have two young, potentially starting QBs to work with
February 9th, 2015 at 12:04 pm
@Nick
Im taking Koetters comment more serious than Casillas’. And yea when the hell did Mike Evans say that? And even though mike evans is my boy, he’s a rookie that just got out of college with Johnny Rehab
February 9th, 2015 at 12:08 pm
https://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=129693
February 9th, 2015 at 12:14 pm
Isn’t this the same guy that said Mc Cown reminded him of Mr Breeze in training camp? Or am I thinking of someone else? Pretty sure it was him. But anyways, I like Glennon but it doesnt really matter, Lovie doesn’t seem like he believes in Glennon and in the end thats all that really matters. I wish nothing but the best for Glennon. The guy has given it his all and never complained through out the sh!t storm he was thrown into by team. Hope we dont trade him.
February 9th, 2015 at 12:18 pm
@Nick
As I said a coach said it. Not Evans.
February 9th, 2015 at 12:21 pm
Give him coaching and don’t have him play behind the worst line in the nfl and he will be fine:
February 9th, 2015 at 12:25 pm
simple path to 10 wins for Lovie:
(1) draft Leonard Williams @ #1 (unless another GM is foolish enough to sell the farm to move up
(2) address the O line (free agency and/or draft)
(3) draft a day 2 or 3 QB to replace McCown and his $5M salary and let Glennon know the QB job is his to lose in 2015
Yes many fans will boo and throw beer cans, probably even have blackouts and low attendance at first, but I can almost guarantee a 5 or 6 win Sep-Oct will reignite enthusiasm better than a rookie QB starting off with 1 or 2 wins in that same stretch. Just win baby!
February 9th, 2015 at 12:31 pm
@ToesOnTheLine
There won’t be blackouts in the NFL. So you can bet the games will be on.
February 9th, 2015 at 12:35 pm
@Skyline Crew
Why would Sumlin offer that up if not true? If Evans were speaking glowingly about Glennon behind the scenes, Sumlin would state that Evans prefers what he has.
February 9th, 2015 at 12:36 pm
How can people say Glennon has no heart? Are you in the locker room or on the sidelines. I really do like Glennon but its likely the Bucs draft a qb for a new start in 2015.
February 9th, 2015 at 12:39 pm
So when Lovie Smith said Glennon is the future, and lets say he is not, how does this make Lovie look?
February 9th, 2015 at 12:45 pm
@Nick
I don’t take what somebody says that somebody else said as word. I’d rather hear it from the person that supposedly said it. That is how rumors get started.
February 9th, 2015 at 12:45 pm
You really are a simpleton Robert 9.
Two Super Bowl rings. Right. Casillas had as much to do with winning those two Super Bowls as the jug of Gator Aid on the sideline did.
One more time.
Glennon had the job to win and he blew it. He regressed in his lasts three games. That was with almost a full season under his belt in the previous year.
I like Glennon and was rooting for him every step of the way but facts are facts.
You can blame his overall poor performance on Arroyo which I would gladly do.
But he missed a wide open Mike Evans against the Browns, one of which resulted in a costly INT that he underthrew, which could have changed the complexity of the game.
Get over it you stooges.
February 9th, 2015 at 12:46 pm
When Evans was asked about it:
“Evans wasn’t making a case for either player to be the Bucs’ pick and said he trusts that the team’s front office “will do the right thing,” come draft time.”-NFL.com
So when asked about the QBs why didn’t Evans say he wanted Winston?
February 9th, 2015 at 12:49 pm
@ ddneast
Glennon had the job to win and he blew it.
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Do you really believe that? I don’t think Lovie had any intentions of playing Glennon. He was forced to play him because McCown hurt his hand. I don’t believe that Lovie would have benched McCown for Glennon. That would of made Lovie look bad.
February 9th, 2015 at 12:55 pm
@ ddneast
I think any QB in the league would of regressed benind that line and arroyos play calling
February 9th, 2015 at 1:00 pm
There is nothing guaranteed ….EVER!. So yes we have to draft a Qb. But….Glennon deserves a shot at 2015. Only an idiot would make his decision on the teams qb based only on wins and losses. There are 21 other positions that contribute every single play. Glennon hasnt had the chance to prove himself yet.
By the way I am not “The Kevin” here…..but trading Glennon would be foolish. Id like to see him play a full season under koetter…..but AT LEAST keep him through training camp and play rhe better qb…
February 9th, 2015 at 1:01 pm
@Skyline Crew
The purpose of this forum is to try and decipher the truth. If you are waiting for absolute affirmation on what the Buc’s true intentions are, then we should all pack up until April 30th.
I trust Sumlin over Evans in this case because he doesn’t have a horse in the race. What does Sumlin care who plays QB for us? Evans has to play nice up until the point he knows who is taking Week 1 snaps for us. If he loved Glennon, Sumlin would echo that. Since he didn’t, have to assume he would like Winston under center.
February 9th, 2015 at 1:02 pm
what this guy has to say about glennon is very important to anyone nor should it be because the truth is that when josh mccown went down with an injury glennon had every chance to take over the team for the year and the franchise for the next 7-10 years but he wilted and buckled under the pressure and played no better than josh mccown did…glennon won a game against the steelers that’s great amazing great game but mccown did that much and won a game. glennon is the reason he is a forgotten man in tampa not lovie, next man up applied all last year, some took advantage like mcdougle and some like glennon showed the bucs nothing
we’re talking about mcdougle and his potential next year and theres on reason why glennon is only being talked about in trade rumors so let it go, I cant wait until he’s traded so we can move on
February 9th, 2015 at 1:05 pm
An unbiased and inside opinion on Glennon from a former teammate. If he feels that way you can bet there are a few current Bucs who feel the same. Give Glennon a legit QB coach and OC and lets see what he can do. He went into a hostile environment in Pittsburgh and won, he played one of the best games a visiting QB played in Seattle in 3 years. He has had no help or instruction at all since he has been here and won every game we have won but one the last two years. Package the pick and get better at 3 or 4 positions, and let Dirk work with the kid.
February 9th, 2015 at 1:08 pm
That’s the Patriot in Casillas talking.
February 9th, 2015 at 1:14 pm
MGM…… Shameis fan be like wwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhaaaàaaaaaaaaaaàaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
February 9th, 2015 at 1:17 pm
What really annoys me is the constant use of excuses for Glennon are the exact same excuses used by Freeman backers.
“He would be in his third offensive system in as many years. He hasn’t had stability, which makes it tough for a young player, especially a QB. He was dealt a bad hand, plain and simple. The new regime didn’t draft him, which makes it easier for them to move on.”
Does this sound familiar? Come on people! Wake the (insert expletive) up! You Glennon lovers are worse than the Tebow Apostles!
February 9th, 2015 at 1:19 pm
“Awaken the Mike Glennon Mob!”
All six of them.
February 9th, 2015 at 1:23 pm
What really annoys me is the constant use of excuses for Glennon are the exact same excuses used by Freeman backers.
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Except the fact Freeman had 60+ games and not 19… but let’s not let little things like facts get in the way. Continue your rant.
February 9th, 2015 at 1:27 pm
@IStillbleedOrange
Freeman had 3 years of Raheem Morris and 2 of Shiano. He also had Greg Olson as an OC from 2009-2011. Glennon hasn’t had a HC or an OC for more than a year. This will be his first if he is still here. Tell me how they are the same? Freeman had stability in his career and Glennon has not.
February 9th, 2015 at 1:29 pm
glennon has done everything except win when given the chance….if your gonna draft mariotta to dink and dunk I don’t want him but i’d still do it because atleast he can run….glennon’s feet are slower than oneil cousins
February 9th, 2015 at 1:32 pm
I think you could make the argument the defense lost 3 of those games last year that Glennon played.
February 9th, 2015 at 1:44 pm
87ForJameisNOMariota Says:
February 9th, 2015 at 1:19 pm
“Awaken the Mike Glennon Mob!”
“All six of them”
HAHA hey man we’ve got at least a couple more guys in our ranks. The eight of us have a weekly get together at Coach Schiano’s place and eat bacon while talking football 🙂 MGM forever…to heck with all you Mariota and Winston Mobbers. #Hackenberg will be the #1 pick for the Bucs in 2016
February 9th, 2015 at 1:53 pm
Me and my homies in the Winston Mob are some hard hittin’ mofo’s.
Bring the giraffe, Beaker, Napolean Dynamite or whatever else they want to call him’s mob and we’ll have a throw down….
Winston Mob vs. Napolean Dynamite Mob. Say it ain’t so. LOL
February 9th, 2015 at 1:56 pm
Joe we give you this shyte for free and you give us your site for free.
Even trade. Thank you and you’re also welcome.
February 9th, 2015 at 2:04 pm
win, it’s in his name
#winninwithwinston #justwinstonbaby
lemon, it’s in mike glennon
February 9th, 2015 at 2:04 pm
@87
No bringing BB guns to the Throwdown though. Maybe some crab legs if you’re willing to boil em and share with us afterwards.
You’ve only got a year though since next year I might start the Hackenberg Homies? 🙂
February 9th, 2015 at 2:14 pm
@ lurker
I was gonna give you the win in Winston one, but you get a big old gong (gong, not bong) for the Lemon/Glennon name association game. Don’t make me come down to sunny Florida and leave this 3 feet of snow and end of the week negative air temps just to run D line stunts all over Ybor City! 🙂
February 9th, 2015 at 2:42 pm
Nothing against Glennon, but I remember wanting to throw things at my TV last season when he was at the helm which is better than when McCown was at the helm since he made me want to throw the entire TV. As far as the Casillas comments……I would take them with a grain of salt since he is no longer a Buc, I seriously doubt he has the Bucs best interest at heart.
February 9th, 2015 at 2:57 pm
glennon to new england as tom brady’s successor. bucs get a conditional 7th rounder for their troubles. our #1 overall QB goes bust. that sounds like perhaps the most buccaneer thing that could happen at the moment
February 9th, 2015 at 3:10 pm
@all the idiots.
I am not in the glennon mob
But you all act like winston or mariota will take this team to the super bowl next season. Morons.
And I’m saying there is a real possibility that winston and mariota both will be worse than glennon.
But you all are experts and because winston is the laughable “NFL ready”( which means absolutely nothing) he is all ready for canton.
The biased idiots are just that. Idiots.
February 9th, 2015 at 3:18 pm
For now, Coach Smith says Glennon is the QB. Until that changes, you can pencil in Leonard Williams at #1.
February 9th, 2015 at 3:23 pm
@everyone
You all give crap to the glennon mob for making excuses but thats all you idiots do for Winston. How about that?
How many int’s did Winston throw against inferior competition?
I lost count after 15
Somehow winston excuses are acceptable but not Glennons.
Biased uninformed no facts morons.
Stop breathing my air and hang yourselves.
February 9th, 2015 at 3:28 pm
Give it up for “The Kevin”, everyone! Fantastic. The performance art of your posts are truly remarkable.
February 9th, 2015 at 3:29 pm
87ForJameisNOMariota Says:
February 9th, 2015 at 1:19 pm
“Awaken the Mike Glennon Mob!”
All six of them.
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STOP IT!!!! I’m crying ova here. Rotf
February 9th, 2015 at 3:38 pm
@ I still bleed orange
Unlike Freeman, Glennon isn’t running around south tampa with a straw up his nose. Ive seen both at the bars in their rookie years. I shook MGs hand and told him i was in the MGM. I think he was drinking club soda
February 9th, 2015 at 3:42 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! XD
Glennon?!!?!!? HELL NO!!
Casillas just wants the team to suck since they wasted two years of his career.
Start Glennon if you like picking in the top 10 every year
February 9th, 2015 at 3:53 pm
@ everyone
I just wasted a few seconds of my life reading The Kevin’s ridiculous posts. He is not intelligent enough to deserve getting into any arguments with. Moving forward, I will skip over his posts because they are too redundant and boring. Idiots and morons go hang yourselves….yawn. I did not realize people in mental wards had access to the internet???
February 9th, 2015 at 3:53 pm
@WS99
There might not be as many of us in MGM as the JW and MM lovers, but at least we’re using our minds thinking about whats best for the team. If Glennon wants to go out and get accused of rape and yell obscenities on top of a table and be a total klepto to get you people to love him thats his decision. The fact that he’s not a dumbass (please don’t gimme the he’s 20 in college crap), means MG probably won’t do that.
February 9th, 2015 at 4:16 pm
@rayjay
Go hang yourself
February 9th, 2015 at 5:07 pm
Glennon plays like a statue in the pocket and another type of statue is a BUST! Coincidence? I think not!
February 9th, 2015 at 5:13 pm
SOEbuc
I’m a card carrying member of the MGM.
MGM4life of until we get someone better. That’s my motto.
With the first pick in the 2015 NFL draft the TB Buccaneer fans select Bucco Bruce bc he’s fabulous.
February 9th, 2015 at 5:39 pm
Draft JW and keep MG as the sub. McCown needs to go.
February 9th, 2015 at 7:07 pm
I’m all for keeping Glennon as an inexpensive back-up. He is qualified and capable of fulfilling that role. But to suggest that he is NFL starter material? And that we should bypass a QB at #1 because we already have our guy? Surely you jest.
Anyone who watched the 19 games Glennon started over the last 2 years and still thinks he’s good enough to be a starter and that the Bucs should pin their future hopes to him is either looking through rose colored glasses at what he put on tape because they like the kid – or just flat out does not know what a starting NFL QB is supposed to look like.
MGM just loves to point to his interception % and compare them to other QBs etc – but stats don’t tell the story in Glennon’s case. The eyeball test says the kid doesn’t have it. And 19 games to see that pretty clearly is no small sample.
Lovie gave Glennon 2 extra games after McCown was healed enough to play again – 2 extra games and that’s a fact. He wanted Glennon to show he could earn the job – he was hoping Glennon would continue to improve with additional experience in his 2nd year and actually earn the right to be named the official starter because of his on field play. Well he didn’t – not only did he not improve, Glennon regressed over a 5 game run and it was visible.
I see MGM pointing out that people outside of the Bucs bubble seem to typically be more enthusiastic about Glennon’s potential than those who are inside it. As if that legitimizes their hopes for him. Well that’s because those outsiders look at the stats which look decent because of the lower Ints – and they’ve watched a game or 2 where he might have played decently – and have seen a few highlights over the last couple years that give the impression that maybe with a better or different situation – that Glennon currently may have a starter’s capabilities. And maybe that’s true – I don’t dislike Glennon and I would be happy to have the Bucs keep him and let him battle it out with Winston in training camp for the right to start on opening day. Like I said – he will represent an excellent value to the Bucs for the next 2 years – to work along side and compete with a rookie QB – and if he can manage to improve and win the starting job and play well enough to keep it for awhile – then that would be awesome and more power to the Ginger Giraffe. I would root for him as much as any other Bucs QB that shows themself capable of helping the team to win football games.
The reason Bucs insiders by and large do not see Glennon as a legit starter is because they have watched every play of those 19 games he started. A flash here and a flash there is all anyone has ever seen when it comes to legit potential. I think at this point he has shown that with decent Oline play and a semblance of a running game -he can manage a game reasonably well and dink and dunk a bunch of high % passes with out taking many chances which is mainly why his stats look like they do. That’s an acceptable level for a backup to be capable of in the NFL. But not a starter. A starter needs to make plays. Big Plays – with regularity A starter needs to win games – with regularity. A good starting NFL QB wins games for his team despite not having a stellar supporting cast. Is Glennon capable of this? Methinks not. Mock my eyeball test if you want MGM – but I will stand by it until I see otherwise.
Winston on the other hand – what he did in College was knock the eyeball test out of the park. For me at least. Time to see what he can do against NFL competition.
February 9th, 2015 at 7:36 pm
I think anyone that is willing to write off Glennon as being capable of becoming an NFL starter is foolish. Thats not me saying he is the guy…..but in those 19 games….last year as a rookie with no weapons and this year with the worst line in the league and an OC that has never called plays before. Its foolish to overlook those things. He deserves one more year. Draft a qb with the first pick and let him sit the first season. See what youve got with glennon. Koetter will be the first legit playcaller he has worked with in the league. If he cant win games and it still looks the same than make the switch.
Its not like either of the rookies we may take are going to take us to the superbowl so give it a shot
February 9th, 2015 at 10:11 pm
tmaxcon Says:
I don’t want to hear one word about the Pittsburgh game. Glennon did not win that game, Pittsburgh LOST it.
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Nope. Glennon won it and I’ll bet you were cheering.
Prickgrin. Your facts mean something but ours don’t? Well Mr. GM. Get us some wins. Sounds like you got the Glazer’s ears. .
February 9th, 2015 at 10:33 pm
@WS99
hahaha
Hey bucco!!! if ur in the MGM you’re probably good people
February 9th, 2015 at 10:38 pm
Play Mike Glennon! Go BUCS!
February 9th, 2015 at 10:44 pm
@WS99
my bad i just realized i typed the wrong name when i called you out about MGM earlier. Gotta work on my trash talking skills
February 9th, 2015 at 10:53 pm
“kevin” you literally took the words outta my mouth. He has had barely anything to work with players or coaching in two different systems and still broke rookie records. Give the kid a chance with someone like Koetter and if he doesn’t do well, put in the new guy
February 9th, 2015 at 11:34 pm
Glennon for Johnie Football, straight up. Draft Winston, best man wins.
February 10th, 2015 at 3:00 am
i know this is way late, been out most of the day, but what records? did the hall of fame have him with anything? are these espy records? or does he have certificates printed up that teachers have to give to all the students….errr that the coaches give out to all the players?
@toesontheline thanks for the recognition on the hard work
February 10th, 2015 at 3:33 am
@pickgrin and the rest of the MG8 haters. Yes that includes you also Steve D. Your self professed Football acumen, is quite laughable. You spit back what you hear S.D. say on the radio like the eyeball test (who crowned you a football scout?) I can hear another trip repeat,”I know a quarterback when i see one”, all you haters almost without exception (lie about Joe deleted) was calling for a 100 million dollar extinction to the famous moon walking pretty boy who went mental. Lovey may not let Glennon take another snap but if he plays that card it will doom his time here. Many feel Lovey only has this year to have the team go to the playoffs. if not he can only put his head between his legs and kiss his ass goodby.
February 10th, 2015 at 7:20 am
“TheKevin” Says:
February 9th, 2015 at 10:20 am
Lol it’s funny to hear professionals and analysts come out in support of glennon.
Then all you idiot experts come on here and act like you all know something or are smarter than the people that actually live the life.
I’ll take a pros opinion over any of you moron commenters that think you know something. When in reality not one of you know jack sh*t about anything.
And I’m not in the glennon mob.
And there is not any guarantee that winston or mariota would be any better. Just pure speculation.
You’re all stupid.
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Pot, meet Kettle.
February 10th, 2015 at 7:26 am
Casillas said, “That’s all attributed to Glennon. Defense was playing well, but we had to have a quarterback in there making the plays. And he made a lot of big plays. He’s got an incredible arm, you know. I think his future is very bright.”
The defense was playing well (in 2013) and those four wins were attributed to Glennon…FOUR EFFING WINS! He’s acting like he saved the season. Any credibility defensive no-show Casillas may have had, he completely lost when he said, “He’s got an incredible arm,” and didn’t follow up “incredible” with a “ly” and words like “inaccurate” or “weak”.
February 10th, 2015 at 7:37 am
lurker Says:
February 10th, 2015 at 3:00 am
i know this is way late, been out most of the day, but what records? did the hall of fame have him with anything? are these espy records? or does he have certificates printed up that teachers have to give to all the students….errr that the coaches give out to all the players?
@toesontheline thanks for the recognition on the hard work
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His “record” is something like being the first rookie QB to throw TDs in 8 consecutive games…. which is a huge deal considering that in those 8 games he threw a whopping 13 TDs only 4 INTs and the team went 3-5…then of course AFTER those 8 games the team went 1-4, Glennon failed to take his rating over 80 one time, he threw 6 TDs to 5 INTs…which, by the way, is the real Mike Glennon.
One only has to use any season in Glennon’s career to see he lacks any type of consistency. Sometimes he is decent, sometimes he is very bad. Look bad to his 5th year senior season at NC State…His loss to 4 win UVa as well as losses to Vanderbilt and Tennessee showcased what is truly wrong with Mike Glennon…. long bouts of inaccuracy mixed with stupid decisions…3 TDs and 10 INTs in those 3 games against teams that were hardly National Championship contenders…
Oh, and for all of those slamming Jameis Winston and his 17 INTs from 2014… Glennon threw 17 INTS in 2012 but he did his in only 13 games…oh, and he was a 5th year senior, not a 3rd year player like Winston.
February 10th, 2015 at 8:21 am
This is why the draft opinions of former players should be almost universally ignored. Does anyone here actually think Casillas has broken down the all-22 film of Glennon and compared it to the QBs in this draft and other QBs in the league? Hell no, instead he’s speaking from emotion and bias which we should all safely ignore.
Glennon sucks, deal with it and hope we can get a day 3 pick for him.
Remainder deleted.
(1. not a message board)
(2. Joe has shared numerous positive takes on Mariota. So stop lying.)
(3. Who you find credible and noteworthy is great — for your website.)
February 10th, 2015 at 8:54 am
Long John Says:
February 10th, 2015 at 3:33 am
@pickgrin and the rest of the MG8 haters. Yes that includes you also Steve D. Your self professed Football acumen, is quite laughable. You spit back what you hear S.D. say on the radio like the eyeball test
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I haven’t listened to Duemig for a # of years now – got tired of his belligerence towards callers and anyone in general who didn’t agree with him or challenged his statements.
As far as the MG8 “hater” label you are trying to stick me with – I’m pretty sure I covered that :
“I don’t dislike Glennon and I would be happy to have the Bucs keep him and let him battle it out with Winston in training camp for the right to start on opening day.”
February 12th, 2015 at 6:01 am
[…] Remember when Joe talked to former Bucs starting linebacker Jonathan Casillas during Super Bowl week, and Casillas talked about how Mike Glennon definitely should be the Bucs’ quarterback of the future? […]