Dubious Quarterback Gazing
February 23rd, 2015
There has been a whole lotta talk about quarterbacks in this neck of the woods we call Tampa Bay. That’s because quarterbacking here recently has been like a cheap Sharknado movie on the Syfy Network.
Only problem is, since leaky, sleepy Josh Freeman went mental, the quarterback play has eaten up this team so badly it has a chance to select Jameis Winston with the first pick in the draft.
Some Bucs fans still believe (tea leaf reading be damned) the starting quarterback gig is Mike Glennon’s to lose, despite Lovie Smith knighting Glennon as the quarterback of the future but benching him for turnover-prone Josh McCown.
Well, the “Custodian of Canton,” eye-RAH! Kaufman of the Tampa Tribune, isn’t buying it. He is valuing actions over rhetoric.
If Glennon is truly the Buc QB of the future, he would have been their QB in Dec., when TB averaged 14 points and committed 8 TO with McCown
— Ira Kaufman (@IKaufmanTBO) February 18, 2015
If, as Lovie said, he was putting the best 22 players on the field to win games, then it’s hard to fathom how he left out Glennon. McCown proved to be simply over his head as a starter. Glennon actually beat the playoff-bound Steelers on the road for half of the Bucs’ wins. McCown could only beat the sorry Redskins.
It still doesn’t add up to Joe. But with the draft of Winston, it will have all been worth it.
February 23rd, 2015 at 6:34 am
Ahem, Joe. It was the best 21 + a very special handpicked One. Yeah, that equals 22, right?
February 23rd, 2015 at 6:38 am
And did Glennon run the spread offense at NC St.?
February 23rd, 2015 at 6:50 am
If Lovie really had thought Glennon to be the QB of the future he would have utilized him more last year. It is obvious that a plan was devised back then concerning the future of Glennon in Tampa Bay. Was Lovie physically protecting Glennon so that he would not be mauled by opponents crashing through our porous offensive line and if so was that to keep him alive to trade him this year perhaps during the draft or was he serious this is our QB of the future?
February 23rd, 2015 at 7:01 am
Deja vu? This game against the Noles remind me of the Steelers game:
What a difference a year can make.
Glennon couldn’t have done much more to help the offense in last Saturday’s upset of the Seminoles. With 16 seconds remaining, Glennon found Bryan Underwood for a 2-yard touchdown pass on fourth down to beat the Noles 17-16 and take control of the Atlantic Division race. While much of the focus in the aftermath of the upset has centered on what Florida State didn’t do, not enough credit has been given to what the Wolfpack were able to accomplish, and it all started with their quarterback and his quick release in the face of heavy pressure from one of the ACC’s best defensive lines.
“Michael did a great job Saturday night,” NC State coach Tom O’Brien said. “The difference between a year ago playing Florida State to Saturday night was night and day. Last year he took sacks, didn’t get rid of the ball on time. I think he knew that he was much better on time, didn’t take sacks, threw the ball away, kept himself and us out of long-yardage situations with the exception of one time when he did take a sack. He made three straight fourth-down conversions there on that last drive … he did a great job.”
Especially on fourth down in the fourth quarter. Glennon converted a fourth-and-2. A fourth-and-10 from the 14-yard line. And the game-winning play on fourth-and-goal. The drive ended when Glennon found Underwood alone in the end zone. It was a dramatic turnaround from the shutout the Pack endured last year in Tallahassee.
This was the 4th qtr, icy veins Mike I know who got it done passing it to VJax too.
February 23rd, 2015 at 7:19 am
Lovie tanked the season. Not surprised Glennon didn’t play. Glennon would have won a game or two. Still bitter the defense let the Saints come back and win.
February 23rd, 2015 at 8:00 am
Pat Says:
February 23rd, 2015 at 7:01 am
Deja vu? This game against the Noles remind me of the Steelers game:
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Unfortunately, I’ve seen far too much of Glennon, the one that tanked the UVa, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt games. I think he threw something like 10 INTs in those 3 blowout losses. UVa was 4-8 that year. He was awful… he’s the same guy.
February 23rd, 2015 at 8:14 am
Glad we tanked…now we have a chance to be relevant.
February 23rd, 2015 at 8:28 am
The defense???? They pulled all of the starters…
February 23rd, 2015 at 8:40 am
Brandon
Funny because glennon had the same amount of interceptions as winston did his last year 17 and everyone still wants winston smh
February 23rd, 2015 at 8:41 am
If Lovie was enough of a dope to play McCown despite the fact that even Glennon might perform better, what will folks hereabouts do when he repeats the trend and plays Glennon rather than Joe’s new BFF — Jameis???
February 23rd, 2015 at 8:42 am
“If, as Lovie said,…”
Lets just stop right here. We already know what Lovie says means diddly.
February 23rd, 2015 at 8:46 am
the bucs didn’t pull all their starters in the last game of the season because they knew glennon would come in and shine next year…….glennon can beat out anybody and the only way he can get a job is to be given the job or the guy ahead of him has to get injured. that’s so funny how people say he’s so good buy he hasn’t last here as long as freeman did, even with the cheap salary he has no value, nice guy sorry quarterback…..he needs to go to a team who’s offensive coordinator is the head coach like bruce arians
February 23rd, 2015 at 9:05 am
start glennon and trade back. if no good trade partners, then take mariota and start glennon. winstons off field stuff is too risky.
February 23rd, 2015 at 9:16 am
Well if we’re judging the team’s actions so far they passed on every QB in last year’s draft and have released McCown in favor of retaining Glennon this season. Form your own spin on playing MCCown in December, but its not that crazy to think Koetter’s/Lovie’s plan is to not only keep Glennon but to start him this season regardless of who they draft. Obviously a rookie QB at #1 will probably shorten Glennon’s start time (fan/media/ownership want the shiny new QB), but Glennon is the most NFL accomplished QB on the roster and will be after the draft too.
February 23rd, 2015 at 9:16 am
start glennon lol yea that just screams we want to win now….wow trade back and start glennon, what kind of fans do the bucs have my goodness this is beyond insane. if he cant start day one which everyone is saying that he cant then you don’t pick him….if you have to sit the number 1 overall pick then he’s not the number 1 pick because at every other position theres no question that guy would be day one starter in training camp. people keep talking about winstons second year and seem to forget his first year in college…seem to forget he only lost 1 game and you can throw as many as you want if you get the W because in tampa the defense isn’t going to get us very many wins. glennon looks like a damn cartoon, he’s no leader he looks weak…take a 5th 6th round pick for the guy and let it go because your not going to get more than that for him, he’s the trent Richardson of quarterbacks
February 23rd, 2015 at 9:31 am
With the OL we had, it was better that McCown played and had his brains beaten out rather than Glennon.
It is impossible to fathom why Lovie played the entire year without any offensive coaching talent running the offense unless he planned to tank the season from the beginning and get the number one pick, because if he didn’t, he is too dumb to be a HC.
February 23rd, 2015 at 9:39 am
@robert was that you that called in this morning to 620wdae about trading back? Whoever it was, they ran him off the air. We are not trading down for more players.
We are taking a QB.
February 23rd, 2015 at 9:40 am
wow he is too dumb to be a HC? it is impossible to fathom why lovie played the entire year without any offensive coaching talent running the offense? well that’s why your sitting at home waiting for news from jbf and why your on the outside looking in and why all you are is a fan. I mean I don’t know but I thought we went into training camp with an offensive head coach….Jeff tedford remember him? guy is somewhere coaching again and wasn’t working the year before we hired him so honestly on the outside looking in can you really say that a guy didn’t know what was going on with his body then all of a sudden went in and had to have that kind of surgery? he even said himself he ignored the signs so if he hadn’t we would have had time to make changes. so your saying he planned to let tedford wait until the last game of preseason to go have a stint surgery then then take 3 quarters of the season off….if you think the guy can be back in a month or month in a half why would you immediately go out and replace the guy? last year is past and the fan base is excited to have the number 1 pick….from where I stand quarterback was our biggest weakness last year and even freeman could have done better than both because he was a better runner
February 23rd, 2015 at 9:44 am
Draft Winston, win football games.
Any other decision is professional malpractice.
February 23rd, 2015 at 9:49 am
I never call radio shows. lol
February 23rd, 2015 at 10:29 am
Evans………………Winston.
Two outstanding choices by our Head Coach and GM.
That is going to be quite the combo. Very exciting.
You guys keep right on wallowing in the misery and disrespecting Lovie. He and Mr. Winston will have the last laugh.
February 23rd, 2015 at 10:37 am
Imagine how good Winston will be when he has someone better than Kelvin Benjamin to throw to. No knock against his receiving corp last year, but without Benjamin they just weren’t as effective. Having a big, dynamic target changes the field both at the college and pro level.
If the Bucs aren’t drooling thinking about those two playing together for a decade – then something is horribly wrong with them.
February 23rd, 2015 at 10:42 am
to be honest we cant go wrong, both of these guys look like the real deal so regardless of whoever we draft im on board just please get me a quarterback I don’t think I could take another season of the MGM rooting for a bench player to come off the bench and take us too a playoff level lol. we’ll get rid of mike glennon just to quiet the MGM and any fans begging for this guy to come rescue our rookie….just like every other rookie qb both these guys are going to struggle
February 23rd, 2015 at 10:47 am
joe .. you keep pushing Winston down our throat.. NOT the best qb in the draft .M>M> is the only choice !!! Let the thug not be the face of our team
February 23rd, 2015 at 10:56 am
lol there it is the thug reference….so now he’s a thug, I cant wait until some of you sorry fans turn in your bucs jerseys and go root for someone else. if we draft Winston IF we draft him and he actually turns out to be the right pick your still gonna hate on this guy even if we’re winning simply because you don’t like this guy. if he is a winner, if he is the right pick and he is winning us games and you still hate on him then you need to face the possibility your a racist…..if you don’t know his momma, if you aren’t in his circle of friends, if you aren’t paying for a private investigator like the bucs and your only reading newspaper clippings you do not know this man.
@ben
you scouted Winston so well, you know his personality so well but guess what I hope your out scouting a new team because he could very well be the pick….I’m willing to bet my house that Winston AND mariotta will have a better rookie season than glennon
February 23rd, 2015 at 11:18 am
Wooooo. Now I see we have a following of Glennon haters here. Role reversal?
February 23rd, 2015 at 11:33 am
he would have to actually be good before anyone could say you are a glennon hater
February 23rd, 2015 at 11:36 am
Im sure that the Bucs werent going to handpick a guy for 5mill to sit on the bench for Mike Glennon. I think the move was more “political” than anything. Just my OPINION. Please dont freak out on me.
February 23rd, 2015 at 11:40 am
meh, if you only think MG is worth a 5th or 6th then your probably a hater.
February 23rd, 2015 at 12:45 pm
if you think glennon is worth more than a 5th round pick then your delusional….he’s worth more than a 5th for a team that is desperate at quarterback like buffalo, Texans and Arizona. no one gives up more than a 5th for an average to below average immobile quarterback unless he’s an instant starter and if anyone in the league thought he was an instant plug in starter lol you mean you think a 3rd round pick is too much for a guy you think can start and take your team places? come on
February 23rd, 2015 at 1:07 pm
He is our qb of the future just our backup qb of the future…
February 23rd, 2015 at 1:22 pm
Joe, that stuff at the end of the year about putting best on the field was smoke. I think they were trying to get one of the top 2 draft picks and let Josh and Marcus finish what they started.
With the way the offense was playing, it was better to let (coach) Josh and Marcus take the beating. There is a lot more to this story that no one has talked about.
Once the year was over, they would get a great draft pick and it would be clear that the Marcus and Josh OC team didn’t make it happen. No one would be surprised that Josh and Marcus would move on to their next gigs.
February 23rd, 2015 at 1:25 pm
If we can get a decent draft pick from Buffalo or Houston, maybe like a third rder, then by all means trade him. After Winston we need a MLB so bad. Without an improved pass rush we must find an upgrade over what were had last year with Foster, Lansanah and Fletcher. Without a pass rush or a MLB that can drop back and play the deep middle then our defense will get torched next year. So yeah im more than willing to trade Glennon for draft picks. Too many holes to fill this spring.
February 23rd, 2015 at 1:26 pm
The season was tanked, and I doubt Lovie wanted Glennon physically sacrificed. They knew McCown was history and they fed him to the sharks instead of Glennon.
Glennon escapes from being shellshocked.
February 23rd, 2015 at 2:10 pm
lemon, it’s in mike glennon
February 23rd, 2015 at 2:38 pm
“QB of the future” does not necessarily mean STARTING QB of the future. Glennon is a solid and inexpensive back up. No more – no less. I think that is pretty clear to anyone who watched his 19 starts objectively.
Why is it so hard for either Ira or Joe to fathom the idea that we were tanking games in Dec to get a top QB pick with 2 great QB prospects expected to come out?
February 23rd, 2015 at 3:52 pm
What happens if we draft Winston and he is not that good of a NFL QB the NFL is not the ACC. Will we all be jumping up and down about why? Will we hear all the same things we’ve heard about our last year’s can’t miss QB Johnny Manzel and his lack of professional personal responsibility that so far has caused him and his NFL team embarrassment. No we all know Joe only brings us what he finds interesting. I wonder how many of those crisp new #5 jerseys find their way to the local thrift store. I am here to say that trading Glennon this year is a huge mistake. He is our only Qb on the roster who has any NFL experience. Is he the next franchise Qb who really knows. I do know he had lots of dropped passes this season. As I’ve read here that is his fault…. yeah
February 23rd, 2015 at 11:01 pm
bucs4lyfe did you always want to be a comedian? Keep your day job.