“Devastatingly Poor”
February 6th, 2015
One could point to turnover-prone quarterback Josh McCown as Exhibit-A of the garish swings and misses the Bucs had in player evaluation last offseason. That would be fair, given that Lovie Smith cut the guy in Chicago.
One could suggest the same for ghostly Michael Johnson at defensive end. Joe couldn’t argue with that.
However, Evan Silva has other ideas. The NFL analyst for Rotoworld.com believes the screendoor on a submarine that was the Bucs’ offensive line was a glaring example of bad player evaluation. In Silva’s eyes, that doomed the Bucs and clinched the Chase for Jameis more than anything.
Tampa Bay’s 2014 offensive line was devastatingly poor, particularly in pass protection. The Bucs must upgrade on overwhelmed RG Patrick Omameh and may release free-agent flop LT Anthony Collins.
Here is the thing: There is no Orlando Pace of an offensive tackle that is head and shoulders above the rest in this draft class. The Bucs could — and should — be able to get a valuable lineman with their high second round pick.
You cannot get a decent quarterback later in the draft. You can early in the draft. Get Winston, and Joe would be OK if the Bucs drafted nothing but offensive linemen the rest of the draft.
February 6th, 2015 at 8:27 am
Welcome marcus mariota our QB
February 6th, 2015 at 8:34 am
I think we will go inside line backer with our second round pick, the QB of our defense.
February 6th, 2015 at 8:34 am
The Joe(s) begging for Jameis finds them diametrically opposed to their idol, the man they dubbed “rockstar”…..
Also, calling Anthony Collins “a flop” is an insult to flops everywhere….
February 6th, 2015 at 9:17 am
Here’s the way the draft has been running. In the first round, teams jump on offensive tackles. So, 4 or 5 of the top ot’s will be gone.
Don’t worry. With the 2nd pick in the second round, the Bucs should be able to land one of the top 2 guards in the draft.
That means the Bucs have to get a starting tackle in free agency. Doesn’t have to be Orlando Pace good, just better than Anthony Collins. May he rest in peace!
February 6th, 2015 at 9:20 am
Take Mariota and then trade back up into the 1st for an OT.
February 6th, 2015 at 9:20 am
They need depth period. Stop trying to sign 2 high priced guys and sign 4-5 reasonably priced guys. An NFL team should never trot out a player as bad as Gilky. EVER
February 6th, 2015 at 9:28 am
“Devastatingly Poor” is a very accurate 2 word description of the Bucs OLine last year. How Warhop still has a job with this this franchise is truly a mystery.
If FSU’s Cam Erving is on the board when the Bucs pick at #34 – Licht should waste no time writing his name down in order to re-unite Jameis with his best protector from the last 2 years.
February 6th, 2015 at 9:32 am
I also believe our second pick will be MLB……Lovie won’t be able to help himself…..FA will give us a good indication of what our pick will be. If we fill Oline in FA or snag a MLB…..the second pick could be BPA….
February 6th, 2015 at 9:32 am
Only the Bucs would be ignorant and arrogant enough to not draft Winston. The Buc/Gator fans would rather sit in a half empty stadium winning 6 games a year than see Jameis in Tampa. I think they will get their wish, and then watch Jameis win it all somewhere else. This is going to be a Boston Red Sox/Babe Ruth trade disaster.
February 6th, 2015 at 9:32 am
and yet the OL coach is still here, yet he’s been fired from every other job he’s had. FML
February 6th, 2015 at 9:38 am
Yes Robert, That one in itself is a mystery that Joe needs to have on his list. Why is the O-line coach still here.
February 6th, 2015 at 9:40 am
@Tim:
Regardless of who drafts Jameis, he’ll go to a bad team, so to proclaim he’ll “win it all” with that bad team may be just a little bit of a stretch….Browns? Bucs? Titans? None going to the Super Bowl any time soon.
February 6th, 2015 at 9:48 am
How can there be an article about the awful O-line, even mentioning a screen door on a submarine, and not one mention of that POS EDS? He was easily as bad as the other guys, but with a terrible, terrible attitude!! I dont remember hearing Omameh and Collins saying anything close to this,
“I am really not thinking about my job security,” EDS said. “I played hard. I did what I needed to do. If they need to move in a new direction, good for them”
February 6th, 2015 at 10:51 am
Bryan bulaga would be a good fit but GB would prob re-sign him.
February 6th, 2015 at 10:53 am
Tom Edrington Says:
February 6th, 2015 at 9:40 am
@Tim:
Regardless of who drafts Jameis, he’ll go to a bad team, so to proclaim he’ll “win it all” with that bad team may be just a little bit of a stretch….Browns? Bucs? Titans? None going to the Super Bowl any time soon.
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Not if you let 87 tell it
February 6th, 2015 at 11:06 am
Totally agree!
February 6th, 2015 at 11:07 am
If we do anything other than grabbing a QB with our #1 pick, then I will completely lose faith in this organization. I will still remain a fan but I will be a faithless fan!!!
February 6th, 2015 at 11:13 am
I think most of us have our minds made up a little too early.
February 6th, 2015 at 11:26 am
we need to draft linebacker from Miami perryman in second round no punk ass linemen
February 6th, 2015 at 12:08 pm
The fact that the Bucs still have Warhop as OL coach worries me; given the talent level of the OL in 2014 I can see L&L handing out a Mulligan but did not Warhop bring some poor evaluations along with him from Cleveland? L&L also have to take some blame for the OL in 2014 as it probably was their idea to release Penn, Larsen and Joseph while trading versatile Zuttah for a very poor return and then stocked the trench with a bunch of underachievers who could not do anything well and was below average to a man. Hopefully the new OC can convince L&L to retool this sieve of an OL and draft some talent in the 2nd 3rd and 4th rounds though I bet Lovie would love to get some DL help in the draft as well and we have to remember that L&L have not drafted one defensive player in Tampa so can we really expect a second straight draft devoted to only offense?
February 6th, 2015 at 12:09 pm
Devastatingly poor sums up the Olines in Chicago when Lovie is there. In case you haven’t notice, nothing at all has changed about Lovie. What he “learned” in the basement is try and luck out with a QB. But his outdated philosophy is here to stay sadly.
February 6th, 2015 at 12:28 pm
“The Chase For Jameis?” If the Bucs make the horrible mistake of drafting Winston, then don’t completely overhaul this offensive line, then the new title for Joe will be “Everybody Is Chasing Jameis”
February 6th, 2015 at 2:12 pm
Michael Oher was just released by the Titans. Bring him in to play OT. He has only been in the league 6 yrs and is a proven OT. Do it, pull the trigger.
February 6th, 2015 at 3:22 pm
The guy that just grabbed his fourth super bowl ring was a 6th round QB. Hell, Kurt Warner was undrafted. The claim you can’t get one later is garbage.. That being said, bring us Mariota!
February 6th, 2015 at 4:47 pm
that is not the claim. the better prospects/talents are at the top of the draft, period. why draft evans in the first last year? there are plenty of successful receivers drafted later, more so than qb’s.
February 6th, 2015 at 5:47 pm
Lot’s of holes, lot of options. FA will be interesting and color how the draft will go. Choose wisely my son. Then pick a franchise QB with the first pick please.
February 6th, 2015 at 6:09 pm
Skyline Crew Says:
February 6th, 2015 at 2:12 pm
Michael Oher was just released by the Titans. Bring him in to play OT. He has only been in the league 6 yrs and is a proven OT. Do it, pull the trigger.
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Good idea, we’ve never had problems with OLineman who appeared to peak before we signed them have we?
February 6th, 2015 at 6:34 pm
Joe, does every post have to have some component of you beating the drm for Winston like you did for the All Pro Johnny Manzell.
February 6th, 2015 at 10:42 pm
Skyline Crew Says:
February 6th, 2015 at 2:12 pm
Michael Oher was just released by the Titans. Bring him in to play OT. He has only been in the league 6 yrs and is a proven OT. Do it, pull the trigger.
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He has an injured toe. Ring a bell?