Schefter: “Sights Set” On Marcus Mariota
January 29th, 2015
Joe’s not sure of what to make of BSPN super insider Adam Schefter’s latest call on the Bucs’ choice with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2015 NFL Draft.
Schefter offered his five compelling offseason storylines, and Tampa Bay’s decision topped his list. He confirms NFL types like Jameis Winston as the top dog, but the Bucs are looking west — to Oregon.
1. Who will be the No. 1 pick in the 2015 draft? Many NFL executives and scouts believe Florida State’s Jameis Winston is the best pro quarterback prospect in this draft. Of course, teams still have three months to dig into Winston’s past and see what they can uncover. Plus, there’s a real sense that Tampa Bay has its sights set on Oregon quarterback Marcus Mariota. So for now, Mariota shapes up as the most likely No. 1 pick. But there are still three months of combine work, pro days, interviews and investigations to go.
Joe’s not really sure what Schefter is saying here. Fans can speculate left and right, backwards and forwards.
If Mariota and Winston had similar off-field histories, then Joe’s sure Winston would be the Bucs’ slam dunk No. 1 pick, whether Father Dungy or Rich Gannon believe otherwise or not.
For Joe, the question is whether the Bucs will go with the best prospect, or the guy least likely to be a bust.
Lovie Smith prides himself on being a glass-half-full human being, in all phases of his life. So Joe suspects Lovie is leaning Winston. However, Joe thinks Team Glazer ultimately will make this franchise-altering call.
January 29th, 2015 at 4:07 pm
Media drama comes with Winston, guilty or not. You don’t use a #1 on that. NFL is different today.
January 29th, 2015 at 4:11 pm
This Nfl ready stuff is ridiculous. They are both prospects and will have plenty of learning to do. They both have skills. The question is who will be the better student until fully ready. I’ll go with the smarter guy every time, and now we all know so will the Glazers. Move on everbody.
January 29th, 2015 at 4:18 pm
“there’s a real sense that Tampa Bay has its sights set on Oregon quarterback Marcus Mariota.”
Smoke screen in effect and doing its job….
If they can get a ton of high picks by trading down – then that will have to be considered – otherwise the pick will be Winston.
January 29th, 2015 at 4:26 pm
Joe schefter reporting this actually has truth behind it. Schefty is probably the only reliable source out there. He doesn’t shoot bs and is 99% accurate in his reports.
January 29th, 2015 at 4:27 pm
Pickgrin…it’s a definite smoke screen, but don’t tell that to the Super Mario fans.
January 29th, 2015 at 4:28 pm
“Many NFL executives and scouts believe Florida State’s Jameis Winston is the best pro quarterback prospect in this draft.”
They believe he’s the best QB prospect, but not the best prospect overall. Both QBs come with considerable risk. If the scouts, coaching staff and the Glazers aren’t convinced through their research that one of these guys can be, at the very least, a good NFL QB, they need to turn the pick into multiple picks for the next two drafts.
January 29th, 2015 at 4:29 pm
Chris…check back with Schefter in about 2 months.
January 29th, 2015 at 4:30 pm
Trade down to 20 with the Eagles and I’ll effing blow a head gasket.
January 29th, 2015 at 4:32 pm
According to a long-time executive in personnel for another NFC team, with an impeccable track record of evaluating quarterbacks, Mariota is the best player in the draft and one of the best quarterbacks to come out of the college ranks in years.
“He’s not as good as (Andrew) Luck,” the executive said of the Colts’ current quarterback. “Luck was the best I’ve scouted in years. But over the past five, six years, he’s the second best.”
According to the long-time NFL evaluator, it doesn’t matter where Mariota lands he’s going to be good.
“People are saying that system quarterback stuff,” he said. “That cracks me up. This kid is extremely talented. He’s exactly what you want. If you take him and you don’t play that system, you should. I mean, the system works.”
January 29th, 2015 at 4:32 pm
Mariota #1 baby. Let’s get us the best QB out there.
January 29th, 2015 at 4:34 pm
It’s funny how when an article comes out positive about Mariota that it is a smoke screen, but if it is positive about Winston then it is the truth and is not a smoke screen. Get out of here.
January 29th, 2015 at 4:36 pm
Yes Chris K., Both will have a learning curve. But if lets say the goal was to graduate high school Marcus M. would be in 1st grade and Jameis is a freshman. BTW Jameis is the smarter one on the field and in the classroom so you are right on the account too he is clearly the better choice.
January 29th, 2015 at 4:37 pm
HAHAHA Stanglass. That was a good one. False all the way, but a good one.
January 29th, 2015 at 4:37 pm
Trade down twice in the 1st round….and announce the truth to the fans….we are rebuilding !
January 29th, 2015 at 4:40 pm
Neither if these guys is ready day 1. Let’s be honest. They both need to work on multiple things to improve their game.
You dont use the 1st pick of the draft to win one season. You use it get a player that you can build a franchise around for years and years. Be smart.
January 29th, 2015 at 4:41 pm
don’t worry 87…their not trading all the way back to #20.
we would all hurl at that point, and lovie does not have several more years to even use those picks if he did.
he’ll trade back a little, and still get a haul and maybe a stud player and still get some picks for next year.
you’ll be happy, but you’ll have to stop the love letters to winston. 🙂
January 29th, 2015 at 4:42 pm
Stanglassman… You high?
January 29th, 2015 at 4:47 pm
Wonder where he got the “sense” that we are going to go against what many NFL scouts and executives think?
And before they have checked Jameis out for themselves? Or Marcus?
Kinda contradictory.
Hope he’s wrong, but if they go with Marcus it will still be exciting. Lots more than contemplating trying to go with McCown or Glennon.
Surely were gonna catch a break sometime.
January 29th, 2015 at 4:50 pm
I’m kind of sick of hearing about all this GPA stuff.
GPA does not equal common sense, maturity. humility or intelligence.
it sure as hell does not equal common sense or success.
January 29th, 2015 at 4:51 pm
I think they are seeing that NFL scouts and execs. are pining for Mariota so naturally they change their story.
January 29th, 2015 at 4:54 pm
super insider Adam Schefter’s draft predictions are often wrong…
January 29th, 2015 at 4:55 pm
Guy is a stud. Some good passing highlights for your enjoyment.
Rookie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl_aJ3SosGA
Sophmore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxcKmymn35Y
January 29th, 2015 at 4:57 pm
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Texans GM Rick Smith, whose team could lock up No. 1 pick today, spent Saturday night in Orlando watching QB Teddy Bridgewater.
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January 29th, 2015 at 4:57 pm
Skyline Crew …it’s a smoke screen to get picks or atleast see what they can get for the #1, plain and simple.
Not too many people are out there saying teams would be willing to trade up for Winston. There are however teams such as the Eagles that need want to trade the farm for Mariota. This is for Chip Kelly and nothing more.
You can go ahead and be delighted for a day I suppose…have fun.
3 more months to go!
January 29th, 2015 at 5:01 pm
Like I said many times before. I’ll support whichever way they choose to go, but if Winston goes onto shine in the NFL while our team still sucks. I might be rooting for the Fins along with Robert 9, 10 or 12.
January 29th, 2015 at 5:02 pm
That’s the exact same guy, Joe. Jameis is both the best prospect and the least likely to be a bust. Mariota won’t play a full 16 game season his entire career
January 29th, 2015 at 5:08 pm
Lovie is leaning Winston!?!? You can’t be serious Joe. Winston is the total opposite of what Lovie looks for in a person in his locker room. I can’t Believe you’d think That Lovie would prefer Winston over Mariota. No Chance
January 29th, 2015 at 5:10 pm
The players they are not taking and attempting to get teams to trade up for (Mariota and Winston) will be mentioned non-stop bewteen now and the draft.
The player actually being taken without a trade, Leonard Williams, you will hear nothing about. Welcome to the smokescreens.
January 29th, 2015 at 5:12 pm
After Lovie’s first season I dont have much faith in him, but I have enough to know that he wont take a chance on a QB like Mariota #1 Overall. That would be insane. Your all talking about bust potential in Winston because of off field issues, there is more bust potential in Mariota’s on field issues. Winston, D-Line man or trade down. I would even prefer an O-Lineman or Cooper before Mariota.
January 29th, 2015 at 5:15 pm
I bet winston kicks puppies. He walks the walk, talks the talk etc….but….
ever heard the saying “If it’s too good to be true, then it probably is.”
call me skeptical, but too many things pointing to major character defects that will keep him off the field.
January 29th, 2015 at 5:18 pm
LOL. He’s a regular Carnac the Magnificent. Here’s another Schefter gem:
Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter
Alabama OC Lane Kiffin is a front-runner for 49ers OC job. Colts special assistant to HC Rob Chudzinski also under consideration.
9:53 AM – 18 Jan 2015
January 29th, 2015 at 5:20 pm
A few comments:
1. It seems that a lot of people scream smokescreen as soon as a big name insider reports the Bucs interest in Mariota. Yeah, it’s early in the process, but Mariota is no slouch and has the tools to be an elite player. For all the people that want to slam him, perhaps that is also a smokescreen to get him to drop. I have to guess that if Mariota has a good workout and checks out in his interview, he’ll be the number one pick. This leads me to #2:
2. For the comment about the Texans scouting Bridgewater and obviously going in a different direction, let us not forget that Teddy had an infamously bad workout that caused him to plummet to the end of the first round. At the time of the Scheft tweet, Teddy was the projected top pick.
3. Finally, for those that want the Bucs to trade back in the draft…Look, the Bucs can do that in 2016. While the division is weak and it’s possible the Bucs can bounce from worst to first next season, in the event that the team is rebuilding and wins something like 5 or 6 games and the QB is progressing, the Bucs could use a high draft pick to trade to a QB hungry team or whatever to land more picks to boost the team. You have to take a chance on the QB, you just do. For a team that never had a long term franchise QB, if ever even a franchise QB, you have to take a shot with the number one overall pick. If it hits, the payoff is franchise altering.
January 29th, 2015 at 5:22 pm
IF THEY DRAFT WINSTON I WILL NEVER EVER WATCH THE BUC’S AGAIN AND SO WILL A LOT OF PEOPLE I KNOW AND GOES TO THE GAME AND ON THE ROAD TO GAMES ,,OUR SEASON TICKETS WILL END ,,,FACT !!!!!!!
January 29th, 2015 at 5:25 pm
@87ForJameisNoMariota Says:
“Trade down to 20 with the Eagles and I’ll effing blow a head gasket.”
You and me both brother. AND I will drop my 25years of being a Bucs fan and move on!!
January 29th, 2015 at 5:25 pm
@gregwitful
“At the time of the Scheft tweet,”
That’s the point. It’s worthless to believe anything whether they have Winston or Mariota or anyone else going No.1. There’s no workouts, or the combine or interviews. In addition to the smokescreen aspect.
He was also wrong about Lane Kiffin as I posted above.
It’s not about wanting a certain person. It’s just funny how people get excited about a rumor in January…for anyone.
January 29th, 2015 at 5:33 pm
Here’s our bit for yet a new theory:
Bucs draft Mariota then trade him to Philadelphia in some sort of blockbuster multi-player deal……
January 29th, 2015 at 5:35 pm
IF THEY DRAFT WINSTON I WILL NEVER EVER WATCH THE BUC’S AGAIN AND SO WILL A LOT OF PEOPLE I KNOW AND GOES TO THE GAME AND ON THE ROAD TO GAMES ,,OUR SEASON TICKETS WILL END ,,,FACT !!!!!!!
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And you’ll be right back once the wins pile up. See you soon buddy.
January 29th, 2015 at 5:36 pm
HA! We’re focusing in on Maroita and the combine hasn’t even taken place…Wow…These sports reporters are too funny…Prepare to here this flip flop a lot until the combine…
Although it seems Mariota doesn’t have to gonads to throw on an even playing field with Winston so he says he’s hurt and cant throw at the combine; how convenient…Even if we choose to pass on Winston (which Imo would be a huge mistake) I do NOT! want Marcus “Twinkle toes” Mariota…(he’s soft as lamb, NFL defenders would devour him) take Williams or trade down…
Mark my words, Winston will make it hard for the Bucs to pass on him, he’s a true competitor to bone, so I expect him to steal the show at the combine…
January 29th, 2015 at 5:38 pm
Joe what do u mean u dont understand what he is saying, the quote says it plain as day. Not saying I agree with Adam but what is there not to understand about what he said? Everyone has their opinions, all of the talking heads are going in all different directions yet when its a pro winston opinion its worth its weight in gold if someone says anything about anyone other than Winston you are scratching your head and cant understand them like they are speaking another language.
January 29th, 2015 at 5:43 pm
I hope the Bucs are just jockeying for the Eagles picks and Nick Foles, a proven winning All Pro QB.
I don’t think either of these guys will make it in the NFL. Mariotta might if he can get in offensive scheme like Oregon”s, but I don’t see an easy transition to an NFL QB without a lot of losses first.
Foles and four high draft picks would sure stock up a team in need of talent. Foles is at least as good as Matt Ryan and who wouldn’t want him.
January 29th, 2015 at 5:52 pm
Nick Foles is as proven as Josh Freeman was when he had his 10 win season. Foles regressed last year and for all we know, he could be a product of Chip Kelly’s offense. This is Philadelphia we are talking about, after all. They were flipping QBs back when Andy Reid was coach and it never worked out for the other team. Why trade a proven all-pro for a rookie QB, even if that QB has superstar potential and especially when Philly has a weak defense? It makes no sense.
@Love and Warrick Dunn: You make a good point and while I think nothing is set in stone for the Bucs this early in the process, I have to think that they are high on Mariota, it’s just that everyone wants to jump to a conclusion in January when we really won’t know anything until closer to the draft, perhaps sometime in April, which just makes sense.
January 29th, 2015 at 5:53 pm
Skip on Mariota and he has a successful career while we still suck and 87 will be a Fins fan.
January 29th, 2015 at 5:53 pm
As I have stated before I lean Mariota but I take everything talking heads say with a grain of salt but I also don’t completely ignore it. What I will say is that I wouldn’t fully believe information if Lovies mom told me at this point in the process.
January 29th, 2015 at 5:54 pm
LOL…I have observed 3 types of commenters on here.
1. Winston jock sniffers who will find a new team if we do not draft him.
2. Winston haters who will find a new team to root for if the Bucs take Winston.
3. Bucs fans who want the Bucs to become champions again regardless if that is a combination of free agency and smart draft decisions and regardless if through due diligence it is Winston, Mariota or a DT, DE or OT either at the 1st pick or through trading down.
Now, I question if the types that fall into 1 and 2 above are really Bucs fans at all. To say you will quit being a fan if the Bucs do or do not draft Winston is in my opinion just lame. Go ahead and find a new team now. Why wait? There are a lot of people here who are true Bucs fans and have been since day one, who have suffered through more losing than any fans should. These people do not jump ship because they are obsessed with one prospect or disgusted by the same. Being a true Bucs fan right now is more than loving or hating Winston or Mariota. So if you fall into category 1 or 2 above than good bye and good riddance. If you are in the 3rd category then you are here for the long run and are not going anywhere. The third category of people have my respect and I am sure the Bucs appreciate your loyalty. If you fall into category 1 or 2 and want to come to your senses and be smarter than your comments make you appear, then you are more than welcome to join the true fans. I am not calling out any individuals on here. You can assess for yourselves where you fall above. I am proud to be in category 3 and accept the Bucs decisions whatever they may be. This is not to insinuate if you prefer one pick over the next that you fall into category 1 or 2 but if you are so extreme as to threaten to find a new team or to root against the picks success here if it is not your guy, then you know who you are and don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!!!
January 29th, 2015 at 6:03 pm
@ armchairgm
I agree…..he spoke clearly to me…..Schefter says NFL scouts think Winston is best prospect….but think Bucs will take Mariota at this point…..clear as can be.
I do appreciated Joe finally bringing forward positive articles on Mariota and even negative ones on Winston.
Either way, many Buc fans will not get their choice of QB and there will be some mending necessary with the fanbase.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:03 pm
Amen Rayjay
January 29th, 2015 at 6:03 pm
@rayjay1122: While I would place myself in category three of your list, you really need to add a fourth category: Draft a QB number one. I don’t care if it’s Mariota or Winston, and if for some reason the Bucs trade down or picked a non-QB, I’ll of course remain a fan of the team, but I am all aboard the Draft a QB train…You have to do it. Look how many times the Bucs were bad and not in a position to have a choice between two talented QBs. I hope like heck the Bucs pick the right QB and the franchise will be re-energized but forget about trading down with Philly and go with the QB, please.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:05 pm
Just imagine if Joe had posted negative articles on Manziel. Nobody would have wanted him.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:06 pm
I bet Joe is having blood pressure problems and heart palpitations getting out of Tampa and hearing all of the real NFL people not endorsing his man-crush Winston and promoting Mariota. I bet he will have quite a few adult beverages tonight to drown his sorrows. Sometimes a dose of reality is hard to fathom
January 29th, 2015 at 6:07 pm
Standard smoke screen. Please inhale deeply and enjoy.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:08 pm
With the exception of Colts and Andrew Luck, ain’t no team going to outright reveal who they plan to take. Smoke screen helps Bucs drive up value for their pick and listen to offers. Also messes with other teams as they jockey for position.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:14 pm
@thegregwitful: I concur personally that we need to with the power we have in the draft, get our future QB. I have not decided yet which one or if there is some other QB they have evaluated who may surprise us all. I just do know that the current QB’s on our roster are not the answer. I am just sick of the marginal fans who place more on a prospect than on our team. Nothing wrong with wanting a QB first.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:14 pm
It’s not a stretch for Lovie to sit there and think, Tony (Dungy) thinks do highly of him (Mariota) and I don’t have to worry about distraction. He won’t be careless with the ball. I have the coaches to build be him up and if we are bad I can start him the last few games to have something to build on.
As of right now that may be a how Lovie looks at Mariota.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:14 pm
@Sapp
Exactly. We have already heard that the Bucs favor Winston, now we will hear that they favor Mariota, then we will hear they favor Williams, then we will hear they favor whoever the star of the combine will be….
Just driving up the value of their #1 pick
January 29th, 2015 at 6:18 pm
Rayjay…let me reiterate once again. If the Bucs pass on Winston and our team still sucks for years after that while Winston goes to the playoffs with another team. I am done. I’ve seen enough in my 20 plus years as a fan.
However if the Bucs pass on Winston and he goes onto shine while we make the playoffs too. I’ll stick by this inept team of ours.
I hope I made myself clear.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:20 pm
Eric Hernandez…good points, but I suspect fans will be calling for Mariota by week 4.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:26 pm
I think Lovie buys himself a third year with Mariota developing in year two….I believe the Glazers will make this choice and Lovie benefits.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:29 pm
So Adam reports NFL executives have Winston as the best QB prospect but mentions the Bucs are leaning Mariota, the lesser of the two? SMFH! Dom, Raheem and Schiano all lauded their draft picks for being captains, leaders and all around good guys. Thanks fellas, now we’re arguably the softest team in the league with our best player helping dudes up off the ground. So now we’re going to pass on the best QB in the draft for s nice young kid… If Mariota comes in and plays confused and inaccurate, Mike Evans and the locker room will chew and spit this kid out. We need someone on this team that will call fools out like Sapp use to.
This team has a lot of issues but being soft is #1.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:30 pm
TBBF…not if the record is 2-14 again…or 4-12. Then he’s cooked.
Lovie developing a QB…..really.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:34 pm
Many Bucs fans(including me) think they should trade out of the top spot to pick up additional picks to fill the many holes on this roster since neither of the top 2 QB’s are worth that pick. However you can’t trade down unless you have a trade partner and that may be easier said than done. If somebody wanted to trade up for the top pick it would be to get one of the QB’s or Williams. But for that team it’s risky.
If it’s Winston a team has to decide if they want to give up top picks to draft a player that is a total crapshoot and a major gamble. No team wants to watch their trade partner use the picks they got from you to build a solid roster while the one dice roll they took was either very overrated or is having character and league issues that you knew could possibly happen due to his past pattern of questionable behavior.
If it’s Mariota you have to know 100% that you can turn him into an NFL QB and bank on him for the next 10 years or so. Just because he hasn’t played under center doesn’t mean he can’t but you have to feel that he can from what you saw at his pro day and private workout.
If it’s Williams, who is probably the most safe pick out of the 3 you have to really need pass rush and D-Line help and hope that he lives up to all of those J.J. Watt comparisons
My point is while the Bucs may drive up the price of their #1 pick, they may be forced to stay there because nobody else will want to give up numerous high picks to draft one of those three. Then the Bucs will have to figure out which will be the most safe pick for them
January 29th, 2015 at 6:34 pm
87
Agree….still needs to improve record…..and, I didn’t say anything about Lovie developing a QB…..I said “with Mariota developing”…….assume his development will be by Koetter & Bajakian….
January 29th, 2015 at 6:35 pm
87
What about passing on Mariota and he goes to the playoffs while suck for years.You gonna quit the Bucs?
January 29th, 2015 at 6:37 pm
@87
Three more months for you to be Winston cheerleader……all for 3 days of condolences after the rejection. Hope you’re up for it…..I’m OK either way, so easier for me.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:37 pm
While we suck for years.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:39 pm
I will say this….I will likely be very pi$$ed if we don’t use our first pick for a QB.
I am in the minority…but I think both of these guys will be good NFL QBs……elite…..who knows?
January 29th, 2015 at 6:42 pm
why would the bucs go with the injured qb in mariota? is his injury from the tackle from the championship game? i hope not…smh
January 29th, 2015 at 6:42 pm
I will say this no draft pick will ever make me question my Buc fandom. Thats just ridiculously stupid. However, I freely admit I will cry like a girl if we pass on Winston.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:42 pm
@87ForJameisNoMariota: To be fair, if the Bucs indeed pass on Winston, it won’t be because of his abilities. I have more confidence in this regime not making a Mark Barron over Luke Kuechly type blunder of a draft choice in round one. If it’s Mariota and he grows into the position and Winston has more immediate success, it is what it is. The hope is that one of these guys is a success for the Bucs. If it takes Mariota an extra season or two, that is fine, so long as he pans out.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:43 pm
@87
I find your comment a little contradictory. Also, I did not call you out or categorize you. If you will jump ship if we pass on Winston and we continue to suck then that is your right but it is in my opinion being a quitter if you are really a die hard Bucs fan. Then you go on to say that if Winston becomes great somewhere else and the Bucs also get make into the playoffs then you will keep rooting for our “inept” team? If we get back to being a playoff team, how does that qualify them as “inept”? Maybe I misunderstood your comment but it seemed like a contradiction. If I misunderstood then please elaborate? If you desire Winston so much and we pass on him and continue to struggle then you can become a fan of whoever he plays for. Your comments lead me to believe you are in category 1 of my original post? I hope you are not though. It seems like you have enough time invested in the team to be in category 3. I also find it to be a coincidence that you have been a fan since 87 which is the same year that we drafted Testaverde with the 1st pick? It would be ironic that you jump ship if we do not draft your QB this year with the 1st pick.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:43 pm
Here is a thought, let’s just erase the first pick for now.
Does anyone think with the combination of picks 2-7, new free agents, stability on the offensive side of the ball and another year in Lovie’s system on defense side of the ball we might a good team? Could we win 7-8 games?
January 29th, 2015 at 6:44 pm
A seven- or eight-win team is not a good team.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:46 pm
Posey99 Says:
January 29th, 2015 at 4:07 pm
Media drama comes with Winston, guilty or not. You don’t use a #1 on that. NFL is different today.
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Worked out pretty well for Cam Newton and the Panthers.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:47 pm
joe Says:
January 29th, 2015 at 6:44 pm
Does anyone think with the combination of picks 2-7, new free agents, stability on the offensive side of the ball and another year in Lovie’s system on defense side of the ball we might a good team? Could we win 7-8 games?
A seven- or eight-win team is not a good team.
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Eight wins might not make a good team, but it would sure be a helluva lot better than anything we’ve had here since 2010.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:48 pm
If you were tuned in to the Big Dog yesterday he was toughing this QB guru that we were going to get the real deal on the 2 QBs he was almost giddy the coach was going to tell him that MM was the man and he could not wait to ask the question who he thinks the Bucs are going to take and when he said JW
IN A HART BEAT!!!! he was almost speechless. my point is this this coach has worked with alot of QBs from High School to the pros not with MM as of yet
he did say that he was a huge fan MM but JW is the man at that point Dog says I know you have to go so tell us how to get a hold of you. as he is leaving he gives go Bucs. Dog should have asked him what you see in him and all the other good ones like what is his attitude, work ethic ect.
I know alot of you are afraid of his off the field stuff,but I my self do not care about that and dissmiss it as some thig he has grown out of, as far as the rape thing I was on the side of If he did it he should be arrested and tried in court I was still on that side when the cops did not do anything, then the states Att. Meggs follows suite and some info comes out that here story changed a few times.but I started to doubt here story, then A ex Florida Supreme Court Judge could not bring charges, more doubt now is creeping in, but when I found out that that she asked for 7 mill. to go away it was over for me so now draft him and building a team around him This kid has the IT FACTOR he will be a star and and the bucs are on there way back. Update MM would not work out with JW at Clarksons QB camp? Whats up with that a little bit of TUDE ?
January 29th, 2015 at 6:49 pm
if we drafted luke kuechly we would not have drafted lavonte david.
January 29th, 2015 at 6:52 pm
@ Joe
Exactly. I remember the good old days in Tampa when going 9-7 or losing a playoff game got the head coach fired and the roster made over. Sigh……
January 29th, 2015 at 6:52 pm
Please trade down. Build around glennon. Even our new OC sees a Matt Ryan like prospect with Glennon . Why the glennon haters. The is has done everything one could do in the situation he was dealt.new coaches, new systems every year.no O line. Although if you trade glennon he will go on to a team that appreciates him and it will be anther playoff qb we get rid of.ive been a fan 30+years and we never can evaluate good qbs(young,Williams )hell we won a ring with brad Johnson. Trade the pick Draft a DE,OL,G, and steal ether hundley or Mannion late in draft and we can be successful again. Also any one who thinks glennon got his chance last year and didn’t prove he was a gamer wasn’t watching the game just the score. no Oline and no Offensive coordinator
January 29th, 2015 at 6:57 pm
we didn’t draft a qb last year, as we needed, and we suffered. we will always suffer.
glennon is not the answer at qb…unless the question is “who is not the answer at qb?”
January 29th, 2015 at 6:57 pm
@ Brandon
So stealing a computer is equal now to alleged rape and sexual assault, shoplifting, vandalism and shouting obsenities in public ?
January 29th, 2015 at 7:03 pm
Can’t even begin to say how dumb it is to draft Mariota when you have Winston staring you in the face. Mariota is so far from ready it boggles the mind how you could pick him number 1. If Lovie does this, I will be beating the drum for him to get fired after Winston has a good rookie season and Mariota turns out to be a “nice” bum.
January 29th, 2015 at 7:04 pm
@ NO QB
You are correct. We really don’t know what all Glennon could be as we have only seen him in very bad offensive play systems and behind very bad offensive lines. I consider him to be better than Winston or Matiota at this point because he has 2 years of NFL experience and coaching
January 29th, 2015 at 7:05 pm
@fish1948 couldn’t agree with you more
January 29th, 2015 at 7:06 pm
I think we just have to go QB with our 1st pick. I am not an NFL college QB scout, so I will leave that decision to the professionals. If it is Winston then I am all in and if it is Mariota I am also all in. I just want my favorite sports franchise to be winners again. I like support the Bolts and Rays too but the Bucs take up the #1 spot in my heart. I am tired of heartache.
January 29th, 2015 at 7:08 pm
Skyline Crew Says:
January 29th, 2015 at 6:35 pm
87
“What about passing on Mariota and he goes to the playoffs while suck for years.You gonna quit the Bucs?”
Yes sir. They better take either one.
@rayjay….okay I gotcha now. Maybe I shouldn’t have used that word inept, because like you said obviously they won’t be inept if they make the playoffs. Let’s just say if Lovie builds a solid defense (I question that he will)like the glory days and we have another Trent Dilfer at QB while making the playoffs that would make me put them in the category of inept. I’ve been down this road before and I’ve waited SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
long for a “franchise QB”.
I hope that clears it up a little. I’ve come to a cross roads with this team. So they better not screw this chance up. Just take either one and I’ll be happy.
January 29th, 2015 at 7:11 pm
You can’t risk everything on a guy you can’t trust. He has proven he can’t be trusted. You can’t even swear in BUCS locker room. Dude has a rap sheet.
January 29th, 2015 at 7:12 pm
All I am going to say is if anyone on this site that has actually watched these two players play and still think the better player is mariota then you don’t know what a true thrower of the football looks like. Bottom line I want to win and you win by taking the best player period. That is jameis winston period.
January 29th, 2015 at 7:23 pm
@87
OK. I get what you are trying to say. Thanks for clarifying.
January 29th, 2015 at 7:24 pm
@ ndog
You mean when he was throwing all of those interceptions against bad teams?
January 29th, 2015 at 7:26 pm
@ndog ” if anyone on this site that has actually ‘objectively’ watched these two players play and still think the better player is mariota then you don’t know what a true thrower of the football looks like.”
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Added one more word and I totally agree
January 29th, 2015 at 7:27 pm
All I know is that Lovie smith needs to win AT LEAST 9 wins just to be as bad of a coach as schiano. He better win 12 games.
January 29th, 2015 at 7:28 pm
A little of topic but sounds pretty cool: http://chicago.suntimes.com/bears-football/7/71/327920/chicago-plans-turn-nfl-draft-fan-fest
January 29th, 2015 at 7:29 pm
Mariota is the obvious choice for now. If something happens between now and the draft that changes that I would be surprised. Only thing that would change that would be his Pro day or if he has surgery. Other than that Mariota’s skill set is much better than Winston’s. Both QBs are the best since Luck. It really is just a matter of which QB the regime wants and go along for the ride. Both could be successful and both could suck. We’ll just have to wait and see.
January 29th, 2015 at 7:29 pm
The bucs are picking mariota I know for a fact and I love it this guy is going to be a great one
January 29th, 2015 at 7:31 pm
Again you have no idea what you are talking about. You look at stats in a vacum. Those stats don’t account for what a qb is being asked to do, or the situation, or the supporting cast. All of those things effect those stats but that’s what watching the games and UNDERSTANDING what you are watching means, which apparently you do not do. Picks do not always equate to a bad play by the quarterback and if you are asked to do more of course your going to throw more picks. Do you not think by going no huddle every play it made reading the defense a lot easier to read defenses for Mariota? If it doesn’t then why did they do it? You can’t just ignore all the facts unless you don’t understand the game.
January 29th, 2015 at 7:36 pm
Let me also had….it will be one of the hardest decisions in my life to abandon this team if it comes to that.
January 29th, 2015 at 7:37 pm
add*
January 29th, 2015 at 7:39 pm
ndog…correct Oregon ran a gimmicky O, thus blowing up Mariota’s stats.
You’re also correct many of Winston’s picks were tipped balls off of his young WR corps hands.
That’s why I say I’m sold on Winston, and Mariota I’m not so sure, just like many scouts are saying. Not so sure.
January 29th, 2015 at 7:41 pm
I am actually ok with keeping Glennon to bridge the gap for a young QB to sit and learn but I do not think Glennon will ever be an elite franchise QB. He may resemble Matty Ice but he is not another Matty Ice. I think Glennon can be a game manager and can hold down an NFL roster spot as a back up but he could not even keep McClown on the bench. Yes I understand the offense was a train wreck without a coordinator but McClown did not have a coordinator either. Just saying. So, yes I do think since we passed on the QB position in last years draft, that we must lock up one this draft. Which QB to draft is not my decision and at this point, I believe it is too early to really know. I will totally be the biggest supporter of whichever one we may select as well as whoever gap until the rookie is ready. Go Bucs!!!
January 29th, 2015 at 7:42 pm
Glennon was benched to tank the season.
January 29th, 2015 at 7:42 pm
Rumor is Winston was at a new home construction on David Island today.
January 29th, 2015 at 7:44 pm
For me it is choice a is jameis choice b us trade pick choice c is best dinemen choice d is best o lineman
January 29th, 2015 at 7:45 pm
I would prepare yourself for 4 scenarios: Mariota, Winston, Williams, trade.
January 29th, 2015 at 7:47 pm
Of course anything other than a QB and 87 is gone.
January 29th, 2015 at 7:54 pm
@Skyline: I think one of the 4 scenarios you listed is most likely what will happen. If one of the QB’s may slide down, I would nab Williams and trade back into the 1st round to hopefully still get one of the QB’s. It may sound like a stretch but crazier things have happened.
January 29th, 2015 at 7:55 pm
This is Impossible.. If the bucs scouts actually perceive Marcus as a better prospect and more potential then Buc football is doomed. It would be bigger than the Gains Adams flop!!
Here is a scouts accurate analysis of both.. It’s so incredibly obvious how much a better prospect Winston is, it’s rediculous! I don’t think he is a first rounder!!! and if the Bucs can’t see this, then something is terribly wrong in Bucville.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CUeQ-QVoBY&x-yt-ts=1422503916&feature=player_embedded&x-yt-cl=85027636 J.Winston
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=85027636&v=bWqZ_A87Qw8&feature=player_embedded&x-yt-ts=1422503916 M.Mariota
January 29th, 2015 at 7:58 pm
@patrick
“@ Brandon
So stealing a computer is equal now to alleged rape and sexual assault, shoplifting, vandalism and shouting obsenities in public?”
Exactly.
January 29th, 2015 at 8:06 pm
Their workouts at the combine and pro days will not be far off except for Mariotta’s athleticism will be off the charts. Their throws and arm strength are very similar. The difference maker will be the interviews and back ground checks. MM will excel at both of those whereas Shameis will struggle with both. This isn’t even a debate IMO. Only people who are naïve enough to believe a team would use the #1 pick in the draft for that garbage of a person will happen. It won’t. Either Mariotta or we trade down. Book it b1tches
January 29th, 2015 at 8:12 pm
Anyone who thinks Winston is a far superior QB to Mariota is kidding themselves. 18 int’s isbig I know people are going to brush it off. I decided to take a look at game tape of Winston looking specifically at the int’s. No I’m not a hater I just wanted to see why.
Here is how I broke it down:
1st Int; Winston drops back, Blitzer up the middle no chance to avoid throws to a crossing Nick O’leary picked off. Now I believe a pro ready QB can spot the blitz and audible to a hot route or adjust protection how this really was NOT his fault it happens.
2nd Int; Winston drops back goes to the WR on the corner route is picked off. Now throws late into triple coverage. Not smart, had an underneath WR with less coverage but decided on hero ball. This one is his fault.
3rd int; short and simple, tried to hit the WR on the post route, either didn’t see the LB or thought he could get the over either way his fault.
Now this isn’t to hate because he also made great throws. Stood in the pocket, stared down the rush and delivered the ball with accuracy. (Something Maroita has yet to prove he can do) this is more about Winston still needing to improve. I see alittle Eli manning or Jay Cutler in his play. He will have multiple interception games but will also win you some as well.
January 29th, 2015 at 8:16 pm
They may very well take “the most overrated qb in draft history ” but still doesn’t mean they won’t be dead wrong. And if anyone thinks Mariota has the same arm strength and accuracy as Jameis you are watching a different tape than me (and most of the free world).
January 29th, 2015 at 8:19 pm
Underneath coverage and pressure up the middle has always been a knock on Winston. Oregon and Florida both exposed that. If Mariota played under center then we wouldn’t have this debate and Mariota would be number 1.
January 29th, 2015 at 8:20 pm
I think Winston is the overrated QB. I’m not the only one either.
January 29th, 2015 at 8:21 pm
Skyline Crew Says:
January 29th, 2015 at 7:29 pm
“Mariota’s skill set is much better than Winston’s.”
Ummm – No its not. The vast majority of NFL “experts” say Winston is the more talented QB – especially when projecting his skills into the NFL. Even many of those experts who are pushing or mocking Mariota as the #1 pick concede that Winston’s talent is either equal to or above Mariota’s but feel the supposed “character concerns” make Mariota the better pick in their eyes.
If Winston was squeeky clean off the field – he would be the choice for #1 pick by damn near everyone.
January 29th, 2015 at 8:23 pm
You obviously don’t understand skill set.
January 29th, 2015 at 8:29 pm
It’s this simple: Is Josh McCown a mobile quarterback or a pocket passer?
He is the one they brought in, so that tells us what they want. A mobile quarterback.
Certainly, Winston is nowhere close to that.
As to Mariota needing time to develop? He’ll have it, because the offensive line and the rest of the team is still in development.
Anyone that believes we will make the playoffs this year is disillusion. It’s okay to “hope for the best” or for the playoffs, but predicting them at this point? Far too early and very unlikely.
So a year to develop for Mariota is fine.
Of course, ’87’ isn’t going to like this article (see? I can do that too!), because it contradicts what he believes the Bucs will do.
January 29th, 2015 at 8:29 pm
Since when is shouting obscenities in public a crime? C’mon now. Alleged rape is not a big deal either considering all that is involved in this particular case but thats the only thing that means anything to the Bucs. But hey let’s keep crying wolf like sheep I guess.
January 29th, 2015 at 8:30 pm
Is shouting obscenities in public is such a big deal, man I know a lot of people that should be locked up. Of course none of you choir boys have ever done anything wrong I’m sure.
January 29th, 2015 at 8:31 pm
If Winston was squeeky clean off the field – he would be the choice for #1 pick by damn near everyone.
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Common sense is strong in you.
January 29th, 2015 at 8:33 pm
And if Mariota played under center then he would be #1. I can do that too.
January 29th, 2015 at 8:38 pm
MGM will prevail. Neither MM or Shameis are worthy of a #1, let the talking heads keep drumming up both, it makes Filthadephia want to hock all their draft picks.
January 29th, 2015 at 8:41 pm
What gives Winston the edge is the pro style offense he ran. This allowed him to make audibles at the line. He makes NFL throws. He still makes alot of dangerous throws. But will be able to start but anyone thinking we are getting Andrew Luck I say don’t hold your breath.
No expert is really debating Mariota’s physical tools in fact he is the superior athlete to Winston. The one thing they all say is I don’t know. And that’s true. No one knows.
All this said I still say Winston will be the pick. The Bucs management will fall in love with him the same way Carolina did with Newton.
January 29th, 2015 at 9:01 pm
Skyline you’re about one thing if Mariota played under center we would not be having this debate. That is because you would see how average he is when having to do what real qbs have to do outside of that offense built to make it mass confusion for the defense.
January 29th, 2015 at 9:02 pm
If it helps you sleep at night ndog.
January 29th, 2015 at 9:07 pm
Joe,
You’re better than this article. BS innuendo, speculation and opinions presented as facts are all littered after the Schefter quote. You’re losing credibility by the hour.
Just do your due diligence on Mariota/Winston like you failed to with Bridgewater/Manziel. Stop buying into the media drivel/local hype and allowing it bias your reporting and analysis. This is the Barrett Ruud FA situation repeating itself in perpetuity. Stubborn Joe just don’t know football.
Joe doesn’t even know what you’re talking about. If you don’t want Joe’s informed opinion, don’t read the website. Second, Joe wrote dozens of times that his picks for the Bucs at QB last year, in the draft, were Johnny Football and Bridgewater. The archives are here for all to read. Third, Joe is biased. Anyone reading this site regularly knows that. Joe doesn’t hide from his opinions. Go read the newspaper if that’s what you’re seeking. … And as for calling Joe ignorant, you’re the same guy who was convinced the Bucs wouldn’t trade for Revis. –Joe
January 29th, 2015 at 9:11 pm
So we’re you impressed by all the times mariota brought his team back to win by throwing the ball all over the yard when the defenses knew what they were going to throw and just couldn’t stop him? Of course you weren’t because it never happened unlike the person you are directly comparing him to. Did You even see how helpless he looked when behind ohio state and had to throw. I mean we all knew the game was over and was not bringing them back and that is who you want leading our team?
January 29th, 2015 at 9:18 pm
Did you see Winston against Oregon? Looked lost and had happy feet. Is that what you want leading your team? The speed of Oregon had him confused and running.
January 29th, 2015 at 9:25 pm
Did you see against Notre Dame, Louisville, NC State, etc…. Don’t avoid the topic Mariota cannot put a team on his shoulders and bring them back in college! But he’s going to magically do it in the NFL? Don’t ignore the facts just because you think he might be a bad guy.
January 29th, 2015 at 9:27 pm
He has come from begin before. He didn’t put his team behind in every game like Winston did. Winston was the reason FSU was behind every game.
January 29th, 2015 at 9:29 pm
@Skyline watch the Oregon game again. Winston looked good even though he got a lot of pressure up the middle. He was still able to make good throws. Mariota on the other hand was basically mute when he got pressure from Ohio St. Don’t let your hate of Winston cloud your judgement. If you don’t want him because you can’t trust him, that is fine and people certainly have that right.
January 29th, 2015 at 9:31 pm
And if Mariota played under center then he would be #1. I can do that too.
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Wrong. That just solves 1 issue. What about his weak arm and inaccuracy? Not to mention can he read a defense at all? Thats a legitimate question since the system he’s in didnt require it.
January 29th, 2015 at 9:33 pm
I wonder how many people you question Maroita would have taken Colin Kapernic after the Ravens/49ers SB with the first pick?
You project the PLAYER not the system. If you believe in time Maroita can run your offense you draft if you think he can’t you don’t. It’s as simple as that.
January 29th, 2015 at 9:35 pm
Hahahahah you Winston fanboys crack me up. No use talking to you all. You don’t like Winston you hater. You’re racist because you don’t like Winston. You’re dumb because you like Mariota. You guys are awesome. Glad you aren’t making decisions for the Bucs. Very narrow and short sighted view of what football is.
January 29th, 2015 at 9:40 pm
2 minutes left in a game, you need a TD to win, which is a very common scenario in the NFL. Who do you trust more? Winston whos done it time and time again and is undefeated in those situations or Mariota whos lost more times than he’s won in the same situation?
I know who I’d choose.
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January 29th, 2015 at 9:51 pm
@ndog
I’ve seen Winston play every one of his games at FSU and the reason those picks came off of his reciever’s hands were because those were inaccurate throws that the recievers were reaching for thus keeping them high and in play. He will be a turnover machine in the NFL
January 29th, 2015 at 9:52 pm
if they even take pinhead Winston he will not be starting that’s for sure lovie needs to win and your superman phsyco Winston is not going to come in and start winning football games period. he is overrated and young. I agree with trading the pick this team needs players. AND YOU WINSTON LOVERS CAN GO SH*T IN YOUR HAT!!!!! I HOPE HE BLOWS OUT HIS KNEE AT THE COMBINE.
January 29th, 2015 at 9:56 pm
@ Couch
The reason you are behind and need a TD to win is because of all of Winston’s 1st half interceptions and his NFL version of his Rose Bowl Josh McCown spinning butt-fumble
January 29th, 2015 at 9:58 pm
So a couple of questions to the Mariota fanboys.
1. Does Mariota make any inaccurate throws?
2. Do you know if he can make the throws that Winston makes?
3. Can he make line calls and other audibles?
I really haven’t seen him do it. You “project” that he can. I “know” Winston can because I’ve seen him do it. Please answer the questions.
January 29th, 2015 at 10:02 pm
@ MR. PAT exactly!
January 29th, 2015 at 10:03 pm
Yes Mariota makes inaccurate throws.
Yes he can make the throws.
Yes he can make line calls and audible.
January 29th, 2015 at 10:05 pm
mikeh…Your so sensitive today. Is it a Midol day for you, or do you just need to change your tampon?
January 29th, 2015 at 10:07 pm
I´m not a Mariota fanboy. I’m prepared for 4 scenarios come draft time. I prefer Mariota because of his skill set. I will accept it if we draft Winston. Can you say the same if they draft Mariota? Some on here would have a heart attack and then leave the Bucs.
January 29th, 2015 at 10:16 pm
yeah that’s it! bone head just sick and tired of your effin crying about your girl friend Winston. who will be the next Russell pryor or freemon. or vick overrated and suck!
January 29th, 2015 at 10:17 pm
Skyline…who said they would leave the Bucs if they drafted Mariota?
I’m fairly certain mikeh will wind up in a mental ward somewhere if they draft Winston. So he won’t leave under is own free will, but he will leave.
January 29th, 2015 at 10:19 pm
mikeh…who’s crying?
I’ve not cried once. I always maintain that the Bucs WILL draft Winston when the time comes.
I have no need for tears honeybunch. I’m as happy as a clam. I’ll be even more happy when I hear that name on draft day.
January 29th, 2015 at 10:21 pm
Luther says: “Can he (Mariota) make all of the throws that Winston does? ”
NO – Mariota can’t throw all of those Interceptions
January 29th, 2015 at 10:25 pm
Couch there’s no reasoning with them.
Tune in tomorrow when they repeat the same old drivel again.
Tune in on draft day and see how much time they wasted.
For those that went to Pasco County schools : drivel : silly, nonsense
January 29th, 2015 at 10:26 pm
if they draft you teddy bear I wont care half as much as you if they don’t . you really think lovie wants this kid when he don’t even like to hear a coach or player swear! ya ok! LMFAO!!!!!
January 29th, 2015 at 10:33 pm
Is it tourettes?
Can anyone explain it?
Is it a 5 year old run amok on his parents computer?
What gives?
January 29th, 2015 at 10:45 pm
The reason you are behind and need a TD to win is because of all of Winston’s 1st half interceptions and his NFL version of his Rose Bowl Josh McCown spinning butt-fumble
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But yet he still wins, which is the point to playing the game. If your looking for QB who will be perfect… well, good luck with that. Winston wins. You can’t dispute this. And dont try “oh but he plays weak teams.” so did Mariota. So did mostly every QB that ever came out in the draft.
January 29th, 2015 at 10:48 pm
Couch Fan…somehow they will find something silly to dispute it with.
January 29th, 2015 at 10:52 pm
I have to admit it does feel a little creepy being on the same side as Couch Fan after the summer of 2013 and the battles that went back and forth relentlessly for hours over Freeman.
I believed in the a-hole, and Couch tried all summer long to convince me I was wrong. It’s much easier having him on my side now.
January 29th, 2015 at 11:05 pm
“mikeh Says:
January 29th, 2015 at 9:52 pm
who will be the next Russell pryor or freemon. or vick overrated and suck!”
So, Russell, Pryor, Freeman and Vick were the QBs, on the entire planet of bust QBs that most instinctively came to mind for you?
I absolutely hate the race card, but, some of this is so blatant. It’s just laughable.
January 29th, 2015 at 11:09 pm
“I would even prefer an O-Lineman or Cooper before Mariota.”
Couch Fan…I just scrolled up and read this. Okay now we agree on 2 things.
This has GOT to stop!
January 29th, 2015 at 11:15 pm
“87ForJameisNoMariota Says:
January 29th, 2015 at 11:09 pm
“I would even prefer an O-Lineman or Cooper before Mariota.”
Couch Fan…I just scrolled up and read this. Okay now we agree on 2 things.”
If this becomes a thing, then, agreed. But, there’s still so much time.
January 29th, 2015 at 11:16 pm
Its now 10:16 pm…..Do you know where your future QB is?
January 29th, 2015 at 11:18 pm
Where’s lightningbuc? He hasn’t pissed me off in over a month…
I miss him. Must be watching some hockey.
January 29th, 2015 at 11:28 pm
Look at Winstons rap sheet. Accused rape,theft,verbally degrading women, property damage. Hello use your head. can you say dirtbag? You can’t have that as the face of your franchise. Can’t beleive the people that ignore that he couldn’t be any dumber off the field. You can trust someone with no brain. If he was your child he would be an embarrassment. He is not a leader of men. You think David or McCoy will film him with women or shoot windows out with him? It’s not there job to babysit him and they sure the hell will not respect him.
January 29th, 2015 at 11:31 pm
@ Couch
He can throw those early picks and come back against all of those horrible ACC teams. No way he can do that in the NFL.
Winston + NFL Interceptions = 0-16
January 29th, 2015 at 11:36 pm
@ TBBF
Yes, he’s in Eugene, Oregon
January 29th, 2015 at 11:36 pm
Nybucsfan…redundant.
For those of you that went to Pasco County schools.
re·dun·dant
/rəˈdəndənt/ not or no longer needed or useful; superfluous.
I guess he feels if he keeps saying the same thing over and over again they won’t draft Winston, but guess what.
January 29th, 2015 at 11:39 pm
See Couch they totally dismiss what you said about Mariota playing horrible teams too.
Yet they forget Winston beat the Auburn Tigers for the National Championship with seconds remaining on the clock.
January 29th, 2015 at 11:42 pm
@Nybucsfan
On the Buc’s facebook page earlier they posted a picture of Malcomb Glazer sitting in the back of a convertable with Gruden and the Lombardi trophy during the Superbowl celebration parade and I was wondering if this classy man would ever want A Turd like Jameis “The Hunting Ground” Winston as the face of the team he loved and the answer was HELL NO! and neither will his sons
January 29th, 2015 at 11:47 pm
Mr. Patrick…but he had no problem with Michael Pittman beating up his wife.
January 29th, 2015 at 11:52 pm
Of course they will pick Mariota, the Bucs always screw up!
January 29th, 2015 at 11:53 pm
@87
I thought my comments meant nothing to you and you weren’t going to respond to them any more? Let me guess – you missed me, I’m touched 🙂
January 29th, 2015 at 11:55 pm
Glazer had no problem with Blount punching a fan or Aqib Talib’s gun incidents.
Face of the franchise or not. All the Glazers want is to sell tickets. Yet you seem to think that Winston won’t sell any tickets at all. Your sadly mistaken, but oh well someday you’ll see the light. Perhaps midway through next season.
January 29th, 2015 at 11:55 pm
@87
Check your dates
January 29th, 2015 at 11:56 pm
Mr. Patrick…your the only one here at the moment. Touch yourself.
January 29th, 2015 at 11:58 pm
@87
Yep, they do want to sell tickets. That’s why they won’t being in a Turd
January 29th, 2015 at 11:59 pm
They had no problem with Sapp’s drug rumors on draft day….
January 29th, 2015 at 11:59 pm
“Nybucsfan Says:
January 29th, 2015 at 11:28 pm
Look at Winstons rap sheet. Accused rape,theft,verbally degrading women, property damage. Hello use your head. can you say dirtbag? You can’t have that as the face of your franchise. Can’t beleive the people that ignore that he couldn’t be any dumber off the field. You can trust someone with no brain. If he was your child he would be an embarrassment. He is not a leader of men. You think David or McCoy will film him with women or shoot windows out with him? It’s not there job to babysit him and they sure the hell will not respect him.”
I just realized that you live in a van by the river…
January 30th, 2015 at 12:01 am
@87
It’s 11:00. Do you have on your Jameis Winston jammies on yet? You know, the ones with the stripes?
January 30th, 2015 at 12:04 am
Hey the wager is still out there for the taking. All I need is one person to make the bet with me.
I say the Bucs will draft Winston. If I’m right you buy me a Winston jersey.
If they draft Mariota. I buy you a Mariota jersey.
If they trade down….the bet is off and no one wins.
January 30th, 2015 at 12:06 am
ODB…remember the Clemson game @ Clemson in 2013? A star was born.
January 30th, 2015 at 12:10 am
I think Bonzai has given up on JBF and this Winston debate. I applaud him for it.
Poor mikeh is not going to sleep tonight, what with all the nails he’s spitting out of his mouth. mikeh should be more like Bonzai and just surrender.
January 30th, 2015 at 12:29 am
@87
I guess Bonzai is smart enough to know what they say about the man that laughs last
January 30th, 2015 at 12:32 am
@87
Yep, and that Clemson game of 2014 when JaMarcus Winston was suspended for being a Dumbsh$t
January 30th, 2015 at 12:32 am
Good night Joe. Good night ma. Good night Jim Bob. Good night Mary Ellen. Good night JBF. See ya tomorrow for some more anguish.
For those of you that went to Pasco County schools.
an·guish
/aNGɡwiSH/
noun
1.severe mental or physical pain or suffering.
verb
1. be extremely distressed about something.
I’m of course referring to the verb. JBF is one big bowl of anguish and I LOVE it!
Good night!
January 30th, 2015 at 12:33 am
What you suspect would have a lot of players here lol
January 30th, 2015 at 12:50 am
Mariota is not the superior athlete… Not only is Jameis a better QB and thrower of the football, he’s one of the best closers and outfielders in college baseball. He hoses fools at 3rd from right field. I’ll give you this, Mariota will smoke him in the 40, but Winston, as a competitor will smoke him and most any athletic endeavor weather playing NFL QB to ping pong. Mariota is soft… But fast – that’s it.
January 30th, 2015 at 2:01 am
Ryan Leaf + Byron Leftwich + JaMarcus Russell + Vince Young + David Carr = Jameis Winston
January 30th, 2015 at 2:04 am
shut the f**k up you idiot! grow up! talk about over and over your still talking about games this idiot won 2 years ago who gives a rats ass. u friggin homo!
January 30th, 2015 at 2:22 am
@ mr pat don’t forget. this idiot 87 is a college grad from florida state or he attended there anyway. he loves this moron. Winston could be guilty of anything and these people wouldn’t care. oh well! we shall see soon where that pinhead is going. then we will all see just how overrated he is.
January 30th, 2015 at 6:01 am
[…] Mariota Gang erupted in glee yesterday when Adam Schefter became the second BSPNer in recent weeks to knight the Oregon quarterback as the first overall pick in April’s […]
January 30th, 2015 at 12:51 pm
Amazing the diligence in which the same folks can put into making the same arguments about the same thing every single day.
January 30th, 2015 at 10:58 pm
Yes, if you think that is interesting…you should have heard the idiots on the radio trying to convince everyone that Scheffer’s article was a brilliant strategic move by the Glazers/Licht/Lovie/etc., …and PROOF that the REAL target is Jameis Winston…
Apparently, as the story goes, Chip Kelly and the Eagles are so HIP-NO-TIZED by Marcus Mariota, that this brilliant piece of “reporting” by Adam Schefter has them so lathered up – they might actually trade ALL THEIR DRAFT PICKS for Herschel Walker (…er, I mean Marcus Mariota…)!!
…meanwhile, the radio hosts, who obviously know more than Chip Kelly, the Eagles owner & GM, spent several hours congratulating themselves on their good fortune at having participated in pulling the wool over the Eagles and Chip Kelly.
It was like listening to a Nick Saban post-game call-in show… no one has anything memorable to say, but everyone wants to let Nick know he’s THE MAN…
It might just be, that Marcus IS the man…but don’t tell the radio boys, they’ve got a lot riding on it…
February 2nd, 2015 at 9:30 am
[…] Thursday, Adam Schefter of BSPN floated the notion the Bucs were narrowing their quarterback search to Marcus Mariota of Oregon with the No. 1 overall […]