More Support For Rob Chudzinski
January 2nd, 2015
Hiring Rob Chudzinski could signal a Marcus Mariota pick.
Yesterday’s Rose Bowl, in which FSU’s rotten defense couldn’t slow down Oregon and quarterback Marcus Mariota — who would have thunk that? — it seemed to do nothing but reinforce everyone’s pregame opinion of who the Bucs should draft at quarterback.
ESPN’s Pat Yasinskas was intrigued by Mariota prior to the Rose Bowl.
He’s sold on the signal-caller now, and he believes there is one man out there the Bucs must hire who can transform Mariota from a spread-option quarterback to an NFL bullet-thrower.
His name is Rob Chudzinski.
Conventional wisdom says there’s no way conservative Tampa Bay coach Lovie Smith would go with a spread offense. But Smith went 2-14 last season and the offense was dreadful, so conventional wisdom goes out the window.
Why not bring in an offensive coordinator like Rob Chudzinski? He had a lot of success running the spread offense with Carolina and Cam Newton.
Who says the Bucs have to make Mariota fit in their system? If they build a system to take advantage of Mariota’s strengths, they might end up with the first true franchise quarterback in team history.
While Joe has never stated Mariota cannot succeed in the NFL, there is no question there would be a learning curve for him, more so than Winston who already plays in a pro-style offense — and excels in it.
If the Bucs do draft Mariota, then the very best thing for him and the Bucs is that he sits the season and learns from the sidelines. Pull an Aaron Rodgers on him.
No way should be be thrown into the fire until he proves to coaches he can manage an NFL offense without hiccups.
If the Bucs do pull in Chudzinski and run a form of the spread, as Cam Newton has demonstrated over the past few years, Mariota is going to get beat up.
January 2nd, 2015 at 12:46 pm
This makes to much that’s sense so I can’t see Lovie doing it. Put me firmly in the Marcus Mariota camp!
January 2nd, 2015 at 12:49 pm
After all the off the field stuff and yesterday’s exchange with the head coach just say no to Winston. He can pound sand.
January 2nd, 2015 at 12:49 pm
He watched the game, damn? Didn’t think Yasinskas worked weekends and holidays.
January 2nd, 2015 at 12:54 pm
Winston already said “Im just looking forward to baseball”. listening to Jason Licht on bucs total access he says his type of players are kids who eat, sleep and breathe football. who wouldn’t be anything without football. Just reading between the lines there, idk if its gonna be winston. I really hope the bucs aren’t influenced by the media. But winston hasn’t even declared. And how FSU got destroyed yesterday, idk if winston declares. He’s that type of competitor. But either or, mariota or winston, there both starting from day 1. Idc what OC it is, what scheme it is, its irrelevant. If love pulls the trigger on a QB with the 1st overall pick, he is starting. Aaron rodgers went what 18th? which is understandable. Lovie for all he knows could have 1 more year left with the bucs if it goes anything like this season.
January 2nd, 2015 at 12:55 pm
Mariota’s ability to run might enable him to survive behind the Bucs offensive offensive line.
For the sake of the Bucs and of the 2 young QBs I hope Bucs Trade back!
January 2nd, 2015 at 12:59 pm
The Bucs will take Mariota not because of L or L…but because Father Duingy has the G’Boyz ear….Tony got to see plenty of Mariota up close and personal while his son Eric played for the Ducks
January 2nd, 2015 at 12:59 pm
Conventional wisdom says Dungy Lite is here for another 361 days.
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:00 pm
Glad to see this article recognized it is the most sensible one out there on the topic Mariota should be ready to start by midseason and I can’t wait to see him play for Bucs finally a franchise QB Winston will be lucky to get to draft not in jail
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:02 pm
For me last night just cemented my previous opinion of not picking either of these guys. Neither one of em are ready right now and we have too many other holes to waste a No. 1 overall to a guy that has to sit on the bench.
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:02 pm
This would make sense so lovie smith won’t hire this guy
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:05 pm
Mariota appears to have the talent to play in any type of offense…..as long as it’s an offense that protects the QB
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:05 pm
I love the idea of hiring Chudzinski regardless of who we take.
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:05 pm
@joe who has come out of this pro system lately and been good. All I have seen of late is bust.
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:06 pm
Well it seems the bucs are allergic to slant routes so that’s a little bit of a shock tip the systemto add a more west coast style.but go for it!
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:07 pm
Uhh…Joe, you need to take off your Garnet & Gold glasses…you’re gonna may step in from of a bus with the clarity those things are giving you…
You can blame the FSU defense…but the turnovers I watched Jameis make were embarrassing…and those turnovers and stubborn refusal to play within the offense he’s supposedly ‘mastered’ cause this loss…not the FSU defense. The lack of discipline by the UNQUESTIONED leader of the Seminole offense is what cost FSU the Rose Bowl. If big time players step up in big time situations…what happened yesterday is a pretender got exposed by a smart fast defense that took away Jameis Winston’s favorite escape routes. The Ducks knew Winston’s tendencies to NOT play within the system, they also knew Jameis’ preferred tendencies when he went outside the offense…and it wasn’t hard to create scenarios that baited him into doing exactly what they knew he would do.
That’s what Jimbo Fisher knows – and that’s why he threatened to bench him for NOT playing within the offense…before benching him for poor performance (which is to say: Fisher had to carry through on his threat, reluctantly).
I’m sorry, but the best QB on the field yesterday was Marcus Mariota…not because he threw 40 and 50 yard bombs…but because he didn’t have to do more than simply take the field position that Jameis Winston threw away…literally.
The kid (Jameis) needs to go BACK to school next year and learn to play in the offense and take coaching. If he decides that would be too much for his ego to take – then he’ll find out the hard way what happens when you declare for the draft and you’re the only one who DOESN’T realize you’re NOT ready for Prime Time.
Will Mariota have a learning curve? Absolutely, like Arron Rodgers did coming out of Jeff Tedfords college program. Took him a couple extra years playing behind a legend…probably won’t take that long in Tampa…we don’t have any legends standing in the way.
If it’s Chudzinski…may take Marcus Mariota even LESS time to adjust.
We’ll know more when ‘The Ducks & The Bucks’ mix it up NEXT week!
So far, it’s Mariota by a landslide.
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:07 pm
Mariota could/should be able to run a combination offense involving 49ers/Seahawks/Packers (WR screens & quick passes to Charles Sims and WR ala Rodgers to Cobb and Nelson) and some ingredients of the deep throws Newton does in Carolina. No Redskins and no RGIII stuff.
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:13 pm
Lovie Smith = OC Killah
Everyone around the league knows that.
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:16 pm
You call 17 picks excelling. He has too much baggage for a 1st round pick.
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:16 pm
The Packers had the luxury of sitting Rodgers because they still had Brett Favre. We do not have Brett Favre. We aren’t sitting Mariota for a year.
Mariota has the overall intelligence and skills to learn a pro-style offense in the off-season. He’s already working on it. The question isn’t how long it will take him to LEARN a pro-style offense, but how long it will take him to MASTER it. The sooner he plays, the better.
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:17 pm
Joe doesn’t give a damn where a kid went to school. For the record, Joe is a fan of Eastern Illinois and they currently don’t have a quarterback worthy of an NFL practice squad.
Joe wants the best player at said position for the Bucs to draft.
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:26 pm
White Tiger, the turnovers? The Int was off the receivers hand and the McCown like fumble was on a 4th&5 down 19 late in the third. They were in field goal range and had Cook not wet the bed with the two previous fumbled the would have kicked a FG on that play. It’s going to be hilarious when the Bucs draft Winston…
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:28 pm
I think Jameis Winston would be better suited with Chudzinski on board. Winston is a Cam Newton clone and we all know how he turned out with help from Rob.
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:31 pm
“Marriota is going to get beat up” – my thoughts exactly.
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:38 pm
No, Lovie’s not an OC Killa. The knock is, prior to his stint with Chicago, he didn’t think offense was all that important.
Lovie, like his mentor, Tony Dungy, came to realize that without an offense, you’re just an unemployed, former head coach (ask Dungy about that).
The problem the Bucs had THIS year is the guy who shopped for the groceries, had a heart trouble and decided not to coach, about a week before the season. The ONLY guy left was a QB coach who had never called plays before.
But don’t worry…the guy who did us in – is feeling good now and has decided to be a head coach in Canada.
The idea that Lovie WANTS a decent offense – and the fact that Marcus Mariota will be the QB – will attract all sorts of interesting OC candidates.
Do you think Mularkey wanted to remain a TE coach…or do you think he would have JUMPED at the chance to interview for the Buccaneers OC job?
If your answer is anything but “Sure he’d want to interview”…don’t bother answering. I just don’t have the amount of time it would take to explain it to you.
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:42 pm
It’s funny how the talking heads just read statlines and are quick to opine that Mariota had a big day. Well, i, just like most the fans here at JBF saw a completely different story. Mariota, for whatever reason, be it nerves or lack of capabilities missed not just a lot but MOST tight window throws. He also had 2-3 more passes that could have easily been picked off. 90% of Mariotas yards were either dink and dunk screen passes or yielded after FSUs defense caved in.
Winston, on the other hand, made mostvof his yards on tight window throws and showed great leadership consoling Cook and talking to the offense trying to keep them in the game.
Winston was upset with Fisher bc Fisher called his worst game of the year. Winston knows how to attack a defense and he realized early on that they were being too.conservative against Oregon’s d. Oregon was jumping all over the first cuts in routes and were susceptible to double moves and longer route combinations but Fisher continued to call short route combinations. If Greene catches that ball before the half and Aguayomakes that FG, its a different game. That was a horrendous pass by Mariota. Aguayo missed the field goal and no harm no foul.
Also, if you noticed Winston was the last FSU player to leave the field. He stood out there like a man and shook their hands like a man. He did itvwith class. To me, that shows he has matured immensely.
The memeworthy fumble return Winston gave up was him panicking. He is always poised in the pocket but that one play was sort of a crack bursting open in the ship. He was always the one patching up that crack and he was of course going to be there when it finally burst open. The game was firmly out of reach at that point, that was hardly Winston cracking under pressure.
To sum it up, Winstons stock rose after this game not only because he showed great sportsmanship but mostly because his team was outcoached and yet he STILL had the better day at his position.
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:44 pm
@ Joe
We should absolutely pick Mariota and make him the starter from Day 1. Any of our QB’s are going to have a new offense to learn and Mariota seems to be as mentally capable as anyone. Also, I predict an 80-20 vote in the Mariota/Winston poll in favor of Mariota. (Just like I predicted a 20+ point victory by Oregon a few days ago)
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:48 pm
So, based on playing one of the worst FSU defenses in years, you have come to the conclusion that Mariota not only is capable of flipping from a spread option to an NFL offense, you’ve also completed a psychological profile of him? Interesting.
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:53 pm
Lol, Joe. No, I used the force. My intuition guided to me to conclusion. (And all the available data on Mariota)
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:54 pm
@Matt
What game were you watching?
Sportmanship? Yea I suppose getting in your coach’s face after a Josh McClown fumble is sportsmanlike. I’m fine with Winston but DAMN, some of these excuses….
Winston just had a bad day, accept it and move on.
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:56 pm
Did y’all see that poster that read “Win or Lose… Someone is Buc’d” Ouch the truth can hurt bad. This offensive coordinator hire is an iinflection point for this franchise. If we make the right hire, we will have a floor of 9 wins/yr, if we hire the wrong guy who can’t develop our rookie QB we will get caught in the same whirpool as Oakland has been for the next 5 years and have a ceiling of 6 wins/yr. We are getting a qB in the first 3 rounds, no doubt.
If Winston somehow goes back to Fsu for another year and Mariota declares, the pricetag for the #1 pick will skyrocket. To me, that is the best case scenario. We need to do eeverything we can to gather extra picks for next year’sdraft. Next years draft is going to be one of the best drafts ever, iit’s especially strong at offensive tackle.
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:58 pm
@Joe
If you DON’T think Jameis Winston did an open book Pshych examination – and failed…I’d LOVE to take your money on draft day.
I got Mariota going before Jameis Winston – straight up.
Mariota will also be the more successful NFL QB…
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:58 pm
@ Joe was Oregons D ranked that much better than FSU because Winston had a few throws he also looked like a fool
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:58 pm
Rodgers had a guy in front of him named Brett Farve, there was no way Rodgers was taking his job his rookie year. They could afford to sit him. Lovie simply can’t afford to pick a QB and let him sit for a few years. Another 2-14 season with McCown will get him fired.
January 2nd, 2015 at 1:59 pm
Better stats look at completion ratio that’s important. I wud take either one for this team but mariota has the edge. He is not one read QB LIKE VINCE YOUNG. Jamies had as much bad passes and made more bonehead plays sometime mccownish.
Jamies doesn’t seem like he wants to come out and question his commitment to being a one sport guy. He is not a great player in football like Bo and Deon were
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:00 pm
@ Matt. Agree. ….early in the third quarter the camera showed Fisher’s face. That was the face of a man who was being out-coached. Fisher looked worried, and on his heels. Winston kept fighting. One thing is for certain that Oregon Defense lit up FSU . Those are the guys that WON the game, not check down Mariota.
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:01 pm
If the Bucs do draft Mariota, then the very best thing for him and the Bucs is that he sits the season and learns from the sidelines.
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This is laughable, in todays NFL, HC’s aren’t given the luxury to sit 1st round QB’s, especially the first pick in the entire draft. Regimes can be here today, and gone tomorrow. Then the next regime comes in that has no allegiance with the rookie QB and don’t feel they can trust him to protect their jobs because he never was their guy in the first place. All consensus #1 picks will never sit for a year, and I’ll put $500 bucks on it with Joe.
What I find amusing is that by Joe saying this, in essence, says that if we select Winston, he could start on opening day? Just the other day you wrote, then argued with me, why Winston could sit and learn. So really, what does Joe think of Mariota? Is he a stud or what? You know it’s not to late to make the switch and give Mariota top billing. Why always back the controversial player, unless (nevermind)? You are constantly beating the drum trying to convince and convert fans to see it your stubborn way.
Joe says,
So, based on playing one of the worst FSU defenses in years
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another laughable statement, so even with FSU’s crappy defense they were able to go 29-0? What does that say about the level of competition Winston played against? Oh, they just played crappy against Oregon. smh
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:01 pm
I want a qB who challenges me, who wants to win, who hates losing. Fisher called a horrible game and someone needed to get in his face. Jimbo always steamrolls reporters when they ask him question and so you can only imaimaginehow he is aS a coach. Yes Winston didn’thave his best game but he did show me he has the iintangibles to succeed in the NFL.
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:02 pm
Jameis medical issues….his vison/squinting…is an unadressed concern…needs surgery but won’t get it…needs to wear contacts but won’t wear them….
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:04 pm
I hope whoever this “Joe” person that is commenting, is not the same as JoeBuc cause I respect JoeBuc and what he does but this “Joe” guy who is trolling and standing up for Joe is a complete ass and makes no sense.
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:06 pm
If Lovie drafts Mariota and starts him right away, Mariota will be ruined behind that line. If Lovie drafts Mariota and sits him, it means more McCown, which probably gets him fired. Quite the conundrum.
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:11 pm
your not a franchise quarterback if you have to make a scheme to fit the quarterback….lol go sign tim tebow for the league minimum. both of them are only #1 picks for a team desperate because they have josh mccown as a starter and glennon as a backup. I think glennon is garbage but if rob Chudzinski could do that for a rookie like mariotta couldn’t he do the same for glennon? if mariotta is the pick i’d rather trade down and go get more picks
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:11 pm
Every team has spread formations in the playbooks and the Eagles run the spread as their base formation. The spread offense is a pro-style offense too. Winston looks like Josh Freeman the 2nd coming…
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:12 pm
Not only is Mariota going to get beat up. So are the YUCS….. AGAIN!
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:13 pm
Funny how all the Jameis honks, Joe included, keep referring to the poor FSU defense. Newsflash – the Oregon defense is not that great either.
JoeNolesJameisExcusesFan.com
Dude, the Noles defense has nothing to do with Winston as an NFL prospect. What are you talking about? –Joe
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:15 pm
dungy is begging lovie to take mariotta because the franchise is probably leaning towards Winston and now that blount and talib are out of tampa I think the only person on this team winston has to worry about is getting in akeem spence suv. once he gets his millions he can go buy a crabshack
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:20 pm
Jameis Winston =’s
Mike Williams
Talib
Blount
Barrett Robbins
on
and on
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:20 pm
Winston is more pro-ready.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24929951/nfl-draft-mariota-not-as-good-winston-not-as-bad-as-you-think
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:23 pm
No Means No!
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:28 pm
This is getting very old and boring. As in many contentious topics, positions hardened and perceptions are a product of already existing beliefs. very few of us can approach this topic objectively. The only “objective” data from yesterday is that Oregon won and Florida State lost. Neither quarterback played their best game. So what? We have to trust that the scouts and guys who look at the whole body of work will do their job. Both of these guys are supremely talented. neither is a guarantee to become an elite quarterback. There is no such thing. Andrew Luck is the only quarterback drafted in the last five years who has excelled and he’s been fortunate to play in a weak division while he learned. Personally–and honestly–if I’m a GM or coach, I’m not taking a player with as many character question marks as Winston–at least not as the first pick in the draft. When all is said and done, Winston is unlikely to be taken as a top five pick. You can read what you want to into his sideline behavior, but it would be unlikely that any NFL coach would have the patience to put up with Winston’s “competitiveness” (and lip) on the sidelines. Nor would his teammates.
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:28 pm
Dude, the Noles defense has nothing to do with Winston as an NFL prospect. What are you talking about?
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Sure it does! If FSU’s defense is as crappy as you say it is, then Winston’s number are inflated because of the level of competition he played against. That only means that the 26-0 record was played against inferior opponents if they couldn’t take advantage of (your words) “the worst FSU defenses in years.”
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:29 pm
Oh, and by “excelled,” I mean carried his team to the playoffs. Don’t tell me that Cam has or Stafford, etc.
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:31 pm
The Vinny Testaverde experience was enough of that. Put Mariota in from day one.
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:34 pm
Joe, I think what lightningbucfan is saying is that if you are disparaging Mariota’s good night because it was against a crappy FSU defense, you should also discount Winston’s performance last night for playing a crappy Oregon defense. (I don’t know college football to know if that’s true, but that’s what the commenter meant.)
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:37 pm
Not even close. That thought never entered Joe’s mind. Of course Mariota had a nice game. As Joe has repeatedly typed, one game is just a piece of the overall puzzle and unless Joe was seeing things, Mariota was still running a spread-option offense yesterday, no?
Hell, good teams are supposed to take advantage of mismatches, aren’t they? How is that disparaging a kid?
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:41 pm
Joe, I saw in another thread recently you wondered why some of us were “jizzing in our pants” for Mariota, when NFL “experts” say Winston is the pick. Yet earlier this week you ran an article that Peter King talked to 5 GM’s (whom I assume are smarter than the “experts”, since they are actually employed by a team) and ALL FIVE said they’d take MM over Winston.
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:44 pm
Joe and Daniel Synder seem to have alot in common
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:53 pm
With even improvements in our OL, it is not going to be pretty for the QB, but he will have VJax, ME13, hopefully a well and able ASJ, plus our stable of RBs. Winston had all day to pass and hung on to the ball too long.
Mariota did not have all day to pass and had a quick release sometimes too quick. I would pick Mariota in a heartbeat over Winston for all the issues including what is between the headsets on each.
January 2nd, 2015 at 2:56 pm
Yikes! The day after the Winston bandwagon grew dimmer.
January 2nd, 2015 at 3:31 pm
Makes too much sense for lovie
January 2nd, 2015 at 3:52 pm
Winston played 2 very good defenses this year in Louisville and Florida and threw 7 picks. Last night he fumbled 3 times losing a hilarious 1, and could of easily thrown 2-3 more picks. Remember the end zone throw that went right through the Oregon db’s hands? Oregon’s defense isn’t great it’s opportunistic at best. Winston hit wide open guys as well.
If Mariota is captain check down what is Tom Brady and that offense? The Bucs situation shouldn’t have anything to do with whom you root for in college. I know a number of diehard FSU grads and Bucs fans that wouldn’t want to draft him because they don’t trust him. He had a poor year compared to last year, his oline is fantastic and so was the running game. That oline will have 4 new starters on it as well next year, he’s gone.
January 2nd, 2015 at 4:17 pm
Here’s one of my big concerns about Winston, he’s gonna balloon, I mean like a freaking beach ball, you can see it already, he’s gonna have a weight problem, and I don’t think he’s disciplined enough to control it, he’s easily 240 already, he’s JaMarcus Russell 2.0 and I don’t want to watch that every Sunday….
January 2nd, 2015 at 4:37 pm
I agree with Pat Y. Hire Chud, draft MM and a bunch of young O-Linemen and let Lovie fine tune the “D”. Hell, we could even trade MG8 (and I’m still one of his biggest supporters…but we could probably get another 3rd round pick for him!) and keep McCown to mentor Mariota as the starter. I think this makes a lot of sense and it could turn the Bucs fortunes around faster than any of us could have believed podssible!
January 2nd, 2015 at 4:42 pm
You guys want the “Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dweller” as Bucs OC?
Seriously though: Better than Roman but not as good as Trestman.
January 2nd, 2015 at 5:47 pm
17 interceptions is not excelling in a pro style offense.
January 2nd, 2015 at 6:45 pm
“…manage an NFL offense without hiccups.”
Insert joke here…Josh McCown took a timeout before the first play of the second half in the last game. But, I do agree with your point.
January 2nd, 2015 at 6:53 pm
Funny how Jason licht said one thing he would be looking at was the way they act on the sidelines.
And not one of the experts on these terrible local radio programs even mentioned how cry baby almost got benched for boo hooing
Arguing on tv with the coach and not one person on the radio brought it up.
“Jameis if you don’t get out of my face your going to the bench”
And no mention of it by the winston blowers on the radio.
And even said winston didn’t hurt his stock. Lol idiooooooot.
You can tell a lot in a loss and winston was acting like a cry baby.
If he will argue with fisher like that he will argue with lovie.
NO THANKS
January 2nd, 2015 at 6:54 pm
But he doesn’t — and never has — with Mike Martin.
Maybe he knows he can get away with it from Fisher but an old school guy like Martin would run him?
January 2nd, 2015 at 7:09 pm
@ joe
You may be right.
But for me, in my opinion, it sure looked bad on the sidelines.
You could say this is the first real adversity he has had. Obviously because he lost. Found a way to win the other games. But sure looks like he didn’t handle it very well. How will he handle losing with the bucs. Say 3 or 4 in a row?
That may be a sneak peek into the way he is when things don’t go his way? Arguing with the head coach. Just doesn’t sit well when you see a potential number 1 pick acting like that. Swallow it don’t make a scene.
January 2nd, 2015 at 8:01 pm
He should argue with Lovie. He should pick up Lovie and body slam him onto the turf. “We didn’t want to score points before the half”. Yea he said that.
January 2nd, 2015 at 8:10 pm
Joe is REACHING on the sitting
January 2nd, 2015 at 9:03 pm
The great tragedy for the Bucs is that they’ve ended up with the 1st overall pick in a year where both top qb prospects are questionable. I find it hard to get excited about either of these guys.
January 2nd, 2015 at 9:31 pm
Db55
Shut up you hater. Just hate anything and everything.
You would hate no matter who they hired or fired or whatever.
Just a hater.
Go be a pats fan loser
January 2nd, 2015 at 9:32 pm
Probably an FSU fan?
Figures.
January 2nd, 2015 at 11:23 pm
Well said Kevin, the “fire everyone” mentality has gotten this team nowhere. Ever since Chucky got run out of town. I want this staff to get at least 3 full years to build a team before I start calling for heads. Yes, this year was painful but it’ll be better next season, and maybe if we show a little damn patience with the coaches we can keep improving every year.
Take a look at the playoffs and all the long term coaches, Lewis, Harbaugh, Belichick, Tomlin, Fox, McCarthy, Carroll, Garrett. Pagano is fairly new but he has Luck. Caldwell inherited a hell of a team. Arians is a miracle worker and Rivera got lucky. It pays to have some consistency for an extended period, seems a lot of the posters here can’t grasp that concept.
January 3rd, 2015 at 12:13 am
Chud is a dud…not no but hell no!!!
January 3rd, 2015 at 1:06 am
The only thing Winston excells at is throwing 18 interceptions a season