Donovan McNabb Says Winston Is No. 1 & Lovie Won’t Be Swayed
January 8th, 2015
Add Donovan McNabb to the Jameis Winston bandwagon.
The former Eagles star quarterback believes Winston unquestionably will be the best QB available in the 2015 NFL Draft.
For those who have lost track of the former Bucs killer, McNabb is a full time host on NBC Sports Radio. He teams with another former QB, Mark Malone on the Under Center show.
Yesterday, McNabb chimed in on the air and said he believes Winston “is the most pro-ready at this point, when it comes to a pro-style offense.”
McNabb named Lovie Smith and said he is confident Lovie will not be swayed by all the negativity surrounding Winston.
“They’ll do their due diligence and not focus on what everyone else is saying. They’ll get to know the player, know the guy they’re going to bring in,” McNabb said.
It wouldn’t surprise Joe if Lovie and/or Team Glazer is scared off by Winston’s off-field baggage. But Joe agrees with McNabb, Joe believes the Bucs only will be influenced by their own research into the Florida State star.
January 8th, 2015 at 12:09 pm
Welp Joe I really do think the Bucs ARE going to draft him.
IMO I’d put it at a 70% shot right now that the Bucs draft him.
Noles-Bucs fans will be standing by with their credit cards on draft day waiting to hear that name called. Me included.
Hey Glazers you want my credit card number for the next 10 years? Draft Winston.
January 8th, 2015 at 12:09 pm
Trade out from #1 for a haul of picks and we can still trade back into the top 10 to pick up Winston.
January 8th, 2015 at 12:14 pm
Joe I have heard others say it, teams will try and crap on Winston to drive t stock down, or to make sure he does not end up with a team in their division. I totally agree, I can see the Falcons or Saints telling others that he is no good etc. Licht and the Glaziers MUST do their own work on him and do what’s right for the team and the fan base.
January 8th, 2015 at 12:14 pm
Bribe Trestman – Draft Winston
MakeLovieNotWar — no way Winston falls. Its not going to happen.
January 8th, 2015 at 12:14 pm
Winston will be a top 5 pick…PERIOD!
January 8th, 2015 at 12:14 pm
I like Donovan, he threw that interception to Ronde for a pick six and sent us to the SB, That was the eagles last game in that stadium.. Loved it..
January 8th, 2015 at 12:15 pm
A question for Joe and all the Jameis lovers.
If we draft Marcus and he fails there will be tons of I told you so, unless of course Jameis also failed.
If Jameis fails because of off the field crap or tons of interceptions and poor decision making it won’t matter if Mariota makes it somewhere else because all the Jameis supporters will be f her in p and hearing about it big time.
Again! ANY first round QB pick is a gamble. BOTH of these QB’s project as having a great shot at making it. Why would you take one with all this baggage? Do you all really believe he’s the next Andrew Luck?
IF he can’t carry this team totally by himself then he’s a bad investment. Because if the team is good and Lovie builds his defense then either of these two should be competent enough to do the job.
IF either can do the job why would you want the cretin who is so disrespectful of women that he picks up a strange chick and has his buds video tape it. I can get past that if that was the end of the story.
I can easily get past the crab legs because I accept the story that Publix Tallahassee managers are groupies for FSU athletes and normally gave the crab legs away.
I can easily get past the bb gun because kids will be kids.
But the screaming of the obscenity not only reflects mind boggling lack of judgement considering the context, timing and what he said.
What he did with his buds behind closed doors with a consenting woman is perhaps his business if lacking in good judgement and taste.
Screaming THAT particular obscenity in front of young 19-20 year old girls is simply unacceptable for me. He not only told anybody who took the original charges seriously to go f themselves he made a clear statement that he is bigger than FSU or any societal need to observe certain manners.
This is why I rarely go to Bucs games anymore. I recall leaving one game with the young, testosterone aholes screaming obscenities much like Jameis.
When a man with two young boys 8-9 objected they told him to f himself and challenged him to fight.
And so if a young man was in that room with his girlfriend and he had to listen to Jameis mouth what was his recourse. Challenge a 6-5 230 lb athlete?
Again Jameis lovers I could get past it all until he screamed the obscenity. And if screaming that obscenity was the only thing he did it would be a deal breaker for me. But the timing…during the midst of a serious investigation to sexual charges…is just too much.
January 8th, 2015 at 12:17 pm
Edit; the obscenity would NOT be a deal breaker for me if it was the only offense and if it wasn’t for the timing and attitude behind it.
January 8th, 2015 at 12:24 pm
@stpetebucs
then you have never been to a unversity in the last 30 years, Frat hazing has way worst stuff then that. You should also unplug your computer from the intenet , you will be offended as well. Also you should not listen to some radio stations as that will offend you.
January 8th, 2015 at 12:27 pm
I don’t care what McNabb thinks.
He’s still an Eagle.
January 8th, 2015 at 12:28 pm
My question is where does the Glazer family stand on the issue ? Do they want the circus coming to Tampa from Tallahassee ?
January 8th, 2015 at 12:29 pm
This guy is the best QB prospect since Luck . They better draft him!
January 8th, 2015 at 12:30 pm
Shaun King called The Sports Page this morning and pretty much said the Bucs will take Jameis Winston. I thought his remarks and assessment of Winston was spot on.
January 8th, 2015 at 12:31 pm
IF THEY DRAFT WINSTON , I WILL NEVER EVER WATCH THE BUC’S AGAIN…….
January 8th, 2015 at 12:33 pm
HE IS ANOTHER JOSH FREEMAN……
January 8th, 2015 at 12:34 pm
I think the more nfl scouts and gm’s break down the college tape they will see Winston as a more polished NFL quarterback forget Heisman that’s childs play…I watched fl state Oregon game viewing both of these guys as if they were playing in the nfl, mariotta looked like a college quarterback, Winston was playing pro style offense so he looked like the more nfl ready qb….the only thing that scared me is his tourettes syndrome, he less of a development time as far as skills but long way to go before he understands what it’s like to act like an adult, that being said im on the Winston bandwagon…take that mike glennon
January 8th, 2015 at 12:35 pm
It’s that time of the year that everyone is coming out of the wood work guessing or speculating what the teams should, could or might do.
Between now and the draft……ranking of the players change, some go up, and others go down in value..
Ever year the experts make up lists, and change them weekly, but in the end, few come close even getting the top 10 correct.
Here we go guessing again………. Only the GM and coach knows what they might do.
January 8th, 2015 at 12:37 pm
Scott Says:
January 8th, 2015 at 12:29 pm
This guy is the best QB prospect since Luck . They better draft him!
Are you speaking of Andrew Luck or his dad Oliver Luck?
January 8th, 2015 at 12:37 pm
CAN’T FIX IT ….what makes him another Josh Freeman?
January 8th, 2015 at 12:40 pm
@Realist…I concur….he better stay away from major college campuses if that’s bothering him so much.
January 8th, 2015 at 12:42 pm
Ok guys it’s all about him having sex with a white girl, you know it is. If he had allegedly raped a Black woman you wouldn’t be upset at all….look deep inside your bigoted soul and admit it.
In THIS AGE of social media, and up to the second news updates, and digital media of all types, things cannot be hidden and it ALL gets out. Plenty of past college students from (Jim McMahon breaking the BYU honor coded daily, to the 2006-2010 Florida gators running a muck in Gainesville, they did I know the players ) have done “bad” things.
So if you think a “read option” QB can actually learn how to play in a pro-style NFL offense, ZERO HAVE SO FAR, than draft the character guy “Allegedly” (plenty of pastors and community leaders who are were deemed upstanding have fallen also) and see him fail, he will.
January 8th, 2015 at 12:46 pm
I love the “character matters” people, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE REALLY LIKE…..some of your past Bucs who are great character guys were alleged to visit professional girls, they kept their business private you dont know about it, so you think they are great guys. Only when it gets out, like it ALL does today, that the moral police, who don’t apply their own standards to themselves, go to church and watch porn on their computer, you know you do…..scream the loudest. Silliness, I don’t give two ships what they do, can they play ball.
January 8th, 2015 at 12:46 pm
I cannot believe the support for Winston over Marcus, is it because he is from FSU ? I like most people here have been involved with football for 40 yrs. Marcus to me looks like a more athletic Russell Wilson clearly the best choice .
January 8th, 2015 at 12:48 pm
Buc1987 Says:
January 8th, 2015 at 12:37 pm
CAN’T FIX IT ….what makes him another Josh Freeman?
what made mike glennon any better than josh freeman because it surely wasn’t the stats. josh freeman was always inaccurate in college and that was the knock on him, josh freeman never won a Heisman or was considered to be a top 10 draft pick….probably not even a first round pick. what makes him better than josh freeman? my guess would be EVERYTHING
January 8th, 2015 at 12:48 pm
For everyone that thinks he’s another Josh Freeman go back and do your research and watch college film on Freeman and then see if you still feel that way.
January 8th, 2015 at 12:50 pm
Scott Says
“This guy is the best QB prospect since Luck .”
Nowhere even close.
January 8th, 2015 at 12:50 pm
If the Bucs pass on Winston and he becomes a star, every member of the Bucs staff will have that huge miss on their resumes. His onfield skill and potential is undeniable. If Winston can convince the Bucs that he is maturing and ready to be the guy, there is no way the Bucs can afford to pass on him.
January 8th, 2015 at 12:52 pm
He’s not Freeman, but he will still be a bust.
January 8th, 2015 at 12:52 pm
WOW, Donovan McNabb he’s a real prize on talent.
January 8th, 2015 at 12:53 pm
Lovie says: Winston I want to draft you but you can not cuss..
Winston says: OK from now on I will yell Make love to her in the crotch..
Soggy says: Just some humor folks, easy does it.. Think some mellow thoughts..lol
January 8th, 2015 at 12:54 pm
Jameis is also the most courtroom ready QB….
January 8th, 2015 at 12:57 pm
Brandon — Every Member of the Bucs staff already have HUGE misses on their resumes. Lovie has killed oc careers like a serial killer takes out victims, team (staff) whiffed bad on free agency, missed on several in house player evaluations, bad trade with new England… How many more “Huge Misses” must we tolerate. Now we are going to have to settle for the 3rd or 4th or 8th choice in offensive coordinators because the facts don’t lie when it comes to history of lovie and offenses. No one credible wants to work for this clown. All this does is perpetuate mediocrity which I know is quit an improvement over 2-14 or 4-12 but standards need to be raised and goals need to be achieved. 13 years since a playoff win.
January 8th, 2015 at 1:03 pm
McNabb judged Owens as a good addition to the team.
McNabb judged Vick a good addition (took his job)
McNabb judges the Bucs will take Winston. . .
At least we know what the low IQ people are thinking.
January 8th, 2015 at 1:04 pm
tmaxcon Says:
January 8th, 2015 at 12:57 pm
Brandon — Every Member of the Bucs staff already have HUGE misses on their resumes. Lovie has killed oc careers like a serial killer takes out victims, team (staff) whiffed bad on free agency, missed on several in house player evaluations, bad trade with new England… How many more “Huge Misses” must we tolerate. Now we are going to have to settle for the 3rd or 4th or 8th choice in offensive coordinators because the facts don’t lie when it comes to history of lovie and offenses. No one credible wants to work for this clown. All this does is perpetuate mediocrity which I know is quit an improvement over 2-14 or 4-12 but standards need to be raised and goals need to be achieved. 13 years since a playoff win.
January 8th, 2015 at 1:05 pm
you can’t fix stupid folks.
this guy is a bust waiting to happen based on all the off field BS.
he’s looking to cash in quick so he has money to pay his lawyers and baby mommas
January 8th, 2015 at 1:11 pm
Buc fans are so afraid to take a chance on greatness. Come up with any and all excuses to not wager on premium QB talent. I think it is in part due to being beat down by mediocrity for so long, especially at the QB position, as if they aren’t good enough. These sackless and sad fanboys won’t take a risk unless they are the next Manning or Luck. We can be great with Winston!
January 8th, 2015 at 1:12 pm
LOL hilarious…..sounds like some of you need to prepare yourselves for IF we draft Winston, you’d still hate even if we were winning and what bucs fan think we could win games right? angry at lovie, angry at licht just angry bucs fans need to chill….he’s no Andrew luck that’s obvious but as long as he’s not mark sanchez or even ryan tannehill or andy Dalton then I would be pissed. just whoever we draft I want their name to be associated with the bucs turning the franchise around and winning for a change because of a quarterback and that’s all I hope for. lovie go get someone who knows offense so you can stay the hell out of the way and help frazier coach defense please
January 8th, 2015 at 1:14 pm
I am so overly tired of the only thing people can bring up is the character issue! Not one and I mean not one real negative thing to say about his performances as a QB! Player for Player Winston is the better QB (on the field) Hands down. Why take a project who people hope he will learn how to play pro style and become a good QB versus a plug and play QB like Winston?Are you that willing to let McCown get back on the field and lead the Bucs again while Mariota learns the game? What makes you so sure Mariota will actually be successful?
My point being is every year there are bad boys and good boys. Once in the NFL with millions of dollars things can go either way. I’ve seen perfect angels come out of the draft only to turn into criminals once in the league. I’ve seen (labeled) bad boys come into the league and keep their nose clean IE Warren Sapp, Randy Moss, Tyranne Mathieu, Dez Bryant just to name a few. The whole allegation of sex crime thing. I sum it up like this (ironically) Big Ben was accused of the exact same thing 2x for that matter. You don’t see Pittsburg running him out of town. Big time star athletes deal with these type of accusation all the time. You don’t for one second believe maybe just maybe she exaggerated the story a little bit because maybe they had differences afterwards? Just saying, It could happen and does all the time to high profiled people!
Is this the SOUL reason you are going to pass on a potential franchise QB who can turn your entire organization around? Don’t be foolish and let petty emotions get in the way of judging a business decision. Winning is what pays in the NFL. WHO GIVES YOU THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN AND WIN NOW?
January 8th, 2015 at 1:19 pm
No way that the Glazer family and Lovie take Jameis. If this were a different team then he would likely go number 1, but it isn’t.
Coach Schiano said that one of the highest ranked tasks presented to him by the Glazer family was to get rid of the riff raff; thus Legarrette Blount, Brian Price, Kellen Winslow, Aquib Talib, Tanard Jackson, etc. Even if Jameis has the upside on the field, I don’t see him getting drafted by our ownership and coach.
Lovie has made it clear that he plays the media game with the NFL Draft, which is why so many thought we would take a QB in 2014 and he talked so highly of Johnny Football. Turns out he was never going to draft QB and Mike Glennon was still in the mix at the time.
Sorry Winston fans, he will get drafted high but not by this team.
January 8th, 2015 at 1:19 pm
Ok guys it’s all about him having sex with a white girl,
Wow just wow. We have to bring race into it not matter what eh?
First off, can you cite where you found it this girl was white? I honestly haven’t seen a word about this girl’s background or her race but I’m sure some site has something out there. Furthermore it is an example of your own racism to assume WHITE people would be more hacked at a white victim than a black victim. I don’t want women of any color raped!!!! Not that Jameis raped her or it wasn’t consensual. It’s his PATTERN of self entitlement that is disturbing.
This is NOT about Jameis color!!!! Mariota is NOT white yet EVERYBODY loves this dude!!! Why?
Johnny Football was WHITE. He was every bit as polarizing as Jameis and he took just as much heat for it. Notice I said polarizing…and he wasn’t accused of anything…just photographed as a party animal with many beautiful chicks on his arm. He was arrogant, and a showboat on the field with his money signs. Some people may love that. Other simply do not find arrogant behavior of jocks that appealing. It truly has nothing to do with race.
There is plenty of racism in our society and I’m not a pollyanna. But the world of sports is the very closest we have to a colorblind society. We now no longer talk about black QB’s not being qualified, we have plenty of black coaches and if this particular black player is not selected first he’ll still go high enough to make millions and millions, hardly victimized by racism. And again the fellow who would go number one if not Jameis will either be a half black half Polynesian or a black defensive lineman.
Race is NOT an issue. This is simply the 2015 version of the Johnny Football reaction.
January 8th, 2015 at 1:22 pm
BTW Serious question for all.
If Johnny Football hadn’t had his own off field issues do we suspect he would have been drafted higher? IE did he pay a price for his behavior?
What’s funny to me is we’re talking about the “price” JF or Famous is paying for their behavior. Boohoo Only ten million instead of twenty? I think both of them will do fine thank you.
January 8th, 2015 at 1:25 pm
Naw man not afraid, but Lovie ball with no idea of who the OC will be leaves a lot of uncertainty about whether the Bucs would be better with either one of these QB’s or going all in on defense/O line and rolling with Glennon or some other vet QB retread. I personally have a slight preference to Mariota but think it a wasted #1 pick if the Bucs hire an OC that wants to run a dull conventional style offense. Winston strikes me as not being mature enough to handle the scrutiny, the money, and the pressure of the NFL. Hey maybe I’m wrong, but many a physically talented QB has tanked within 3 seasons of life in the NFL.
January 8th, 2015 at 1:29 pm
I agree with you Jimbo. The Glazers are simply not going to take this chance on the “face of the franchise”. And this may actually be the very best thing for Jameis.
First off he can’t find a worse offense to draft him. His season next year would have to be easier than if the Bucs take him. That’s on the field.
Off the field if he stays in West Florida all this division you’re reading on this blog will just keep festering and bubbling over.
If Jameis got selected by Tennessee he would effectively disappear until he could lead the Titans back to the promised land and then the PR would be all about his on field achievements.
Can you see the circus that would come to town with Jameis if he came to Tampa? That may be unfair, but it is what it is. You can see how pronounced this division is locally by the name calling it generates and even prompted on poster to “pray for my soul”. LOL
He may be a great kid. He absolutely has talent. But he would be an incredibly divisive pick and fairly or not he’d get NO sympathy from the 50% who wanted Mariota. The first rough patch for poor Jameis and the crab leg, bb gun, obscenity shouting would just keep coming up. And that’s if he keeps a totally clean behavior!
Here are some New Year Wishes. I’d love Jameis to go to the Titans and become the player they hoped Vince Young was going to be. I hope he succeeds so much that one day he and Marcus face off in a Super Bowl. That would truly be awesome and bring some closure to this debate. At least the racial part would disappear. Second wish if for you FSU fans. Hope your teams has another great year and you reach the final four again. Go Noles!
With the talent already on campus and the incredible recruiting class I EXPECT the NOLES to reach the playoffs again.
January 8th, 2015 at 1:39 pm
If Winston is such a slam dunk….and the Bucs are sure to pick him……why would we have any problems finding an unemployed OC?
I may be one of the few that is comfortable leaving the decision in the hands of those who will have to live with it.
Yes, I support Mariota because I think the entire team needs a couple of years to develop and I think the pro-ready difference doesn’t outweigh the longer term Mariota benefit…..and, he can RUN!!!
January 8th, 2015 at 1:40 pm
i would rather take advice of ex players and people who have been involved in the NFL and Scouting than listen to the advice of these couch GM’s.. Hate on the man all you want but Jameis is a gamer and thats what we need. Way better than Mariota and time will tell..sit tight Winston haters
January 8th, 2015 at 1:46 pm
I love the bucs. I flight in from New York to watch them. If the draft Winston I will find a new team. I will not let my kids root for a person like Winston. He would be the the most troubled 1 over all pick ever in my opinion. I will not raise my kids to look up to a person just because he can play a game. They need to be a good person off the field. Damaging property, stealing and the disrespect for women is not ok
January 8th, 2015 at 1:50 pm
I am more concerned with Lovie’s ineptitude than Winstons character
January 8th, 2015 at 1:54 pm
Winston goes thru his progressions better than alot of NFL quaterbacks do including the Bucs. He can thread the needle with the 3rd option better than any college qb coming out this year. Period. I like Mariota also but he has not shown that.
January 8th, 2015 at 1:56 pm
Nybucsfan Damaging property, stealing and the disrespect for women is not ok
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You are so right sir. It’s not OK but it’s also not a Death Sentence either. What about forgiveness and second chances are do they only count when it’s convenient. I am not defending the dude, he did some stupid stuff but he does not deserve blind hate from folks who do not have all the facts. I commend you having a stance and looking out for your kids… I just don’t think he deserves a complete write off just yet.
January 8th, 2015 at 1:58 pm
JJFN
I always am entertained by your posts whether I agree or not. You do have a wicked sense of snark that I can appreciate!
My only problem is that the truth hurts and sometimes you just state the truth so bluntly that is both frightening and painful!
I am more concerned with Lovie’s ineptitude than Winstons character
I AM one who is concerned about Winston’s character but when I think about it you’re right. If my choice was a new coach and Jameis or Lovie and Marcus I’d take Jameis and the new coach. LOL
January 8th, 2015 at 2:01 pm
Alot of you let the media sway your opinion. Just the fact he has a 3.4gpa as an engineer major as well as be a dual sport athlete… You don’t know how hard that is to do.
January 8th, 2015 at 2:02 pm
Lovie needs to veto his no cursing rule then maybe we can get some help on this teem.. including coaches.. People of all religions and race curse sometimes.. Bring back cursing and bring back the Frickin Superbowl..
January 8th, 2015 at 2:02 pm
@ JJFN
That sort of sounds like….”I’m more concerned about ISIS than Al-Queda”
January 8th, 2015 at 2:12 pm
I can see it now. We will draft marcus because our fans don’t like Winston and Winston will be a star and in 4 years we will be drafting number 1 again
January 8th, 2015 at 2:24 pm
You may be right INDY…OTOH there are an equal number of fans who see Jameis going Josh Freeman while Marcus becomes the next Aaron Rodgers.
There is a gamble with EITHER pick on the field and with one of them off the field as well. Choose your poison and roll the dice.
January 8th, 2015 at 2:25 pm
TBBF
Nice simile. JJFN did sort of give us the Al Qaeda Isis comparison.
January 8th, 2015 at 2:30 pm
Lovie is drafting DL #1…you know it to be true. That being said, Winston is by FAR the more pro-ready of the two (that’s on the field, pro ready). The question turns then on near vs. long-term and which player has the greater upside. This includes factoring in all of the off the field elements including Winston’s alleged misdeeds and Mariota’s so-called quiet and shy demeanor. Which player can lead this franchise for the next 5-10 years? Neither player grades out anywhere close to Luck from this perspective. If Mariota is RGIII before the knee, ego and meltdown, that’s something to consider. We forget just how dynamic RGIII played for a few weeks during his rookie season. If Mariota brings that skill level and can learn the NFL and sustain progress, he’ll be the first of the read-option guys (I don’t count Wilson in that bunch, strictly) to do so. Hence the gamble. With Winston, maturity is the issue. As a player he reminds me of Warren Moon/Steve McNair (size, strength, feel for the game). This team needs a leader, an alpha. I think Winston has the potential to be that.
January 8th, 2015 at 2:32 pm
TMZ Sports just posted pictures of Mike Evans…he is engaged now
January 8th, 2015 at 2:42 pm
oh! shaun king says bucs should draft him? why didn’t you say so done! LMFAO!!!!!
January 8th, 2015 at 2:48 pm
Shocker Donovan McNabb endorsing another black quarterback. Shaun King also. Next it will be wife beater Warren Moon.
January 8th, 2015 at 2:49 pm
Freeman 2.0
January 8th, 2015 at 2:52 pm
I will bet anyone any bet u can think of that we don’t draft Winston. Only idiots would draft him #1 overall. Even the Titans blog doesn’t want him at #2. Mariota is far and away the better prospect (overall).
January 8th, 2015 at 2:53 pm
Many of us have tried to explain the whole meme thing to StPetefan. I think he is just too old to understand the concept. Maybe he understands but it goes against his narrative so much that he choose to ignore it and just repeat the same post over and over.
I think he and a lot of people post without reading the comments first much like people like to talk but not listen.
January 8th, 2015 at 2:55 pm
Winston has wayyyy more bust potential than Mariota. C’mon, Joes, use your brains.
January 8th, 2015 at 2:57 pm
@Scooby- I agree! whats really going to freak out the people who want the bucs to draft a QB me included. is lovie probably will not! draft one not in the first round anyhow! unless it comes from up top.
January 8th, 2015 at 3:00 pm
Joe and all the rapist supporters could learn alot from this article…. http://marylandsportsinsider.com/wordpress1/the-mobile-quarterback-misconception/
January 8th, 2015 at 3:12 pm
LOVIE DOVIE- needs to win now or he is history! he does not want to start a rookie QB that being said they should take one hopefully m.m and let him hold a clip board. and learn the nfl is a lot faster. it really is different in a lot of ways than college. they are both great college QBs. but they are not going to come in and carry this team not going to happen. don’t forget our coach is no offensive guru! that’s for sure.
January 8th, 2015 at 3:38 pm
Stanglassman
Nobody has tried to explain the meme to me. From what was explained here his obscenity was in reaction to the charges. If that’s wrong feel free to correct me.
I may be “mature” LOL but I’m not dead. I listen to today’s music and am on the internet and certainly understand “memes”.
Explain this “meme” to me so I can be educated. I’d love to know the justification for somebody screaming out F her in the p? Whatever the meme or reason?
I’m truly an open minded person and I’ll happily read your explanation.
January 8th, 2015 at 3:41 pm
I am the furthest thing from a racist. But of course McNabb of all people is going to want Winston. He has always made comments and preferences toward the African American population. I have no problem with a guy sticking up for his people. But when that’s your calling card for so long I tend to go the other direction. Thanks but no thanks.
January 8th, 2015 at 3:54 pm
This debate is crazy! For the past 2-3 years I’ve watch both MM and JW. MM plays in a offense that just about any QB can succeed in. The QB before him helped take the team to play in the championship game against Aurburn! On the other hand JW took the same team that EJ Manuel had and went undefeated and won a title! JW played in a pro-style offense, he makes all the NFL throws and he can read defenses. I have nothing against MM, I just think he is a product of OUs fast paced offense more than he is a good pro QB. We need to pick JW without flinching!
January 8th, 2015 at 4:10 pm
Why would the Glazers balk at making Winston the face of the franchise?As it stands right now, the head coach, who is essentially a face of the franchise, can easily be mistaken for Homey D. Clown and that does not garner respect throughout the league…time to roll the dice.
January 8th, 2015 at 4:30 pm
The only reason I think there’s a chance the Bucs draft Winston is that they pretty much are GUARANTEED TO SCREW UP WHEN IT COMES TO DRAFTING QB’s.
Lovie Smith is no quarterback guru.
Our best hope here is that the Glazers step in and tell Smith that he must draft Mariota. Because if he drafts Winston, WInston will get into trouble and Smith will end up getting fired and in 2 years we’ll be right here again staring at a #1 pick after a 2 or 3 win season.
January 8th, 2015 at 4:32 pm
“Why would the Glazers balk at making Winston the face of the franchise?”
Because they’ve been working their a$$es off to get this franchise back to respectability and drafting a total freaking knucklehead who’s dragging a pile of red flags behind him, with the most important selection in the last 15 years isn’t going to do it. Look no further than Cleveland, who reached for a knucklehead last year and are already regretting it.
January 8th, 2015 at 4:59 pm
Jameis is junk. Mariota is mediocre.
January 8th, 2015 at 5:07 pm
Donovan says he is #1 but the few timed I have seen him he has played like #2….and I am not referring to the 2nd pick either.
January 8th, 2015 at 5:08 pm
StPeteBucsFan Says:
January 8th, 2015 at 3:38 pm
Nobody has tried to explain the meme to me. From what was explained here his obscenity was in reaction to the charges. If that’s wrong feel free to correct me.
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StPete – what you are apparently NOT understanding is that the popular crude meme Winston shouted out had absolutely nothing to do with the sex accusation against him. Jameis wasn’t bragging about the incident nor referring to those allegations against him in any way when he yelled that out.
Was it a good decision considering the level of scrutiny a Heisman winning QB with a sex accusation pending against him is sure to undergo? Of course not. But there was no connection in Winston’s mind to the allegation in that moment. It was just an impulsive act on his part. He didn’t think before he did it that it wasn’t a smart decision – which I’m sure he painfully understands in retrospect after all the negative reaction to it. He’s 20 years old and has some growing up to do mentally and emotionally.
I’m pretty sure most people can think back to some bad decisions they made when they were that age.
Without the sexual allegations (which have been scrutinized 9 ways to Sunday legally and were found multiple times by multiple people to be completely without merit), would this “pattern” you speak of even exist? Would a BB gun war, video taping a 1 night stand, $27 dollars worth of crab legs and shouting a popular meme/obscenity in public over a 2 year period constitute a concerning “pattern” of bad behavior? I say while minorly concerning – none of that stuff is a big deal really and doesn’t in any way diminish what he has accomplished on the field and what he is likely to accomplish in the NFL. This young man will be a top 10 NFL QB quickly – mark my words.
January 8th, 2015 at 5:27 pm
Here are this thread’s pertinent posts.
DallasBuc Says:
January 8th, 2015 at 1:11 pm
Buc fans are so afraid to take a chance on greatness. Come up with any and all excuses to not wager on premium QB talent…. We can be great with Winston!
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BucIt941 Says:
January 8th, 2015 at 1:14 pm
Player for Player Winston is the better QB (on the field) Hands down. Why take a project who people hope he will learn how to play pro style and become a good QB versus a plug and play QB like Winston?
Don’t be foolish and let petty emotions get in the way of judging a business decision. Winning is what pays in the NFL. WHO GIVES YOU THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN AND WIN NOW?
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CC Says:
January 8th, 2015 at 1:54 pm
Winston goes thru his progressions better than alot of NFL quaterbacks do including the Bucs. He can thread the needle with the 3rd option better than any college qb coming out this year. Period. I like Mariota also but he has not shown that.
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william Says:
January 8th, 2015 at 2:01 pm
Alot of you let the media sway your opinion. Just the fact he has a 3.4gpa as an engineer major as well as be a dual sport athlete… You don’t know how hard that is to do.
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Soggy Says:
January 8th, 2015 at 2:02 pm
Bring back cursing
January 8th, 2015 at 8:20 pm
Oregon 59. FSU 20 something.
Enough said.
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January 8th, 2015 at 8:31 pm
“Oregon 59. FSU 20 something.
Enough said.”
Huh?
The Ducks beat the Noles. Comparing the two QB’s requires much more to be said.
January 8th, 2015 at 9:11 pm
To all those saying bucs should draft Mariota because he is the better athlete, he can run fast, etc…. This is not a decathlon, this is football and, specifically, the QB position. Also, I wouldn’t be shocked if you’re underestimating winstons athletic ability. I bet Mariota is a better athlete than 80% of current NFL QBs too. Thats nice for the combine, but it’s like 15th on a prioritized list of attributes you need from your QB.
January 8th, 2015 at 9:12 pm
@buddha, did the NFL switch to a draft format where you draft entire squads instead of individual players? Must’ve missed that.
January 8th, 2015 at 9:14 pm
@pickgrin,
Solidly curated collection.
January 8th, 2015 at 11:40 pm
This guy is a draft bust! He is full of question marks surrounding his moral character. If he’s so good then how come he tossed so many interceptions this year? Not to mention the fact that those interceptions were mostly tossed in the first half costing the team dearly. He clearly went backwards and if not for the team that surrounded him there would not have been that many come backs. This guy is a disaster arguing with his coach on the field and embarrassing the school off the field. He’s a talent alright, clearly a wasted talent! Open your eyes up people. I can’t understand how this guy gets a pass for all of this bad play and bad life choices.