Jameis Watch: The Only First-Round QB?
January 17th, 2015
Crab-legs-stealing, BB-gun-shooting, obscenity-hollering, Heisman-Trophy-winning, former national champion Jameis Winston, the pride of Florida State University, continues to look like a much better quarterback prospect than Mike Glennon and Josh McCown.
It’s Joe’s daily nugget on the Jameis Watch, celebrating the best quarterback to wear No. 5 ever in the state of Florida.
After a dozen years as an NFL quarterback, and decades breaking down college football for the big networks, Gary Danielson has earned himself quite a reputation. SEC fans know him well.
So Joe found it noteworthy this week when Danielson joined WFNZ-AM in Charlotte for a chat about quarterbacks.
Danielson admits he’s scared of Jameis Winston’s off-field antics and how that might affect him in various ways in the NFL, but Danielson seemed much more fearful of Marcus Mariota.
In fact, Danielson is confident Mariota’s name will not be called on Day 1 of the 2015 NFL Draft.
“I think it’s very possible that Mariota is going to slip out of the first round,” Danielson said. “I don’t think there’s any doubt about that. He struggled from the pocket, he’s slender build. Spread quarterbacks have not done well.”
He went on to recommend the Bucs draft Winston, even if it’s just a calculated gamble that will sell a lot of tickets at the Den of Depression.
It’s hard for Joe to agree with any of this.
The Bucs aren’t going to draft Winston to sell tickets. If Team Glazer was wired that way, then Tim Tebow would have been Buccaneer already, if only as training camp and/or preseason meat.
Second, in the age of quarterbacks, it’s hard to believe Mariota would fall to the second round. However, Teddy Bridgewater fell to the 32nd pick last season, largely on the silly perception he was too skinny, and because of some bad throws at a meaningless pro day.
Danielson is credible, though, and his comments are intriguing tonight.
January 17th, 2015 at 9:22 pm
It’s what scares me the most about Mariota.
“Spread quarterbacks have not done well.”
This is why I think Mariota will end up being the bust out of the 2.
January 17th, 2015 at 9:24 pm
Sure, I bet the Raiders back in 2007 picking #1 would like a do over, with THECRAPSHOOT they picked, and they missed out on some sure bets. Do the right thing, draft Leonard Williams. RI’ll the dice with MG8.
January 17th, 2015 at 9:27 pm
@Joe…Glennon or Jameis?
Which one is better?
Ahahahahahahaha
January 17th, 2015 at 9:32 pm
Please add soda stealing at Burger King to Shameis rap sheet! Manager called police, Shameis said he knew he was stealing and didnt give a damn! He’s lower than mattress Mike! Face of Bucs franchise!
January 17th, 2015 at 9:39 pm
Joe,
I love the site and come here several times a day but for those that want Mariota we’re feeling like a red headed stepchild.
January 17th, 2015 at 9:39 pm
He stole soda in a little soufflé cup.
Oh the HORROR!
January 17th, 2015 at 9:40 pm
cometowin2…4 more months of being a red headed stepchild.
January 17th, 2015 at 9:53 pm
Correction: For those that want Mariota, you are red-headed stepchildren. Now go upstairs and clean your room while the rest of us talk about Buc football 😉
January 17th, 2015 at 9:53 pm
Danielson is an idiot. Rodgers has a slender build. Brees played in a spread offense at Perdue. This idiot has no idea what makes a great NFL QB. What makes a great QB is all between the ears.
January 17th, 2015 at 9:56 pm
Speaking of Tebow has broadcasting success insured he’s totally given up on the NFL.
I would still like to see him at another position. I’d like to see a creative OC use him as a hybrid H back, moving him from TE..FB..out wide.
Tebow is clearly not an NFL QB he can’t make the throws. But he would instantly become the best passer to toss second passes in the league. He would be a capable runner in spot situations.
Sell tickets? Imagine an FSU Heisman throwing the ball to a UF Heisman!!!
January 17th, 2015 at 9:57 pm
The problem is that you guys think the Bucs should gamble the odds with the 1st pick. I have no problem with Mariota’s potential. I have a problem with potential at number 1. Pick the guy that you know has shown the skills that you need and that guy is Winston.
January 17th, 2015 at 10:01 pm
BFFL Says:
January 17th, 2015 at 9:53 pm
Danielson is an idiot. Rodgers has a slender build. Brees played in a spread offense at Perdue. This idiot has no idea what makes a great NFL QB. What makes a great QB is all between the ears.
Based on this comment one is forced to assume you are currently employed by an NFL team or are developing an NFL QB all by yourself.
Either way, congrats for doing either of the two so much better than the supposed “idiot” you referred to in you comment.
Now back to reality you idiot.
January 17th, 2015 at 10:03 pm
Luther Says:
January 17th, 2015 at 9:57 pm
The problem is that you guys think the Bucs should gamble the odds with the 1st pick. I have no problem with Mariota’s potential. I have a problem with potential at number 1. Pick the guy that you know has shown the skills that you need and that guy is Winston.
Couldn’t agree more unless I was taking a dump on a Mariota #1 supporter’s front porch.
January 17th, 2015 at 10:10 pm
Wow, this is like a wild roller coaster with all the ups and downs at breakneck speed. The needle is swinging back and forth between Winston and Mariota, never standing still. Now Mariota is a plug. Now I can’t get a grip on who has it right.
January 17th, 2015 at 10:10 pm
0% chance of Mariota slipping out of the first round. If he’s on the board in the early teens Chip Kelly is moving up to get him.
January 17th, 2015 at 10:10 pm
87 read the whole article! He started small asked for a water cup and when received water cup filled it with soda! Telling manager he knows he’s stealing and doesn’t give a damn says what kind of person he is! Smith doesn’t like pattern of disturbing behavior! Mattress cut by Bills says they had enough of him! 87 loved Mattress Mike!
January 17th, 2015 at 10:13 pm
“Wow, this is like a wild roller coaster with all the ups and downs at breakneck speed. The needle is swinging back and forth between Winston and Mariota, never standing still. Now Mariota is a plug. Now I can’t get a grip on who has it right.”
There is no needle. There are just reporters and bloggers looking to keep people reading by insinuating that it’s a fluid situation and saying different things every so often. It’s not like Lovie and Licht are changing their minds every three hours.
January 17th, 2015 at 10:16 pm
Hey Gary…..want to bet?
January 17th, 2015 at 10:18 pm
Joe when I say the Glazers will want Winston because he’s from FSU and in state, I mean that as an added bonus.
You have to actually know how to throw the ball too.
Something Tebow never learned.
January 17th, 2015 at 10:19 pm
carlstoe…it was a ketchup cup.
January 17th, 2015 at 10:20 pm
carlstoe…don’t get mad a me when Lovie takes Winston.
It won’t be my fault.
January 17th, 2015 at 10:25 pm
When Jameis is selected by the Bucs at 1, will carlstoe root for another team? I can only hope.
January 17th, 2015 at 10:27 pm
No way Winston is drafted by Bucs. Face of franchise will be in Civil court for 2 years defending himself from accusations of rape. Correct Joe?
January 17th, 2015 at 10:28 pm
Great, if the rest of the NFL is retarded like this guy we can take BPA at 1 and grab Marcus in round 2.
January 17th, 2015 at 10:29 pm
Lovie, the guy who thought Mike Williams was too much trouble, isn’t drafting a knucklehead to lead the franchise. And the Glazers wouldn’t allow it even if he wanted to.
They’ll go through the motions, but Winston won’t be the pick.
January 17th, 2015 at 10:31 pm
For carl and his toe.
It depends on where you get your article I guess….
Jameis Winston’s embarrassing offseason just got a little more embarrassing today when TMZ obtained a copy of a 2013 phone call to the police from a Burger King employee claiming Winston was stealing from the soda fountain. The assistant manager at a Burger King just off Florida State’s campus is very upset during the call, and asks for a police officer to come by right away.
The best part? Winston and his friends were drinking from ketchup cups. Yes, ketchup cups. Those little bitty cups for your ketchup. That’s what your Heisman winning quarterback used to get his free sugar rush.
January 17th, 2015 at 10:32 pm
Who wants to place a little wager?
January 17th, 2015 at 10:33 pm
Wish everyone would stop saying what Lovie and the Glazers want, none of you know that. Stick to some damn facts or give your own opinion, stop speaking for these guys like you’re sitting in the board room.
January 17th, 2015 at 10:36 pm
Lovie IS going to take Winston. That’s my prediction.
You buy me season tickets to the home opener if I’m right
I’ll buy you tickets to the home opener if I’m wrong.
Sound fair. Any takers?
January 17th, 2015 at 10:38 pm
Guys will get a pass if their talent outweighs their off field issues. That will be the decision the NFL brass has to make when it comes to Jameis. That is why Williams was ousted imo, more trouble than he was worth…what did he do for the Bills again?
January 17th, 2015 at 10:43 pm
Rob Says:
January 17th, 2015 at 10:10 pm
0% chance of Mariota slipping out of the first round. If he’s on the board in the early teens Chip Kelly is moving up to get him.
Absolutely correct Rob. If either of these guys slips – its going to be Mariota – not Winston – but I certainly don’t see Mariota falling out of the top 10 – and not being drafted in the 1st round is absolutely ridiculous.
jfat Says:
January 17th, 2015 at 10:28 pm
Great, if the rest of the NFL is retarded like this guy we can take BPA at 1 and grab Marcus in round 2.
LOL – good one dude. Better yet – we’ll take Winston AND Mariota and tell McCown and Glennon to take a hike…
January 17th, 2015 at 10:48 pm
Lol pickgrin. That thought came.to mind too, would be crazy as hell around here and we could continue the jameis/mariota argument for years!
January 17th, 2015 at 10:49 pm
jfat…why was Penn ousted?
Why was Zuttah ousted?
Why was Revis ousted?
Bunch of trouble makers?
Perhaps Williams was ousted because Lovie made a bad decision? I know right?
Lovie made great decisions…
January 17th, 2015 at 10:59 pm
Penn – salary and declining performance in 2013. Didn’t work out but made some sense.
Zuttah – I honestly couldn’t think of a good reason for him, slightly overpaid but his versatility made him worth it imo.
Revis -16 mill was too much, if he would have played here for 10-12 I bet he’d still be here.
I didn’t say the ONLY reason people get ousted is for causing trouble. But I think that is the main reason MW was sent packing, he isn’t a great player and he’s a headache. Jameis may be an equal headache but I’m pretty sure he will be a better player than Williams, positions aside.
January 18th, 2015 at 12:07 am
Jameis is better than Luck coming out of Stanford
January 18th, 2015 at 12:38 am
Jameis off field issues are a little disturbing. BUT he is the best player not even close.. Big Ben pissed on a girl in the bathroom at the bar. Manziel is a NIGHTMARE off the field and he couldn’t carry jameis jock across the field, Dan Marino was considered too much of a partier and a coke head. Social media and gators fans will hate this guy. At the end of the day he makes the bucs better immediately. Maybe we do need a cocky dude to come in here and think he can win it all. Why not???
January 18th, 2015 at 12:48 am
Hard work, leadership in the lockeroom, and the most competitive guy on the field every night.
January 18th, 2015 at 12:50 am
Jameis isn’t better than Luck. Stop the nonsense.
January 18th, 2015 at 12:56 am
Jameis would probably not get arrested for wishing he could sniff Andrew Luck’s Jock Strap.
January 18th, 2015 at 1:01 am
He’s better than mariota!
January 18th, 2015 at 1:07 am
The realist,guru’s,prognosticators,analysts, and various media members know that Winston is the better QB (there is no argument). The problem lies with those who don’t like Winston and try to paint him as a career criminal to justify their case for the other qb because they have nothing else to support their claim that mariota or a trade down is the better option.
January 18th, 2015 at 1:09 am
If we go QB at 1, give me crab legs or give me death.
January 18th, 2015 at 1:11 am
Agree with Newbuccsfan.
I judge Jameis, and other players by their play on the field not off the field shenanigans. That’s for the justice system.
January 18th, 2015 at 1:12 am
I don’t want Winston now because he illegally drank soda from a ketchup cup. I hate that he even walks the streets after committing such a horrible crime. He needs to be locked up with the guys that take too much BBQ sauce at Chick-Fil-A. The world would be a much better place if we could get these criminals off the street.
January 18th, 2015 at 1:22 am
If I may coin a phrase from above: “Danielson is an idiot!”
January 18th, 2015 at 1:46 am
Joe doesn’t tolerate insults. You might want to actually re-read what’s here. –Joe
January 18th, 2015 at 1:53 am
“Spread quarterbacks have not done well…”
Tell that to Drew Brees, Alex Smith, Joe Flacco, or Cam Newton. And Others.
And Anyone saying JaMarcus Russell was a Spread Bust is an idiot… LSU is/was/has been a Pro Style team.
If you think playing in a watered down, windy dink “Pro Style” offense gives Jameis Winston anything more than a single stroke handicap, you’re kidding yourself. Anyone who wants to “win now” is an idiot. If we added five All-Pros to this team, we’re 7-9 at best, 9-7 if that’s an All Pro Quarterback (which Rookies never are.)
Go with the complete package over thinking Winston is going to jumpstart anything. Go with Mariota. He’s someone who can be the face of an organization. Don’t go with the overrated DE prospects… they wouldn’t have been first round picks last year, either. And don’t trade down, the Offensive Tackles are also very weak in this draft, too.
January 18th, 2015 at 2:21 am
I don’t know why Andrew luck is being discussed or who brought him up. No jameis isn’t him, but honestly there may be only a few who are. Jameis is better than half of the starters in the NFL now. It’s about winning now and the future. The most important position on the team is the QB and we don’t have one that we feel like we can win with so why the hell wouldn’t we draft one??? People that don’t want jAmeis just don’t like him can’t be anything with on field play BC if it is they just don’t watch the games
January 18th, 2015 at 2:26 am
So we go with the good character nice guy? Or better player? Jameis Winston has been thru more scrutiny and pressure than maybe any college player ever and all he has done is win 26-1. The guy put his team in his back to get to where they were their roster was not what is was last year. Jameis has been thru it all. Marriota hasn’t. In week 3 when josh mcown has thrown 9 picks and we wanna put in Marriota and he is a disaster how till we want him out??? The pressure is too much here for that kid who has never been under center.
January 18th, 2015 at 2:57 am
Tebow?
Huh?
Lol
January 18th, 2015 at 3:50 am
Assuming Winston does not fall from the high bar of scrutiny and grace that apparently you messiahs exist in it is pretty effin clear this guy will change our franchise in solid, not gimmicky, ways. Let go scared Bucs fans and embrace actual talent at the QB position.
January 18th, 2015 at 4:46 am
Skyline Crew for Mariota or Winston Says:
January 18th, 2015 at 12:50 am
Jameis isn’t better than Luck. Stop the nonsense.
Jameis Winston is better than Andrew Luck! Why so you think there is so many bells and whistles surrounded his “off the field issues?”
January 18th, 2015 at 4:53 am
Jameis has been surrounded by superior talent his whole career- Benjamin and the little RB last year- Jernigan- the list goes on- similar to Russell at LSU or Tebow at Fl with Harvin and all the other first rounders. His line gives him days and he makes questionable throws into tight windows- when was the last time the first overall pick led the NCAA in interceptions ( or is close, I know he is up there). fSU had such a soft schedule this year and Winston regressed- and all the late comeback heroics are him fixing his mistakes. Yelling at your coach like Dez Bryant on the sidelines isn’t what top pick franchise QBs do unless you are Ryan Leaf. The kid has loads of talent and is more ready from day 1- but poor character and other questions mean you can’t take him at 1 unless you are Al Davis. We cannot afford to miss and not have this pick n our team in 5 years. 2 contracts minimum from our top pick!!!
January 18th, 2015 at 4:54 am
And he isn’t even close to Luck- idiot free shoes grad
January 18th, 2015 at 7:29 am
Meat Says:
January 18th, 2015 at 4:53 am
“Jameis has been surrounded by superior talent his whole career.”
Jameis Winston was the #1 recruit coming out of high school. He’s been groomed to play QB since he was 8 years old. Many, many, many, many, many, many, many colleges wanted Jameis Winston,
Jameis Winston got accepted to Stanford.
Put away your orange and blue Gator glasses already.
January 18th, 2015 at 8:53 am
Carlstoe: you’re a complete moron. He put soda in a catsup cup. Let me say that again, he put soda in a catsup cup, and someone called the cops.
If I was the manager of that Burger King I would’ve thought seriously about firing the worker for such a gross over exaggeration. He called the cops on a HS kid for putting soda in a catsup cup–I dont know who’s the bigger a-hole, that worker or carlstoe…
January 18th, 2015 at 9:00 am
I don’t like either guy at #1 overall. The problem the winston crowd is ignoring is that if winston is not on the field due to off field issues, he can’t help us. And by the way, you are not innocent until proven guilty in the nfl. I like winstons talent but think the risk is too high in the post Ray rice nfl. If the Big Ben incident happened now, have may have been suspended for a year or longer. It’s a new day guys. One off field issue involving a female and the whole rape allegation will surface again. There will be an outcry to have the nfl put a stop to violence against women and your talented, winning, pro ready QB will be sitting.
Too much risk with both guys, trade down and picks for 2015 and 2016. We’ve stunk for years. Let’s have some patience and build for the long haul.
January 18th, 2015 at 9:17 am
There will be some teams that are willing to bet the franchise on one of these guys, see rg iii. Let’s take advantage and get a ton of picks.
January 18th, 2015 at 9:28 am
Rays8Jenningsfan,
Marcus Mariota is the “complete package?” Oh boy….
January 18th, 2015 at 9:54 am
Bucnut2..Do you trust Lovie and Licht to make all those picks that you want us to have?
I sure as hell don’t.
I’d also like to place another wager : If the Bucs draft Jameis I wager he gets in no more trouble once he signs with us.
I also wager that the rape civil case will be thrown out for lack of evidence. I don’t think Winston will even see the inside of a court room. He will however see Mike Evans deep downfield.
January 18th, 2015 at 10:01 am
If I had a daughter, I would want her to meet guys like Mariota and Tebow because of their behavior off the field. If I want winning football for my NFL team, I want Winston because on the field, he’s a true gamer.
My biggest issue with Mariota besides lack of NFL throws is that during the national championship loss, he laid down. Even Tebow rallies his guys to give their all. I understand that not everyone gets pumped up but football is an emotional game and leaders are super valuable.
January 18th, 2015 at 10:08 am
Hope they draft Winston and it will be a win win for me. Either he wins on the field and my Bucs get back to the playoffs or he messes up off the field and gets the punishment he finally deserves. Either way I will be happy so pick Winston!!!
January 18th, 2015 at 10:24 am
I’d rather get Bryce Petty in the second round!
January 18th, 2015 at 11:06 am
Stop it with the Bryce Petty. He is behind Maiota and far behind at that. I don’t want Mariota and I sure as heck don’t want Bryce Petty. We are at the top of the draft because our QB stinks. Pick the best QB on the board and that is Winston.
January 18th, 2015 at 11:50 am
What is the justification the Winston is better then Luck? Nobody has supported the opinion except for a couple of you. Winton doesn’t have the arm strength of Luck. Winston can’t run an NFL offense like Luck. Winston isn’t mobile like Luck. Please tell me what on God’s green Earth makes you think Winston is better than Luck!
January 18th, 2015 at 12:14 pm
Luther, why don’t you stop with “Winston”crap it’s getting old ,there is a 50/50 chance this guy is in the league 5 years from now.BECAUSE OF THE OFF THE FIELD ISSUES!!!!!!!
P.S We don’t have to draft him, just became he played at FLORIDA STATE!!
January 18th, 2015 at 12:57 pm
Skyline Crew for Mariota or Winston Says:
January 18th, 2015 at 11:50 am
Please tell me what on God’s green Earth makes you think Winston is better than Luck!
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An excessive amount of whatever Josh Freeman was on most likely.
January 18th, 2015 at 5:55 pm
We are not drafting him because he played at FSU. We will draft him because he is the best QB and we need one. Get onboard.