Jameis Watch: The Godfather’s Blessing
January 21st, 2015
Crab-legs-stealing, BB-gun-shooting, obscenity-hollering, Heisman-Trophy-winning, former national champion Jameis Winston, the pride of Florida State University, continues to look like a much better quarterback prospect than Mike Glennon and Josh McCown.
It’s Joe’s daily nugget on the Jameis Watch, celebrating the best quarterback to wear No. 5 ever in the state of Florida.
The architect of the Cowboys in the 1960s, 70s and 80s, and “The Godfather” of modern scouting, Gil Brandt is still a busy many working for NFL.com and SiriusXM NFL Radio.
Brandt, of course, has a firm take on the Jameis Winston-Marcus Mariota debate. And he likes Winston, but especially in Tampa.
Bucs should roll the dice on Winston
In my estimation, Winston is the most NFL-ready quarterback in this draft. He has all the measurables and played in a pro-style offense. When Florida State came to Dallas for its opener against Oklahoma State in late August, I had the opportunity to visit with all the FSU coaches, including Jimbo Fisher, who told me Winston was the best quarterback he’d ever had, from a talent standpoint and as a worker. Yes, he played much better in 2013, but I think all the off-field issues he was dealing with affected him on the field this past season. I think he’s awfully immature, but that’s different than being malicious. By all accounts, he’s not. If you can get him into a smaller town, a town like Tampa, he has a chance to become an excellent quarterback in the NFL. If I were the Buccaneers, I’d roll the dice.
Joe has the utmost respect for The Godfather. Joe also agrees that the pressure on Winston would be manageable in Tampa, versus if he walked into the quarterback-starved cauldron that is the Jets or the Eagles.
The Bucs should present a very homey feel for Winston, and Joe can only imagine who much Gerald McCoy would have is back loudly and publicly inside and out of One Buc Palace.
January 21st, 2015 at 1:36 pm
Gil Brandt would roll the dice b/c he’s not losing his job if Winston doesn’t pan out.
January 21st, 2015 at 1:38 pm
Instead of handing this clown $20 Million just donate it to charity! You’ll feel better for it after the 2015 season and beyond. Not saying take Mariota, but think long and hard what this kid is going to do when you hand him that guaranteed money.
January 21st, 2015 at 1:44 pm
He’s the best QB in the draft. We need him. I can’t stomach another season of McClown and/or Glennon.
January 21st, 2015 at 1:47 pm
I think he’s awfully immature, but that’s different than being malicious. By all accounts, he’s not.
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That is the key statement from the entire post!
He deserves a second chance not a death sentence. Until he is convicted of a crime stop calling him a criminal. Oh and by the way on Sunday a priest in our town accidentally shot a kid with a BB gun while horse playing. Almost put the little guys eye out. Anyhow, should this well respected member of the community be kicked out because he used poor judgement. I’d say not. But there will always be the perfect ones who only see their side or the side they have been fed by others. Lighten up folks he is an immature college kid that has mad some very bad choices. that’s it. he is not the second coming of charlie manson.
January 21st, 2015 at 1:51 pm
you dont roll the dice with the 1st pick in the draft. lol
especially when the coach is head of the floppy hat and flip-flop club.
you just can’t fix stupid.
January 21st, 2015 at 1:53 pm
http://cbssports.com/images/blogs/bucs_jameis_getty.jpg
Nuff said.
January 21st, 2015 at 1:53 pm
@tmaxcon Second chances come in the second round, not the first overall pick. To much at stake, if he’s there at the top of the second, I’d take him. Not a pick higher that that though.
January 21st, 2015 at 1:58 pm
Robert 9 —
Every single pick from the very first pick in the draft to the last is nothing more than a dice roll. Yes, I realize the values are different but you have to take chances in life. Every single player has something that can hold them back from being the perfect player / person. The bucs need a QB period. He is the best option available it’s a no brainer. Lovie Smith needs Jameis Winston a lot more than Jameis Winston needs lovie smith. Winston will be successful in this league regardless of where he goes and Lovie will be back in the basement where he belongs with Glennon mowing his lawn and Arroyo his house boy all paid for with Glazer cash. .
January 21st, 2015 at 1:59 pm
Supersam…Winston will be gone in the top 3 picks.
January 21st, 2015 at 2:04 pm
no one is saying he is manson.
we are saying his antics indicate much more than that of immaturity. he lacks humility, common sense and respect just to name a few.
talent is common.
having the brains, will power and perserverance to use the gifts God gave you is few and far between.
January 21st, 2015 at 2:06 pm
I watched both 30 for 30 documentaries on the Hurricanes recently, and it reminded me of something many people are dismissing. i am watching clips of michael irvin, warren sapp, ed reed, john vilma, and a ton of others from college and they are complete idiots. entitled, arrogant, juvenile. complete idiots. alot of those idiots grew up and are on their way to the hall of fame if they’re not there already. the kids could play, and they wanted to win and dominate. when the NFL raised the bar, they raised their game. but watching their college selves, that maturity was hard to imagine.
January 21st, 2015 at 2:07 pm
“Lovie Smith needs Jameis Winston a lot more than Jameis Winston needs lovie smith”
not true at all, but an illusion probably very real in many minds and would be a big part of why winston would be a problem child.
EVERYONE is replaceable. the minute you don’t think so, you’re the one on the street.
January 21st, 2015 at 2:15 pm
pick6: None of those guys you mention played QB. For a QB, the demand in NFL prep time & work is way beyond what it is for DT, LB, S or WR. Winston will not have to work twice as hard as he did in college, he will have to put in 8 or 10 times the work and effort. People always like to believe that an immature guy will change, but people don’t change. A guy who is less ready can always study, work on his technique and learn, but a guy with maturity issues almost never gets better in an NFL career before it’s too late. Can you name even one QB who came into the NFL with serious maturity issues who has been successful?
January 21st, 2015 at 2:16 pm
“pick6 Says:
January 21st, 2015 at 2:06 pm
I watched both 30 for 30 documentaries on the Hurricanes recently, and it reminded me of something many people are dismissing. i am watching clips of michael irvin, warren sapp, ed reed, john vilma, and a ton of others from college and they are complete idiots. entitled, arrogant, juvenile. complete idiots. alot of those idiots grew up and are on their way to the hall of fame if they’re not there already. the kids could play, and they wanted to win and dominate. when the NFL raised the bar, they raised their game. but watching their college selves, that maturity was hard to imagine”
Exactly. Does anyone think Sapp is mature, to this day?
Was Brett Favre mature, sending (allegedly) those dong pics at the young age of 39? (39!!!!) Almost twice Winston’s age….
January 21st, 2015 at 2:17 pm
“Roll the dice….” implies it’s a gamble.
Can this team afford to gamble with the No. 1 overall pick?
I pose that question to the rest of those who comment.
January 21st, 2015 at 2:21 pm
its not just maturity.
it’s stupidity and moral charachter.
January 21st, 2015 at 2:24 pm
“Can you name even one QB who came into the NFL with serious maturity issues who has been successful?”
Brett Favre
He had red flags before he was drafted. Maturity and off the field issues (sound familiar?). He drank hard and developed a pill problem in Green Bay. He had issues with coaches and wound up throwing the most interceptions of all time. At age 39, he was accused of sending (tiny) dong pics to a massage therapist wit the Jets.
He’s also a Super Bowl winner, considered one of the greatest QBs ever, with his name all over the record books. I think it worked out ok for him, and he arguably never matured.
January 21st, 2015 at 2:26 pm
an this team afford to gamble with the No. 1 overall pick?
I pose that question to the rest of those who comment.
YES x 100
January 21st, 2015 at 2:27 pm
For some reason I have gathered from a lot of comments this month that the ones who don’t like Jameis, don’t think that he shouldn’t be drafted. It’s that he shouldn’t be drafted by the Bucs and this has to be an argument for floridians only. Look he beat your team(not all by himself), some lost a lot of money, some cried because that game meant so much to them. But that era of football is over for him and you and he’s moving on to the pros to help beat other teams you don’t like(like division rivals).
January 21st, 2015 at 2:27 pm
Every pick in the draft is equivalent to rolling the dice. There are smart risks (Winston) and then not so smart risks (Mariota) with the #1 Overall Pick. Some of you just sound ridiculous trying to twist facts to make yourselves sound more articulate. Lol
January 21st, 2015 at 2:29 pm
Winston is a smart risk? Umm…. OK.
January 21st, 2015 at 2:29 pm
Maturity issues for a 20 year old kid???
I’m much more mature than I was when I was 20. People DO grow up.
January 21st, 2015 at 2:31 pm
What risk?
I see no risk at all. I’m used to first round busts. I’m a Buc fan.
There’s no risk what- so -ever.
January 21st, 2015 at 2:32 pm
Robert 9 — you have a right to your opinons but by all accounts Winston is far from stupid as you say. supposedly he has a 3.6 plus grade point average and is a film / study junkie. that’s not stupid. we will just have to agree to disagree.
everyone is replaceable and lovie needs to win now and winston is his best chance is what i was getting at above.
January 21st, 2015 at 2:35 pm
Winston has much more positives when it comes to playing a QB then Mariota. Let’s time I checked he played QB not choir boy. On the field he’s unquestionably the best QB in the draft. Drafting him would be smart. Nothing wrong with drafting the best player you can find at QB when you need a QB and getting him some off the field help.
If some of you had your way we’d be the Tampa Bay Evangelicals. “We can’t win but at least we dont curse!”
January 21st, 2015 at 2:35 pm
Gator Hate out is force today – Losers.
January 21st, 2015 at 2:36 pm
Joe, if Winston was in Tampa and happened to be accused of sexual assault would you cover it or would you cover it up? Winston is a bad seed. #RedFlagsDontLie
January 21st, 2015 at 2:37 pm
i agree we should donate the money to charity
January 21st, 2015 at 2:39 pm
For all who have not sinned throw your stone. I would love your employer to judge you on your actions. Look im not for drafting jameis i love mariota think how good he is if his old ball coach would trade the whole farm just to get him. At the same time im not against winston because he is a kid. We have the vets in our locker room to straighten him up. Lovie smith is not jumbo fischer, he will hold this young man accountable.
January 21st, 2015 at 2:41 pm
“Barry Says:
January 21st, 2015 at 2:36 pm
#RedFlagsDontLie”
#WarrenSappNFLHallofFame
January 21st, 2015 at 2:42 pm
He is a kid who for all intensive purposes has never had an enjoyable childhood living in the hood. Got to college and experienced life in a way he never did before with different people,cultures and ethnicities. Some might have taken advantage of his youthful naivety and some abused it as well as himself with all the praise he was getting. GIVE HIM A BREAK he has no criminal record, probably never shot a bb gun before he got to college. probably never went to a party like some he went to college. He may never have dated or had intercourse with a white girl before.
People talk about him being growing up, well his version of being coddled is probably a lot different where he’s from than most neighborhoods.
January 21st, 2015 at 2:43 pm
a persons GPA has nothing to do with their common sense. thats what i mean when I say stupid.
January 21st, 2015 at 2:56 pm
Love and Warrick Dunn says:
‘Brett Favre
He had red flags before he was drafted.’
Favre wasn’t a 1st round pick, either. He wasn’t taken until the 2nd round because of all the INTs he threw in college (which didn’t change in the pros), not because of maturity issues. (He was taken AFTER Dan McGwire and Todd Marinovich!). He was outspoken, said things ATL HC Glanville didn’t appreciate, and was intercepted on 2 of the 4 passes he threw with ATL & wound up in GB. Yes he was a Super Bowl winning QB and HoFamer.
But, sending dong pics does not compare with allegations of rape, petty thievery, reckless behavior (air gun wars in the suburbs, shooting at squirrels on campus, etc., etc.). Winston has the opinion that the rules don’t apply to him, because he’s the star QB. That kind of attitude only gets worse once he’s getting millions of $.
Sure, Favre also had a Vicodin problem (a lot of NFL players have) but that didn’t crop up until later in his career. Favre was a pr*ck, and might have washed out if GM Ron Wolf hadn’t taken a chance on him, but most of Favre’s personal issues happened after he established himself as a Pro Bowl quality QB.
Try again?
January 21st, 2015 at 2:56 pm
And for everyone saying he’s a bad seed you are not just talking about him but about most black male growing up in ghettos and almost decent neighborhoods in America. We are not all bad seeds just sheltered from people with misconceptions taught and probably reinforced by some people when we get older. He was able to go to trent dilfers camp that’s not the norm for young black athletes. The good girls in high school probably didn’t date him because their parents(if the father was in their life) didn’t want the girls to get pregnant at an early age. And his parents didn’t want a baby in the house to derail his footbal future. This dude grew up around hustlers,drug dealers,pimps,gangsta’s,bullies,death,unsolved crimes and to still make it to college without all that getting to him. GOOD JOB BY THE PARENTS AND JAMEIS WINSTON!
And you people (you know who you are) can kick rocks!!!!!!
January 21st, 2015 at 2:59 pm
I’m sick of the “He’s only 20, give him a break” argument. How many successful QBs had his kinds of issues in college? Sure, social media these days doesn’t help, but top tier QBs are expected to show a level of maturity and common sense well beyond their age – it comes with the territory. It’s ridiculous that people think he will just magically grow up right when he comes to the NFL. The guy has been coddled his entire college career, he won’t know how to face real adversity.
January 21st, 2015 at 3:00 pm
some people believe you can know a person based on a media narrative, others think that the truth about a person is probably neither as bad or good as what is being written in the media. some people believe you are wired to be immature or mature by your 18th birthday, other people believe that people can, well….mature. my greatest apprehension is that we have to rely lovie smith to arrive at the right answer to those and the many other question about Jameis Winston.
January 21st, 2015 at 3:01 pm
Cover up and ignore rape and/or sexual assault all you want, it’s a horrific crime and shouldn’t be excused just because a man can run a pro style offense. Shame on you who excuse this type of crime against a young woman.
January 21st, 2015 at 3:03 pm
newbucsfan, isn’t JW’s dad a preacher? isn’t he from, like, rural alabama? i hadn’t heard this “he grew up among pimps and murderers” narrative before
January 21st, 2015 at 3:03 pm
Fing john Gruden eating lunch in front of me in Las Vegas holy nerdgasim
January 21st, 2015 at 3:04 pm
He deserves a second chance not a death sentence.
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LOL………….SECOND chance??? LMAO
January 21st, 2015 at 3:05 pm
Don’t Punch him SHARK!!!
January 21st, 2015 at 3:09 pm
Barry, why is it fair to conclude that JW is a rapist because the police refused to investigate the crime properly? there has been more than one case of a college athlete being falsely accused of sexual assault. thanks to TPD, we will never know as much as we could have, but in a vacuum i tend to stick to the fundamental principles of the american judicial system over the kangaroo court of public opinion
January 21st, 2015 at 3:13 pm
pick6 Says:
‘newbucsfan, isn’t JW’s dad a preacher? isn’t he from, like, rural alabama? i hadn’t heard this “he grew up among pimps and murderers” narrative before’
Dam right. All these people trying to bring race into it. Is Newbucsfan trying to say all black males are born to the ghetto, living the ‘thug life’ as teenagers? Plenty of black people are middle class, living in the suburbs or the country, more and more coming into upper class. Newbucsfan, you are the one who is trying to turn it into a race issue. Leave race out of it. No one should care what color Winston’s skin is. We are talking about his behavior and actions.
No one argues he is talented, and the most NFL ready QB in this draft, but QBs who show this kind of lack of maturity rarely make it in the NFL at QB.
January 21st, 2015 at 3:17 pm
Just as a footnote to previous comments, if the Bucs DO pick Winston, I hope mightily that he beats the odds and becomes a true franchise QB the Bucs have always needed. And, that he makes better off-field choices than he did in college.
January 21st, 2015 at 3:18 pm
And for everyone saying he’s a bad seed you are not just talking about him but about most black male growing up in ghettos and almost decent neighborhoods in America. We are not all bad seeds just sheltered from people with misconceptions taught and probably reinforced by some people when we get older. He was able to go to trent dilfers camp that’s not the norm for young black athletes. The good girls in high school probably didn’t date him because their parents(if the father was in their life) didn’t want the girls to get pregnant at an early age. And his parents didn’t want a baby in the house to derail his footbal future. This dude grew up around hustlers,drug dealers,pimps,gangsta’s,bullies,death,unsolved crimes and to still make it to college without all that getting to him. GOOD JOB BY THE PARENTS AND JAMEIS WINSTON!
And you people (you know who you are) can kick rocks!!!!!!
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thats some racist BS right there. yeah they told him to go throw that football all day, all night and make the NFL. c’mon man. thats the goal of most every young black male from the hood. sports. I respect that. As a white professional male who grew up in a trailer that does not excuse the fact that the boy has no f-ing common sense, respect, maturity. so, no, I don’t say good job parents. bad job. he was born with the gifts, yet grew up to be an idiot thanks to you.
January 21st, 2015 at 3:27 pm
JP4 Says:
January 21st, 2015 at 2:56 pm
” He wasn’t taken until the 2nd round because of all the INTs he threw in college”
Brett averaged 8.5 picks a year over 4 years at Southern Miss. Peyton averaged 8.25, Andrew Luck averaged 7.34.
“Sure, Favre also had a Vicodin problem (a lot of NFL players have) but that didn’t crop up until later in his career.”
He entered rehab in 1996. 4 years into his career in Green Bay. He played for 14 more season in the NFL. Hardly later in his career.
“might have washed out if GM Ron Wolf hadn’t taken a chance on him”
You’re speculating.
“Winston has the opinion that the rules don’t apply to him, because he’s the star QB”
Right, but, an obvious Hall of Fame QB can sexually harass an low level employee of a team because thinks the rules DO APPLY TO HIM??
Facts are facts. Your question was “Can you name even one QB who came into the NFL with serious maturity issues who has been successful”
I named one who had them, and arguably, never matured, who became one of the all time greats.
Try again?
January 21st, 2015 at 3:29 pm
JP4 Says:
January 21st, 2015 at 2:15 pm
pick6: None of those guys you mention played QB. For a QB, the demand in NFL prep time & work is way beyond what it is for DT, LB, S or WR. Winston will not have to work twice as hard as he did in college, he will have to put in 8 or 10 times the work and effort.
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What a silly statement.
In this very article it says “Jimbo Fisher told me Winston was the best quarterback he’d ever had, from a talent standpoint and as a worker.”
So work ethic is no concern whatsoever.
By rule – College athletes are only allowed to spend 20 hours per week on their sport. That time involves practice, film study, preparation etc. And they spend another 30-40 hours per week going to classes, studying, completing assignments – etc. Winston has excelled at both and obviously has a grasp of how to manage his time well enough to do so.
So by saying “he will have to put in 8-10 times the work and effort” – you are suggesting that he will need to spend 160-200 hours per week to become successful in the NFL? How many hours are there in a week? LOL
January 21st, 2015 at 3:35 pm
My earlier post from the “Chip Kelly’s Leftovers” thread says it all:
Pickgrin Says:
January 21st, 2015 at 2:18 pm
The ONLY move the Bucs should make (short of trading down for a literal King’s ransom) –
IS TO DRAFT JAMEIS WINSTON!!!! Draft Winston and don’t look back. Then draft at least 2 OLinemen in rounds 2>4.
THIS is what will bring the Buccaneers long term success.
Winston is the best QB to come out in the last 3 years – and it ain’t even close. Those who disagree with that statement did not watch many FSU games the last 2 years.
Mariota is also a very good College QB who is extremely athletic and capable of making big plays with his feet – but the risk that he will not be able to transition well to the NFL and or/get hurt a lot if he tries to run around too much is VERY real.
January 21st, 2015 at 3:38 pm
pickgrin, to add to what you are saying, as a 2 sport athlete he is actually less of a risk from the work ethic standpoint, since he is juggling the equivalent of a full time job with the time commitment to baseball and football, in addition to maintaining a 3.6 GPA and compiling a 27 game winning streak as a QB
January 21st, 2015 at 3:40 pm
In a few months it will all be over. Jameis will be a Buc and the haters can crawl back under the rocks in which they came from or root for whatever team drafts Mariota (preferably). Keep reading your ‘unbiased’ SEC Network/BSPN articles losers.
January 21st, 2015 at 3:40 pm
Looking back when I was 20, yep, I was probably an asswipe too. I grew up, but it took some hard lessons and a crashing back to earth to do so. My point is, we all go through it, some more than others; but can we afford to sit though it when said 20 year old is your franchise QB?
January 21st, 2015 at 3:58 pm
Love and Warrick Dunn Said:
“Facts are facts. Your question was “Can you name even one QB who came into the NFL with serious maturity issues who has been successful”
I believe the words “came into”, and “with” are very important to the question. If I missed your ‘facts’ to THAT question, then humor me and repost the part that addresses it. I’m recovering from influenza ‘A’ and I do not necessarily trust that my reading/comprehension skills are back to normal. Thanks
FWIW, just because no one has done it, does not mean it cannot be done. The odds might not be favorable, but it does not mean it is impossible.
January 21st, 2015 at 4:26 pm
@Hawk Says:
January 21st, 2015 at 3:58 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/18/glanvilles-eye-opening-explanation-of-trading-favre/
“I had to get him out of Atlanta. . . . I could not sober him up,” Glanville said”
Are you supposing that these issues came out of nowhere AFTER he was drafted? In one season he suddenly had off the field issues?
January 21st, 2015 at 4:28 pm
The Glazers, Lovie and Licht have far too much integrity and respect for this franchise to draft somebody like Winston and make him the face of their franchise. Winston is a total crapshoot who could possibly cause the Bucs much future embarrassment.
You don’t roll the dice, gamble or just take a shot with the #1 pick. You take the player that’s highest on your board and somebody that you feel is 100% your guy with no concerns, reservations or worries. And beleive me, that’s not Winston
January 21st, 2015 at 4:30 pm
i guess all preachers kids wear white dress shirts, black slacks and ride bicycles. Not in touch, i’m done those of you who get off on calling this young man a rapist or whatever do what you want. It makes no sense to argue with you about this sh!t. Enjoy the rest of your day and be blessed!
January 21st, 2015 at 4:39 pm
There is a huge difference between being immature and having character issues. There are lots of 40 and 50 year old men arrested every day.
January 21st, 2015 at 4:41 pm
Newbucsfan, where do you get all this bullsh*t from. I live in Hoover Alabama. Jameis Winston is not from the ghetto. He is from Hueytown Alabama. Neither his neighborhood or the street that he lives on count as “ghetto”. He grew up in a very nice working class neighborhood with both parents. His dad was a little league volunteer football coach. He was a 4.0 student in high school and qualified academically to attend FSU.
Now he is an immature little sh*t, but none of what you are saying is even close to true, and the part that pisses me off is you are righting this crap from a position of fact not your own opinion.
So you my friend, are a POPCORN FART!!!
January 21st, 2015 at 4:43 pm
Well if the Bucs could hire a medium and see the future then they would make the right choice. Bottom line the Bucs need a QB. So, who is the best QB this year. Arguably Winston is one of the greatest college QB’s ever (1 loss in his career). Mariota is a very good college QB. Point to Winston. Winston runs a pro-style offense, Mariota runs the spread. Point to Winston. Maturity? Point to Mariota. The NFL is not made up of saints (although there are some Saints). It would be silly to choose a QB other than Winston, even with the immaturity and potential character risks. Plus, Winston will make tickets more interesting to fans and the Glazers will like that a lot. The Glazers will enforce their will on this pick, as it is crucial to their $1 Billion franchise. They are businessmen and would not let an underling make a decision on their own with this much at stake. Do I want Winston? Eh, whatever happens will be fun to see play out and I hope the best for the Bucs regardless. It is just nice to have this kind of opportunity for the future, as painful as it was to get to this point. I guess I am hopeful that he does have some positive characteristics that are required for success, at least per his coach and I bet it won’t turn out to be as bad as we fear, but likely not as good as we could hope for either.
January 21st, 2015 at 5:07 pm
Mr. Patrick…please do come to JBF on draft day. I think your in for a big surprise.
January 21st, 2015 at 5:15 pm
“87ForJameisNoMariota Says:
January 21st, 2015 at 5:07 pm
Mr. Patrick…please do come to JBF on draft day. I think your in for a big surprise.”
No, no, no. I want them all here. I will have my bowl of popcorn, and will drink all of their tears.
January 21st, 2015 at 5:41 pm
Robert 9
Moral character? What does it say about your moral character when every single word you type about Winston is negative? You try to tear apart anything Winston related. Pessimist much? You dont know him. All you can do hypothesize and regurgitate all the negative things that other people have said. You dont know chit!!! And your constant whining isnt changing any minds. Your just diggin that hole deeper and deeper.
January 21st, 2015 at 6:29 pm
If investigation interviews come back good lets take him. I think he is to good to pass on him. Everybody thinks he has what it takes.
January 21st, 2015 at 7:19 pm
Talented kid has problems wish he didn’t have the problem with women saying no but he does everyone knows it and seems to be a pattern. Won’t be FSU problem anymore at least until they get rid of the suit and they earned that one for sure. BUCS make him the first pick he comes down with his accuser living in town unbelievable can’t make this stuff up. Guess that will be the BUCS problem, not sure if they will be as effective as controlling what gets out as FSU and the man are.
January 21st, 2015 at 8:39 pm
Thanks for the link. It really doesn’t tell us whether Favre CAME to the Falcons with issues or just developed them during his first year as a ‘Big Shot NFL QB’.
The odds are that he started his problems in college, but just like a lot of talk about current potential draft picks, it is just speculation.
January 21st, 2015 at 9:16 pm
Hey as long as “Famous” keeps his posse of videographers we can expect some good porn on TMZ and the internet.
Isn’t that just what the Bucs need? And it’s not like the internet has enough porn already.
January 21st, 2015 at 10:00 pm
Guy, when Lovie was in Chicago how many rookie QB’s did Lovie draft or play? He likes the veteren QB’s and has no trust or faith in young guys. Remember that when you are crying on draft day. Lovie is Lovie
January 21st, 2015 at 10:07 pm
nybucsfan424 Says:
January 21st, 2015 at 2:37 pm
i agree we should donate the money to charity
WE?
January 21st, 2015 at 10:15 pm
It appears to me that the vast majority of people that want the B
January 21st, 2015 at 10:18 pm
It appears to me that the vast majority of people that want the Bucs to draft Winston because he’s from FSU or because he’s Black. With the same record and stats I wonder how many of you would be still be banging his drum if he were a Gator or a Caucasion? Just Curious
January 21st, 2015 at 10:59 pm
This is Gator country. And the Bulls.
January 21st, 2015 at 11:13 pm
@Pick 6 I watched both 30 for 30 documentaries on the Hurricanes recently, and it reminded me of something many people are dismissing. i am watching clips of michael irvin, warren sapp, ed reed, john vilma, and a ton of others from college and they are complete idiots. entitled, arrogant, juvenile. complete idiots. alot of those idiots grew up and are on their way to the hall of fame if they’re not there already. the kids could play, and they wanted to win and dominate. when the NFL raised the bar, they raised their game. but watching their college selves, that maturity was hard to imagine.
Excellent point. It’s funny how all the self righteous people on here forget how immature they were at 19 and 20……and none of them lived under a microscope.
January 21st, 2015 at 11:14 pm
Mr Patrick and Robert 6 receive the award for most idiotic comments of the thread. Congrats on your baseless opinions and blinded biases/racism/vendetta/whatever personal agenda you have against Jameis.
PS – Barry you were a worthy nominee but not enough posts to win. But we will restart this competition tomorrow, so don’t fret. I have faith in you.
January 21st, 2015 at 11:26 pm
@ Matt
You may want to Google a phrase called “common sense
January 21st, 2015 at 11:52 pm
@mr Patrick
It’s so obvious how they feel about jameis. That’s why they always refer to him as “cocky”. History has showed that America hates a cocky black mae just saying. Confidence and being cocky are two different thing. Jameis is just confident in his ability
January 22nd, 2015 at 12:47 am
@ iamkingsu
I really don’t want Winston to be drafted here because I foresee him being a future problem and embarrassment for the Bucs. I don’t care if he’s black, white, green or purple or where he went to school. And I like for a QB to be confident and a little cocky, I just don’t want him to be a Turd
January 22nd, 2015 at 1:49 am
Again…I’ll repeat. Mr. Patrick is in for a big surprise on draft day.
January 28th, 2015 at 2:35 pm
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